#this might be a bunch of rambling
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miaoqing · 11 months ago
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Okay, I've been thinking a lot about that whole thing with using the term "unreliable narrator" for Shen Yuan, and I want to throw in my two cents.
(looong explanation under the cut)
There are two layers to storytelling - narration and focalisation.
A narrator is the voice telling the story; it will usually be either a character inside the story (intradiegetic narrator) or a being outside of the story (extradiegetic narrator) who usually knows at least some of the things that the character/s are thinking or feeling.
Focalisation is about the being whose thoughts the narrator is conveying. A story written in the 1st person pov where a character is narrating their own life would have homodiegetic focalization. A 3rd person pov where the narrator is someone outside of the story would have heterodiegetic focalization. A story where the narrator's knowledge is unlimited has zero focalization.
What we have in SVSSS is a story narrated by a (seemingly) omniscient being, so an extradiegetic and heterodiegetic narrator. Thus, the narrator is someone outside the story, not SY, and calling him an unreliable narrator is wrong. Right?
No! SVSSS has internal focalization, meaning that the narration is focused on the thoughts and feelings of a character, in this case Shen Yuan. (As opposed to external focalization where the narration is limited to just the setting, what characters are doing, etc without delving into their thoughts).
What we read in the story are Shen Yuan's thoughts and feelings in the 3rd person. So far so good - nothing weird there. The trouble comes in the form of the fact that obviously, somewhere along the way, SY's actual thoughts/feelings get filtered/censored, so to speak, and we read a stripped down/edited version of them. This means that somewhere along the line, someone is unreliable. But we don't know who - maybe we are reading a straight up transcription of SY's thoughts and he is just that much more delusional than we thought. Maybe the narrator is leaving some things out, or isn't granted access to his "true" thoughts. It's impossible to tell.
The only thing we know for sure is that we are reading what we are meant to believe to be what SY sees happening/thinks about/feels. What we do not know is whether or not that is the objective truth.
So - even though Shen Yuan isn't the "narrator" by definition, it is still through his eyes that we see the events of SVSSS happening. There are no truly objective statements in SVSSS - it's all composed of Shen Yuan's thoughts, and who knows how much of the truth is lost to his mental gymnastics. As I said before, we don't know where exactly the unreliabilty comes from, but unless you want to have to write out this entire explanation every time and still not even have a definitive answer, let's just say that Shen Yuan is the unreliable one for simplicity's sake.
TL;DR it's fine to call Shen Yuan an "unreliable narrator" and to pull the "oh but he isn't narrating the story" is to pointlessly argue semantics. We all know what we mean by "unreliable narrator". it's not that deep. just laugh at the joke and move on. thanks for coming to my tedtalk
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journey-to-the-attic · 2 years ago
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one thing about ik is that she will always reach out
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internetskiff · 7 months ago
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this is basically how the James Cobb ARG went, right?
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thatrandombystander · 8 months ago
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"Chaos' Hades 2 design is better because it's hot and having the genderqueer character be less eldritch is better representation"
Well maybe some of us genderqueers like interesting and thematic designs and identify more with eldritch monstrosities over conventional attractiveness? What about the unsettling weirdo representation for freaks like me 😔
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Although holding the detached head and spine of your previous form does absolutely slap
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sboochi · 3 months ago
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Now make them smooch 🔫
(Yes I mean hiijack)
(please)
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Thank you for giving me an excuse I was missing them 🥺
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meamiki · 11 months ago
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a star being appeared in your apartment, wdyd?
(aka loop getting reverse isekaied into the modern office au)
also there are some scattered mumblings on loop in this AU under the cut actually in an rb now link right here if anyone's interested (spoilers for all of ISAT, including 2hats!)
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juustozzi · 5 months ago
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you might've seen this in an ask already, but decided to post here too; a collection of Tenmas from Yara's fics, since I love the differences that thrown into different timelines and happenings give him!
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thatoneastralghost · 29 days ago
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Okay, so the other day I made this post about an ISAT au I made/am working on, and I honestly wanted to ramble about it a little (lot) more.
So, in the previous post, I mentioned that I would get into the whole WHY Siffrin would be able to remember, (cause to me there does need to be an actual reason) and my current base idea is pretty much a wish gone gone very wrong, but also right?
Basically, I imagine that maybe Siffrin always had a bit of a bad memory, or maybe they were just anxious and didn't want to forget something important, so they made a wish along the lines of “I wish to never forget anything again.” or something like that, and the Universe, being the Universe taking the path of least resistance, just makes it so Siffrin physically cannot forget any information they are given again.
Obviously they can push information to the back of their mind, ignore it, differentiate between true and false information, and things like that. But they are physically unable to forget information.
Doesn't matter if they get a concussion, they're black out drunk, brain damage, sleep deprivation, ect. They WILL remember, and I honestly think that's a little more horrifying when you think about it.
