#this is not to say i need dr to go by survivor rules now bc dr is a talent competition which needs to be judged by pros
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vonlipvig Ā· 2 years ago
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in survivor if you say the game is rigged you will get side eyes most of the time (barring some specific situations) because at the end of the day it is the players themselves that vote for the winner, so the sole survivor always deserves it in one way or another.
but man, drag race? rigga morris central, girl, lmao.
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gayregis Ā· 5 years ago
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Oh yeah that reminds me of another question I've been meaning to ask (sorry to jump on you like this haha) but which vampire canon change in B&W annoys you the most? For me it's the whole 'even touching silver will harm a vampire' (when it's explained that Syanna figured out Dettlaff was a vampire because he wouldn't directly touch a silver candlestick). I just choose to ignore that detail bc I don't think it makes much sense haha
omg this is such a good ask im so excited to answer
first of all, i really agree with you, even when i hadnā€™t read the books fully i had read that one passage in lady of the lake where regis gestures with a silver fork at the banquet, and blood and wine tries to make it so like regis and dettlaff are the same ā€œkindā€ of vampire, so this obviously doesnā€™t make any sense, and since itā€™s just such a small detail i tried to ignore it, like, maybe dettlaff just wanted to keep the silver candlestick fingerprint-free, ever consider that, syanna? youā€™re gonna pawn something, you donā€™t want like a billion fingerprints mucking it all up... and then syanna thought this made him a vampire, when in reality he was a vampire but the candlestick had fuckall to do with it
but yeah i think iā€™m gonna do like a top 5 style: TOP 5 THINGS CDPR GOT WRONG ABOUT THE VAMPIRES. im not gonna do a countdown because im a very direct person and think its best to get the worst out of the way.
1. their society and relationship with humans.
the thing that upsets me the most that cdpr changed is how vampires exist on the continent. stuff like tesham mutna and the unseen elder breaks canon lore so hard it makes me physically upset.Ā 
this is a bad thing because not only is the trope ofĀ ā€œvampires control everything from the shadows as a secret society so they can feed on human bloodā€ incredibly boring and overdone (itā€™s a trope, so itā€™s something that the witcher should stand to invert since thatā€™s pretty much the purpose of the witcher), but it also has origins in antisemitism (the myth of the illuminati or ā€œreptilians/secret societies controlling the worldā€, blood libel), so itā€™s super gross! i donā€™t want the vampires to be that trope, thatā€™s completely unfair.
they already were something other than that trope, they already HAD their own society (or lack thereof) as part of the canon lore. maybe it is personal preference, but i think that their ā€œanti-societyā€ is super interesting. how does something like that function with no rules or figures of authority or customs? itā€™s incredibly different to the ways humans function in this universe, who are mostly bound around their nation, city/town/village, and home unit, and abide by strict custom and systems of authority. itā€™s really something to be explored from a lore perspective, there wasnā€™t a whole lot explained in canon (for good reason: see #2) so it has perfect potential to be elaborated upon in the adaptational spinoff that is the witcher games.
it makes them super boring and trope-y to have them all kowtow to One Figure Of Authority in the area. plus CDPR states that the reason toussaint is so perfect is that this secret society controls toussaint as an area to perfect blood, when toussaint literally existed as a fairy-tale duchy to be an OBSTACLE to geralt and his hansa in the saga. it was theĀ ā€œleave-your-questā€ test. think of the island of the lotus eaters from the odyssey. itā€™s a perfect place, thereā€™s no reason as to why it is perfect, it just is, and it keeps the company hostage there for months so they will get distracted and eventually forget what they came there for.Ā 
in canon as well, vampires do not seem to care much about humans. regis certainly does, but he is regis :). there was little conversation about how vampires view humans, rather about how humans view vampires and project their innermost fears and desires to them. further breaking some vampire tropes. in blood & wine. instead of that trope-flipping, we get...Ā ā€œvampires tortured humans out of curiosity and selfishness.ā€ what? why would they do this? there is not much to gain, and it would take a lot of cooperation and effort to get to this point, which leads me to ask, HOW could they do this? as regis says in bof, there were only about 1,200 vampires when they arrived on the continent, so they were completely and utterly outnumbered as they were likely scattered around. they wouldnā€™t be able to build a castle and re-engineer toussaint to fit their needs. i understand that he is massively biased, but i feel like regis calls these first vampires ā€œhapless survivorsā€ for a reason, and also since regis is regis, i do not feel like he would feel this way about them if they committed massive crimes against humanity.
tl;dr for this point: not only is it fucked up for no reason but to be gross/shocking to the audience, but it also removes their purpose as a metaphor, which is #2.
2. the removal of their purpose as a metaphor in the story.
originally, the vampires are not meant to be the focus of the witcher series or even a smaller part of the series at all. they are simply a metaphor for aspects of human society so that regis can have a backstory. the vampires are nothing more than a fictional means of exploring the effects of alcoholism, and a thought experiment as to what an authority-less, family-less, custom-less society would be like. the question ā€œwhat do youth do when they have no support and no guidance?ā€ already is one of the witcherā€™s major questions as a saga, the vampires and regisā€™s backstory serves to be another one of the stories within it that fits this theme. except we add more conditions to the thought experiment this time, likeĀ ā€œwhat if these youth never aged and were powerful enough to survive on their own?ā€ there would be no reason for them to ever change or grow out of their behavior. itā€™s quite interesting, because itā€™s meant to reflect upon human nature, the vampires are metaphorically humans. there is no reason for regis to even be a vampire, except that he needs to be able to survive death and learn from his mistakes. a human would have died had he hit rock bottom like regis did, but since regis wasnā€™t human and could rise from the grave, he had the chance at a new life. humans donā€™t get second chances. this is the point of the entire story being about vampires.
now, i understand that the purpose of the witcher games is to entertain, unlike the point of the witcher book series, which are like any other books and serve an authorā€™s message. so, it stands to reason that the vampires do not have to prove a strong point here, but they should retain their essential traits and serve as the metaphor which was already really interesting and deserves more explanation and thought. i think using a fictional lens to take a look at real-world issues can be helpful sometimes, when done respectfully and when still using creativity. even if itā€™s just to entertain, that doesnā€™t mean it should be brainless and throw all of the commentary out of the window.
the vampires as a subject for the game to focus on should really be a vessel for thought and critique. it should mean SOMETHING for them to be there, because they were originally a message and a metaphor.
but in blood & wine, they are incredibly shallow, only there to exist for the attention-getter of gore.
does it MEAN anything that dettlaff regenerated regis from his own flesh and blood? or does that just happen because we needed a convienient way to bring regis back and tie him to the antagonist? does it MEAN anything that dettlaff cuts off his own hand? or is that just because itā€™s cool and kinda gross. does it MEAN anything that the vampires attack beauclair? or is that just because there needed to be some violence and conflict.
there is no deeper meaning! itā€™s all just flashiness to shock the audience! itā€™s incredibly shallow and because it is shallow, it becomes boring and forgettable.
blood & wine focuses on details about the vampires that are gross, gorey or bloody, uncomfortable because of how nasty they are. and these elements have NO PURPOSE to the story other than to gross you out, like regis being regenerated, dettlaff skewering regis like a kebab, dettlaff cutting off his hand and that hand being handled by the bruxa, geralt, and regis, regis going crazy in a cage, syanna also getting skewered, etc. ... itā€™s this focus on the physical action that is happening on screen with little thought as to any deeper meaning that makes me tired and nauseous. why treat the vampires as savage animals?
as a mention in this topic, i am going to comment on how they deliberately changed the lore to ā€œmake childrensā€™ blood taste better than adultsā€™ blood,ā€ because that is mega-gross. why change it to focus on child endangerment? thatā€™s nasty! why make orianna feed on children when it was LITERALLY canon that the ā€œbestā€ blood was that of strong adults? if you want to make orianna morally grey, she could have owned any other kind of place to get blood from. see #2 for more discussion of this.
3. their focus on the conjunction of the spheres.
the vampires never had this obsession withĀ ā€œreturning home.ā€ i... have no idea where this comes from. remember how i just said that i appreciate a metaphor for real-life when it is done respectfully? CDPR gave us this awkward metaphor for the vampiresĀ ā€œwanting to go homeā€ because they have toĀ ā€œassimilateā€ in this new world, apparently every vampire ever misses their homeland. ... itā€™s the story of immigrants who didnā€™t have a choice to be born in The New Land, but they were anyways, and now they want to go home. and itā€™s the story of minority groups, who are overshadowed by the society they live in, but cannot be themselves in, because it would mean violence.Ā 
this is an incredibly awkward metaphor just because itā€™s not done well, but also CDPR literally just focused on how extremely violent the vampires are, and how they also control everything so they can use the humans they were thrown in with to their own fancies. this is... i didnā€™t know that the metaphors for fantasy racism in the witcher could get any worse than sapkowskiā€™s were.
also, thereā€™s some weird lore-breaking moments when regis says he misses the vampire homeworld or whatever, and i just am left staring at my laptop like. youā€™re only like, 4 centuries old, regis. the conjunction of the spheres occured more than 3 times your age in the past. plus the fact that regis in baptism of fire calls himself aĀ ā€œdescendant,ā€ itā€™s obvious that someone at cdpr just didnā€™t do their research when writing those lines.
