#this vlive is from 2019 so it's not as old but's nearly there ...

[ambivartence]

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[thoughts-on-bangtan]

just some thoughts without pretending to be the truth. i have a feeling like inn 2017-18 there was some weird (but not bad) tension between vmin. like jm was getting to know himself and tae was.. observing? idk. the way they glared at e/o and touched was sometimes too intimate and jm went totally shy. but know smth kinda changed and i wonder what is it now? bois are getting older? and some moments in LGO tae doesn't look at jm i guess. like it's him shy now. AMA live is where he looks past him

Okay before I get into it I’d like to ask three questions, not necessarily directed at the person who sent in this ask but rather more into a general discussion round:

what is the sort of behavioral pattern that a ship needs to fulfill in order for people to think “oh, they might be into each other” and “oh, I think X ship is in love”, that sort of thing? Is it loud, almost over the top behavior taken straight out of the older generation Idol handbook? Is it constant physical contact, constant affection through double-meaning dialogues?

if vmin were to exhibit such behavior, show us lots and lots of affectionate interactions on camera in nearly every piece of content we have, tell each other every chance they get that they love each other when the cameras are rolling, would that make them seem more real, or would that cheapen the ship and only lead people to say “vmin is fan service and there’s no chance they are actually real”?

if we agree on the hypothesis that vmin might by now be in a relationship of a few years, and they are both 25 years old, so grown men at the height of their careers, do you really think they would feel the need to showcase their relationship and legitimate romantic feelings to each other in front of the camera? Would they really want to allow millions of people (some with good attitudes and respect, many though without respect and only hate on their tongues) into their relationship?

These are the sort of things I think about and I’m always curious to know what others think and how things would be like if vmin were to behave like certain others, if those who doubt them would stop, or only see it as more of a reason to doubt.

In any case, to a certain extent I agree with the person who sent in this question, that yes vmin’s on camera behavior has changed, that while in 2017/18 it was more Jimin who was shy, it’s now Tae who appears shy more often. But, I don’t see that as bad or negative or sign of things not going well. At all. Since last year I feel like Tae’s attitude toward being an idol and everything that entails has changed a bit, as did his mentality especially after he went through burn out and generally had a hard time in the first few months of 2020. But that I think had nothing to do with Jimin. I think their relationship, however you’d define it, was fine for most of it, and I think after so many years of knowing each other (it’ll be nine this year) and being close friends and perhaps more, they know each other, inside and out, and know how to act in certain situations and depending on how the other is feeling.

But while there have certainly been instances in 2020 where Tae appeared shy when interacting with Jimin, there have also been moments where he didn’t. Take for instance their interview where they spoke about all their albums. Once they got to Wings and BS&T, Tae spoke about how he remembers Jimin’s charisma and how tempting he came across in it. Or the interview filmed in that little corner at a diner or something where Jimin was supposed to say which moment in Dynamite is his favorite where Tae touched his shoulder and Jimin basically completely blanked for a moment before smiling, giggling, and saying that his favorite part was Tae’s. Or that one interview where they sat next to each other talking about Dynamite and then all of a sudden they were holding hands for almost the rest of the interview. Or Tae cupping Jimin’s hand during a photoshoot which we saw in the behind the scenes glimpses from when they were filming the Baskin’ Robbins ads.

More below the cut since this kind of turned out a little longer than anticipated, I hope you don’t mind, anon:

I think a big deciding factor in how vmin behave with each other and how they come across on camera is where they are, as well as most certainly how they are feeling on that day. Tae said himself that on days where he’s feeling good, going to work and doing what they do is fun and he has no problem with it, yet when he’s not feeling well, it’s hard and he has to push himself more to do things. Besides, there is definitely a distinction between how vmin behave when they know a camera is watching, and when there isn’t one. It even shows in something as silly as, remember MOTS ON:E day 2 at the end of Hobi’s performance of EGO when the members join him? Vmin are dancing with each other, standing facing each other with Jimin doing some kind of almost like “I’m performing magic on you” hand gesture toward Tae BUT the second he realizes the cameras are on him, Jimin straightens up and pretends like that didn’t just happen and no one saw anything. Or their side hug on day 1 and silly dance during day 2 during Dionysus, that, too, was something not visible on the main cam, just a side one which they knew would not be available during the replay, so less people would see it. Or even that famous moment of them holding hands on the airport on Tae’s birthday in 2019 on the way to NYC after going up the stairs. They thought no one could see, so they held hands like it’s the most natural and normal thing for them to do because that’s just how they are.

