#this isn't even a s///jm issue

[ofbreathandflame-archive]

Oh my god, now they're saying Ember is the reason the world was almost destroyed bc of how she raised Bryce...y'all I wish I was making this up....

[kanmom51]

Okay so I had to put my thoughts down in words

I just don’t know how to feel about what Jimin said in the bts of Muse, other than sad.

I guess I should start by saying I’d been dreading him saying something along the lines of that since I heard Who, as to why he made it. The MV bts came and went and then bam, we get a mini production diary, with saying he’s looking for love and is alone. Exactly how I thought he would explain it.

I hoped I’d be wrong but alas, he more than confirmed he is single. I suppose it’s not surprising, but all of our collective hope or support seems in vein now.

I’m still going to watch the travel show but I feel sad about it tbh. They make such a cute pair.

I'm really sorry that you feel that way love.

Especially knowing that you are just not taking what JM said the right way.

In any case babe, whatever you might believe about their relationship, that shouldn't take from you supporting them for being the most adorable human beings possible.

I won't go too much into the BTB. I do think you need to watch it multiple times, try to pay attention to JM's body language too. But I will say that I do think that your reaction here is unwarranted, in the sense that JM IS NOT saying he's single or that he is looking for love or that he is alone.

Let's start with the fact that JM was going for the gender neutral lyrics to start with, but that changed, probably because it sounded better with the "she" instead of the "you".

So, yeah, JM originally wasn't looking for a she, but a you. Funny how if this was an autobiographical song that would have mattered, right? Oh, wait a second. It isn't.

The song is not about JM, not about his real life, not about his actual experiences down to the T.

Not this song, nor Muse the album, even though the other songs were written by him.

Not an autobiography. Unlike Face.

JM says it here and he said it in his album exchange with RM!!

See, it looks like you are doing exactly what JM wanted fans to do. And that is get the wrong idea!!

Did you miss this perhaps?

Yeah, you probably missed JM saying this.

Btw, when JM talks about his diary, I really don't believe he means a personal diary where he writes his wants and needs and experiences, lol. He's talking about that diary where he writes his ideas for the album, his ideas for the songs, where he wrote his lyrics to the songs for Face (we got that diary with Face) and for Muse. And JM, he's a shy boy, Idk if you are aware of that. This young man who oozes confidence on stage is so very shy and the experience of having to explain to John Billion the idea he wants for the song and it coming to life left him a little self conscious, shy.

This isn't about the song telling the story of his life. This is about having to explain an idea for a song, his vision, it actually being something that he isn't going through.

Ok, moving on.

Again, JM explaining the vibe he is going for with the song.

And again his shyness.

He continues to say that he poured all his emotions into this so he's embarrassed.

Not because these emotions are his as in this is what he feels right now longing for love, but because he feels embarrassed to explain his emotions about the song, the emotions he's looking for in the song.

I suggest that if you are having an issue with understanding how this song is not JM, not his life, maybe go rewatch the album exchange with RM.

And read my post on it as well.

These feeling JM is trying to encompass in Muse (and Who) are part of the universal language of love, a language he is using in Muse to convey his message, which is not literal.

And specifically when he talks about Who, it's about that feeling of excitement in his work that he's looking for. Those are the feelings he's talking about. Not the lyrics about the "she" (who was supposed to be a "you"). Not the lyrics that are written in the universal language of love. No. It's about the feelings about his work. The feelings about the message he is trying to convey. Which has NOTHING to do with his love life!!!

But again, he's telling us about those feelings through a language we all understand. So that longing he has for that feeling with his work is brought to life as a longing for a someone to love.

This!!

It's a story he wants to tell!!!

And the whole "everyone's living alone" sentence that you are probably clinging to, cause obviously...

a. He could be talking about the fact that at some point of every person's life, they are living alone, as without a partner, a loved one, and as such it's a relatable feeling.

b. It's not like people that are in relationships don't feel alone at times. Even JM, who was in a committed relationship with JK when going through the struggles and feelings he had and poured into Face, into Alone felt that way. I bet you JK was feeling alone or lonely during the time JM was working on Face and Muse. During those lives in Feb 2023. And yet, he was in a committed relationship with the person he loved.

c. He's trying to tell a story, and he's trying to convey his longing for that feeling with regards to his work, and being lonely is how he's explaining it, the way he's conveying it to us. Hence the "everyone's living alone"... meaning - that is something everyone will understand, meaning, hoping he picked the right idea, the right way to convey his message as the 6th song for Muse!!!

THAT IS ART!!!

And JM created art. Not "this is a song based on my own experience" art, which he did with Face, but "this is a story I want to tell that will help you understand my feelings about my work" art.

And he knew.

He knew people will make the wrong assumptions.

Just like you are right now.

Side note, and before I go, Idk if you have noticed this, but Muse, promoting the album, talking about the album, is so much easier for JM to do than Face. With Face all we got was that it's personal, that he was struggling, but not much more than that. JM was pretty much staying quiet, and even when he did talk he was saying much of nothingness. While with Muse he's talking, he's opening up, he's explaining. You know why? Because it's not about his life!!

Just saying.

