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#nonbinary icon#this ones not that ooc the cutoff is just funny#more a perfectly cut clip than an ooc#madagascar#all hail king julien#ahkj#madagascar movie#penguins of madagascar#tpom#king julien#dreamworks#dreamworks animation#animation#animated movie#ooc madagascar
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#Ah i get this! forgive me for rambling in the tags but#this is somewhat possible? depending on the rivalmance options you pick#I’ve never liked doing the scene directly after Hadrianna with the rivalmance. feels a little flat.#The thing is with Fenris even friendly or funny options CAN give you rivalry. but it feels more like them just ribbing each other#to pull off a full rivalmance without being an asshole though takes a little finesse#specifically. it means ignoring Fenris when he says you need to go after Hadrianna immediately#don’t say anything. but go back to kirkwall.#go to lowtown at night. you’ll get jumped again. he’ll threaten to leave ans you’ll get rivalry#Hawke could have s million reasons for not going after her immediately. so this ones an easy way to add extra points without feeling like#too ooc for what one is going for#i also avoid the romance scene after hadrianna. and go for the one where you tell him to cool off and he comes back later to ask for sex.#feels a lot more rewarding and natrual using either path to me honestly#Fenris is a little finicky to get right with a rivalmance but point is it’s possible and it can be done well if you pick your paths#at least in my opinion. i’ve seen way too many people think it’s impossible to do a rivalmance AND have them be cordial#also note after a certain point ALL interactions net you rivalry or friendship. i want to say the cutoff is like 70 in either direction. (via @x-letsbreaksomerules-x)
no omg thank you for rambling in the tags! so, funny story, the first time i romanced fenris i did what you laid out kind of by accident? i was just going around playing my usual very pro-mage hawke, and i postponed going after hadriana because i was in the middle of another quest lol. but then from there i kept going on the rivalry path by doing mage stuff. it does take some careful planning with quests (like it does with the friendship path, too), but it's not too bad.
in truth, my issue is really that the rivalry path assumes a mostly if not completely adversarial relationship when, in the way i play it, that should only come out when magic is at issue (which, granted, is often lmao). but there's no reason for fenris and hawke to be harsh to each other during the gift cutscenes, for instance, but the writing doesnt always reflect that nuance. likewise, it feels truer to the characters when fenris is still angry and abrasive in the aftermath of alone instead of being so quick to calm down like he does in the friendmance.
wish there was a way to cobble together a friend-rivalmance for fenris because on the one hand the tone of some of the rivalry cutscenes fit with a mage!hawke better (during a bitter pill and alone particularly), but on the other hand the rivalry path bums me out A Lot
the relationship is contentious not just because of the conflicting ideology and trauma, but also because there's real honest tenderness and care there, which the rivalmance doesn't quite capture imo. yet the friendmance feels...idk...flat? dishonest to the characters?
i wonder if there's a mod that does this somehow (like some sort of cutscene picker or something idk is that even a thing)
#fenhawke#da2#someone stop me from having parallel playthroughs in the same file so i can get my romance hybrid#surely that would be Too Much
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A Will Solace Character Analysis: the Underappreciated Soft Side
I've noticed many fanfictions have Will Solace OOC. So I’ve been thinking about aspects of Will’s personality fans seem to either gloss over or exaggerate. Here, this post is me doing an in-depth analysis explaining Will Solace’s canon personality in the books, and how it can sometimes differ from fanfictions. Sprinkled in this analysis are tips to fanfiction writers on how they write Will as more in-character.
There is one major aspect of Will that people seem to ignore or underemphasize. Nico best explains it when describing Will in this quote
Jason was a fighter. You could tell from the intensity of his stare, his constant alertness, the coiled-up energy in his frame. Will Solace was more like a lanky cat stretched out in sunshine. His movements were relaxed and nonthreatening, his gaze soft and far away. In his faded SURF BARBADOS T-shirt, his cutoff shorts and flip-flops, he looked about as aggressive as a demigod could get, but Nico knew he was brave under fire. During the Battle of Manhattan, Nico had seen him in action - the camp's best combat medic, risking his life to save wounded campers.
To sum it up, Will Solace is a very chill and calm character. A lot of writers make Will more irrational, impulsive, overbearing, and emotional than he actually is. Will is not the type of character to create drama unless he's, as Nico puts it, "under fire." In other words, the intense side of his personality doesn't come out unless the situation is urgent or dire.
Fans remember during the Second Giant War how he gets angry and argues with Nico over Nico's health and shadow-traveling, so many assume Will is going to be this fiery over a lot of other things regarding their relationship. For example, fanfic writers may make Will controlling or overly sensitive with Nico. However, keep in mind, Will gets heated with Nico during the Second Giant War because Nico's shadow-traveling is killing him. This is how Will describes Nico's dire state.
