#this isn't to say there shouldn't be any conflict between them btw
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kaijudyke · 2 years ago
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truly i think what we need and DESERVE is a modern venom comic that matches the energy of the hunger in terms of going all in on both romance and horror. there's no need for there to be a conflict between "venom is a love story" and "venom is dark and fucked up and scary" when at its best venom is both at the same time. and furthermore venom isn't scary because of some boring "agh evil alien in my brain" bullshit possession conflict, venom is scariest when there ISN'T any conflict. venom is scary BECAUSE eddie and the symbiote love each other and encourage each other's worst impulses. the romance and the horror come from the same place. if you don't understand this you will not write good venom comics
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pinkeoni · 2 years ago
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Jancy Analysis: Jonathan & Nancy's Individual Conflicts
I've been talking about this over the course of a few different posts and asks, but I thought I would make one cohesive post about it in order to coherently organize all of my thoughts on this.
I'm not going to tag this as anti j*ncy because it's actually pro-jancy endgame, but I am going to be talking in depth about the issues in their relationship and a possible breakup, so I understand if any Jancy shippers might wanna skip this one.
As many may have seen, I've been making several posts somewhat stating that I think that Nancy and Jonathan will likely break up very early in the next season. HOWEVER, I want to clarify that I don't think that this necessarily has to affect their status as a couple at the end of the season. A couple can still be endgame even if they took time apart! I also don't think that this is indicative of how they actually feel about each other. Unlike m*leven, I think they love each other very much! I just think that they are likely going to break up as a natural progression of how their story beats have laid out.
In 4x01 we are introduced to Jonathan and Nancy's conflict for the season; they are having miscommunication issues and will not be seeing each other for spring break.
Here's the thing that makes this heartbreaking— both of them actually perfectly understand the others wants and needs. Nancy isn't going to pry Jonathan away from his family and Jonathan isn't going to take Nancy away from the work that she is passionate about. They love each other so much that they can't see each other.
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What leads me to believe that they are breaking up is the fact that this miscommunication is never actually discussed. They have a moment where they say that "they're good," but this wasn't actually addressing the issue. Furthermore, they end with Jonathan still hasn't told Nancy about not applying to Emerson, and Nancy isn’t being honest about Steve (no, I don’t think St*ncy is gonna happen, but that plotline did happen so it there’s no use in ignoring it!). This leaves open a huge plot point that still needs to be resolved!
This lie is actually similar to the painting lie, at least in terms of how it's being used within the writing. Because this lie is not resolved by the end of season 4, it leads me to believe that once this lie does get brought up then it will not end with things staying the exact same way that it was, otherwise what was the point of setting it up in the first place? Not only would it feel unsatisfying, but it would feel like a total cop out.
I don't think that Jancy breaking up would be a bad thing for their arc as a whole, it would not only add more interest and drama but it would also give the characters space to resolve their individual conflicts.
The reasons for why they don't see each other over Spring Break actually reveal bigger conflicts for each character: Jonathan has been lying to Nancy about college because he can't leave his family, and Nancy can't take herself away from what she's working on in order to be with him.
I'll start with Jonathan since I've actually talked about this before and his problem is more identifiable. Ever since their dad left, Jonathan has felt responsible for taking care of his family, something that he shouldn't have to do. He sacrifices parts of himself in order to protect his family, including being with the people he loves and going to the school he wants to go to (which is NYU btw and NOT Emerson!).
Nancy actually has the opposite problem, she is so involved with her work that it often gets in between her and the people that she loves. After Nancy goes on her spiel to Fred about why she can't see Jonathan, she turns down Mike's D&D game! We are shown a clear example of her prioritizing work over family!
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Both of these conflicts is what leads to Jonathan and Nancy having their argument in season 3, an argument that doesn't really get resolved, they just decide to make up because there’s bigger fish to fry. Although, as I stated above, it does seemNow, their argument in this season is pretty complex. They're both right... and they’re both wrong. Nancy was right to get upset at her employers for their sexism, but she was also wrong for not considering Jonathan's position. Jonathan was wrong for not considering Nancy's feelings, but he was also right for getting angry at her for losing him the job. It's not a black and white situation.
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To clarify, I don't think that Nacy being a working woman is a bad thing, nor do I think that Jonathan deeply caring for his family is a bad thing! But I think the reason that both of these arcs are here is for the sake of showing balance. How to balance what you want for your future with the ones that you love.
Now, as I talked about earlier, it does seem like they do understand their personal wants and needs now in season four, but those reasons for the argument in the first place are still there. Neither Nancy nor Jonathan have resolved these issues, and failing to do so will only continue to cause problems in the future, no matter how much they both love each other. That isn’t the problem in their relationship unlike M*leven
Yes Nancy and Jonathan don't need to break up in order to resolve their individual conflicts, but I think separation would at least help create focus. And as stated above, I see their breakup as pretty inevitable anyways. After that though, I think the possibility for endgame is still there. For myself personally I'd be open to either endgame or not, and especially if they get their situation sorted out than I would love to see them together in the end.
