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Tumblr's capacity to have my dash completely closed off from the greater ecosystem is hysterical. There's a spones post that's a bit of a chuckle that I saw a few days ago. I've seen it since with similar amusing tags. Everyone is sort of vaguely enjoying the post, but it's nothing too special cos it's about a canon change and spones shippers are, by and large I think, not interested in what canon has going on
Suddenly I see this rant post referring back to it that's like guys it has gotten completely inappropriate on the spones post. Everyone is getting personal and mean. Here's a long explanation about what I think is going on, and they carry on. I broadly agree with the points this post makes but the whole time I'm reading it just like... What the fuck happened? I saw none of this? I just saw spones shippers being like lol yeah and moving on??
Hysterical. Good on you tumblr for keeping all of that away from me
#i know im vagueing which i dont do often#but honestly it was just all the same old shit#i havent gone back and investigated the original btw#im not interested#but like! this is so close to the stuff i would see on tumblr i just didnt cos there is no algorithm#just people only putting good things on my dash
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Does tumblr know what an algorithm is? I’ve been seeing a LOT of a fandom that I don’t even know what it is. I haven’t interacted or shown any interest in it at all. In fact I’ve said “not interested in this post” to every single one because there’s been SO many. I had hoped that it would catch on to why I’m not interested and stop showing it to me. Tumblr also decides that when it shows you something it shows you ALL of it and nothing else. You like landscapes? That’s all you’ll see until you refresh. You like dangonronpa? Yeah here you go I’ve got tons of that. Refresh. You like this super obscure fandom that you’ve shown 0 interest in whatsoever and in fact have told us you don’t want to see it on multiple occasions? HERE IT IS! WE HAVE SO MUCH OF IT TO SHOW YOU THAT EVEN IF YOU REFRESH YOU’LL ONLY SEE THIS UNTIL THE DAY YOU DIE!!!
#tumblr fix your shit#tumblr fix your algorithm please it’s very annoying#why does the algorithm suck so bad on this site??#if I say I’m not interested multiple posts that have the same hashtags then why do you keep showing them to me????
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Honestly, tiktok is real fucking boring. I don't care.
#I've not used this app for so long i actually get bored while scrolling#literally feeling my brain rotting away nuh uh I'll just continue to watch some edits but literally i don't give a shit#that's crazy considering i was scrolling a lot in 2021 i think??#then tumblr came along :P but i don't think that's the same it's not an algorithm#it's my mutuals choice what i get to see and they don't disappoint😌#johnny's silly rambles
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this is what/who my internet persona becomes when i go on tumblr
#ramble incoming;;#but not in the mental illness way:#i just mean i feel like i can express myself and interact with the stuff i like a lot more by having a online social media presence again#kind of like unearthing a part of myself from middle school who was initially all “social media crazy” but in the different sense of...#...trying to have as much clout as possible. but i feel like it's not like that here. i just interact with and reblog whatever i like#because it's not algorithm driven. and i just simply like posting random shit into the void where nobody's gonna see it#its simply nice to interact with people ur never going to meet online but also see the same people reblogging online#by having tumblr i've deleted instagram reddit and snapchat#relevant tags from images;;#kangel#ame#nso#needy streamer overload#needy girl overdose
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sometimes I’ll open the trending page to see what’s new and the second I lock eyes with that generic washed out tumblr genre of “raw line” posts I go a little insane. comedy doesn’t mean anything when everyone is trying to be funny.
#bagel talk time#it’s always like those STUPID philosophical posts that try and sound soooo cool#and like. Yeah I understand the tumblr mindset and we eat that shit up#But like#half of you saw that while u we’re on Twitter or pintrest and decided that’s what you needed#for people on here to like you#and you literally don’t#tumblr doesn’t have the same algorithm as other sites. You dont need to pretend to be something you aren’t.#all of my famous posts were shitty jokes with mutuals#and the stuff I TRIED to get picked up was ignored#just be genuine on social media you’ll feel better I prommy#anyways. I’m ranting like I’m investing but. erm. awkward#I could care less really. Post what you wanna post#just be kind to urself
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actually anyone from twitter if your gonna stay REBLOG POSTS !!!!!!! *especially* art/edits/fanfic !!