4. their power level and exactly how powerful they are.Ā 
letā€™s take a moment to think about a grain of truth. the second story in the witcher books, it was written before sapkowski had a lot of the vampire lore down-pat. geralt says things likeĀ ā€œitā€™s silver, this blade is silverā€ andĀ ā€œan ordinary vampire couldnā€™t come out in the sun,ā€ which are incongruent with what we learn in baptism of fire about vampires. but nevertheless, thereā€™s a lot which is still accurate to the vampires, such as that VEREENA ABSOLUTELY KICKS GERALTā€™S ASS. geralt very nearly DIED in that fight, he was ABOUT to die, but nivellen saved him at the last split-second. geralt finds out that vereena is a bruxa, and he is alarmed, he shouts and then falls on his ass. he scrambles, heā€™s unprepared to deal with a foe THIS powerful. he manages to land his sword on her during the fight, but it barely harms her. she dodges incredibly, and swipes of his sword that shouldĀ have hit do not. she screams terribly, and geralt is in incredible, writhing pain. he uses his signs to help him, this is no normal fight with a normal foe. flash forward to in baptism of fire, when geralt meets another vampire, one that is considerably more powerful and unique than vereena was. dandelion asks geralt, if ... potentially... maybe... and geralt responds that he sincerely doubts that he could beat regis in a fight, and he really does not want to have to try.
geralt was BESTED by vampires in the books. he was as close as a witcher can get to being INTIMIDATED by their power. but what happens in blood & wine? thereā€™s like 8 bruxae and alpors ganging up on you and you can easily vanquish all of them with your silver sword and by knocking back maybe a glass of black blood and white raffardā€™s decoction. itā€™s fine, itā€™s easy to kill vampires. geralt doesnā€™t hesitate to fight dettlaff. he doesnā€™t worry, he doesnā€™t tell anyone that he sincerely doubts that he could beat him in a fight, that he doesnā€™t want to have to try. instead, itā€™s regis talking geralt out of the fight, trying to advocate for peace.Ā 
CDPR massively nerfed the vampires just to make them easier targets for the player. i think this is unfair to how the vampires were powerful threats to be reckoned with in the books, foes that even geralt, a witcher, did not want to face. not even out of geraltā€™s pacifism and apprehension to slay innocent and/or sentient beings, but out of not wanting to fucking hit that die button
i also understand that regis was supposedly less powerful now because he was just tired from being regenerated, but vampires like bruxae should have been able to turn into giant bats. thereā€™s nothing stopping them besides cdpr not wanting to code it in, just like how they didnā€™t want to code in bruxae or alpors wearing clothes (because vampires do wear clothes in canon).
5. their classification: adding new vampire species, distinguishing betweenĀ ā€œhigher vampiresā€ andĀ ā€œTRUE higher vampiresā€
just plain annoying to me. thereā€™s only seven types of vampires, as regis says in baptism of fire:Ā 
ā€œIn the case of higher vampires, never, I agree,ā€ Emiel Regis said softly. ā€œFrom what I know alpors, katakans, moolas, bruxas, and nosferats donā€™t mutilate their victims. On the other hand, fleders and ekimmas are pretty brutal with their victimā€™s remains.ā€
ā€œBravo,ā€ Geralt said, looking at him in genuine admiration.Ā ā€œYou didnā€™t leave out a single class of vampire, Nor did you mention any of the imaginary ones, which only exist in fairy-tales.ā€
so there are seven classes... five of which are higher vampires which can probably be classified by having sentient thought and not harming their victims, two of which are lesser vampires, which are quite violent with their victims and more animalistic for this reason.
also i am confused as to why CDPR made fleders the least likely to sustain flight, when their name iā€™m pretty certain is taken from fledermaus, the german word for bat, which just means flying mouse (feel free to correct me if iā€™m wrong, idk german), soĀ ā€œflederā€ should just meanĀ ā€œflutter,ā€ orĀ ā€œto fly.ā€Ā 
SO. itā€™s total bullshit to be likeĀ ā€œthereā€™s some higher vampires and then TRUE/REAL higher vampires, which cannot be killed...ā€ and it confuses everyone as to who is ACTUALLY a higher vampire and who is not, when the system we had before wasnā€™t broken at all!
BONUS. general changes to vampire powers
it annoys me how they turn into puffs of mist/smoke instead of vanishing, simply vanishing. no deeper reason why, it just bothers me because youā€™re not supposed to be able to see them at all, thatā€™s the point of turning invisible/incorporeal.
there was no mention or demonstration of how regis can hypnotize people, even though that was probably his most frequently used vampire power in the books asides from turning invisible/incorporeal. it showed that even though he was very powerful, he opted to use his passive powers and nonviolent routes of dealing with people.
i think it also makes the vampires way overpowered to be able to regenerate each other with each otherā€™s blood ... and it takes away from the finality of stygga... also them just flying and turning into bats whenever they want, as if regis didnā€™t say that he can only turn into a bat during a full moon. they made them overpowered and still made it super easy for geralt to kill them. alright
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atomicsurvivor-isleofskye Ā· 7 years ago
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Ep. 1 -Ā ā€œKarma is a Nasty Old Womanā€Ā  - JG
This season began the night of December 8th with a cast reveal, but the game was already afoot before that. Players had the opportunity to earn an extra trip to hunt for the idol by reading the rules. Heather, August, Aundra, JG, Rebecka, Tara, and ViĀ all took advantage of this opportunity!
The pre-merge buffs were also revealed, with the tribes called Iolaire and Saorsa.
And then the game began.
The first immunity challenge was posted, which you can check out here:
https://atomicsurvivor-isleofskye.tumblr.com/post/168340626526/tribal-immunity-1-isle-relay
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Introductions have been made, and everyone seems nice so far!
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Consider me the f*%# overwhelmed. Iā€™m trying to make personal connections but clearly that isnā€™t going too well. The challenge seems scary. Iā€™m dying. Someone help!
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I am SCARED. I have to establish all new relationships and Iā€™m pretty shook about it.
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Everyone seems so nice. I can deal with the challenges but I'm a bit scared. I don't want to mess up so early in the game.
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Man, I forgot how the start of orgs are so busy. Everyone seems pretty nice so far but I swear I won't learn their names until at least merge. If we have merge that is. After that I'll have to relearn. Hopefully we all make it to merge so I don't have to relearn anything. This challenge is pretty bad though. Slow internet will make this a pain
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Ok so I love my Tribe so far! The first immunity challenge came so fast but I'm glad that our team came together to figure out who's doing what. Also JG is coming in clutch with that advantage.
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So Iā€™m not sure how to feel about being on a tribe with Rebecka, she might be bitter, or she might be happy to have someone she knows. As for me if I canā€™t find anyone else ill try that connection, for now I just need to keep communicating.
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This game is so different from azores (shout to everyone from that game) the vibes are completely different. probably because im completely different but yah im really enjoying this tribe rn we have team work down and dont seem like a bad group of people. only thing is i signed up to do the logic puzzle thing and im not that smartĀ 
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omg this seems like a nice little tribe, its interesting be surrounded by new players to this like myself :') im not outta place, also it seems like being the oldest i hope everyone will be able to rely on me and my knowledge :D on the flip side with everyone being new it's sure to lead to some confusion in challenges hopefully i'll be able to give them some guidance and lead us to some wins :) also i fully expect to have bad luck doing the moors crap but yolo and may as well try right?Ā 
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So the LoIaire tribe decided to do a call but it turned into me, Stephen and JD talking about videogames fjksskskd. I hope people don't think we're an alliance already! Fingers crossed.
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my tribe is full of nerds
but i'm a fan of it
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So the em peeps - me, Tara and august - made an alliance right off the back. I'm already lying to them like I did my previous org. Who said I was gonna do random voting this time again? O well, time to play a wolf in sheep's clothing and hope not to get picked to shear. That would be terrible. It's really cold and this wool is really warm. We're basically ignoring the other chat since they're in a group call and geeking out about stuff. I don't know. I zoned out bc I didn't understand what they were saying. Hopefully I'll be able to start my plan of seducing them with pictures of my pets soon.