On the other hand, a performance where I agree with the anon that sent the question is that during BangBangCon in June when they performed Friends. Admin 2 already back then told me how you could see how both of them, but especially Tae, were shy during that performance. Jimin in his March vlive talking about Friends said that Friends is a meaningful song for him and that it will be an emotional moment in and of itself if they one day get to perform it together on stage, and you could truly see that. They both seemed somewhat nervous, shy, and a little unsure in some of their movements, but it also showed a glimpse at their dynamic, how it was Jimin who hugged Tae from the back, who opened his hand to lace their fingers together and hold it, almost like that dynamic of “I’m large but he’s in charge”, you know? Why is that? Because not only must it have been meaningful to them to perform together in such a way, but also Friends is a deeply personal song to them, probably more than any of us truly understand. (song analysis by Admin 1) But, at the same time, Tae has no issue with being brave online, as in to go on Wevserse and proclaim that 95z is love, or like today, go and post seven pictures out of which three were of Jimin (4 if you also take into account the one with the mirrors) or to make Jimin’s birthday the password while playing games with ARMY. Perhaps the difference is that on Weverse, Tae is in total control of the situation, it’s a place where no editor will cut the scene or edit it, but whatever he’ll say and post, that will be exactly how it is. Of course people can misconstrue his words, but that’s something no one has any control over ever, and thus not the point.

The way I see it, sometimes they allow themselves to be silly together, to show each other affection and do more cute things, like Tae going to Jimin’s room in ITS and rolling over him, giggling and just being silly and then sitting next to him and caressing Jimin’s back since he was sick. Or Jimin waking up and limping outside to see where Tae is and ask if he’s all right that morning. But in the grand scheme of things BTS have so little privacy, so few things that are truly just theirs and not something they share with us, so they guard the small things precious to them from prying eyes and treasure it. And that’s the case for their relationship, regardless of how you want to see it, as well. It’s theirs, not ours. We’re just privileged enough to catch glimpses of it sometimes.

Like remember on the day they had their interview at KBS in the summer due to their BBH100 #1 where the TV station even showed their arrival? Remember how Tae and Jimin first shared their hand sanitizer, since Jimin used too much of it, and later on when they walked next to each other, first they looked at each other, like a silent question passing between them of “are we doing this?” and concluded that yes. Which was followed by them holding hands and Jimin even raising their hands together toward the camera with an almost a little challenging looking in his eyes, like he wanted to show that they belong together in such a public manner. Tae looked a little shy in that moment as well, but he agreed to do it anyway, so his shyness doesn’t necessarily have to be connected to Jimin, per se, but more the situation they are in and who’s watching them.

Also, a final thing that always fascinates me is how, when other members don’t show their affection in every piece of content we get, no one questions their love for each other, no one questions if X is real even if those two don’t interact all too much for a while, people still think they’re close and whatnot, as example. And yet when vmin don’t interact in every interview and every other piece of content we get, immediately the questions begin if they are still close, if they are still together, if they’ve had a fight or if they broke up. And if they do show affection, it’s immediately equated to “it’s just bros being bros”.

Ask yourself: is an interview about their new song or album really the right place for “ship” moments? Is every performance the right place for it? And what if on that particular day one or the other or both simply weren’t feeling well? Or what if they simply hugged or whatnot before the performance and thus felt no need for a repeat on stage? They are professionals, they are musicians, and if we do get absolutely adorable moments like Tae taking a piece of confetti out of Jimin’s hair during their duet moment in LGO, that’s a precious gift, and not something we should demand/expect seeing every time. Would those moments still feel as special as they do now if we got the every time?