#i tihnk i might actually block any twitter ppl who like. dont do this#like ill be 'cringe' to scare the majority away and keep this site algorithm-less but if u can put up w that and are gonna stay#reblog shit !!!!!!! its how our site functions and if u dont like it go elsewere bc im not letting u make tumblr more like twitter#bc u cant deal w a site that doesnt spoonfeed u everything via algorithms#i feel like im being too mean kinda. i j wanna set like clear boundries like. i hate everyone whos actually bullying new users#like so many people are just cruel hearted and are using this an opportunity to be vile to others which is disgusting#but also like. this site is good bc its not like other social media sites and the fact that its so niche is part of that#the more people join the genuinely worse off the site will be and i dont want that#but at the same time i dont want to make anyone feel like theyre being singled out and attacked bc ive felt like that so often myself#so ik how awful it is#so like. i feel like the being 'cringe' is a good solution bc people who dont wanna stay due to cringe arent being hurt#but it still keeps tumblr tumblr not twitter 2.0. yk?#anyway time to carmjonker ig#flappy rambles
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you really can’t go online anywhere now without being forced to see like violent transphobia and homophobia
#yes even on tumblr. people here love being bigots with progressive language#anyways the internet has always been shit in this regard but it's really like inescapable right now#insta and twitter and youtube will all force 'suggested' content and half the time since im gay and interact with gay stuff#it will just straight up be homophobic or transphobic#cus according to the algorithm it's all the same. lol#grim
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you ever remember that the whole sp crew is full of tumblrinas and just <3
(@southparkdigital @stuckinfourthgrade)
#like most media doesn't have official tumblr accounts for the same reason there's not many celebrities on tumblr#there's no algorithm. shit place for random publicity.#but sp is on tumblr!#idk that makes my heart happy
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every time i talk to someone who’s been on tik tok i am more glad that i don’t have a tik tok
#same with twitter#'ya theres a bunch of drama on tik tok/twitter and someone had this rly stupid take-'#babygirl youre on tik tok/twitter theyre all stupid takes read/watch an essay if you want actual nuance#your algorithm purposely shows you the dumbest takes so you'd get the same brainrot youre complaining about bc thats how it makes money#step away from tik tok! you can just leave! if its shit hit da bricks!#and by bricks i mean tumblr bc while ppl here have piss on the poor reading comprehension#at least theres enough space to type out a full reply if you want to and everything is shown chronologically#like dont get me wrong ive also seen some absolutely AWFUL takes but thats only after i choose to say something first#and i chose to subject myself to awful takes by engaging with dumbasses#there is no algorithm that floods me with dumbass takes to make me mad#shut up pandora
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So funny to me, that here I am, writing about what tumblr community is, trying to encourage people to engage more and build their own micro-communities, and there tumblr goes and literally plans to shoot community in the face.
I've been here a long time, a very, very long time. And I left and I came back and I had many blogs. But if reblog chains are taken down...well, I don't know...what's the point really?
We're already reduced to faceless names on the dashboard, implying that only if you create content for the algorithm you deserve to have a face that your followers see. So the next thing is removing the very heart of what makes this place loveable, really?
Deeply disappointed. I do urge you to take a moment's time to enter the playstore and leave a 1 star review while specifying that those changes are the reason. At this point Staff (despite their invitations to) had stopped responding or caring for feedback/support tickets.
They will however care if the app rating drops significantly.
If you care for the future of this community based website, please consider doing this, otherwise, really, it's sayonara for the site as we know it.
Tumblr reblog chains are in danger.
It seems that the staff is actually going to go forward with their decision to remove reblog chains, where reblogs will basically work like regular comments on other websites.
This doesn't just make the site completely unusable, it removes the soul of the community that has managed to build up here over the years, and that I'm so happy to have recently joined.
It makes impossible the creation of great posts where many people build up a single thing, until it is a gem of expressed human creativity.
There will be no more world heritage posts, no more messing around with your mutuals, no posts worth remembering.
There will be no more Tumblr, and the Tikblr or TumbTube or whatever monstrosity is born from its corpse will soon die, as is probably the best. And then there will never be another place like this on the internet, no place anymore to run to, no more fun, no more community.
I recommend a simple course of action. When these changes get imposed upon us, stop using Tumblr. Get your mutuals' discords, your favourite artists' websites, and leave. If the Tumblr we have once known returns, we well too. If not, better let it die quickly than suffer a long and painful decline.
I beg you to reblog this, for the more people see it, the higher chanses are for this to work.
And add something, so we can show them what Tumblr is really for.
#meh#surprised at the apathy those things are met with#you should read some of the shit they are writing in their board#stuff like removing reblog chains#not allowing multiply reblogs to show on the same dash#adding forced algorithm that will not be allowed to be turned off#and other such gems#i love it here :)#tumblr issues#tumblr#tumblr update#long post
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Everytime I think about Tumblr culture dying I get this hollow feeling in my chest. People left their home site and traveled here, one of the only places with a site culture and identity, only to say "you're different and I don't like it. Change."
Blogs who don't post or reblog at all. People liking and liking and not reblogging. Blogs with no profile pictures. Asks never being sent. Not giving notes to "old" posts because it's creepy. Insisting that blocking someone is a form of cowardice and shameful somehow.