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I'm not sure if it will be an advantage or disadvantage but while searching the Moors, I found a twist that will be revealed at merge! Now I just have to do is survive until then... tune in nextime kids
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Cool tribe. Ā Trying to prove my crappy helpfulness in this collecting challenge since i'm godawful at puzzles. Also, tara went ahead an made a stupid fast f3 with me and infinity, and i told them my searches which sealed the deal. Also like JG and Ain, seem like pretty cool dudes, hoping to work with em'. This moor twist is really neat, but i also feel like everything already found already, but whatever.Ā 
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Tara is pretty cool. She's nice and I think we can work together
An alliance of Heather, Lukas, Madison, and Olivia calledĀ ā€œFuture Final 4ā€³ was created on Saorsa.
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We love early alliances YES WE DO.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cch6Q-ItmQE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Vto9iHwVY&t=2s hope this works haha
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kay so the tea is that Iā€™m aligning with Madison and Olivia. Olivia is super sweet and super trustworthy, so I am aiming to keep her close for awhile. Madison vibes with me but she seems very intelligent and very much so willing to stab me in the back. Iā€™ll keep an eye on her. I am hoping these two allies will be able to at least get me through the first few votes. Who knows? {note: Iā€™ll be submitting video confessionals soon after more happens}
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haven't talked to rebecka at all yet but love her video calling me late at night to show n complain about her broken tooth! an icon! can't wait to see more of her this season. hope her medical bills aren't too expensive
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So Luke and I have been skyping for 3 1/2 hours and I am so glad we have chosen each other! We have plans of who we each are going to talk to and who we want in our alliance. He is going to try and get close to Madison and AnnMarie and I am going to try and get close to Skip, and Dr. Mike Jake. Sarah at this point is a big question mark and Heather is in between and we'll keep her close enough but we both think that she will either be a good meat shield or a threat that we should take out pre merge. The other Jake we are both going to try to get close to as well. Hopefully we can have the majority no matter how it goes. Maddy told us that she is close with Rebecca on the other tribe which was probably a big mistake so we have to keep an eye out for that. She also told Luke about a secret map that she found at the moors! She lied when I asked if she found anything about it. Luke said there was a phrase that you could send to the hosts about this secret map so we both sent it in. Sarah, Heather, Luke, and I formed an alliance that they think will go all the way but I think Luke and I may have other plans. I trust Luke implicitly and I know he trusts me! Hopefully our plan works out.
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3 and a half hours later, Olivia and I are going strong on Skype planning and scheming for the whole game. I exposed Madison after learning she is also close with Jake (* ^w^*). We are definitely targeting Heather at some point, for she is the least trustworthy of them all. Iā€™m planning on trying to win over AnnaMarie and Madisonā€™s votes and Olivia is going to win over Jake (* ^w^*) and Trip. Hopefully by controlling two people each, we will have the majority in any potential vote. Needless to say- I will trust and advocate for Olivia until the end. I believe in our ability to take out the rest of our tribe and come merge time lay low. Sheā€™s writing a confessional right now as well, I hope itā€™s not about how sheā€™s going to eliminate me lmao.
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Also- Heather said in her intro video that she isn't afraid to backstab people and she kept going on about how much she loves acting! She also wouldn't really say anything when we talking about future plans so HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TRUST HER! I know I've already made two so this is the last one lol.
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Things seem to be going well, I have talked to everyone, excluding Rebecka, and get along well, so far there are few people talking strategy, but that suits me fine for now.
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I am so happy that the game finally started. The Saorsa tribe gives off really great vibes to me and I hope that is a good thing. I feel like I've made connections with almost everyone, but it is really nerve wracking because you never know who felt a connection with you. I feel I got pretty close to Madison, Lukas, Olivia and a few others. I just hope we can win Immunity so I dont have to send anybody home
I am very nervous for the competition. None of us really know Sarah and if she doesn't Ā show up, it's going to suck for the tribe. I don't want to be known as the weakest link for the tribe because my partner for the challenge didn't work.Ā 
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So I reveled I have a 10% advantage, hopefully that doesn't kill me off but oh well. So far so good. Tara and I have been bonding over BTS and I think I'm gonna try getting us to f2 since I like her the best out of everyone so far. Maybe she'll back stab me but that's okay too as long as she gets into f3 ^-^. I hope not though, that would be completely and utterly sad. (I do think she knows what I'm playing at since she watched my first org and I'm basically redoing that. She's trying to help me right now at least)
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So I went to the moors for the first time and Iā€™m really excited to be playing. This game going to be good and I know it going to have plenty of twist in it. Also Iā€™m really liking Tara form like day one we vibes and we started talking and sheā€™s pretty cool. Another also I feel like one of those older wise people because a lot of the peopel on my tribe are newbies and that makes me feel somewhat more safe in this game.Ā 
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So I misread my hidden advantage/disadvantage. What it actually says is that it will be revealed at a tribe swap and not merge. Also, Ive been mapping out all the locations and places explored in The Moors and concluded that Ain has the idol that was in the pit she fell in. For now I'm going to try and befriend her more so that we can be allies or have her reveal and flush an idol. My crossword chellenge is upcoming and I've been studying Survivor terminology so I don't flop!
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I really like Jake and Maddie. I really want to start having a good strong alliance with them later on in the game. I love everyone's dogs as well.
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Trip is sure he blew the logic puzzle. I feel bad for the kid and I definitely don't want to target him or anything over it and I want to make sure other people don't do that as well. I've been reading up battleship strategies online and about how to read people and poker tells and whatnot and that either makes me the biggest dumbass in the world to think that any of the advice might help or it makes me more prepared than my opponent. Can't tell at this point. He says he can't do the challenge today so we have to wait all the way until tomorrow. That'll either give me more time to be prepared or it'll give me just enough time to overthink and freak myself out. Either is likely at this point. I tried talking to AnnMarie some like Luke and I planned and she seemed pretty receptive until I suggested videochatting and she didn't respond but I'm not sure if she is doing her puzzle right now or if I just scared her off.
oh also Trip and I talked this morning which was great. Hopefully people don't talk to one another and say "oh hey has Olivia been talking to you" because if they do then they may think I'm playing too hard which at this point I'm probably over-doing it but I am just so excited
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So Tim has told me that he has an advantage from the moors that will be reveal at the tribe swap. I believe him because even if hes lying it means he wants me to trust him so we work together. Looking ahead I think Tim, Tara, and I would make a good team, of course weā€™d need more numbers but it all depends on the connections we make, peopleā€™s performance in the challenge, and how people act if we go to tribal.
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Found a special path in the moors, but even though Iā€™m not getting anything from it, Iā€™m getting a bunch of friends by telling other people. I told the alliance of me/infinity/ and Tara about it and Iā€™m pretty sure that was the mortar thatā€™s holding the house together. Also gave the info to Tim, hoping to work close with him, seems to be a pretty straightforward guy. He asked who else I gave the info to which I replied a solid ā€œsorry canā€™t sayā€ but I think itā€™ll go fine as long as that stuff doesnā€™t come up any longer.
Madison found a special path in the Moors, where she could receiveĀ a vote revealing advantage if she created an alliance with the two players she trusted the least, who she ranked as Jake S. and Sarah.
To do this, she opted to tell the tribe that she had to make an alliance withĀ ā€œrandomā€ players for a potential trial advantage. She succeeded, and was given a necklace which would reveal all votes cast at a tribal council, to be played until the final 7.
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Hopefully honesty is the best policy.Ā 
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Ok so its Day 2 and i completed my immunity challenge pretty fast in my opinion... but this is whats happening... August told me about the third path in Moors but he said that i wasn't the only one that knew about it. Later Tara got caught searching in The Neist and August said that he told Tara about it but Tara said that's not true... Im on to you August.. lets just wait for the immunity results...šŸ‘€
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So Tim has told me even more information about the Moors, and a secret location called the Neist that August found. This makes me trust him more and feel more comfortable working with him, but it also means I have to work on my connection with August if the three of us are going to work together TimHoly shit things are going downnn. So August and Tara are actually allies and Im the third. And originally, we were the only 3 that knew about the Neist. But I rushed and thought I was getting played so I told Stephen... EVERYTHING about the Neist including the locations already searched... I messed up big time! ( Or maybe not? šŸ‘€)
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omg so i hate august!!! first thing he messages me in the game is that we shouldn't tell ppl that we know eachother and we should try to seem distant because we know eachother from epicmafia n then he goes blabbing his mouth n telling ppl that he told me all this info! like where and when is that a smart thing to do august?? before i even knew he did that tim confronts me n is like hey do u know august, did august tell u this, and me trying to b a good friend to august is like yaa no sorry! but like ugh! august needs better communication bcos if the first thing he messages me is "HAHAHA SHHH SHHH WE DON'T KNOW EACHOTHER" i'm gonna expect that hes gonna try keep distant! then he goes blabbing some more n tells tim about drama that happened in our last org like hmm interesting... um but ya august is gonna b first boot! bye girl!Ā 
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So today in the Moor I came across a skeleton that ā€œhad a ring of bones unmarked from where a necklace once wasā€. This to me is a mess. Who on earth has already gone down this exact path and #snatched the necklace from me? Anyway, I messaged my main sis Olivia and devised a plan, then ran it by Madison as well. In the tribe chat, I openly said I have a ā€œgem that could boost the power of a necklace that once rested thereā€ which is complete BS. I am hoping someone takes the bait and messages me about having a necklace of such, and then I can expose them.Ā 
Also- Madison entrusted me with the knowledge that she has a power that can reveal everyoneā€™s votes at a certain tribal. I may just keep this to myself, because up until now all info Iā€™ve received in the game Iā€™ve shared.Ā 
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THE MOORS ARE CRAZY AND I KIKE THE RIDDLES AND THE HINTS AND IVE ONLY BEEN ONCE BUT I CANT WAIT TO GO TOMORROW. THE PUZZLE IS VERY HARD AND I STRUGGOED AT FIRST AND I HOPE the tribe isn't going to tribal council.