[schneegloeckchen]

Hello, there!🤗 Thank you for visiting this blog. This is my first time using tumblr, so I'm very new here and don't know what I'm doing. Also, I'm just using my phone. So please be gentle.😄

*Introductions*

My nickname is Dia (yes, that's an actual nickname of my name). I'm a female '95 liner and, as you could have guessed by the title of this blog, I'm from Germany, so english isn't my first language. (Sorry in advance, for any spelling mistakes.) I also have the tendency to ramble, so chances are, my posts are gonna be pretty long winded.😅 Please bear with me.

My hobbies include music, anime, gaming, reading (fanfiction since 2013) and botany (nearly finished with my biology major 😆🌻).

I started this blog mainly because of BTS. Since I don't have any other social media, keeping updated and interacting with other army has been a struggle (read non-existant). I don't know anyone personally, who even listens to kpop. It was pretty lonely just lurking around. So I finally caved and started this account.

*How I became ARMY*

I found BTS early 2019, because BPs Kill this Love was playing on the radio and they hyped up the MV. So I looked for it on yt and re-ignited my little flame for K-Pop. And as you would expect BTS was recommended again and again and again. Everywhere. So I eventually started to wonder what the hype was about and clicked on a video of them. You can imagine what happend next.

They were such hilarious, lovable crack heads and their relationships with each other seemed so genuin. So I wanted to learn more about them. It didn't help that I'm a sucker for shonen (esp. Sports), so their story really hit home. And that they were all around my age (RM is closest, so I really am smack in the middle). It was inspiring to see what they could accomplish in the same time I have been alive. And I was just blown away by their dancing! 🤩

I really love (to watch😅) dancing no matter what kind, but formation dances are my favorite. I love the synchronity and the images they create together, all warking together to create something more beautiful then any could do on their own. And the first time I watched their spring day dance practice, I was moved to tears.😢 I didn't know anything about the song, not the lyrics or its background, but at the end of the video I started crying because of the feelings they conveyd. Esp. Jimin. Every move of him screamed loss and sorrow, but was so beautiful and graceful.

I should have realized at the time that he was going to be my bias, if I had one, but I was in denial for nearly a year. Because I got the wrong impression of him after BST and a few introduction videos. I don't like the in-your-face overly sexual types and he came across as the "sexappeal" focused in the group. I guess that is still true, in a way. But after watching more of their content and getting to know more of his charakter and were he came from, I realized that he does this for army, not because he is narcistic. That he tries harder than anyone else to make us happy. And he has my utmost respect for that.

I also couldn't get used to his voice in the beginning.😖 His voice was the first I could recognize 10/10, but not in a positive way. That changed after I saw the #1 Muster performance of Just one day. I fell in love with his voice and am now so proud of his improvement in every new song they release. I was shook after Stay Gold and Your eyes tell were released this year (though Your eyes tell hit differently on so many levels...😭). And once you JimIN, well...

They all love army so much. Their love and humblness astonished me since I found out about their history. That they really credited their fandom for every accomplishment and always talked so sincierly and lovingly to army was amazing. For over a year I didn't dare call myself an army, because I was intimidated by this relationship. Like, how could I still be an army after all these years and all the hard times they went through with their army.

It didn't feel right to just insert myself into that bond without really knowing anything about them. So I got to know more about them by starting to watch their content from the very beginning and listening to all their music and eventually getting vlive. I still have a lot of catching up to do, but I feel secure and comfortable now calling myself an army.

Anyway this post is getting really long so I should propably wrap it up and continue at another time. And I didn't even get to the main part.😂 This is way more cartaric than I could have imagined.☺️ A bit like writing a diary entry.🤭

Tl.dr: I'm 25 years old, ARMY since April 2019, and Jimin biased. I love ot7 and absolutly adore their dancing and the genuiness of their interactions with army and each other. Please take good care of me.

Thank you for reading this far and listening to my story. Stay happy and stay safe.