[not-goldy]

Someone said he probably didn't show support to Jimin's albums cause he dropped both albums in the middle of His girlfriend's best friend's dropping content. He supported Vibe and Set Me Free but skipped Face and this was when Jisoo released her solo stuff at the same time and Jimin was battling her on the charts. Now with Muse Jimin was up against Lisa, his private plane buddy. Hell he even posted Lisa on his IG more then Jimin. I don't think this was some conflict of interest for him promoting Jimin's over his girlfriend's besties music, but it is kinda funny timing. At the same time, sad cause when Jimin needs him, he's no where to be found. He even supported Jennie right in TKK faces. When she dropped You and ME, he posted that picture of two people dancing & also a song snippet of a red moon & some song talking about me and you together, which was her lyrics and she used a red moon for her theme. I can see supporting his GF, that isn't the issue. Just sad Jimin called it. He said Tae wouldn't do running man with him. Wouldn't do another song like Tae said and wouldn't come to his meet & greet after all those promises and Jimin was correct. He released Fri(end)s, but you can't act like a Vmin truther, 95s is love, one day and then act like his enemy the next and expect people to still buy the he's my best friend/soulmate narrative.

So should we forgive him??🤔

Should I take him back 🤔

For me,it's the fact he could post slides on his page but went crickets for Jimin. I would have felt a whole lot different if he hadn't been active around that time at all.

I didn't enjoy it when Jk did this to Jm on his birthday I certainly don't enjoy Tae doing this. Especially when Jimin did everything to support him during his and even went to visit his meet and greet with his fans knowing damn well Tae stans hate his guts.

Hope he loses his keys and locks himself out of his car

[nightswithkookmin]

https://twitter.com/jmnpromise/status/1584878533255364608?t=xtBET9bYwZQnFeXk5uGxZg&s=19

Goldy what's your take on tge shift of yoonmin dynamic? We know that suga used to adore jm and was close back in the days but at some point they get distant from each other, then we see them latly close again being paired up most of the time and suga tries to complement jm a lot, do you think that they hade some issues in the past and know they're working on their friendship?

Oh YOOOONMMMMMIINNNNNN!!!! My old love☹

Take a look here people- A true hyung dongsang relationship dynamic unfolding before our very eyes😍😍😍😍😍😋

Chilee not me feeling all warm and fussy inside🤧

Look at JM's cheek to cheek smile🥺🥺🥺🥺

No but Suga is so coola!

Glad to see him take a compliment back without cringing good for him.

He is what I wished I could be to Jimin if I didn't want to fuck him🙃

Just give give give to him but take nothing in return, want nothing, expect nothing cos I know my feelings will never be reciprocated🙃

But my toxicity would not allow me to be his friend 😴

Certainly not Jungkook's.

Neither he nor I are Santa and your boy gotta pay up

There's nothing wrong with them. That's just their dynamic. They're not in love but they don't hate eachother either. They bicker, then they go civil, then the next moment it's nuclear war and Jimin is cussing out in French Spanish and Swahili 😭

But it's all love.

If it helps think of JM as periodically having PMS around Suga. Sometimes it's nothing personal, he just doesn't want to be touched or dotted on or have people cling on to him while he trying to stand there serve looks and look pretty for the camera🙂

Seen his legs when he stands? I rest my case.

If your mom never slicked down your brows with her saliva in front of your friends you won't know JMs pain😭😭😭😭😭😭

You can't go anywhere with bangtan sometimes 😫😫

Other times too frankly his boyfriend just isn't in a good mood and he doesn't want to make things worse between them by feeding ships😕

Yoonmin are not the naturally gravitating towards each other duo in the group. Doesn't mean they have bad blood. But when you have Jikook constantly sitting together gravitating towards eachother it leaves no room for them to be seen with other people.

Sometimes its necessary the company steps in to pair members up if not we wouldn't get a single content on certain ships- AT ALL.

Curating ships by the company is an affirmative action and a way to guarantee equitable distribution else that's when they get accused of playing favoritism. That's when certain ships state complaining the company is hiding their ship content blah blah blah BORING.

And I think Jimin lowkey is aware of this so sometimes he tries. He tries to make time. Sit apart from Jungkook. Interact with other members lest they start complaining they've missed him etc.

When Jikook are "forced apart" most times they are on board with it- JM is. Jungkook don't give a fuck. No need to draw unnecessary attention to them or have people asking unnecessary questions like why yall two always together, why don't you hang out with this person or that person also.

Like how recently JM said he was gonna come fo a live with V and suddenly everyone is like do one with JK too, Suga too- then he's like I'll bring everybody. Jungkook would up said straight up he's gone what he's gone do.

Any way. You are right.

Jimin have always looked up to Suga within the group because he respects the man Suga is at his core. Suga gives sound advice and he's been a constant source of inspiration and encouragement- Jimin I really blessed.

Yoonmin isn't Vmin and so we don't expect the same level of vulnerability and intimacy that's the signature of Vmin in Yoonmin. That would be like comparing apples and oranges.

But there is a vulnerability to them in the way Suga being a senior takes care of this younger one. Or even in the way Jimin brings himself to take his nurturing and his advice.

