#tmagp episode 9

[deaderthandoubledead]

SAM!!! SAM NO!!!! SAM DON'T GO INTO THE RUINS OF THE INSTITUTE!!!! SAM!!! DO YOU NOT REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO RED CANARY??!! SAM DO YOU NOT REMEMBER???!!

[macabresymphonies]

The homophobic vase, the homophobic dice, is this like The Sims 4 Homophobic Accessory Pack or something?

[scaryeyeguy]

Had to draw dice guy

[lispunk]

so I went back and listened to tmagp episode 9

AS WELL OF THOSE OF ANY COMPANIONS??? OKAY LENA MR BONZO SEEMED HAPPY TO BE ASSIGNED SOMEONE TO KILL WDYM

HOW MUCH DOES LENA KNOW?????

AND TRY TO KEEP CALM !!!! I'M SURE SHE'LL BE CALM DOES HE KNOW HOW TO READ THO???

[faultyvessel]

Oh Sofia you are the realest ever. I need this animated please

[wildgeese98]

Boy howdy do I hope they're not gonna do an Alice/Sam/Celia love triangle thing. I find love triangles supremely annoying in almost all cases. The only way I would accept it is if they had the balls to make them poly, but that seems unlikely to me.

[eyesmcgee]

Episode 9 ramblings and statement analysis :

I really loved the implications of “Chester” outputting this statement in relation to Jon’s journey through addiction and being an avatar. Outside of the statement being connected to the Magnus Institute and an definite wave in the face for Sam, it also serves as a really interesting character study to Jon specially with his relationship with Jonah Magnus.

Though the dice were clearly Web coded (addiction, lack of control, manipulation), I would argue that there is an aspect of the eye in the dice as well; the statement giver wanted to watch and see what transpired to those they offered the dice to. The discussions of agency here seemed especially important— did the dice make you use them, or was it all on my own? The statement giver wasn’t sure initially, but ultimately decided that the ownership of those decisions were their own (the driving force between Jon and his angst in season 4).

In terms of this statement and Jon and Jonah Magnus, what struck me is the similarities between this statement and the statement that “Augustus” output earlier in the season. In episode 9, the statement giver acknowledged the fact that they decided to pawn the bad luck rolls onto innocent bystanders, just as the statement giver given by Augustus had acknowledged (and even encouraged) that blood could be given from other people to the violin. If we are to assume that Augustus is Jonah Magnus, then I can’t help finding it interesting how many parallels the two statements have in common, yet it’s the intensity of the statements and the conflicted feelings that separate the two. One relished in their opportunity (given the violin), and the other felt both euphoric and tortured (given the dice). It’s as if we can see the effects of Jonah’s grooming of Jon from these two statements.

If there is any kind of conscious selection of these statements (and it seems like there is because of how timely this Magnus Institute statement is) I also wonder how conscious the selection of statements are in terms of how they connect to each user. Norris’s statements are grieving and lonely- which is thematically appropriate for Martin. Does Martin get a say in which statements he is drawn to? Is he choosing them himself, or are they just close enough to who he is thematically, that it happens automatically? It would make sense given that his introduction was of a grieving partner. I ask this because it would add another layer of pain with Jon outputting this specific statement as this statement giver does not seem all that guilty— is this a reflection of how Jon feels about how monstrous he had become?

Much of this analysis is built on the assumption that the voices are in fact Jon, Martin, and Augustus, but I cannot wait to look at each statement moving forward and looking at how each one might be a good reflection to see where each character fits and feels about the current circumstances that they are in.

[therealdistortion]

Sam STOP do NOT go to the Magnus Institute

Alice do NOT go with him

[protocol-conspiracy-board]

Episode 9 • Rolling With It

(zoom in for improved quality/readability)

a surprisingly tame episode after the absolute roller coaster that was episodes 7 and 8!

new additions to the board:

• Nigel Dickerson

• Luke (Alice's brother that i forgot to add earlier)

• Teddy (also forgot to add earlier lol)

• Alice's possible participation in The Magnus Institute's Gifted Program (thanks to @thousandpagesofmadness for pointing that out!)

not too much was added this time around, but i have a feeling next week's episode is gonna knock me on my ass.

have a great rest of your week!!

[teacupfullofstars]

Chester: *Reads a statement about being drawn to a cursed object that killed people.*

Sam: Hey Alice, do you want to go break into the cursed ruins I'm drawn to?

[furretforpresident]

[oldrockformations]

Today on tmagp! guy gets dumped by boyfriend, goes to play dnd, develops evil gambling addiction instead

thoughts about todays episode!!!!!!

I love Celia and Sam so much

The voice of Jonathan Sims talking about the magnus institute :(( I miss my archivist :(

This episode is definitely supporting the desire/obsession/addiction theory!! The references to having a history of gambling and the progression to being unable to stop rolling the dice by the end of the episode, even knowing the risks. I’m wondering if we will see this statement giver again as a fully realized avatar, or if they permanently died??

I knew Teddy would be back he’s so cool

Alice ily but you are starting to unnerve me

And Sam immediately wanting to go to the magnus institute after the statement about testing your luck! Buddy! This damn computer is trying desperately to warn you please listen! Do not die!

[because-fandoms-thats-why]

MANCHESTER?

(tmagp spoilers for ep 9 underneath the cut)

I cannot make my mind up if tmagp is an AU of tma or a continuation?? Specifically: did the Eyepocolypse happen or not?? Every time I'm convinced of one over the other they throw something at me that convinces me of the opposite

- At the beginning I thought AU (mainly because of the lack of the 14 fears in the way tma had)

- And then Celia. Who knows about the 14 fears, so I assumed it's a continuation

- And then the G's are alive and well. So AU?

- And then Chester's suspiciously pushing Sam to the institute so a continuation??

- And then the fuckin' Magnus Institute ruins are in MANCHESTER and not London?? So AU??

Honestly I was very wary of accepting this, but rn I'm thinking it's some kind of matrix deal which is why it feels like an AU sometimes even though it's a continuation?

[deaderthandoubledead]

STATEMENT!!! IT'S A FUCKING MAGNUS INSTITUTE STATEMENT!!!

[salute-the-magpie]

I'm worried about teddy after this episode. The combination of the statement talking about being killed if you try to give up the supernatural and Teddy being fired from his new job. I don't like the implications.

[faultyvessel]

BONZO MENTION?!?!