#tmagp 22 spoilers

[noecantsleep]

WE ARE SO BACK

[i-am-not-a-who-i-am-a-what]

had a sudden lightening bolt connection moment thinking about today's case while on the bus like, "oh of course augustus is narrating this one, jonah would know a lot about having a second trapped consciousness in his body, wouldn't he?"

[localsamalicer]

Sam: "You're manipulating me!"

Alice: "Yes, but it is because I need you here with me but I want to protect you."

Sam: "Ugh whatever you're just a jealous ex, I'm going to go talk to my beautiful current girlfriend who is definitely not manipulating me as well."

Sam: "Hello beautiful girlfriend who is definitely not also manipulating me!"

Celia: "Hello Sam, sorry about Alice. Would you like to hear more about the Magnus Institute?"

Sam: "Oh boy do I!"

[idkwhyyouaskingm3-blog]

I really hope the person Colins talking about in episode 1 is the same person Lenas talking about in the latest episode. I can wait to meet App guy. I wish Colin was there to watch them argue.

Tmagp 1

Tmagp 22

[lickmycoffeecup]

TMAGP 22 spoilers

Y’ALL

Absolutely avoid this, and the tags, ANYTHING, cause I think everyone is going to want to go in blind for this one.

Friendly reminder to tag your spoilers, keep spoilers out of post tags, and put spoilers under cuts!!!!!

I am LIVING for Lena putting Gwen in her place. Gwen isn’t interested in knowledge, or knowing what the hell is going on in the OIAR. She’s just gonna get herself or someone else killed thinking she has any kind of handle on the situation.

I wonder if this will bring her and Alice closer? Or if Gwen, still retaining her title, is going to try to strong arm the situation in her favor.

I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STATEMENT?

Who was talking?

Were they living in that man’s head?

“I” BUT ALSO “WE”? YET THEY’RE ALONE?

Did something come out of his head?????

What was making contact? WILL WE HEAR FROM IT AGAIN?

We stan Ursula, and her impressive ears.

I am LOVING the statements for TMAGP. They are wet, and visceral. Bloody, with a creeping sense of dread. They leave you with questions, but also wanting more.

WHO ARE YOU AUGUSTUS?

Sam had every right to get mad at Alice. I don’t know if she’s jealous. I think she just missed Sam.

But more importantly, GURL WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU MEAN BY “I thought we could—-,” THOUGHT WE COULD WHAT?????? EXCUSE ME? I wasn’t on board with Alice knowing more about everything, BUT I AM ABOUT TO CRACK THAT SKULL OPEN AND TELEGRAPH SOME SHIT. TELL US YOUR SECRETS.

DON’T MAKE ME GET THE TAPE RECORDER WITH TEETH!!!!!!

AND. CELIA.

HOW THE FUCK LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HOLDING ONTO THAT?

JUST WAITING.

TO JUMP SCARE US ALL?????

CELIA YOU HAD ME CLAWING AT MY DESK!!!!!!!!

I NEED IT TO BE NEXT TUESDAY ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I. AM. SCREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[captaincrazycreative]

The workplace DRAMA OH MY GOD

"Youre just trying to control me AGAIN" OH MY GOD

I didn't post about last week's ep and I think it's because there wasn't enough character drama for me

But my guys and their messy relationship are soooo back

"I just thought you'd be different. That you'd actually listen to me"

WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM??

I had assumed it had been an amicable split but they really had some deeper issues

ALSO THE LENA AND GWEN INTERACTION??

Okay I feel kinda bad for Gwen I'll admit it

Lena is being a total bitch

But also i don't know what Gwen is expecting on this point

I'm kinda curious how she's gonna go forward. Go rogue and chase down more monsters? Knowing Gwen probably.

What is she trying to prove? If Alice sticking around is suspicious then Gwen sticking around is ASTOUNDING.

[the-pest1lence]

As much as I want Jon and Martin to be okay in this universe, to be safe, to only have done a voice acting job for Chester and Norris… I also want them to get dragged into it.

Jon would obviously be curious. Even if they’re from the tma universe, he’d still want to know WHY Sam finds it necessary to find out more about to institute.