Jimin is irreplaceable. He has the best voice among the singers or so Yoongi believes. And that's just the thing with them, Suga believes in the potential of Jimin just as Jimin believes in the potential of Jungkook. In a way those two ships can be very similar if you want to take the bangtan hyung/dongsaeng relationship dynamics as an equation.

I'd say Suga is the best hyung in the group in terms of his relationship with the younger ones and Jimin will come second to him- seen in his relationship with Jungkook. And if you want to take his relationship with the hyungs into consideration too💀

Hobi is great too but I don't see him mentoring the boys the way Suga or Namjoon does. Yet he is best at nurturing them and catering to their emotional needs. However you are not about to catch him taking anyone out to the bar to bond as per ethnic male culture or masculine traditions.

Suga gives off Rafiki vibes if you know what I mean

Its giving spiritual guide and sage to Jimin.

He's had profound influence on Jimin's self confidence than people give him credit for. He's always the one telling Jimin, go for it, you can do it, nevermind what people will say, don't be shy, there's nothing embarrassing about this. You are beautiful, your voice is unique, believe in yourself, I will always believe in you.

He affirms JM which is one of the purest ways to express love for another.

You know that nevermind tattoo is on his ribs for a reason.

Suga is wise but also very ambitious and a go getter.

That's something I see in Jimin also. But he needs a bit of a push sometimes and Suga and Namjoon are very good at spurring him on.

They are adorable.

[synonymouswithanonymous]

What? And Several Thoughts.

More thoughts, as always don't expect anyone to read. 😊😊

"Simply because they don’t know anything about her or anything beyond her IG content."

I've said this all before but to reiterate. Neither do you. None of us do. I snatched this quote from elsewhere, but really we don't know any better than the other over 10,000 followers. You're only guessing at the personality you want her to have, and you're biased against her already, bc she's dating an actor you like. Whether it's jealously or whatever you want to call it, to pretend you have some magical insight that he, his parents, his friends, and coworkers etc don't have is irrational and ridiculous. Maybe everyone else in her very real life, has a better more clearer view than you? I'm going to guess that logically they do, at least my personality guess is supported by real-world views from people that know her in real life. 😊 Everything they say about her, is what she seems to be, to me. Lovely, empathetic, talented, intelligent, down to earth, and sweet. 😊 Maybe others (over 10K) see her the same way too, bc that's how she really is? I think so. 😊😊😊

Also my post about her getting blamed for things she hasn't done is holding up well. Lol 😂😂 she likes to knit, then they still try to twist a picture of knitting supplies into something more (that they imagined, so they can throw more names at her over imaginary scenarios).

it's not the first time she's posted on the war in Gaza. She's posted a few times. And since when does anyone have to go public with their opinion on wars, politics, or do charity work publicly? She'd be accused of doing it only for likes.......oh wait she already has. That playbook is recycling ✔ ✔ 's. Lol

"In 2024 we should be able to say that killing children is wrong without being accused of taking a side or encouraging hate" -JM

Everyone should be able to say that without either side blacklisting or threatening to blacklist bc of saying that and/or not taking a public stance. Whatever happened to respecting public neutrality? Especially when the most common response is "what does that celeb think they know?" Or "who asked them?" And when did saying the death of children isn't right, become something either side would blacklist anyone over? Why are actors being blacklisted at all? As if their opinions were going to make or break the issues at hand? Why is it important for anyone to know which side they stand with (or if they're neutral and don't want to say)? Why is it important to hurt them if they don't side with one or the other? Is this another attempt at control? Do and say what I want or face consequences in your career? That's bullying or blackmail. Imo.

People have been fired off of franchises/movies/shows etc for their comments on the war and/or comments about civilian deaths. It's coming from the public and studios.

What are we doing reliving the Communist Scare of the 1950s? I wouldn't say this is a convenient topic to post about, but rather an alarming and honestly frightening topic for those in show business. A very current real time event that's been happening. Why wouldn't she acknowledge or discuss what's happening in her line of work? She's brave, imo, though for speaking out on it.

It's an important issue. I'm sure since she's in show business, she's probably heard industry talk about this. I say I'm sure here, bc if it's on the news, regular non showbiz people know about it, then the people of that industry would probably already at least know it's happening. Bc they're part of that world from the inside.

I hope none of this is directly affecting them, or their job prospects.

[tokyokookmin]

Hello. I am ex -taekooker . I wanted to share something. When I was new to this fandom , I thought everybody 'ships' tae-kook and people told me they are a COUPLE. I believed them . They add me jn their taekook gc. They all talked about things and especially about jimin. From them I had these things in my mind 1) Jk doesn't likes jm 2) Jm wants jk and wanted to separate jm - V 3) jikook is fanservice 4)BTS cover taekook from Jikook 5) HYBE Is hiding taekook and wants jikook to spend time together everyday so that taekook can be hidden. 6) Whatever tae loves jk so much , jk do love him but at times he choose jm over tae bcz he spends time with jm ( forcefully) but jm seduces him and he melts. 7) Taekook wants to come out as couple fully but hybe doesn't wants them to. So tae is loud about his relationship with jk and he has called them couple, baby, baby bear , members also said they kiss like they eat rice, they disappear from award show because they couldn't control themselves and had 'S£x' in the bathroom ,jk gave tae a BJ on a vlive , they kissed on vlive (outside the frame)