All of that shit, it's so frustrating because like it feels so destructive to one of the only fucking places left on the entire web that has an identity. You complained about your corporate lives and came to a place with "authentic culture" because it sounded interesting, and then refused to actually accept the local culture and are making it just as standardized as the rest.
It's internet gentrification in real time. What the fuck. You don't get to show up to Tumblr because it's weird and quirky and then suck that life out of it the way people did with cities like Brooklyn. You don't get to force us into the same boxes and social norms as twitter and tiktok and Instagram. That's fucked up.
Maybe it's just because I took an anthropology class but I believe internet cultures and beliefs and shit are worth preserving and learning about. I believe there's beauty in the ways that the websites we use affect our speech, in how people act on one site versus another, in the philosophy of users and in the ways the site cultivates that. And people want to make it all the same.
Fuck that, man. It breaks my heart. :(
#i made a textpost#tumblr#tumblr culture#same with changing site layout like what the fuck do you mean you want to remove the reblog system entirely or completely reorganize the#website layout until it's unrecognizable. WHAT THE FUCK#WHY ARE YOU TAGGING RANDOM UNRELATED SHIT???? FOR “THE ALGORITHM”???? I'm gonna throw up
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how to use tumblr:
- follow the gimmick blogs. thats literally it they reblog good shit
- I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH, reblog posts (dont just like them thats lame.)
- there is no algorithm.
- interact with people!!! SEND ASKS (SEND ME ASKS SEND ME ASKS)
- when blocking porn bots, mark them as spam instead of sexual content. i read somewhere on here that gets rid of them faster
- check trending every now and then to see whats going on. bonus points if spn is trending (its the only way i get news)
- get involved in fandom! thats the whole site
- make sure you are having fun :)
- hydrate
- who cares if you have followers? nobody. this is no mans land baby! live like its 2010 but 10 years later!
- if you’re really new, customise your profile. people might think ur a bot if u dont. u will get blocked
- nobody cares what you reblog. if you want to reblog 20 billion posts about loki then do it! its your blog!!!
- spread positive vibes. be nice. its not that hard.
- no ai.
- go read some yaoi nerd
- use tags, at least on original posts
- use gifs
- if you make a post and somebody reblogs your post and you like their reblog? you just liked your own post lol
- don’t like, don’t read/interact. same goes for ao3 and literally anything else. its not worth your time babe move on.
me n the gang on tumblr:
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Please watch this whole thing by the yelling guy:
"352 members of US House of Representatives voted to ban TikTok today. That’s 81%. I want you to think about the last time you heard 81% of our Congress agreeing on anything. Think about anything for the last four years... ...they see us talking to each other. They see us seeing the humanity in each other’s eyes. I don’t care if you got a red hat or a fucking septum piercing, I hear your complaints and I see the world you’re standing in. I’m not reading your tweet out of context, I’m listening to your voice. I’ve learned so much from this app over the last two years, and the biggest thing was to stop judging my fellow Americans like they are on some other fucking team…"
hey since it's coming up again: no it's not a good thing that the government wants to ban tiktok. no you should not be glad that the government might ban tiktok. no you should not respond to this with "good riddance" or "hurry up I hate that app". I should not have to explain this to you but the government banning a social media app is still a bad thing even if you don't like the UI or booktok or having to say "unalive" or how you think it's killing the very notion of attention spans. It's still bad. It's bad.
#and apart from that there's actually a lot of good things on there#non-tumblr users shit on tumblr to the same level that non-tiktok users shit on tiktok#you can't have an accurate view of an app if you've only been exposed to the worst stereotypes or worst parts of it#I know there are harmful things about it. like the ease of filming strangers etc.#but that's only one small part of it. in fact I don't think a video like that has even entered my algorithm#censorship#social media#us politics
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I spent the evening looking into this AI shit and made a wee informative post of the information I found and thought all artists would be interested and maybe help yall?
edit: forgot to mention Glaze and Nightshade to alter/disrupt AI from taking your work into their machines. You can use these and post and it will apparently mess up the AI and it wont take your content into it's machine!
edit: ArtStation is not AI free! So make sure to read that when signing up if you do! (this post is also on twt)
[Image descriptions: A series of infographics titled: “Opt Out AI: [Social Media] and what I found.” The title image shows a drawing of a person holding up a stack of papers where the first says, ‘Terms of Service’ and the rest have logos for various social media sites and are falling onto the floor. Long transcriptions follow.
Instagram/Meta (I have to assume Facebook).
Hard for all users to locate the “opt out” options. The option has been known to move locations.
You have to click the opt out link to submit a request to opt out of the AI scraping. *You have to submit screenshots of your work/face/content you posted to the app, is curretnly being used in AI. If you do not have this, they will deny you.
Users are saying after being rejected, are being “meta blocked”
People’s requests are being accepted but they still have doubts that their content won’t be taken anyways.