"Coach Hedge told me all about your shadow-travel. You can’t try that again."
"I just did try it again, Solace. I’m fine."
"No, you’re not. I’m a healer. I could feel the darkness in your hand as soon as I touched it. Even if you made it to that tent, you’d be in no shape to fight. But you wouldn’t make it. One more slip, and you won’t come back. You are not shadow-travelling. Doctor’s orders."
Will is a healer. When he touches Nico's hand, he can sense how little sleep and food Nico has been getting and how Nico's being taken over by darkness. Nico is on the verge of death and hasn't cared about his health for a long time. Nico is also stubborn about it, so Will has to be aggressive in order to save Nico's life. This aggressive behavior is not the norm for Will, but it can sometimes come out when he has to assert control in a life-or-death situation.
Will is a calming prescence. He's a diplomat. He stops violence on multiple occassions.
He's one of the few people who's able to calm Clarisse's violent rage, and he does so in a gentle manner.
Clarisse pointed her dagger at Rachel. "What about their allies, huh? Did you see that tribe of two-headed men that arrived yesterday? Or the glowing red dog-headed guys with the big poleaxes? They look pretty barbaric to me. It would’ve been nice if you’d foreseen any of that, if your Oracle power didn’t break down when we needed it most!"
Rachel’s face turned as red as her hair. "That’s hardly my fault. Something is wrong with Apollo’s gifts of prophecy. If I knew how to fix it –"
"She’s right." Will Solace, head counsellor for the Apollo cabin, put his hand gently on Clarisse’s wrist. Not many campers could’ve done that without getting stabbed, but Will had a way of defusing people’s anger. He got her to lower her dagger. "Everyone in our cabin has been affected. It’s not just Rachel."
One of the most underrated Will Solace moments is when he stops a bloody battle from happening between Camp Half-Blood and Camp Jupiter.
But he knew it wouldn’t do any good. After weeks of waiting, agonizing and steaming, the Greeks and Romans wanted blood. Trying to stop the battle now would be like trying to push back a flood after the dam broke.
Will Solace saved the day.
He put his fingers in his mouth and did a taxicab whistle even more horrible than the last. Several Greeks dropped their swords. A ripple went through the Roman line like the entire First Cohort was shuddering.
"DON’T BE STUPID!" Will yelled. "LOOK!"
People are so used to seeing demigods, especially male demigods, being aggressive fighters that they can't wrap their heads around a brave and strong demigod who actively tries to avoid unnecessary conflict and destruction as much as he can.
And that's Will Solace's strength: he has the ability to prevent as much harm as possible.
Will is a difficult character to write. There's a lot of dueling factors with his personality. He's calm and pacifying while also being brave and assertive. He's fun and lighthearted while also being intelligent, logical, and grounded. He's laidback while also being responsible and hardworking. He's insecure but not melodramatic. He's very caring and protective but not pushy.
Will's personality confuses Nico sometimes too.
He’d always thought of Will as easygoing and laid back. Apparently he could also be stubborn and aggravating.
The trick to writing Will is to keep in mind his default personality is a soft and lighthearted character. Writers tend to overemphasize the hard side of his personality when his default personality is actually the soft side.
Think of the relaxing, lanky cat metaphor Nico uses for him. He and Nico bicker often, and it works for Will because he rolls with everything and doesn't take things too seriously. He's able to alleviate Nico's moodiness with humor, wittiness, groundedness, and patience. Nico affectionately calls Will a "dork" because Will usually keeps things light. Interestingly enough, he's able to be lighthearted without coming across as insensitive or an airheaded goofball, the latter of which is something Nico dislikes about Percy's personality. On a related sidenote, another way writers make Will OOC is they make him too dumb or too immature. I know I mentioned to focus on Will's soft side, but be careful to avoid that too. He's a SENSIBLE, lanky cat.
The way Will keeps his composure during a stressful situation by using laughter while still being mature is expressed well in this exchange with Apollo. (Yes, Will has a lot to manage.)
It was difficult to think of this young man as my son. He was so poised, so unassuming, so free of acne. He also didn’t appear to be awestruck in my presence. In fact, the corner of his mouth had started twitching.
“Are—are you amused?” I demanded.
Will shrugged. “Well, it’s either find this funny or freak out. My dad, the god Apollo, is a fifteen-year-old—”
“Sixteen,” I corrected. “Let’s go with sixteen.”
“A sixteen-year-old mortal, lying in a cot in my cabin, and with all my healing arts—which I got from you—I still can’t figure out how to fix you.”