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Tara came to me freaking out. I had told both her and Tim about the special path and Tim was like ā€œ I bet theyā€™re alignedā€ so Tara made up a lie saying I didnā€™t tell her. I tried to solve the problem by just being outright honest, but Iā€™m still annoyed. Tim is far too paranoid to work with.Ā 
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ok so it seems as though as suspected some areas of our challenges were a bit rushed in decision and now i think it could be a big fat L but sometimes you win sometimes u lose, that said i hope the effort i put into my part shows im here to win, outside of that i've made more social connections with olivia and some others :) that open alliance announcement was a shock to me kinda made me laugh, looks like the 3 may be working together to get the moors solved so i'll have to keep on it
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I'm a comp flop and i hope that doesnt make me a target. I havent talked to a few people and I'm going to get on that.Ā 
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Ok so everyone sucked today at the challenges (I still love them) and it is kinda looking like I am our last hope. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Also it turns out the whole tribe is gonna watch?! what???!!! Feeling better every second out the firm alliance between Luke and I though. At the Moors I took a harness and hid it in a place where another harness already was so I am gonna try and be first when it comes to going to the Moors tomorrow. Luke found a skeleton without a necklace there meaning someone has the necklace. He told the tribe and AnnMarie just told him privately she had to tell him something about the moors AND NEVER RESPONDED. The second (not Canadian) Jake seemed like he might pull through and be an active participant but its not looking too likely. Sarah is still inactive so unless the other tribe sucked more than us she will probably go home Monday. Also I am supposed to talk to the Canadian Jake but idk how to talk to that guy! and trip too! Like I never know what to say but I am going to keep trying because Luke is making good progress with Maddi and with AnnMarie. We both gotta be careful and include Heather because if not that could be dangerous.Ā 
JUST GOT SOME MAJOR TEA FROM CANADIAN JAKE WOOOHOOO!!! I was asking him about Canada and he told me that if I take the harness back to camp it leads to more paths. I told him this made me trust him a lot. Not exactly true but not false either. He could be playing me but hopefully this is securing a bond.
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Hi Iā€™m Aundra and Iā€™m stupid af. I picked to do the logic challenge knowing Iā€™m stupid af. then announced to the tribe that Iā€™m thinking about quiting being stipid af. now Iā€™m stuck looking stupid af
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KvsH2lWN3Y
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4 hours and 20 min later I finally finish my part of the challenge Iā€™d like to thank Ali for helping me through when I was about to quit and Kermit Iā€™d also like to say if we lose it wonā€™t be my fault fully because people have gotten 10% disadvantages on the team so our odds are low but the grave Iā€™ve dug for my self is bigger than the possible 20% I think we have agonist usĀ 
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LukasJust a lil update for the girls. Madison told me about her magnifying glass, but apparently she hasnā€™t told anyone else. Iā€™m going to keep this to myself from Olivia otherwise I will have nothing to keep secret for myself, and that just seems wrong. I staged a text conversation with my boyfriend and sent it to Heather about her dog and how itā€™s totally the next big meme. Heather ate it up as expected, and now I feel like I have an in with her. Aside from my core 4 alliance, I really donā€™t know where anyone elseā€™s head is at and they all are lackluster communicators.Ā 
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Ok so Maddi, Heather, and myself had about an hour long chat (mostly) about the game tonight. We agreed that the four of us (us 3 + Luke) should definitely stick together and although itā€™s definitely possible, itā€™s probably unlikely that the other four players have their own alliance. My fears about heather were mostly assuaged because when Maddi left she voiced her concerns about Maddi and her connections to the other side and she revealed to me that she trusts me the most (which is obviously great). Now I have two people that trust me the most out of anyone. (Only one I feel the same about) As long as Iā€™m in this game I wonā€™t forget heatherā€™s intro video and her statement about how she is more than willing to backstab. The relationship between trip and I seems to be going well (albeit a little slow) while my relationship with AnnMarie is kind of nonexistent but itā€™s only been two days. I donā€™t trust Jake S. At all. He said he hadnā€™t been to the moors yet?? Fishy to me. The battleship showdown is tomorrow. Survivor gods be kind, let it go well.Ā 
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The idol is already out there on day THREE. Im assuming either Vi or August has it but I'm leaning towards August.. If we lose immunity then I may have to spark up the game and vote out the idol holder either that or have thr idol work in my favor. I'm on to you August and Vi and your friend Ain too! You may have had us do your dirty work of finding the idol but I'll get the last laugh. Know That. StephenSo Tim thinks someone has found the idol based on what he found in the moors and Iā€™m inclined to agree, but it worries me how fast things are moving, im hoping we win immunity so theres time for things to settle down and for people to relax. At the same time chaos is a good way to find out who you can trust.
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https://youtu.be/RSSBtWKMfiU
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I'd be very very surprised if we win immunity, especially since our tribe has members with a 5% and 10% disadvantage, and some members of our tribe who have yet to complete their challenge or never will? InfiniVi has a 10% advantage so maybe that will help balance it all out. Regardless, I think I'm in a safe spot on my tribe and I am confident in my challenge time and Im hope Stephen and JG does well so cheers to that??Ā 
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I didn't notice a small wording difference which Ā changes my time in logic puzzle from very low to over 3 hours and 40 minutes. I am worried if we lose this challenge I could be sent home, but hopefully if so Sarah is thrown under the bus. I mean they haven't even been here! Everybody else is so nice and cool, I love my tribe!
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Well I had a very nice conversation with Vi and Tara (seperately) and August your game is donezo. We know about your idol/advantage and you lost your potential allies' trust in the process. If only you'd kept Neist point a secret. Fear not, we can still use you as a number and you can be one of the many strings I pull as I become Sole Survivor. Ciao!
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Hour and a half before battleship. The tribe seems excited to cheer me on. They all seem to think it rests solely on me. But if they all lost then weā€™re already fated to go to tribal, no? Irregardless, it would be a good moral victory. Iā€™m trying to decide how to come across when I go head to head with the other tribe. Strategic? If so he may figure out that my ship placement strategy wasnā€™t just random. Wholesome and nonthreatening? It may help out now but they may think Iā€™m not quite smart should I make it to the merge. Maybe thatā€™s a good thing idk. Iā€™m only certain of one thing however and that is that Iā€™m definitely overthinking this. I watched my opponentā€™s intro video. He is into Star Wars and humanitarianism. Maybe I can pander to that so he doesnā€™t feel threatened. Battleship is mostly a game of luck but anything I can do that might be an advantage is worth it.
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So so so, so much has happened I don't know where to start. The alliance between Tara, August and I basically is down to Tara and I and August as the third wheeler. He has betrayed our trust and so we're going to pretend to be nice to him. Also there is a 85% chance of him having the idol. Tim accused me of having it but jokes on him, I would have screamed it in the main chat since it's rare for me to get lucky with anything. Anyways I think I'm gonna go place some tension between a couple people and see how that blows up in my face. I know it will bc that's my luck also
I got more updates on the drama. Tim is a bas-cough- sneaky little no legged lizard. Can't believe he told Tara to go to the cauldron even tho Ain told him that it held a disadvantage right before that. Hehehe the boys - August, Tim and Stephen - are gonna regret it the moment the girls line up too.
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Olivia is a QUEEN AND WON A SECTION FOR US IN THE RELAY. SLAY ME
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Im not sur if im allowed to curse but where in the world are these ships!!! Hello????
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My fav player won their challenge I am so proud of her. She will win first for sure calling it now.
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JG seems like a fun guy, but we havent talked much. In his challenge he kept changing his pattern, which Iā€™m not sure was a good idea, but that might just be hindsight.