Basically these were the proof I was given and I thought oh shit yes if this has happened then maybe they Could be a couple. But then I started watching og contents , bangtan bomb , I came across GCF , my whole life turned upside down , I watched vlives of every member? Ot7 and I started noticing "KOOKMIN" , more and more, theories, sun and the moon , black and white , red and blue, yellow-purple , 013 , birthdays,members talking about jikook ,hickey,especially their eye contacts in the vlives , their body towards each other while sitting or standing, 24/7 together and all. Then the quest Arises "WE GOT EVERY MEMBERS BIRTDHAY CELEB BUT NOT JIKOOK ? 🤔🤔" . How can their eyes be so fake? If this is all fake , why they smile everytinw they see each other or hear each other ? I cane out of my taekook zone and face the reality. O asked them about ITS taekook conco , they shrugged it and said it was all scripted so people think they are dirfted apart.

I left the gc and Started reading blogs here. Especially UR BLOGS AND MY GOODNES....I AM SUPPORTING JIKOOK AND WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT THEM..rela or Not ❤

Even if they turned out not to be dating , yes it will hurt but I would always say there was More than JUST friendship , whatever it is in between them , It's Real

(Sorry if my eng is bad, not my first language)

Hello anon! 😊Thank you for sharing these details with me. I really had no idea how much tkkrs deceives newcomers 😳😳.I'm glad that you didn't believe them, as I always say, watch OG video, it helps many to get more clarity on what is the truth and what isn't.

Feeling really happy since at least one ex taekooker has stepped up to address the issues going on within the fandom. You saw what was happening and you it shared to us, kudos to your bravery.

Gcf has always had special significance, it symbolises the inner love that jk couldn't convey through words but did as a video. Jikook bond truly is unique.♡

I love you so much anon! Thank you for appreciating my posts, thank you for believing in jikook. Also, your English is perfect!! ❤️

this made reallyyy happyyy, here's a few soft moments that I would love to share , cause why not? The community is pretty silent these days.

Okay that's enough LOL.

[vidalinav]

Okay S/JM stans saying she made it clear that Illyrians are POC in recent books is driving me insane. "Golden brown" is NOT a clear representation because she's also used "golden" to describe white people.

No matter that Cassian without a shirt bordered on obscene, even with the collection of scars peppering his golden-brown skin. (ACOSF)

[Rowan's] skin had deepened to a golden brown—he must have spent time outdoors these past weeks. (QOS)

I could be wrong, but isn't Rowan white? Why is she using golden brown to describe him? Her descriptions are so confusing and her "representation" is one of the worst. There are other characteristics besides skin colour (hair texture, facial features, etc) that she could have used to make it more obvious.

Well golden-brown in this context means tan and there are of course people who are tan no matter what and people who are only tan when they go out into the sun.

I do think her representation needs some work, and quite a bit of it, because it should probably not be interpretable.

But hosab was a tad better about it, so I know she is not completely hopeless or lost. She's just unfortunately white, and unfortunately not consistent, though she can and should get better and she's not absolved from the responsibility, she will probably not be better at it then say reading a book from an author who is a person of color. Perhaps, that's the issue--everyone should be reading more books from people of color.

However, I think with Illyrians specifically, you can't necessarily boil down their representation of race/ethnicity just by their skin color, which I've made a post about. Not even in the real world can you do that but alas... You have to look at how Illyrians are framed in the text socially and culturally, which is slightly different from the rest. You have to see the perspective that other people in the book take on them, which is that they have backwards laws to the protags, traditional values, a rich culture of stories, superstitions, traditions, and community roles. They have a tightknit community that tends to not like outsiders but does have progress, though that progress is not as fast as the protags would want. They don't have spices (which ugh, but I guess they live in the mountains). They live in the mountains. They all for the most part have wings, dark hair, a lot of brown and hazel eyes. They have their own hierarchical structure.

Now yes, you can definitely say well Illyrians are real people in the past, and they're Indoeuropean, but a pretty a quick google search will say that that would make them probably modern day Albanian. Would I consider them white? Racially maybe, but not ethnically. That makes a difference. White unfortunately is a very Western perspective, and unless we want to debate how we categorize race, unfortunately in this day and age, it's not just skin color or facial features or hair texture that causes discrimination and marginalization. Though those things do factor in.

You also have to think that this is a fantasy world. What does race mean in a fantasy world where are social implications are not exactly the same? Of course, we still want an abundance of skin tone variation, and feature variability, because that's biological. But race and ethnicity is often times simplified to mean only facial features, only skin color, etc, but race and then breaking down race to ethnicity in a social context and not a biological one, is language, shared cultural values, clothing, tradition, religion, etc.

I am ethnically Chicana, but I'm racially white. Can I say that I am white? No. Do I look white? No. Will I be treated like someone who is white? Probably not. Is my culture white? Depends. I'm culturally very American, but do I have influences of Cuban and Mexican backgrounds? Yes. Would that influence look different if I was raised in a different country, even another Western one? Yes.

An author will not get kudos for writing someone as a POC, but then write no implications of being a POC. They'll then be writing white characters, telling us they have dark skin, and we'll be saying yay for diversity and inclusion. No! That's not how it works.