Martin would obviously be against this. He was always harder for the eye to control. But Jon would probably go behind his back and do some of his own research. I don’t think it’d be a full redo of season 2, but I do think if Martin didn’t sit down and have a long talk with Jon, he’d still do some checking up on Sam.

In short, I want them to be okay but I also want them to get torn to shreds all over again.

[theanxiousghostartist]

TMAGP 22 Spoilers (theories and reactions)

Pre Case (Lena & Gwen):

Gwen got away! Yippee!

It's really interesting that she called [Error] the "watching figure." Definitely solidifies the Eye energy (literally lol) coming for them.

Also, Lena calls both Ink5oul and [Error] "externals," I wonder if this is what avatars are being called in this universe. Perhaps because they don't know what they are?

I love Lena's reaction! Honestly, I'm wondering about how much dangerous work she was put through by the OIAR.

So Gwen's keeping the title but not the work? I wonder if Lena will slowly provide her information Elias-style and she how she reacts...

Also, a ministerial visit is coming up. I wonder if the people visiting are more involved with the Externals.

Gwen doesn't really argue with Lena about the job. I wonder if Lena is trying to scare her away from further investigating. For now, at least, it seems to have worked.

Mrs. Kelley??? Lena is/was married???

Case:

The case is a letter from Hans Berger to Dr. Richard Caton from December 1924, with Augustus narrating. Both Berger and Dr. Caton have conducted/are conducting experiments to study the brain, more specifically - they are taking data of brain signals. Herr Schmidt is the subject of Berger's experiments, which involves adding metal coils under the scalp and recording the signals with various devices. Berger would ask questions about the self, and when Schmidt would answer, Berger and his wife/assistant, Ursula, would record the results. After the initial results were in, Berger contacted Konstantin M. Bykov about his experiments with finding and separating the "self" (I got Stranger vibes from Bykov). After Schmidt's consent, Berger continued his experiments using silver wires now, which gave similar results to the first experiment. After a Buried/Eye type dream, about a deep, dark ocean full of dark secrets with unknowable radio signals overhead (perhaps the Web is involved too?), Berger made a new device with a telegraph to translate the signals, and experimented again of Schmidt. This time, there were rhythmic noises that got faster when asked questions about the self. Berger then put these questions into the telegraph while waiting for Ursula to finish recording the results, which led to quick signals from the telegraph, that translated to something that was alone asking for help to get out (presumably the wires). Schmidt suffered a seizure and died, with the wires forcing themselves out of his head.

This case gave off a lot of Eye and Buried vibes - Berger seeking knowledge buried in a person via burying wires into Schmidt's head (Schmidt was also "imprisoned" during this experiment as he was strapped to a chair with a variety of leather straps). The discovery of the Self also read very Stranger to me.

So Augustus has only been in 3 episodes so far:

• 4 - slaughter violin requires blood - prerequisite to Grifter's Bone ? (TMA)

• 18 - talking corpse (first case with tape recorder and compelling; confirms Alice's story)

• 22 - experiments, seperating self, something wants out

I have a theory about this:

So Augustus is the most rare computer entity, with many theories (including my own) saying that he is Jonah. I wonder if his cases that he is reading are a way of communication when he gains semi-sentience. First (ep 4), a sacrifice is required, perhaps a warning about what is to come with the Institute, or perhaps it is what it is required to free him. Next (ep 18), a confirmation of the supernatural forces at play and that something from TMA came over to the OIAR universe. Even the supposed dead can talk. Now (22), he wants out. He is buried in information and battling with the self. He wants out.

Post Case (Sam and Alice):

Sam found out about Alice tinkering with his computer and is angry about it. He is right in one regard - Alice does sound hypocritical by saying the Institute stuff is crazy but then goes on saying how the computer is setting him up. However, I am on Alice' side. Like she says- she's trying to protect Sam and stop him from going insane, like Colin appears to be (he probably knows a lot about what's going on, and thus is not actually insane, but just seems to be). Alice does have ulterior motivation, however - she wanted to get close to Sam again. Maybe romanticly, maybe platonically, but she wanted to get some kind of relationship with Sam, which is why she's being so protective of him.