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https://youtu.be/nk5jBYqnYwI
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We are going to lose because I suck at puzzlesĀ 
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HOLY SHITBALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just won the battleship challenge and I feel OH so relieved. So much has happened today I hope I don't forget to write it here. Ok so I was included into the one viewing lounge which was cool as shit but I didn't know anyone but hopefully I can be included in this community going forward because everyone seems so cool. Trip and Canada jake both told me their moor experience which hopefully shows trust. And after I won the challenge Trip said I should be captain. It was sweet, but hopefully no one takes that to mean I am the leader because I sure as shit do not want that. Even though I feel like I am in a bit of a power position with Luke right now, I do not want anyone else to know and I certainly don't want people to think I am the captain because those people always get targeted (see: ben this current tv season). Apparently I mentioned that Luke was the only one that knew the coordinates for battleship and when Luke told me I did that I about shit myself because we don't want people finding out how close we are. Hopefully none of the players caught on. Luke told me that Heather told him that she got a 10% advantage in the first individual immunity challenge, and she didn't tell me that until she told the fab four collectively which concerns me because yesterday she told me she trusts me the most. I started individually messaging her so hopefully I can keep that trust. We get the tribal results tonight and hopefully we won so we can keep the Sarah buffer going forward. People were calling me an icon today and I don't really agree but it made me like so happy I could do something for the tribe and everyone was so nice after I won like I was so emotional reading the messages. I know this is a game but I like everyone so much and I'm so grateful I got this tribe. oh also Jake S. hasn't been responding (like usual) and I am just overall concerned about him and whether or not he has an idol. Besides that, I am just so happy with how today played out. Sorry for the long ass confessional lol.
Oh and also I love Heather but with the individual messaging I wasn't sure how to start it so I mentioned the walking dead, her favorite show, which I have literally never seen except for when people reblog stuff about it on my tumblr. I literally only had my tumblr knowledge to go on to carry that convo but it seemed to work and she seemed to buy it. I feel bad lying but like I need to talk to her more and I needed an ice breaker lol.
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Iā€™m currently trying to secure my alliance with Madison. Whilst I donā€™t 100% trust her and would like to see her gone before the merge, I want her to think she is my #1. To do this, Iā€™m asking her if I should branch out to Annamarie. She agreed, so I made a group chat with them. This is not so much to controlĀ Annamarie but more to let Madison think Iā€™m hopeless without having her in my convos. Hopefully Iā€™m not coming on too strong.Ā 
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holy shit that was the worst puzzle i've ever had the misfortune of trying to piece together im so happy its over
Iolaire won the first immunity challenge, sending Saorsa to tribal council
https://atomicsurvivor-isleofskye.tumblr.com/post/168413432616/tribal-immunity-1-results
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Im literally shakingggg. We won the first immunity so no first boots from our tribe! I think we were lucky that someone from the other tribe got a strike, otherwise, im uncertain how things would have ended up. There was a plan to blindside August and the idol but we'll have to put it on hold!
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So glad we won, there has been a little drama and while I was confident I wouldn't be going home I'm glad we get time to settle down and talk more. I want to make sure I can get Tara, JG, and Rebecka on side, if we can flush or blindside August's idol I'll feel mch better.
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omg, close ass challenge it seems like this was alot closer than i anticapated, i expected a loss in the logic but holy we almost wonf if not for sarah thats crazy, but i mean its hard to win with an afk, at least its an easy vote, another loss may not result in so, so we gotta get that motivation and grab the bull by the horns and win !!!
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I'm so proud of Trip and Olivia for winning but I am also soooo pissed. If Sarah would have tried I truly think we would have had a chance.
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Honestly I'm kinda pissed that Sarah never submitted cause we had it in the bag. I failed pretty hard with the puzzle, but I'm hoping to do better next time. I found a freaking path in the moors, no advantage, no hint. I'm trying to get around, trying to talk to everyone, especially madison, lucas, and olivia. I'm very comfortable with them and I feel that we'd be a good alliance once the game gets SERIOUS. I got drafted twice and I'm gonna cry I'm so happy
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DAMNNN we have to go to tribal. Whilst I am sad about this, it won't be too sad seeing Sarah go (hopefully). After seeing the draft results as well, I think I am going to make Madison my #1 considering how liked she is by the VL. She must be a good person. Also, since she has history of the game- it would make sense to align with her over Olivia.
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So Rebecka has finally communicated, was worried she had a grudge from Athena, but I know she's going through some things, hopefully she is better now. I do want to work with her, but I would be worried that she is more inclined to work against me than with me, hopefully I can work with her, she's a loyal person and I can use that.
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Aye itā€™s my first confessional!! Iā€™ve kinda been laying low from the start cuz Iā€™ve been very busy in real life but I think everyone on my tribe is cool! I think this rounds tribal should be easy considering we have a 100% inactive but in survivor who knows whatā€™ll happen.. Iā€™m also not aligned with anyone at this point. Iā€™m just chillin. But itā€™s a bummer we lost so hopefully someone reaches out to me soon!Ā 
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Jake just told me we are meant to be allies. I asked for his advise and he said he is there to help me, which is good for any future plans. I'm not sure if Heather trusts me the most anymore, but I know she thinks I'm right. I still have Luke 100% and hopefully tomorrow I can secure Trip more. Tomorrow is an easy vote day and Luke and I are going to use this opportunity to lay low and just trust build. Hopefully all goes to plan. Should we lose another immunity, we have a tentative plan in place. But hopefully, we won't get there.
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I cant believe I somehow won my challenge even though I made a horribly dumb mistake! If my original assumption was right since we both won me and Olivia should have nothing to worry about. We all know who is going this tribal though. It would surprise me if it was not unanimous.
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Iā€™m glad Iā€™m not going to be the first boot! A personal achievement. MadisonIā€™m super concerned about the advantage possibilities NOT GONNA LIE. And Jake S is sketchy. And Trip is playing hard wtf? Also Iā€™m concerned that i was DRAFTED SO MUCH WTF. Like Iā€™m happy but also Iā€™m v concerned that people think Iā€™m way more of a threat than I am.Ā 
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Honestly from yesterday to rn I read every single message over 3 times and Ā I still don't understand anything that people messaged me. I had to write this over 3 times since I'm so dizzy and brain dead from not sleeping and finals. I feel absolutely nothing atm and so Ā I can't tell if people are trying to screw me over or not. O well. I'm not that sad that we won, I don't know the other tribe so whatever.
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Wow. So tribal's tonight and I'm mega excited. I can't wait to see how it goes and what question the judges ask and see who people voted for. I feel that this is an easy vote, but it's impossible to know what everyone is thinking. I'm excited for the next round and see what challenges the judges come up with. Overall, this first round has been incredible, especially since this is my first time playing, and I'm ecstatic to see what's next.
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Well tribal is not too far away. I voted for Sarah, I'm hoping and guessing everyone else did too. Canada Jake's nickname for me is Moose, how freaking adorable is that. I love that guy. Today was supposed to be just a simple trust building day and then Trip blew that up lmao. I wonder if I tell Canada Jake that Trip excluded him if he would maybe get on board with what we need him to. I'm finding myself thinking way too far in advance when I just need to focus on what is happening now. With every move I imagine 1,000,000 different repercussions and how it could lead to me getting voted out. I want to go far so badly but I worry I won't make it past episode two. Just gotta take it one step at a time I guess.
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This is probably my 100th confessional of the season (It's day 4), but Im totally enjoying my day off! We don't have to worry about going to tribal and losing a member of our team! What worries me though is that once the other tribe eliminates their inactive player, we'll be doomed at the next immunity.
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Dang k9trip is salty at the moment. Rushing tribal to the extreme.
An alliance of Heather, Lukas, Madison, and Olivia calledĀ ā€œFuture Final 4ā€³ was created on Saorsa.
An alliance of Vi, Tara, and August was created on Iolaire.
An alliance calledĀ ā€œSecret Tribe F5ā€³ between Heather, Trip, Lukas, and Olivia was created on Saorsa.
An all-girls alliance between Heather, AnnMarie, and Olivia was created on Saorsa.
At tribal council, Sarah was eliminated in a unanimous vote:
https://atomicsurvivor-isleofskye.tumblr.com/post/168443384851/tribal-council-1-saorsa
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spockandawe Ā· 8 years ago
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So youā€™ve heard Spock is the actual literal devil
Have you heard that Iā€™m a terrible person? A plagiarist? Have you been told that Iā€™m only into transformers at all because I wanted to make this one random guy unhappy? If youā€™ve been told that, youā€™ve probably also been told that a year and a half later, Iā€™m still making fanworks just to upset him. You might have even heard that shhhh, donā€™t disagree with Spock on anything, or theyā€™ll hunt you down and harass you.