It's much more complicated and I implore people to look at not just what characters look like but how they're viewed, the parts in which they're placed in, how complex they are, the narrative that they're given. All of that means something. I find it so much more valuable to debate how the Illyrians are viewed as backwards to the imperialistic main characters, who for some reason don't like their own culture but use the people from their culture quite often for war, then to debate whether we can consider them POC or not by the several different shades of brown she could have used. 

[alectology-archive]

Isn't there a part in C/City where Bruce cures her depression with essential oils? (Forgive me if this is wrong, I haven't read the book) I don't know how this part hasn't been absolutely lambasted or why that part was even kept in the book. There are people like me who have been struggling with depression for years and this is absolutely revolting to see since it just sorta shrugs off how serious depression really is.

You’re right: Bryce uses essential oils instead of visiting a therapist. She says she didn’t visit a therapist because she felt “she deserved the pain”. 

But the fact remains that S/jm has struggled with mental health especially since around November (I think) and she said that it was really important to see a therapist during one of her livestreams, and to let your loved ones help you. She even said that denying that she was depressed didn’t help her in anyway. 

And yet none of that shows in C/city. Instead, s/jm actually says something like the essential oils had helped. I read somewhere (can’t recall where) that Bloomsbury even capitalised on that and included some essential oils in some special book box. It belittles people suffering from mental health issues and holds them to unrealistic standards. The message is, essentially, that you can overcome any mental health issue if you’re just strong and smart enough which is just wrong. 

It’s *possible* that even s/jm and her editors could have missed the harmful messages being conveyed in the book, but that’s what sensitivity readers are for. And despite her experiences, she didn’t care enough to turn to them for help. 

I really have no clue as to why she's not being held accountable, and I’m still mad about it. Either the readers are simply silent about it, still can’t recognise her faults, or she’s simply not gained any new readers. (The NYT can claim what it wants but I refuse to believe that C/City hit #1 when Ninth House didn’t even after S/tephen King tweeted about it several times and even recommended it in an interview.)

I personally hope the book is being treated like some of the paranormal romance books by J/R Ward and N/alini Singh that s/jm is so fond of (and also plagiarises). 

[kanmom51]

Like Crazy - new insights

*This is a reposting of my latest reblog due to issues with that specific post.

***This has been sitting in my drafts since April 2023!!!

This is the post I reblogged and the basis to my own post.

Yep. I had some of a post written way back in April 2023, but the pieces just didn't come all together for me.

After Muse's release and specifically after the BTB yesterday where JM discussed Who, Muse and the lyrics, we also saw the change made to Who's lyrics from "you" to "she" things started to clear up for me. But then, a friend also shared a picture of the original lyrics of Like Crazy, which were subsequently altered before recording. We discussed these changes and I now feel that this is it! This is the missing piece to my post.

I mostly left what I wrote over a year ago in tact, adding the missing pieces to this puzzle that makes this post with what I feel is a little more insight into Like crazy.

Needless to say, these are my opinions, how I see the lyrics, the ones that made the cut and the ones that stayed in JM's lyrics journal.

So, let's get started:

Here I was thinking I'm the only one who was seeing this...

I do hope I'm reading this right, before going off motormouth about something that maybe isn't what is being said, but to hell with it, this is something I've been thinking too and I'm just gonna come out and say it.

We're all over 18 here right?

This is a subject we can talk about?

The more I listen to this song, the more I think it to be true too.

First of all, before starting off, I want to link this ask:

**Shock and awe... "she" wasn't part of the original lyrics for Like Crazy . Colour me surprised to learn the same is true with Who (even though JM didn't actually write the song himself). Oh, and if we are on that subject already, how not surprising to see the process of writing the song with John Billion, who happens to be one of the writers of SNTY as well (me sitting here thinking of several words and references that could have been somehow suggested and inserted into the song. No idea who (nah, I'm telling lies, I know exactly who). How shocking (NOT) to see that the artist actually had input with the song lyrics of which he is not credited in writing.

Again, the depth of the song, the layers to the song and the multiple interpretations too.

JM told us this song is about him struggling. He told us he was going through a period where he was drinking too much. He was finding fulfillment in ways other than performing, as performing is part of him, he is a performer, someone who needs the stage to express himself. The stage is where he is at peace, the stage being a piece of him that he was missing.

We saw his outburst of emotions in the first day of MOTS ON:E (that was my first experience of BTS and he literally broke my heart - and later seeing him being mocked for it infuriated me).

This was October 2020, around 6 months into the pandemic. The uncertainty. This is their first online performance and from there until Muster another 9 months go by. We know from Festa 2022 that the pandemic screwed up all of their plans. The uncertainty, working on and releasing BE and then Butter and PTD everything leading up to the PTD online concert, a year after MOTS ON:E. For those that performing is their life, standing in front of an audience and giving it their all, it's a hard pill to swallow. The unknown, if they will ever get back to perform on stage in front of a live audience, when this is who they are, their essence, it can be unbearable. JM wasn't the only performer to go through this. It's just that he shared this with us. He showed us his pain and vulnerability and was mocked for it by many. Shame on them!!!