Borahae!💜💜💜

Dia

[eunheefmd]

Hey guys, I’m definitely not a newbie here lol it’s Kim (Guanting’s mun) and this is a revamped version of my old muse, Eunhee. She’s had a lot of revamps and she’s had a lot of FC changes, but I think this version of herself is the best one yet. If you’re interested in any of her plots, you can find them HERE and if you see anything you like, you can click that heart bottom in the bottom righthand corner of this post and I’ll shoot you an IM! And before I forget, you can check out her profile HERE! And if d*scord is easier for you, add me! My ID is chungha's foot stool#9502 (yes I’m trash for Chungha, don’t look at me)

She was born in 1995 and was the only child for the first few years of her life

Then her brother came along

Her parents neglected her in favor of her brother, who did acting as a child (I’ll be sending in a wanted connection for her brother, so if you’re interested he’ll be a ‘97 liner or younger!) 

While they neglected her, she learned how to fend for herself and started developing talents of her own

She asked her music teacher to give her private singing lessons after school, and that went on for about four years

They weren’t aware that she could sing until she asked if she could audition for record labels

She was almost immediately offered a spot as a trainee at her first label, and her parents were shocked when she passed the audition, but signed the papers allowing her to become a trainee

She didn’t really speak to them during her time as a trainee, and only called her brother every once in a while when she knew her parents wouldn’t be around

Her trainee period was a very.. interesting time. This is where Eunhee developed the brunt of her cutthroat attitude. She was already a little hard hearted due to lack of attention and love from her parents, but seeing just how intense and difficult training could be only heightened that. If you were a trainee that she liked or didn’t pose a threat to her debut, you were okay in her book. The others? Not so much. She fought tooth and nail to get her spot in Wish, and a few other trainees grew to not like her. She would put on the best possible act for trainers and other BC employees, but not so much to her peers. Did she care? Not really. She was there to become an idol, not make friends.

She trained for nearly six years before she finally debuted as a member of Wish. As a whole, Eunhee enjoyed being an idol and loved performing. There was nothing better to her than receiving so much love and positive energy; not to mention, the attention she received. Being the leader and main vocalist of Wish came with a lot of perks and being apart of the biggest girl group in the country opened so many doors for her in more ways than she ever could have imagined. She got plenty of opportunities to get her name and face out there, to build up a brand of her own away from Wish. Almost subconsciously, she found herself going above and beyond to outshine her group members. She firmly believes that as the main vocalist, she’s the best singer in the group and, as she would put it, ‘the voice of Wish’.

The more successful Wish became, the hungrier for fame Eunhee became. She wanted more, and she never hesitated to ask BC for more. That was how she was introduced to what became her second love; acting. She wasn’t trained in acting, but with Wish’s popularity, she received love calls from different production companies. At first, Wish’s management team were hesitant to allow her to go for the role in the drama ‘Evergreen’. It wasn’t uncommon for most idols who tried to cross over into acting to be met with a lot of criticism and wariness. A lot of people assumed that idols only received acting roles because of their popularity, and that them being cast in dramas and films only led to real actors and actress being denied opportunities. 

In the beginning, all of those worries fell on deaf ears for Eunhee. She was determined to do it. Just like she did with her idol training, she put as much effort as she could into preparing for the role and her audition. Whenever she wasn’t busy with Wish, she was working with an acting coach. An acting coach that she hired with her own money, of course. Behind the backs of BC’s team, because she didn’t want them involved and she wasn’t sure if they would even allow her to seek someone out on her own accord. 

The acting sessions turned out to be helpful. She was by no means a magnificent actress, but she wasn’t terrible either. She was just good enough to land a supporting role in the drama. Of course once it was announced that she would be making her acting debut, she didn’t receive as much support as she would have thought. She assumed that she would at least have Wishing Wells as her support, but as it turned out, many of them were against her pursuing an acting career. They didn’t want her to focus on anything other than Wish, which was upsetting, to say the least. It did throw her off a little, seeing so many people against her solo endeavors. It didn’t help that she was met with quite a bit of covered hostility her first few days on the set. The other actors and crew people weren’t necessarily mean, but she could feel the distance and slight coldness between them, which took some time to blow over. 