Right, okay. This is one hell of a saga that I will attempt to tell in as compressed a form as possible. Itā€™s a lot. Years ago, back in HS, there was this one guy who policed the hell out of one of the character tags. Iā€™m going to call him C. Heā€™d pressure people not to make the content they were making, decry the hateful people reading with a malicious eye who thought the character would ever do anything bad (the character was a creep). And because being obnoxious wasnā€™t bad enough, if you didnā€™t cave to his demands, he just might do things like start whisper campaigns about how you support rape, casually out you as a survivor, cute little things like that.
This is not a story about that guy.
This is a story about Cā€™s one-time attack dog, eventual boyfriend, and current ex. Weā€™ll go ahead and call him R. Iā€™ve tried real hard to avoid namedropping on my blog before, but could people find him from this? Probably. Have I stopped caring? Absolutely.
TL;DR, unsubstantiated accusations of serial harassment are a little questionable when theyā€™re coming from someone with a years-long, extensively documented history of serial harassment and a personal grudge against me.
Cut for length.
Edit 7/2/2017: R has posted that he regrets making these posts about me, and admits that he said things that were out of line. And heā€™s stated that heā€™s going to try to do better in the future. I genuinely, truly appreciate that. Iā€™m leaving this post up because there have been lies about me floating around for a while and I reserve the right to defend myself, but I really do appreciate that.
Oh balls, none of this makes sense without backstory (Iā€™m so sorry)
If you think I suck or my work sucks, thatā€™s fine! You do you, go enjoy the things that make you happy.
If you think Iā€™m the devil because this one guy told you about my evil, evil past and all my terrible misdeeds, without anything at all to back up his words? You can ask me. I donā€™t bite, and oh lordy do I have receipts.
To be clear, R is totally allowed to hate me! I don't care. I don't care if he hates my writing, I don't care if he hates me as a person. But now he's escalated to spreading lies about me, and people are believing him, and Iā€™m not enough of a doormat to let that just stand.
And Iā€™m going to cheat a little. Hereā€™s a memo with the cliffs notes version (not the original memo, I made a copy with Cā€™s urls cropped out since he hasnā€™t attacked anyone in a long while). Warning, digging any distance into this turns up violent fantasies, violent sexual fantasies, creepy interactions with a minor, and lots more, itā€™s all really, really unpleasant. Evidence is thoroughly documented, please tread with care.
You would not believe how truncated that is compared to the reality.
Now, the worst of this came via C. Who has calmed down a lot these days, and Iā€™m really happy thatā€™s the case. Good for him. I hope his life continues in a direction where he doesnā€™t find it necessary to do this stuff.
Lucky for me, R was standing by to pick up the slack.
It doesnā€™t show up as much in the memo, which is mostly C-focused, but R was standing by C this whole time, defending his right to spread around private information about someoneā€™s abuse history, sending nasty messages on the other guyā€™s behalf, and much,much more. itā€™s long, itā€™s awful, itā€™s unpleasant. R personally hurt people in some significant ways that I donā€™t want to link directly, for their sake. He expressed deep remorse a few times, but it never stuck.
Hereā€™s my personal favorite quote from R. Heā€™s speaking to the CSA survivor that C casually outed (with information given to him in confidence), and who theyā€™d been running a long, long whisper campaign against, and who was understandably a bit upset over the whole thing:
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oh go wank to your own tears [name]
#and get your sympathizers to help #nasty fucking people #maybe if you cry enough youll be able to go into second grade in the fall #ooc
Said, again, to a CSA survivor they outed and harassed. That person is such a sweetheart, and this screencap still infuriates me.
The first time I saw C pick a fight he had lots of friends. Shockingly, as he did things like loudly fantasize about how he wants to mutilate people and rant about how autistic people should die, those friends mostly drifted away. I know one person had a friend even help them stage a faux relationship-ending fight, so they could be sure theyā€™d be able to completely cut and run from C. R stuck with him, though. Eventually they even started dating.
ā€˜Spock followed R into transformers to harass him and stalks his favorite characters just to harass him moreā€™
Then, transformers. Here, let me show you the first post (by R) that ever brought MTMTE to my attention. I spent years being aggressively uninterested in transformers, but this caught my eye
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and honestly, ppl (adults too!!!) shipping someone who has the mentality of a child and is quite glaringly lacking a world of experiences and general understanding of things outside of ā€˜goodā€™ and ā€˜badā€™, with an adult, is just. very alarming and gross to me.
and honestly, the fact that there is a large portion of people who want him to become romantically (and sexually!!!) involved with either one of two fucking adults in canon, and hell, esp those defending it with ā€˜hes an adult too tho!!ā€™ is really gross.
you can pretend all you want that hes ā€˜an adultā€™ because his body is, but theres no way jro didnt intent to code him as a child. stop fetishizing children lmao,
#pedophilia -/-/- #cygate -/-/- #if someone comes at me screaming ā€˜rule 38ā€² im gonna shove them in a locker
I didnā€™t know transformers, but I was pretty sure this was some straight-up bullshit.
(but donā€™t worry, he ships it now! no hypocrisy here, no sir)
Itā€™s ā€œreally grossā€ to ship this adult with other adults. Mm. Given the reasonableness of the claims these guys have made in the past, and given their extensive history of harassing people over those claims, I hopped to the wiki to check it out. I read a bit about the comic and the plot, and all of it sounded so fascinating that I just had to give the comic a try.
Reader, I married it.
I shotgunned MTMTE 1-47 in two days, started doing fanworks right out of the gate, and Iā€™ve never looked back. A lot of my art was cygate, because come on, the comic wants you to ship it so bad, my first readthrough ended with issue 47, and that was the first ship Iā€™d ever read about for the series, even before I dove in.
Now, both these characters punch me right in the heart, in some painfully personal ways. Tailgateā€™s the more relevant one here, but I donā€™t even know if I could do justice to the emotions both of them give me.
Iā€™m still not a fan of how Rā€™s lies about me have edged me into needing to say this in public, but okay. Iā€™m developmentally delayed. Itā€™s been a rough ride. And Tailgate hits me in some of those spots so hard it just takes my breath away. Iā€™ve got a lot of baggage over not being a real adult, and not in the funny oh-no-how-do-taxes-work way, more like an extended months-long meltdown my first year of college because I can tell that my friends are years ahead of me and I donā€™t know how to even start catching up, and just existing, as myself, is humiliating.
All of my relationship milestones have come painfully, painfully late. The whole thing is still one awful emotional bruise. I hate it, and I hate how easy it is to convince myself that yeah, of course you donā€™t actually deserve to be treated as an adult and you never will. Just look at you. So then it is unbelievably important to me that I can see someone someone who is like me, being treated as a legitimate adult, and being able to have an adult relationship.
Hearing that shipping someone like me is essentially pedophilia is the opposite of that.
But he ships it now, so everything is fine :)
Yeah, you know what? Another fucking receipt.
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uGHGH im so tired of all the rabid cy// /gat// //e fans like even cyā€™s giving em a look like ā€˜leave my fucking child aloneā€™
#i just #im hoping jro has some taste tho and doesnt make an adult date a child #and if not im hoping the outcome blows over soon bc im so tired of seeing people defend pedophilia #pedophilia -/-/-
Parental.
This continued even after JRO explicitly confirmed Tailgate was an adult.
Bonus ableism: shipping Whirl (another character who hits me way too hard) isnā€™t okay either. Even though there isnā€™t the excuse of ā€˜but he only lived three years--ā€™ No, at that point, youā€™re saying that an adult who fails to adult correctly does not count, and isnā€™t allowed to have romantic relationships. It makes my skin crawl, and it is an issue which is very personally and directly important to me.
So some of my cygate was porn from the start (itā€™s what I write. itā€™s what I draw.), and some of the porn was made because I was upset over discourse that says someone like me needs to be treated as a child. I played with cywhirlgate too, because omg how could I not, and some of that was porn as well. It was ages ago, so I donā€™t remember the details for every little thing I made. But when I saw someone saying that Cyclonus and Tailgate had a parental relationship, Iā€™m sure that helped nudge me in that direction. Maybe R thinks I should have channeled my emotions by starting a whisper campaign to exclude him from fandom spaces. But I think my way of working through bad emotions might have been a little healthier than that.
So when R accuses me of making cygate content to spite him? Half true. Just true enough to be real fucking dishonest. R spent a nice long time insisting that cygate was pedophilia. I channeled my outrage over that ableism into fan creations.
I didnā€™t attack him. I talked about him some ā€“ on a private forum, with people whoā€™d already been aware of him and had been watching him and C hurt people for years, plural. I havenā€™t told people on tumblr any real details about him until now. And R still is happy to talk about how it was his toxic exā€™s right to post torture/rape/murder porn vent fic about actual people.