Although from Sam's side, it seems that her protectiveness was overbearing when they were dating. Sam views what Alice sees as protective as controlling. This might be related to their pasts:

Sam - We know his parents were pretty controlling with his schooling (especially since he was "gifted") and his career (I believe it was said that his parents pushed him down the law path), so naturally, when he has freedom, he takes advantage of it. Therefore, when Alice's protective instincts kick in, she ends up coming off as overbearing and "invading on his privacy and freedom."

Alice - We know she grew up as an older sibling to Luke, which is probably where the protective instict comes from. She (judging from their established relationship) seems to have been very protective of him for a while now and may have acted like another parent for him when they were younger. She shows she cares by basically being an older sibling, more specifically, being extremely protective. At times, she thinks she knows what is right for someone else and will push them down the path she thinks is best for them. She's trying to help, this being done without any malice whatsoever, but she can get too overprotective.

While Sam values freedom and choices, Alice values protection and keeping her loved ones safe.

Post Case (Sam & Celia):

Sam says Alice "pushes his buttons," which makes sense, as they value different things. Sam calls Alice a jealous ex, which is interesting to me. Is this all he sees her as? Not a friend, but someone who is jealous of Sam and Celia? While Alice is jealous of Sam and Celia, that doesn't seem to be her motivation. However, I understand that Sam is angry (which he has every right to be), and he probably didn't mean this as harsh as he puts it. He clearly values Alice and their friendship. I hope the two can make up.

It's really interesting that Celia associated Sam's conflict with Alice as him continuing to investigate the Institute. Perhaps it's again the freedom vs. protection values? Or just her trying to slip it into their conversation?

I appreciate Celia asking Sam if he's sure about investigating the Institute and giving him time to think or back out.

"Jonathan Sims and Martin Blackwood."

THE BOYS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED!!! WE HAVE OFFICAL MENTIONS OF THE BOYS!!! BY NAME!!!! JON AND MARTIN!!!! LETSGOOOOO!!!

Right now, I'm thinking that Celia is slowly revealing information from her universe about the Institute to Sam (possibly after fact-checking it in the OIAR universe).

[theslaughtersfavlesbian]

Celia you did NOT just actually name drop jon and martin WHAT THE FUCK

[glitch-andromeda]

*on my knees with my hands clasped together* they're living happily in Scotland, they're living happily in Scotland, they're living happily in Scotland, they're living happily in Scotland, they're living happily in Scotland, they're living happily in Scotland, they're living happily in Scotland, they're living happily in Scotland, they're living happily- they're living out their cottage life 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[katischaos]

listening to tmagp 22 like: oo spooky brain thing.. don’t restrain someone who’s having a seizure come on…. sam and alice.. oop… WHAT WHAT WHAT CELIA WHAT HOLY SHIT WHAT WHAT DO YOU MEAN HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT PLEASE DO TELL

[tunababyyyy]

alice and celia are both so sus to me ESPECIALLY after this episode. like they both know way more than they're letting on but are leading sam in totally opposite directions and i'm so so curious to find out their motives. also what the fuck full name drop?? i guess we should have expected that in the "sentient telegram" episode but what the hell. wouldn't it be crazy if they had still living doppelgängers in this universe

[teepussilakana]

tmagp 22 spoilers below open at own risk i have done what i can

what the jack fuck shit was that i

like they mustve taken inspiration from some of the fuvked up experiments done on humans before but WHAT THE FUCK SOMEONES CONSCIOUSNESS WAS uploaded into a telegraph machine or got dr jekyll and mr hyded with silver

also i got sucker punched at the end what tje FUCK WAS THAT FOR AN ENDING

phew they sure know how to keep us hooked i need to lie down

[no-tengo-ojos]

Idk about you guys but this Jonathan Sims and Martin Blackwood might be important characters, anyone know anything about them?

[idkwhyyouaskingm3-blog]

Tmp22 spoilers:

Ok so this last case basically confirmed that it's possible to disconnect the 'self' from the rest of the brain. What if they can reconnect and use it like an AI in computers and that's why FR3-D1 is like that.

Especially if Jon and Martin are important names in Tmagps magnus institute as well. What if TMP Jon and Martin got put into FR3-D1 using a more advanced version of this cases tech?

I really do think FR3-D1 was institute tech that the OIAR started using when they raided the institute. Maybe it was used in the archives?

[lickmycoffeecup]

I can’t get over Celia saying it like SHE DIDN’T MEET THEM FACE TO FACE