#this is why people make fun of Solangelo shippers guys 😭 grow up

[ursie]

Since no one can feel safe because it’s privileged, isn’t it actually backing racism, homophobia, ableism…? I mean, since nobody deserves feeling safe why would we report and act against it? Safe space don’t exist, so… idk… let’s invade lgbt tags and subreddits with hate? Why shouldn’t they feel welcome anywhere. Let’s invade Black Lives Matter with hate, because why should they have their own supportive tag? Oh, people block anti tags to feel safe? Well, let’s spill hate in non anti tags, why would anyone deserve nice things?

Fyi, most of this “criticism” was just people putting “Solangelo toxic” in tag with no explanation whatsoever. That’s not criticism, that’s being awful. You had to scroll down through dozen of posts like this to find ONE explaining why the person thinks so. Yes, some shippers were nasty and awful attacking insightful posts. But some were trying to present their arguments in normal way and people like you just put them in the same category like the others. At this point you all don’t care about stating facts. You’re just trying to attack other people regardless, just to make them feel bad. That’s why you’re putting it all in Solangelo tag, since anti Solangelo tag can easily be blocked. Most of you present no arguments. You’re just running around screaming “toxic! ableist!” and having nothing else to offer. At the same time you’re shipping far more toxic ships pretending you’re oh-so-rightful.

This is legitimately the funniest anon ever way to not have critical thinking skills and present the most disingenuous counter argument humanly possible <3 good to know you can’t handle discussions in good faith.

Anyway .

Inherent context is key-fandom tags are about fandoms and the players there are members of said fandom whereas in the examples you’ve listed you’re talking about actual minorities and not a fandom? There’s a difference in power between two Pjo stans having a difference in opinion about Solangelo and a cishet man being homophobic in lgbt+ spaces my dude. For starters one affects real actual people irl-whilst the other is about fictional characters

Critical thinking isn’t hate? Fandom tags are for the discussion and community of said fandom-that includes critical thinking and yes even hate-it may not always be fun to see but that is what the block button is for-putting negative posts in main tags is not only not morally wrong it’s literally what a tag feature is designed for my dude

You shouldn’t compare real life bigotry to discourse about online etiquette my dude especially when in your argument your equating allegations of ableism to “ship discourse”

I have made countless posts explaining why and how Solangelo is ableist. I’ve never called it toxic to my memory as again these are fictional children. The vast majority of the crit posts were about the fandom at the moment and therefore not about presenting the entire argument from beginning to end. Also if you need minorities to explain the bigotry they’re facing in a polite or easily to digest manner you’re probably the person they’re complaining about. You’re not entitled to an explanation. You sent this ask you certainly could of done some research.

There is no “normal” way to justify ableism. It’s still upsetting when it’s in the defense of bigotry. “Non threatening” bigotry is still violence. Disabled people are always allowed to be upset about it no many how nice the bigots are.

There have been countless posts “stating facts” disabled people shouldn’t have to cite exact statistics everytime they point out ableism has happened. There is an entire rr crit tag and countless post’s elsewhere delving into people’s issues with his works. If you want the information you are free to get it. Again minorities shouldn’t have to do all the intellectual labor. I say as I explain this to you -_-

Again ship tags are for that and using keywords automatically puts it in the tag. Also again posts about bigotry are more important than personal comfort. Your safe space is not more important than all Disabled people in the fandom my dude

Critical thinking and posts holding bigots and their ideals accountable aren’t attacks and if you truly feels so defensive over them I’d self reflect on that.

Again the tags are present and frankly the words toxic and ableist are enough. They mean things. If a disabled person calls something ableist that is enough my dude.

I don’t speak for everyone’s ships-I’m personally not aware of shipping anything actively “problematic” however other people’s ships and interest does not take away from the arguments made and any attempt to add them to the conversation is just an attempt to change the subject from your own lack of accountability <3

Yes you’re still a bad person