Tell me, how exactly am I in the wrong?
Bonus pettiness: I posted some cywhirlgate porn. The next day, R vaguely whined about robot pedophilia and turned around and wrote some obviously-a-response cywhirlgate. Where it was super platonic and the text explicitly said it was super platonic and it even had platonic thigh nuzzling. With two ā€œchildrenā€ involved. Of course I turned around and wrote more fic of my own, because jesus h christ that made my skin crawl. You want to play this game? I guarantee I can write faster than you, letā€™s do this. (he did not follow through on that)
Iā€™d also like to say that forgetting inconvenient little details like this is a thing with R. Hard to call me terrible for writing spitefic when you write it yourself.
A history of Spockā€™s personal involvement
Letā€™s backtrack a tiny bit. You may notice I am up to my elbows in this nonsense for no clear reason.
I was friends with some of the people C was taking shots at, and I was unfortunate enough to believe his original smear campaign about that one artist (Iā€™m still ashamed about that). I cared about a number of people C was trying to hurt. I think one or two fanworks of mine upset him, but he already had loads of targets. I kept tabs on him and R, because anxiety is the gift that just keeps giving.
Eventually, C fantasized about wanting to put my former datemateā€™s hand through a meat grinder (ey wrote a fic that portrayed his fave in a negative light). And R defended his right to do that.
The person he posted about is still feeling the effects of that incident. Iā€™m still feeling the effects of that. And it wasnā€™t even directed at me, just someone I care deeply about.
R has recently posted that ā€˜oh my goodness, C sure was awful, remember when he posted this thing about a meat grinder and how unreasonable it was?ā€™ Thanks buddy, glad you noticed, now just go ahead and keep on blaming me for the aftereffects of what your boyfriend did, and what you defended.
After that, it was months before I could properly look away from either of their blogs.
C posted extensively about trying to track down the street address of his ~enemies~ (including the one whose genitals he fantasized about mutilating). He posted about how autistics should die. He had skype chats about wanting to do amateur brain surgery on people. All while posting very often about finding real addresses.
Yeah, itā€™s more than a year later, and every so often I get a stab of anxiety and have to head off to double check on what these two are up to.
I will repeat that C has been pretty chill lately. Heā€™s got a career heā€™s aiming for. Good for him, go find success, please donā€™t slip back into being an internet bully. Itā€™s sad and upsetting to see R echoing some of the early patterns of his ex, and itā€™s so strange to see me labeled as his own personal enemy.
ā€˜Spock will totally come harass you tooā€™ and/or various accusations of ableism
So there are some things I did in the mix in this history that I regret. Occasionally, I went out and flipped through the blogs of C and Rā€™s friends, seeing if maybe theyā€™d had said something in their notes, did they have any vagueblogs C liked, did they post aboutā€” It got unreasonable. I admit that. Anxiety was at the root of it, but it absolutely got unreasonable. And also it is a massive time sink, and I canā€™t remember the last time I bothered with it. I enjoy life much more when anxiety and paranoia issues donā€™t have their claws in me. This hasnā€™t been an issue in a very long time.
I came down hard on some of the kinfeels and system stuff too, which I do walk back a bit. Cā€™s approach wasā€¦ hahaha. It was something. And he was my intro to the kin and system paradigms. I saw R talking about Cā€™s approach being unreasonable too, pretty recently. So that was an unfortunate bit of poison in how I processed the next people I met who did that sort of thing. I donā€™t do kin stuff, but I get it. And DID may not strictly apply to all systems, by the formal diagnostic criteria, but Iā€™ve learned there are plenty of other dissociative disorders out there. And I met people who were multiples and who did kin things that werenā€™t these two guys. Which helped a LOT.
But the big one, hmmm. C wrote a fic. The idea was interesting, but the execution frustrated me. Everyone but the main lead felt soā€¦ flat. Everyone was constantly cruel to the main, for no reason. I saw a way to riff on the original text while staying true to its shape, and writing my bad emotions out is also a major, major thing I do to cope. Now, my big thing is that I should have asked before I remixed. Iā€™d been thinking in terms of, yā€™know, transformative fanworks. Even with authors like Anne McCaffrey and Anne Rice, who fought against fandom, people have still felt that it should be allowed, even against their wishes. So I wrote the remix. I gave full credit on ao3 in the ā€˜inspired byā€™ box, linked to the original with positive words, the whole shebang.
The guy was still furious, andā€¦ thatā€™s fair. I thought Iā€™d written a thing on self-sabotage that was pretty sympathetic and compelling, and the self-sabotage actually drew a lot on my own personal history. But I gave the main flaws he strongly disagreed with, and I didnā€™t ask for permission. I get why he was/is angry over it.
Iā€™ve been a fixture on their shitlists ever since :P
Itā€™s remarkable, even while R posts now about ā€˜oh my god, remember how C wrote the creepiest things?ā€™, Iā€™m still the one whoļæ½ļæ½ļæ½s the the actual worst, for being skeeved out by the creepy things and finding a constructive way to deal with it. Rā€™s controlling ex gets full freedom when it comes to vent fic, even when itā€™s about wallowing in torturing, raping, and murdering an avatar for a real person (the original one they harassed!), or punching someone in the face until they agree to be your friend (another artist these guys targeted). But Rā€™s position seems to be that only C is allowed to vent (even if itā€™s genital mutilation fantasies), and Iā€™m definitely not.
Oh, and R has now expanded this remix into me totally having a consistent pattern of stealing ideas and plagiarism and so many remixes that are obviously done as revenge on anyone who pisses me off. So thatā€™s nice.
So R hates your writing. Is that seriously why this post exists?
Ha, no. Letā€™s look at the concrete things R is saying. Here, let me post a little sampling of evidence.
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These arenā€™t just things heā€™s shouting into the void, people have responded saying wow, I never knew that! These are lies that people are believing about me. And then yesterday, June 30, 2017, he warned a friend not to disagree with my meta, or Iā€™d come harass them. A friend Iā€™m aggressively leaving out of this, just as Iā€™m leaving out other responses, because these people donā€™t deserve to be dragged into Rā€™s bullshit.
Letā€™s have bullet points. Some of these are the silly spock-is-bad-at-writing complaints. Those are here because this whole mess is pretty fucking depressing and the ridiculous claims make me laugh, but these are all things he says.
Spock is evil ā€“ You know what, heā€™s not calling people pedophiles, which is a step up. Iā€™ll take it.
Spock is a plagiarist ā€“ I remixed one fic with full credit, said only good things about the original, and linked to it in extra places so that people would have extra opportunities to click through and check it out. I arguably remixed inappropriately, but thatā€™s not the same thing. Words have definitions. If Iā€™m a plagiarist, so is everyone whoā€™s ever written a fanfic.
Spock is something something mean when people disagree ā€“ I donā€™t even know, man. Iā€™m actually shockingly conflict-averse. Is this because I make walls of text and explain why I hold opinions at great length? I enjoy talking about a thing I love. Iā€™m autistic, Iā€™m hyperverbal, and this is my special interest, so is it that I talk a lot? Thatā€™s the best I can do. Iā€™ve talked about things I disagree with on a private forum, in which case mister pot has had a lot of fun in public on twitter, not only talking shit, but also spreading outright untruths. Maybe he wants to rethink this one.
Spock will come harass you if you disagree ā€“ You need to back the heck down, pal.
Spockā€™s meta/fic/characterization is bad and they should feel bad ā€“ Hahaha, fite me. He wonā€™t, because I can articulately defend myself at significant length, and his criticisms seem to stop at ā€˜spock sucksā€™, but hey.
Spock used ableist language about Whirl - I... what? This one confuses me and makes me laugh so it stays here. Also, holy double standards, batman.
Spock is only into transformers to harass R ā€“ I checked out transformers because I was pretty sure R was being disgustingly ableist (he was). I stayed in transformers because I adore it. I had to adore it a lot to make me willing to share fandom space with these two. My god, I have better things to do with my life than spend all my time on something that bores me just to annoy one asshole on the other side of the internet. Iā€™d ask if he thinks I spent dozens of painstaking hours cross-stitching Starscream just to bother him, butā€¦.. yep, pretty sure he does.
Spock goes after all of Rā€™s favorite characters to upset him ā€“ R latches on to just about every interesting and/or sympathetic character that shows up. When he was dating C, they covered most of the cast between them. I donā€™t care who R likes best because I donā€™t agree with his opinions. I tend to stay away from his opinions because I donā€™t like reading things that bother me. This is asnine. Iā€™m only allowed to like the characters R despises, I guess.