By the end of filming for ‘Evergreen’, Eunhee discovered that she liked acting. Not just liked, but loved. Being able to step into the shoes of someone else, even if that person is fictional, appealed to her creativity. She could take a character and interpret it in her own way, which was a plus side to acting. Being an idol didn’t allow nearly as much free will. The reactions to her acting debut were rather lukewarm. Some people praised her for being better than they thought she would be, while most said that her talent fell far below the acting abilities of her cast members. 

Those were the comments that got to her the most. Eunhee liked to consider herself to be rather confident in her abilities and uncaring of the opinions of others, but she knew deep down that was not the case. She craved acceptance, approval and attention; three things that she never got from her mother and father. 

So she kept working on her acting. Trying to improve her skills more and more. When she received the opportunity to audition for another supporting role in another drama in 2019, she jumped at the chance. It was her time to prove herself as an actress. She didn’t want to be seen as one dimensional. She wanted people to see that with her second drama. Even though the second time around wasn’t much better than the first, she did receive a few more praises than the last time she tried acting, which she took as a good sign to keep pushing forward with that career path.

Unfortunately with her being so wrapped up in her schedules for Wish, she can rarely find the time to pursue other avenues. But will that stop her from pushing for her own solo work? Definitely not.

Despite her shortcomings, Eunhee is a VERY good friend. Loyal as all hell. And she loves her members to pieces, even though she tries to upstage them. 

Fun Facts!!

Hates the fact that Wish are attacked for lipsyncing when literally every other group in the industry has lipsynced at some point in time and will at some point in time in the future. Because of that, she’s very aggressive when it comes to Wish’s performances. She’ll make the members sing their songs while performing the choreography over and over again so they’ll learn how to pace their breath and build up stamina to sing live. Has definitely gotten into arguments with some Wish members because of this.

She loves to cook and bake!! Let her fatten your muses up

Out of the closet nerd. She loves anime and comics and all that good shit and she’s not afraid to admit it

A huuuuge supporter of the LGBTQA+ (as well as a member of it). Definitely the one who suggests LGBTQA+ literature and movies on vlive. 

Can be lowkey crude, although it’s not really like?? outwardly crude. The type to make dirty jokes that people don’t pick up on as being dirty until a few seconds after the fact.

She cried when she had to get her hair cut for her first drama role lol 

[hbh-entertainment]

HBH TRAINEES: A HISTORY

At HBH, trainees strive to be apart of their yearly predebut project groups. Around Summer time, a collection of trainees is announced in a non-solidified predebut line up. Usually, these lineups are divided by gender, but there have been some exceptions. If you make it into the line up of these groups, you have a very good chance of debuting.

The reason why HBH makes so many project groups is to test the overall compatibility of the groups as well test how well the trainees can handle a schedule similar to a debuted idol’s. It’s important to the company that the members get along, work together well, and have good chemistry. Even though this system is set up to sort out the line up prior to debut, it is notorious of HBH to add members to already debuted groups.

Here is a history on every predebut project group formed, just to keep you informed.

2011 - HBH TRAINEES

In 2011 when there were only a handful of trainees to choose from, the first predebut project was formed. Simply named ‘HBH Trainees’, they were made up of Hwang Minho, Lim Geonwu, Yoo Sungho, Choi Woodam, Shin Joongji, and Lee Kangdae, better known today as 6 out of the 7 Vice members. These boys mainly busked and performed at local high schools to gain fans and attention from the general public. They were not as publicized as future project groups, but they started the concept of testing out a line-up and then making adjustments to it before debut.

2014 - HBHNG/HBHNB/HBHNT

The most popularized and publicized group of trainees was the internet phenomenon HBHNT, short for HBH Next Thing. This group of trainees were 18 members strong and split up into two groups: HBH Next Girls and HBH Next Boys. They not only busked and held public events, but they had their own weekly web show that kept fans updated in their training. They were also the first group of trainees under HBH to have a showcase. Members were allowed to host vLives, communicate through fans directly through social media, and generally be very interactive with their audience.