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kimarisgundam · 3 years ago
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Ok... so like, I took a break from being online for awhile cos this is my first job after graduating and adulting actually kinda sucks 😅... I'm so sorry for the late response, but I'm finally answering some asks I received 😅
But I feel like I need to address this:
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After queuing my answers, I'm still left with 9 asks. All 9 are Harry Potter related (cos I used to reblog stuff), so I think maybe I should voice my feelings on the matter??
I grew up reading Harry Potter. It was my fav book. I loved the series so much that when Universal Studios first opened The Wizarding World, I immediately begged my mom to buy an airplane ticket
I bought the wand and Hogwarts uniform at Universal Studios. I used to be active on Pottermore with my classmates
I was so proud that I was sorted into Gryffindor cos I always felt I was never brave or strong enough. I literally had a Gryffindor pin that I pinned to my school bag. You know, cos no one believed I was Gryffindor material, so I needed the pin to prove it 😅
In a way it made me braver and more decisive cos I felt like I needed to live up to my House's reputation 😅
That's how much Harry Potter meant to me. HOWEVER
I don't really want to interact with the series now because the way the author is behaving is very disturbing to me
I am not part of the LGBTQ+ community, so my opinion isn't important, take what I say with a grain of salt
I do not agree with Rowling's political views, I find what she says to be very hurtful and disrespectful. I am not personally affected by anything she says, but I feel like I am unable to support someone who actively harms and disrespects other people like this
I agree that sometimes we have to separate the work from the author. However, I'm a little iffy on this cos she's still alive. Like, if she was already dead, I would feel less conflicted. But because she's alive and still actively profiting off her work, I feel that if I don't agree with her I shouldn't be engaging with her work
(I'm not trying to downplaying her literary prowess or disrespect her work or anything... but I just don't want to continue engage with the work of someone I disagree with)
I also want to make it clear that no one is pressuring me to disengage with Harry Potter. It's really my own personal choice. There is literally no "social pressure" for me to drop Harry Potter
I am Chinese, and I live in a fairly conservative Asian country. I'm not sure if it's my country that is conservative, or if it's because Asia is kinda conservative... but LGBTQ+ rights are practically non existent here
Same sex marriage isn't legal here, same sex couples are not allowed to adopt kids here, intimacy between gay men specifically (it's okay for lesbians apparently) is illegal here (like they can literally send you to jail for being gay)
And I'm pretty you can say something like "I think being transgender is wrong and a mental illness" loudly in public and no one will care, or you'll have some random person agreeing with you
^ I don't agree with any of this btw. Just giving examples of how little rights LGBTQ+ people have here. There are a lot of people here who agree with Rowling
It's very easy for me to go watch the movie/buy Harry Potter merch or games cos no one cares
As long as I confine my Harry Potter posts to my private personal blog/Instagram (only followed my people I know locally irl) or post only to the "local side" of Twitter or Instagram, literally no one will call me out
I know majority of my local friends here will continue to consume Harry Potter content. When Fantastic Beasts first came out, we all wore our House scarfs to the movie. They are going to keep up this tradition for the upcoming movie too. I just decided that I don't want to join them
My friends or people who support Harry Potter here aren't bad people, I think it's just cos the "mentality" here is very different. Rowling's views are just an opinion here, so like, everyone is okay with her
I'm actually considered kinda weird 😅. People tell me to chill out cos I'm silly for avoiding her work just cos her opinion is different from mine 😅
But that's my personal choice cos she makes me very uncomfortable. And I'm not backing down cos this is something I decided for myself
I still love Harry Potter... I won't be deleting anything Harry Potter related that I reblogged in the past. I'm just choosing to disengage now, like, ever since she started being disrespectful, I kinda just stopped interacting with Harry Potter content 😅
I actually feel lonely... my friends are going to watch the movie without me... I really want to watch it too... it's our tradition and I'm missing out... but I don't know... it just doesn't feel right to me
I've always been a push over, so I feel like if this is something I chose for myself, and if this is something I believe in, I gotta stand firm. No backing down just cos I feel left out or cos people think I'm silly 😅
Geez... no more interacting with Harry Potter anymore... but I still think I was sorted wrongly 😅. I'm not a Gryffindor, I'm literally sitting here like a sad puppy cos my friends are watching Fantastic Beasts without me 😅... A true Gryffindor wouldn't be sad 😅
No offence to Hufflepuff, but no one in school wanted to be sorted there, and I think I probably belong there because I'm not a Gryffindor 😅
Ahh... I feel frigging miserable 😔. I seriously want to dress up with them... I used to love it so much... But I can't back down
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