“There is no fixing this,” I said miserably. “I am cast out of Olympus. My fate is tied to a girl named Meg. It could not be worse!”
Will laughed, which I thought took a great deal of gall. “Meg seems cool. She’s already poked Connor Stoll in the eyes and kicked Sherman Yang in the crotch.”
The fiercer side of Will's personality comes out only when the situation calls for it; this happens sometimes when he has to be a caring family member, a responsible healer, or a warrior in a dire situation. Even when he gets more forceful, he doesn't get more forceful than he has to.
Since Will has such a balanced and lighthearted personality, what are his flaws? What are the dark sides of his personality? There are four main things that stick out.
1. He's insecure about his self-perceived lack of abilities.
"I agree," Will said. "I wish I was a better archer … I wouldn’t mind shooting my Roman relative off his high horse. Actually, I wish I could use any of my father’s gifts to stop this war." He looked down at his own hands with distaste. "Unfortunately, I’m just a healer."
2. He sometimes struggles to endure the heavy responsibilities he has as a healer and as a protector to his family.
“I got it reattached,” Will told me, his voice shaky with exhaustion. His scrubs were speckled with blood. “I need somebody to keep him stable.”
I pointed to the woods. “But—”
“I know!” Will snapped. “Don’t you think I want to be out there searching too? We’re shorthanded for healers. There’s some salve and nectar in that pack. Go!”
I was stunned by his tone. I realized he was just as concerned about Kayla and Austin as I was. The only difference: Will knew his duty. He had to heal the injured first. And he needed my help.
3. He forces himself to bottle his emotions to keep his composure.
Will laughed under his breath. “I’m terrified. But one thing you learn as head counselor: you have to keep it together for everyone else. Let’s get you on your feet."
Here's a second example.
I rested my hand on Will’s shoulder. “Don’t worry. We’ll be back by dawn.”
His mouth trembled ever so slightly. “How can you be sure?”
4. He constantly worries about his loved ones.
Nico rested his hand on Will’s shoulder. “Apollo, we were worried. Will was especially.”
In conclusion, Will Solace's personality is difficult to get correct. But don't worry, if you write Will as a laidback, witty cat in your fanfics, I guarantee he'll be more in-character than many other fanfics with Will Solace.
(Note: I am only human. If you believe I'm misinterpreting some aspects of Will's personality, feel free to express it. What I say isn't 100 percent the right interpretation.)
#pjo#percy jackson and the olympians#will solace#nico di angelo#solangelo#percy jackson#heroes of olympus#trials of apollo#spoilers#meta#character analysis#fanfic#fanfiction#blood of olympus#hidden oracle#long post#toa#hoo#apollo
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Ch 6:
Its 3PM already… if I really hurry I can make it thru the end before 5PM, which is my cutoff time. What a way to spend the majority of my day.
Skimmed thru the intro scene bc I can’t read too many of these dream sequences, I just can’t rn. It’s fine. I know the jist.
WHY did I make Emil a TikTok kid and why do I think even just mentioning TikTok is funny… I don’t rly know anything about TikTok. Its just the annoying highschooler app to me. its so great
SIG/EM NROICE INTERACTIONS YESSSS HFF HFF PLES PLEASEEEE IM SOOO @___@ <- me when im normal
“Hey, no problem,” said Sig. “They’re your family too.” / HEH. HEHEH. HEHEHEHHE <- beavisbutthead laugh
h. Hey. What happened to my line break. Where did it go. Thats not cool, man. You can’t fuck w my formatting, dude.
Oh my god I actually genuinely did not remember how this scene (/THE/ SCENE!!! I LOVE THIS SCENE SOOO MUCHHH) started. This is really sweet. Maybe OOC but I think the weird little crush justifies Sig being a doting big brother for once in this au…
Hahaha.. im channelling better writers in Siggi’s dialect, whoopsies… its a lil messy.
Yeh this scene is really indulgent………………. Maybe way too much to be believable but its so cute and I love them and I want them to have thisss….. wahhh…. Siggggg give him a big ol hug you horny mentally deficient freakkkkk… also he would not talk like this, this chapter had a messy behind the scenes process that made everything get inconsistent.. but its literally fine.
This was the long scene that I sat on for like everrrr and I love it so much . Sigsie and Emmie talking and being weirdly flirty at the same time. Its everything to me. I tried really hard to make the flow believable and im being very critical reading it again now. And ughhh. I found one bit I don’t like and I want to go in and mess with it some more. But at the same time. No I don’t. I spent too much time on this chap already. Moving on !!!!
I can’t rly move on, I love these two so much.