Even though this era is often dubbed the ‘golden’ predebut era, this project group also had the most drama. Before the group was set to debut, many members dropped out rapidly for unknown reasons. As a result, the company was forced to work with a co-ed project group, which was later debuted under the name Triptych. (More about this era can be found here. A more well personal perspective of this era can be found here)

2015 - A-GIRLS

In 2015, HBH decided that they wanted to debut their first ever all-girl group. They collected their top female trainees and created the project group A-Girls. The members included Seo Youngae (Ex-Trainee), Kwon Jimin (Promise’s Lucy), Jung Nari (Promise’s Nana), Lee Bora (HBH Trainee), Shin Soyeon (Promise’s Soyeon), Kim Eunmi (Ex-Trainee), Son Hwayoung (Promise’s Hwayoung), and Park Haneul (Promise’s Rina).

A-Girls was nowhere near as popular as HBHNT, but they did have a large following due to popular members being apart of HBHNT previously. However, A-Girls was less interactive with fans. They only did a handful of busking events and would upload only one cover biweekly. They had about two episodes of their own web show before it was canceled due to members being removed and the fear of having scandals being leaked through the series. Member and leader Youngae dropped out of HBH all together because of a family death. She had a small legal dispute with the company in order to terminate her contract. Then ex-trainee Kim Eunmi was asked to leave the company due to bullying and harassment. Lee Bora was dropped from the line up due to underperformance. A-Girls continued as a 5 piece before Hwayoung dropped out months before debut for personal reasons. The remaining girls debuted as Promise, having Hwayoung reunite with them in 2019.

2016 - HBH: ECHO and ANSWER

Trying to recreate the sibling groups that were supposed to form from HBHNT, HBH announced the ECHO and ANSWER project. ECHO was the female counterpart and ANSWER was the male. ECHO was comprised of Min Soojin (Triptych’s Jin), Ji Haeyoon (Triptych’s Hyo), Love (Triptych’s Ame), Li Rushi (HBH Trainee), Park Haeun (HBH Trainee), Kang Sunhee (Triptych’s Sun), Hwang Chaewon (Triptych’s One), and Hashimoto Kotori (HBH Trainee).

ANSWER was comprised of Jung Jaehwa (HBH Trainee), Im Songgye (HBH Trainee), Itsuki Saito (HBH Trainee), Seo Soonyoung (Triptych’s Sol), Na Hyunki (Triptych’s Fin), Ahn Myungdae (Triptych’s Day), and Ryu Yeetai (HBH Trainee).

A lot of complicated things went down during this era, but it was the first time HBH tried to introduce elimination based off fan’s say. This plan backfired tremendously on HBH, as several members self-eliminated after finding out about the elimination process. A lawsuit was nearly involved between trainees and the company, but everything was settled internally before it could go public. After a long summer, the remaining trainees finally debuted as Triptych’s second generation. (More about this era can be found here)

HBHT17-19

HBH Trainees come back and announce old and new faces. Just like before, the trainees are given access to social media accounts and are allowed to post YouTube videos and vLives.

From the year 2017 onward, the company decides that taking a new approach to how they display their trainees will work out better than the previous summers. They also decided that they will give the trainees more free range when it comes to collaborating. The mission statement that HBH put out described that from 2017 and onward, HBH Trainees (or HBHT for short) will be generally focusing on debuting more members of Triptych, however, it’s a possibility that HBHT members could debut under a new project.

Due to Triptych’s main concept focusing around collaboration, subgroups under HBHT were encouraged by the company. For the first time, HBH Trainees are allowed to create their own subgroups and display them to the public.

In 2019, there still is HBH19G (HBH ‘19 Girls) and HBH19B (HBH ‘19 Boys), but there are also subgroups. (More information on HBHT19 subgroups can be found here.)

The only groups formed by HBH themselves are HBHT19, HBH19G, and HBH19B. Not every trainee is grouped by gender. To be apart of HBH19G/B, you need to be one of the top trainees. If the company doesn’t think you’re ready to be promoted in that way, you will be grouped under HBHT19, which is the general umbrella term for all HBH Trainees as of summer 2019.