Twitter/X
As of August 2023, Twitter’s ToS update:
“Twitter has the right to use any content that users post on its platform to train its AI models, and that users grant Twitter a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to do so.”
There isn’t much to say. They’re doing the same thing Instagram is doing (to my understanding) and we can’t even opt out.
Tumblr
They also take your data and content and sell it to AI models.
But you’re in luck!
It is very simply to opt out (Wow. Thank Gods)
Opt out on Desktop: click on your blog > blog settings > scroll til you see visibility options and it’ll be the last option to toggle
Out out of Mobile: click your blog > scroll then click visibility > toggle opt out option
TikTok
I took time skim their ToS and under “How We Use Your Information” and towards the end of the long list: “To train and improve our technology, such as our machine learning models and algorithms.”
Regarding data collected; they will only not sell your data when “where restricted by applicable law”. That is not many countries. You can refuse/disable some cookies by going into settings > ads > turn off targeted ads.
I couldn’t find much in AI besides “our machine learning models” which I think is the same thing.
What to do?
In this age of the internet, it’s scary! But you have options and can pick which are best for you!
Accepting these platforms collection of not only your artwork, but your face! And not only your faces but the faces of those in your photos. Your friends and family. Some of those family members are children! Some of those faces are minors! I shudder to think what darker purposes those faces could be used for.
Opt out where you can! Be mindful and know the content you are posting is at risk of being loaded to AI if unable to opt out.
Fully delete (not archive) your content/accounts with these platforms. I know it takes up to 90 days for instagram to “delete” your information. And even keep it for “legal” purposes like legal prevention.
Use lesser known social media platforms! Some examples are; Signal, Mastodon, Diaspora, et. As well as art platforms: Artfol, Cara, ArtStation, etc.
The last drawing shows the same person as the title saying, ‘I am, by no means, a ToS autistic! So feel free to share any relatable information to these topics via reply or qrt!
I just wanted to share the information I found while searching for my own answers cause I’m sure people have the same questions as me.’ \End description] (thank you @a-captions-blog!)
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Excuse me?
#usually i do commend tumblr on their general personalised algorithms (not hard when you tag shit and the other person tags the same shit but#but this one's uhm. hello?
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God after that rant in the tags I really do miss old Tumblr. Like not just for the nsfw stuff but also like, I miss all of the people I used to follow who disappeared and I never found. I miss the stuff I can't find anymore because it got unfairly nuked during the ban, I miss not having ads, I miss not having weird layouts and random blogs pushed on me and Tumblr live giving me heart attacks every time I think I accidentally clicked one. Like for a long while this site was just left alone with the occasional update and different color of blue and we all just kinda existed(at least that's how my dash looked). Tumblr feels like walking into a house I used to live in but now someone else lives there and they painted the walls a different color they changed a bunch of things. Like it's still the same layout, there's still things that pop up sometimes that poke at the nostalgia but it just feels weird.
#change is good im not saying tumblr needs to stay the same forever#but i worry the influx of users is going to get in their heads and staff is going to think they need to add more things no one asked for#people like tumblr for being tumblr dont make it like Instagram or Twitter or tiktok#i hope they keep it unique and#i say this lightly at the moment because the new photo viewer is... disgusting#but easy to use and understand#i don't want algorithm doom scrolling like Twitter#i don't want a bunch of live video and influencers pushing shit on me#i don't want corpos rubbing their greedy hands at us#like yeah tumblr isn't perfect and lately especially theyve pushed some not good updates#but even now i still feel like they are a last bastion of old social media that hasnt been bastardized by capitalism#they opened the tumblr store because the site DOES need money to exist and i can understand that#i can respect that they didn't immediately jump to getting major corpos to advertise here and make blogs to bug us ever 3 swipes#i can respect that they do seem to be trying to cater to us and not make this an ad blasted experience#and i hope it stays that way#because legitimately we haven't had a social media blow up in popularity simce tiktok#and tiktok isnt for everyone i am not a quick video person its overstimulating and tiktok is uh#clickbaity in however you could explain that in how it works if that makes sense#if tumblr goes under like what next#i feel like the internet is literally seeing its downfall in real time#no one decent can make a decent website because its expensive and getting advertising is the best way to deal with that#except ads already engulf the whole internet people are getting sick of them and stupid algorithms#bah were getting into a whole different rant now#i hope the internet can recover because its really been an amazing thing for people to connect and help each other#AND i think the internet gained mass popularity very quickly and no one cared to learn internet courtesy and its failing us big time#i think tumblr has survived for so long because our unwritten rules that MOSTLY everyone agrees on and its kept the peace#and its not like we have tumblr police or anything we all just agree thats how its works and function like so#i havent seen that anywhere else
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