So, again, JM told us with Like Crazy, that he was filling in that hole. Alcohol was mentioned by him specifically. But listening to the song, I think it's quite clear that sex was a very big part of it as well. Looking for that rush, that high. It's clear as day, for me anyway, in the lyrics.

(I think we could last forever I'm afraid that everything will disappear Just trust me)

[Verse 1] She's saying Baby, don't think about it There's not a bad thing here tonight Baby, you can leave it Stay with me until today

[Verse 2] Watch me go Wet me all night (Away) And morning too Don't come if you're drunk

In this loud music It fades me It's a drama-like story I'm get used to it Have you come far to find me that you used to know? Yeah, I know You know, I know (Ooh)

[Chorus] I'd rather be Lost in the lights Lost in the lights I'm outta my mind It holds to the end of this night Every night You spin me up high The moon that embraces you Let me have a taste

[Post-Chorus] Give me a good ride (Oh, I'm fallin', I'm fallin', I'm fallin') It's gon' be a good night (Oh, I'm fallin') Forever you and I

[Interlude] Mmm-hmm Yeah, hey Mmm-hmm Ooh-woah Mmm-hmm Mmm-hmm (Forever, you and I)

[Verse 3] Me reflects in the mirror I'm going crazy without hesitation I'm feelin' so alive, wasting time

I'd rather be Lost in the lights Lost in the lights I'm outta my mind It holds to the end of this night Every night You spin me up high The moon that embraces you Let me have a taste

[Post-Chorus] Give me a good ride (Oh, I'm fallin', I'm fallin', I'm fallin') It's gon' be a good night (Oh, I'm fallin') Forever you and I

[Outro] This will break me This is gonna break me (Break me) No, don’t you wake me (Wake me) I wanna stay in this dream, don't save me Don't you try to save me (Save me) I need a way we (Way we) I need a way we can dream on (On, on, on)

Those are the lyrics he recorded.

But you see, there were changes made to the lyrics he was working on originally, and we got to see some of them.

This specifically:

Reading this draft and the final ones there are a few things that just fall into place for me (and I'd think for anyone that reads them), loud and clear:

First of all, obviously JM is singing about drinking too much alcohol. If the final lyrics hinted to losing himself in alcohol, the draft lyrics are ever so clear regarding that point.

Second of all, the sex. I think JM was pretty straight forward using the wording he was using. "Give me a good ride" can be other things, if you twist it around to try and explain it away, but bottom line, those lines within the context of the lines in the draft, like "just go turn off the light, you and me..." not to mention the whole chorus, to me the reference is obvious.

Next, I talked about the many references to JK in this song in this post:

This is all also relevant when it comes to my next point being the fact that to me it's clear that JM wrote this song referencing a special someone with whom he shares a high level of intimacy. A special someone that was there by his side when JM was struggling. A special someone that was struggling seeing JM going through everything he was.

To that person JM wrote (in the draft): "oh baby don't you cry, just wanna see your smile..."

These lines, they were too much. Too obvious. Too intimate. And they were left out probably because of just that.

So JM went with other lines. A little less obvious perhaps, and yet still very telling. The finale of the song:

No, don’t you wake me (Wake me) I wanna stay in this dream, don't save me Don't you try to save me (Save me) I need a way we (Way we) I need a way we can dream on (On, on, on)

Now, you could claim that the song is about an inner struggle. JM struggling with himself, talking to himself, and yes, that could very much be part of the message JM, the king of layering, is going for. But see, that's exactly the point. JM is the king of layering, of having several meanings and messages within his lyrics and creations. And this is not different. There is no mistaking the reference to another person, not JM himself, in the lyrics. The way he uses the "you" in the lyrics, at times could pass as you being the alcohol, at times the you being himself in the mirror, but at times it's clearly a third party he is talking to. Especially in that finale to the song, that someone that wants to lift him out of that stupor he is in, to wake him up, to save him, when he is unwilling, not ready to accept that help just yet (same person he asks not to cry, knowing that he is making them sad). There are also the clear JK references in this song. The "you are me I am you" being the loudest of them all.

But JM being JM, he showed us in his own way what this song was about, opening up and allowing us to see his drafts.

And then he gave us Letter. Hidden, and private and intimate. Addressed not to us, but to that person that was always there by his side, that person he addresses in Like Crazy telling him "forever you and I". Now, in Letter, being in a better, healthier place, he can repeat the sentiment of them together forever. A sentiment JK had mentioned in the past (omg, that was so very awkward).

And now using lines like : "I sincerely hope we are forever" and "But don’t forget that we’re always together"...

The lyrics, the sentiments, the drafted lyrics that never made it, like the use of "Dangshin", I have talked about it all. Letter was for JK. Period.

When seeing Like Crazy again, the lyrics, the struggle, the person by his side, the intimacy, and Letter, I'm kind of thinking that not only is Letter a love ode to JK. That is stating the obvious. But it's also JM's acknowledgement and thank you to that person that stood by his side in his most difficult of times.

JK.

Bottom line:

Like crazy is about JM struggling and self medicating with alcohol and sex.