Especially cause like, yeah they won't forget good things, their home, and things like that, but they also won't forget any horrifying or traumatic things that happen to them. No matter how much time passes, those memories will always be there, fresh in their mind. And that, at least to me, is not something I would be happy with.
Now, how this left Siffrin unaffected by whatever caused everyone to forget about the Forgotten Island existing, is kinda simple. As I said before, Wishcraft, and the Universe as a whole seem to take the path of least resistance, so when someone (or many, many someones) made the wish to make the forgotten island disappear (this just my guess and head cannon btw, I don't think it's confirmed what happened to the forgotten island), rather than negating Siffrin's wish that had been made earlier, or negating the wish to make the forgotten island disappear, it simply just went around Siffrin cause they are one person out of likely millions, if not billions of people.
But yeah, that's my basic idea for how the heckity heck Siffrin remembers their island.
Hope y'all have a wonderful day or night, and stay safe!
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azaracyy · 11 months ago
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a lesson on good karma digimon survive week 2024 day 4: supporting characters
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applestruda · 1 year ago
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i like vaguely wanna do that little art request thing where you say a random number from 1 to 100 and a hermit/lifer and i try to match it to one of the top 100 songs thing
but im like still very much in the middle of finals crunch-time, so it might be a bit before i decide if i wanna do it or not
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gingermintpepper · 3 months ago
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There is a distressing amount of Achilles content on my dashboard this morning. Universe, tumblr gods, friends of the state and those abandoned by it, please explain this to me.
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stanleyvampire14 · 3 months ago
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First LOTF anniversary thingy (idk what to call it)
Wooo lets go mini essay time—
Ok so! First thing! I did NOT want to read this book because I HATE forced reading in English class! However! We had an audiobook and it was cool so I said “Hey, maybe there’s other people that like this the way I do.” And Tumblr is, just that!
Also I joined in the dead middle of LOTFtober so uh there’s that. I was like “Wait there’s people DRAWING shit from this book? THEY’RE SO GOOD????”
Uhhh shoutout to Simorys and those people that made LOTF animatics on YouTube, gotta be my favorite way of getting into a fandom (I remember watching Simorys tiktoks like “hehe funny kids- oh shit Simon :(“)
GIGANTIC SHOUTOUT TO SNOW (@lord-of-the-bundle-of-sticks) MY ART FRIEND AND FELLOW LOTF ENJOYER EVEN THOUGH NEITHER OF US HAS REALLY INTERACTED WITH THE BOOK TO MY KNOWLEDGE FOR A WHILE. GREAT FRIEND. WOULD 100% THROW HIM INTO THE SUN. /pos also technically a reference to like our first interaction (RIP Simon and his broken limbs)
Would say a bunch of LOTF artists names on here but there’s too many- However! Yall are cool! I like the different ways you draw the characters and like the little headcanons yall bring to the table. Such silly guys.
Vic.
Shoutout to Teddy and Ana for carrying the LOTF fandom your backs must be hurting 🫡 you guys are awesome!
Let us not forget this goober @the-heart-anon1, please for the love of everything do NOT leave we need you in this fandom it’s a mess 😭 We love heart anon 🔥🔥🔥🔥
All in all, despite the occasional fights and ship wars (which is…What a fandom does), we all get along somehow for the most part and I enjoy that quite a lot. Go lotfers!
I’m NEVER saying that again.
Oh yeah I forgot about my silly ocs- Thank you guys for indulging in Ryder, Mary, John, etc’s stories, it’s really nice to see people like them????? Will return to that one day, I miss Altair Sterling :( Post Ryder Altair my beloved <3
Alrighty, I think that’s all, thanks for reading this very jumbled mess of a post! ^_^
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First Ryder drawing just because I wanted to put a picture—
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skyward-floored · 6 months ago
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So I’m going to try my darndest to finish an actual movie scene for the Incredibles au next month for its birthday (ough). But there’s so many scenes I’m excited for that I am... having trouble deciding which one to do.
So! What are y’all’s favorite scenes from the Incredibles? Or which ones are you looking forward to seeing in this au the most?
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yalibat · 1 year ago
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i hate him
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sketchy-tour · 1 year ago
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Oh the most random thought. I know Wally is "the guy" of the fandom. Like there's no denying. And I am also a victim of Wally's "the guy" syndrome.
But because of that, there's Wally x Y/N content. But where's the Julie x Y/N? Barnaby??? Sally? Poppy???? *proceeds to list the whole cast at that point*
Howdy has his fans, I've seen them they're so very real but he also deserves more Y/N content.
Idk idk. Random stupid thoughts. From someone who's literally also a stupid little Wally enjoyer. Fjdjjfjdjfjs
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artekai · 1 year ago
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Wait. I have a top tier take
Rebecca x Valencia
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