HOLY SHIT I CALLED HIM DEN AHAHAHHAHAH FUCK MY LIFEEEEE DUDE. I called Mads DEN!!!!!Human AU suck my dong you all know who he is
GIGGLING KICKING MY FEEETTTTTTTTTT<33333333333 OF COURSE YOUR MIND WENT STRAIGHT TO SEX SIGURD !!!!!! WHAT IF EMIL WANTED A FIRST DATE AND AWKWARD AFFECTION AND A ROMANTIC FIRST KISS HUH?!?! SAD!!!
STOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPP AUUGUHHHH EHEHEHEHEHHEHE AHHHH STOPP EHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHE AAAHHHHHHH <333 3 3 3 3. 3 3 3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t call him baby brother thats weird sig… He’s literally only calling him that bc of the fetish btw. He’s still rotting his brain out with brother on brother porn
Another typo. can someone take me out back and shoot me already.
Ahuguughhhhh im obsessed with them. We’re finally getting into 5some territory im so happyyyyyyyyyyyyyy eeeeee
INCEST MINDBEAM ATTACK GO
im attempting my fic reread today. im announcing this bc i will be liveblogging to keep my morale up, NOT THAT anyone cares but i personally need this, like ill only commit to do the thing if theres an imaginary audience holding me accountable. & i like to have fun :3
anyway. captains log, its a beautiful sunny july weekend. i just finished my morning coffee, and, i am dreading this so much. i dont like rereading my own writing but i shall get over it. ok here we go.
Þetta Reddast vagueblogged directors commentary edition
Ch 1:
*opens fic and starts convulsing immediately* god i wish i smoked weed rn. i cannot chill out ever for the life of me
My Mission For Today Is: to remember what plot threads I’ve left hanging so I can resolve this story properly. And also try n remember where the flow is going. I have the end plotted out, I just am a little lost … it’s been a while :-(
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Abrupt beginning!!!! I’m not mad because I have . I HAD. Almost no writing experience when I started this. it isn’t ideal but I refuse to be one of those fanfic writers that starts rewriting early chapters without finishing the last ones. Ive never seen one of those types actually finish a longfic. …I’d already rather yap than actually read LMAO AHH
Oh this is worse than I remember. thats cool that s great ok alright *coughs up blood*
"20 somethings" WOW I really did not know where I was going with this when I started huh
LKJSDLKSJDLGKGDJSLDGJK ??? Who authorized this. Who let me cook. What the hell
I could write this better now. I could edit this into something beautiful. <- devil on my shoulder
FORGOT I WAS MAKING RICE BRB
"generously offered nothing to the exchange." wait STOPPPP. I’m so funny
GRAMMAR ERROR DETECTED why is there two periods. I’ll be coming back to fix that …………………. :-(((
Fuck. This is a lot. Marge Simpson Hiding Her Face dot Png
Oh this is stupid this is gayyy this is fukcinnn . Who fucking did t his. What was wrong with me,. This is so good actually. what was i ONNNN.
Im gonna throw up and I don’t know if thats like/. A complimentary thing or if im just cringing that hard . Im feeling emotions. I love my OTPs..OT3~5? I love them so so much
Ok as much as im like “eww bad writing” this is .. dare I say, rly good in places. Not to suck my own dick but maybe all hope isnt lost and imposter syndrome is an illusion
Grammar mistake #2. Goddddddd. they should ban me from the archive for this
EMILLLLL EMIL EMIL EMIL HIIIIII BABYYYY EMILLL I LOVE UUUU AWWHUUGHH everyone clap for my bewoved baby bruvver right FUCKING now
Urghhh gritting my teeth… Im fully expecting the flow of events to start not making any gd sense. There’s no way this came together the way I hoped in my head and .... For real I was never able to read this all the way thru. this is my first time, lol. and it was all disjointed on the authorial end to say the least. Im scared T-T
Jlxjvklsdkjfsjlkdkjlsjklkljzsdkjlgaskljdgjklasljkgdljkasljkdgjklasjlkdgljkaskljdgjakl??????????
Im not liking the ratio of dialogue to whatever the other stuff is. scene-setting I guess. prose maybe. i could have dragged this out way longer... By which I mean made it a more satisfying read. But WHATEVER !!!!
TIMO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TIMOOOOOOOOOO NUMERO UNOOOO DO MUNDOOOOOO I really need to utilize him more. As soon as I finish this fic I need to write a Timo POV spinoff where he gets cancelled on furry twitter for proshipping in real life
Hmmmm chapter ending didn’t hit as hard in practice as it did in drafts. Oh well. God damn that was a lot to happen in one chapter LMAOO???
OH SHIT MY RICE IS STILL COOKING ——
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