It's personal about himself, his struggles, but also includes a person that is there by his side, one he is highly intimate with, one who is there with him together. That person is there, spending the nights with him, in that escape world JM created for himself. Sad seeing JM struggle, trying to find a way to help JM out of that pit but being unable to do so, staying by JM's side all the same.

We know who that person is.

Same person he addresses Letter to.

[kanmom51]

I apologize for bringing back old moments, but when jikook were late for that radio interview, I honestly want to know what was going on in other members' heads, because whenever some of my friends were late to something because they were hanging out with their boyfriend before, my mind immediately went to the one thing even if it wasn't the case 😂. I truly believe the traffic was the issue, but I still wonder if the boys were slightly freaking out for what it might have looked like for others, especially the fans, since they are aware of the "shippers". I hope it makes sense. English isn't my first language and it is harder to express my thoughts properly. Have a great day/evening.

Ask 2:

I think about the day Jikook were late, there is so much to unpack about that day, but a moment that gets overlooked is when JK is telling his story and his immediate response is to look at JM and say don't laugh and JM said he's not. That reminds me so much of when I'm trying to talk or do something and I get shy and I will instantly say to my husband, don't say a word or don't laugh. JKs reaction was only toward JM, cause JM's reaction is what he cares about & gets shy over. Boyfriend behavior.

This is MBC radio interview from 14 September 2020. We talk about JM & JK being ‘late’ for the interview. Yes, they arrives together, but they were only approx. 4 minutes into the interview when they both arrived.

Anon 1 - yeah, it was quite awkward when they were waiting for Jikook, and I think it's mainly because of them being late and not because they thought they were up to something or because they thought anyone thought it was suspicious. It's about being polite, being on time and nothing else, at least that's what I think.

The interview was broadcast on September 14 at 7 pm KST. This isn’t Jikook coming to work together in the morning. JM walked in 4 minutes after the boys were sat down and started to talk to the interviewer.

Them arriving 4 min. late isn’t too suspicious, it only put a spotlight, once again, on the fact that it's the two of them choosing to ride together.

As soon as Jimin comes in he is asked where is JK, and then he says “he’s coming. The traffic…”, and that’s that on the matter. JK comes running in around a minute later.

Now we are talking again about 7 pm, which would be kind of at the edge of peak hour, so traffic could be a truthful explanation as to them being delayed by a few minutes (we know they were 4 min. late for the interview, but as we don’t know exactly when the other members arrived, how much time before the actual interview started, so we don’t know exactly how much longer it took the two to get there).

Let's get digging into the interview:

When asked about music influences when JM was answering he was influenced by RM but also other members…

Now to anon 2's ask. JK's "don't laugh" reaction.

When they move on from JM to JK and he starts talking, first thing to say was “same for me”. This is pretty much a JK usual when it comes to JM, hence the ensuing reaction...

At this point the camera is on JK. We can hear someone maybe holding back a laugh. Then the camera turns to Suga, Jin & JM and we hear JK saying “hey, don’t laugh”. JM isn’t laughing or smiling, but then he turns to Jin, and you can see that Jin is probably the one that laughed, and is now holding back his laugh. That gets JM smiling.

Then JM goes back to being super attentive to JK.

JK continues to say how at first RM was the one he saw and wanted to join the company and after how members helped him develop his interest (talking while signing in JM’s direction?) – what immediately came to mind was the talk JK&JM told us about during their live, when JK was thinking of not debuting…

When asked what they do when they are not working, what their interests are. JK answers:

"Well I try many different things not to mention working on music, I do boxing, play the guitar, draw, cook, work out, and then repeat everything."

JM’s facial expression when JK mentioned his dabbing in editing…I wonder why…

As a whole, the way JM was looking at JK during the interview…

Jin mentions JK was addicted to Pizza for a whole month, JK confirms that, and JM’s face when he does (has poor Jiminie been eating pizza for a month?).

For some reason both JK & JM found it quite amusing when the interviewer said “so, your interest is to concentrate on something”…

The camera loved JK in this interview, well, the interviewer did tell him he is handsome...

[vidalinav]

Firstly, no one wants a therapy book. These are books about Faeries. So no one is sitting wanting to read about withdrawals, puking, crying and screaming. Maybe a very SMALL contingent of readers. Not the majority. Nesta falling down the stairs, Nesta refusing to train, Nesta giving attitude to Cassian, that's it. That's the withdrawals. Since she is not a full blown alcoholic or a sex addict, there wouldn't be massive withdrawals. She is not Amy Winehouse.

Secondly, the intervention is done exactly for that reason--so she doesn't turn into Amy Winehouse. It's not 'implied' that she is having potentially dangerous sex with people who could hurt her. It's a fact. She says it herself. It's not 'implied' that she drinks too much. She says it herself. It's observed. The concern isn't that she is doing those things--no one is looking for her to become a sweet, celibate virgin. The concern is that she is doing these things TOO much. That's how you become an addict.

People in power, on whom she depends decided to step in and put an end to it. That's how interventions work. Especially since she decided to be completely dependent on them financially. If she had a job, then yes, no one can tell her what to do. You make your own bed and decisions, and that's what she did.

The whole 'sisterly' involvement--she was the person who cut everyone out. She cut out Feyre, then Elain, Cassian, Amren. It was her decision. What are they going to do? Did Elain not try to get involved in her life? Did she not invite her to Solstice? Elain was the only person who gave her a gift. Was it Elain or Nesta who decided that they didn't the other? As I recall, Nesta didn't acknowledge Elain on the street. She refused to participate. So should the sisters just take it? Accept the bullshit and keep the checks coming? Should Feyre and Elain just sit back and watch Nesta spiral out of control until she does become an addict and/or gets raped? or hurt? Yes, there comes a time when you are just fed up and Elain, or Feyre, are not obligated to coddle Nesta and let get do whatever it is that she wants to do, and watch her hurt herself.

I am aware of your opinions and you will never agree and I know you'll still insist that the IC is horrible and the sisters don't care. But honestly, they saved Nesta so there is that.

I sometimes don't know whether I should just delete these, because someone always write a whole ass aggressive post in the anons when you know you could just post it yourself. But sometimes I get a lot of joy out of these-- I wish you put this much energy in analyzing the actual text but alas.

Anyway, let me read.

Point 1: this is not a therapy book. I agree S/JM should stop writing about trauma.

Point 2: The intervention is done for exactly that reason--I argue that you don't know the reason and neither do I, and nor do I feel that S/JM does. You can definitely argue about addiction and where it leads, but I can argue that the text doesn't support that she has one or one that warrants an intervention beyond offering a support system, which then I ask why the intervention is there at all, since I know very well that characters do not have autonomy and this was an author's choice. I question S/JM's narrative decisions and how they are framed in the novel which is why I cannot support specific claims about characters.

Point 3: I already talked about this in a reblog. So I'm going to dismiss this one.

Point 4: If the intention on behalf of the writer is to show that they care, then... I got to see scenes where they care. It can't be speculation. It has to be concrete. If the goal is to show realism, then you have to show realistic consequences of trauma, the dirt of it all, and then also the push and pull of healing which arguably is not in here. You can show people being annoyed by her trauma, that's realistic but it's not realistic for someone to jump into an intervention. You know realistically, as in of this world, you cannot force anyone to be in a program without their consent, and they can leave at any time. Of course there are certain instances where this is not true, but it takes years to get people the healing or help for addiction/trauma that they need and if people don't want to heal well you can't do nothing about it. That's realistic.

If you are arguing that Nesta is rolling down a steep hill to nowheresville as it seems then... by all means it probably should take more than giving a gift at solstice, which doesn't make Elain nor Feyre look good that this is the height of trying. To go straight to intervention without convincing evidence that it's needed nor that they tried literally anything else is my point. So if the goal was to make the foundation for a sisterly relationship, I am not convinced. If the goal was to show they care, I am certainly not convinced.

The objective of any book is to convince the reader of something. If you did not convince a bulk of the readership, whether that be anti-Nesta's who are not quelled or pro-Nesta's who are not satisfied, then the writer did not convince well enough. Which is what I am saying specifically about the benevolence of the IC. That claim lacks contextual evidence. It is not about whether I like them or not. Who cares about that? I like interesting characters, I am arguing that if the author herself wanted me to believe they were "good" or morally righteous, she did not provide that basis. Actually she gave me a lot of evidence that they aren't. Which is fine, if it amounts to something. If doesn't then, S/JM wrote an unconvincing book.

Point 5: The book says that Nesta saved the IC, literally. The IC did not save Nesta, neither literally nor emotionally. That would mean they were directly involved or... empathetic and supportive, which I already said I'm not convinced and why that is. What saved Nesta and what made the majority of the book was the House, her friends, a goal, the Mother, and a romantic relationship. A support system. I can argue that. Anyone can argue that. For one, because the IC is notably absent for most of the book and when they're there they don't look great. Then you have to think why did S/JM make a relationship that is supportive and have that parallel the presence/absence of the IC who is blatantly not? Doesn't make them look great again. Interesting yes they are, but not benevolent.

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Look, I'm assuming the point of sending me an anon is because you don't agree and you don't know what to do with that, but you also don't want to reblog and you want to make sure I see this post, because I probably wouldn't. It is totally within your right to argue. I love discussions even with people who do not agree with me. But I want to discuss things. So, give me contextual evidence. Give me lines, give me connections. Connect them dots. Once you have done this then hit me up and we'll discuss. Right now your argument is based on opinion alone. You think this. You think that. Purely speculative. It's not based on anything and therefore can't be argued well. For lack of a better way to say this, I don't care about your opinion. Opinions are not fact. They don't mean anything, they're as good as the people behind them. I want to discuss the text and how it works, and what it does, and how it's supported. The consequences of certain narrative decisions.

So, if you think the IC is supportive and justified and want to tell me specifically, show me how they are--by the book, how scenes are framed, what actions characters take along the path to the end. Not by what you know interventions are or because the idea of mental health/substance abuse issues is generally hard to deal with--that's not good enough. You cannot argue the text without using the text either in quote or paraphrasing or giving examples especially on a post where I am talking about the evidence and the lack of it. You said I wouldn't change my mind, you don't know that. I can certainly see something from your pov, but you have to do more than this.

You chose to leave an anon, so you either do the homework or you don't leave an anon with me.