Spock makes fanworks for things R likes just to make him see them ā€“ Oh my god, I donā€™t caaaaaare. I write about things that interest me, unless Iā€™m venting. Say, venting about the way R and his ex have deliberately hurt a shockingly high number of people I care about. ā€˜Spock made rodistar because I liked it--ā€™ I made it because I wrote a thing about their parallels, and shipping was the obvious next step. R isnā€™t that important to me. Promise.
This is just exhausting, man. The anxiety bugs had been dying down, and it had been ages since I checked out this guyā€™s anything. C, who drove the whole initial blowup that led to this, has been quiet and chill on tumblr. But R has learned from his exā€™s old example and has been having fun spreading lies about me.
In conclusion
Some fun history.
R was 18 when he told a CSA survivor upset about being outed and harassed to wank using their tears for lube.
He was older than that when he defended Cā€™s right to post about wanting to mutilate someoneā€™s genitals (for the crime of saying Cā€™s logic didnā€™t make sense).
He was older than that when he complained about that personā€™s spouse being ā€˜viciousā€™ for reacting badly to Cā€™s genital mutilation fantasy.
He was older than that when he nodded along as C called autistic people retards and said they should die.
He was older than that when he talked about being happy that someone he disliked was triggered, and nodded along when C fantasized about that person drinking bleach.
And he was older than that when he defended C, his twenty-something boyfriend, against the thirteen-year-old that C had been having incredibly inappropriate conversations with, despite skype log proof and everything.
And despite all this, Iā€™m still the bad guy, because I didnā€™t think what they were doing was okay. Iā€™m the bad guy for being upset by C's actions, even though... R is now upset by Cā€™s actions. The ways I responded to C were inexcusable. My only motivation is to hurt people. Every thing I did that ever upset them still means Iā€™m terrible, even though R is saying this while heā€™s busy posting about how awful C is. And this all means that he needs to warn his friends not to catch my attention, or Iā€™ll come harass them.
So, Iā€™m tired.
Iā€™m very tired.
Iā€™m glad heā€™s trying to grow past that history. Good. Maybe he can do that without making up a story about how Iā€™m unrepentant villain who lives for villainy and who only takes joy in causing him pain. Iā€™m sure it helps him, because itā€™s a story that brushes aside the shit he did that he regrets, and makes his past less painful to think about. But that doesnā€™t mean Iā€™m okay with him telling lies about me.
I donā€™t know why Iā€™m the one boogeyman he has left (I kid, itā€™s because Iā€™m in transformers, and because he thinks Iā€™m popular. he harps on it a lot, and itā€™s weird for everyone). I mean, whatever. Iā€™ve aggressively avoided publishing drama details on here for a very long time. But there are two blog tags, miscellaneous other untagged blog content, three forum threads, and hundreds of pages of skype logs with hard evidence of this bullshit.
Iā€™m pretty sure that if he tries to defend himself, one, heā€™ll place some blame on his ex. Thatā€™s fair. C was pretty darn controlling and demanding. But R is still absolutely responsible for his own actions, and is especially responsible for the harm he personally caused. Heā€™ll talk about how itā€™s bullshit to pull up all these receipts from so very long ago. In that case, his receipts for me (whatever he even has) are equally old, so arenā€™t they null and void? No, because Spock is the devil. And itā€™s not so much bullshit if heā€™s clearly learned nothing, and has gone back to spreading outright falsehoods about people.
To be clear, a lot of the lies he told about me were told a while back. Weeks to a few months to a year. I was letting it sit, because Iā€™d really, really hoped this was over. Yesterday, June 30, 2017, he warned a friend not to publicly disagree with my meta or Iā€™d come and harass them.
Itā€™s been three years since I first saw him doing this. Iā€™ve watched him hurt a lot of people, and Iā€™ve watched him admit, multiple times, that he has hurt people. I thought heā€™d learned to stop following these toxic patterns. Apparently he has not.
Edit 7/2/2017: To repeat the edit up above, R has said he regrets posting these things about me, and that he's going to try to avoid slipping into this in the future. I very much appreciate that.
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Ep. 2 -Ā "You May be Hot but You Can at Least Pretend to Laugh at my Jokes" - Isaac
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I am now in a trio alliance with JD and Lydia. We're like Destiny's Child, but I'm Beyonce of course. The strategy (originally thought of by JD), is what I've dubbed 'Destiny's Child and Destiny's Children'. Us three are the core three, who will each link up with another one of the children, to form a majority. We'll pool all the information together and control the tribe. Can you call us a thruple?
The next immunity challenge - Afterlife Crawl - is issued.
http://survivoremathia.tumblr.com/post/157844105761/immunity-challenge-2
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Swedevivor. Whoever the branding team behind Swedish Survivor was needs to GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER. Swedevivor is a genius name! Anywho, just did the Elysium part of the challenge and I think I did okay (even though I took probably too long...)... I've not too pressed about this challenge, as Aleeza is the unfortunate obvious first boot if we go to tribal anywho.
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I'm feeling overwhelmed by this game, I haven't done anything for either challenge and I only know the names of three of my tribe members. It's like a ticking time bomb of when will I be voted off
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IĀ HAVE MY OWN WIKI PAGE, TAKE THAT HATERS!
http://tumblr-survivor-athena.wikia.com/wiki/Ali
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My confession? I love Jay. Right now I love Jay more than I love Abbey. Mostly because Jay needs the extra support, but I do. Love u both sm have a great night babes
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I just want my tribe to like me and I'm trying really hard because I feel like they don'tā„¢. Like lowkey everytime I make a joke it isn't acknowledged and I try very hard to come up with material. Also Samuel in particular I feel like doesn't like me. He kind of doesn't even acknowledge my existence? Like bye you may be hot but you can at least pretend to laugh at my jokes.
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Whew i think this is my first one so We voted out Linus bc he wasnt there (and because me matt ryan and Owen alligned) and now we slayed this fucking challenge we literally did that whew. I trust my alliance for now but we'll see about that in the future ColinHEY I DID SOMETHING. I ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING TO HELP OUT :') I can't believe I did that. Im cryin. I did something productive y'all. i saved us from going to tribal council. Now we're the only tribe still completely intact. I'm also starting to talk a lot with the people on my tribe?? And I think I get along with like everyone?? To think last round I was crying about how I wouldn't fit in bc I'm new and all and now IM DOING THAT.
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OH YEAH I ALSO HAVEN'T MADE A CONFESSIONAL SINCE LAST ROUND SO I'LL UPDATE YALL WITH MY NEW STRATEGYā„¢. So I still love Logan and Trevor so much. I talk to them pretty much daily. Now I'm DETERMINED TO GET AN OFFICIAL ALLIANCE TONIGHT!!!! WISH ME LUCK YALL. Right now I still kinda wanna lay low. Like not to toot my own horn but I am a really good strategic player and manipulator, but I don't want to show that yet. I need to just play socially right now. I need to sit back, let others do stuff, and build a cute lil alliance around me. I'm stoked for this game now y'all have no idea
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Boy do I have a lot to talk about. So first off YAY! First alliance! Me, Ali and Lydia are calling our selves Destiny's Children. Kinda because our plan was to baby the others in the tribe to make sure they were comfortable, then when we had to we'd start kicking them off. I don't think we're gonna do that anymore but we are three and we are with the newbies so I don't think they'll notice. Or one of us will get blind sides. But really... Why? The three of us were the strongest in the first challenge and we /almost all/ bombed the last one. Get rid of the person not playing, they are the weakest link, so good bye.
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OKAY THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I'VE MADE A CONFESSIONAL IN LIKE THE PAST HOUR BUT I GOT A LOT TO SAY. Ok maybe adding Trevor and Logan into an alliance was Ā BAD IDEA they seem awkward and they both told me they used to not get along so this is a weird alliance dynamic. But they both still cute and sweet so I'll try to make it work. If this ends up biting me in the ass I'll cry.
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So gosh, I got a little worried earlier. Thought that my alliance member was picking a fight with one of the hosts. Dear god, worried as fuck I was. But that's what you get for only seeing one side of the conversation. I'm glad she spoke up, even if she didnt win the tie breaker and we still gotta go to tribal but it's alllll good. I'm glad she did it. Gave us a fighting chance and put two of our own in the labrynth too. And one of my own :D
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Once again, I have no clue what's going on this game. I'm just trying to float on by and get through to the next challenge and hopefully get to play
I'm pretty sure Ali is in control of our tribe, which I'm okay with as long as they can keep me safe
George and Aleeza are removed from the Odysseus tribe after officially quitting, which will be announced later in the episode.
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George and Aleeza just got removed from the tribe at the same time and then we were told a post was coming. Hopefully that means Aleeza was voted out or something because Aleeza is barely ever active in the tribe.
http://survivoremathia.tumblr.com/post/157888463891/results-immunity-2
http://survivoremathia.tumblr.com/post/157890146531/announcement-tiebreaker
http://survivoremathia.tumblr.com/post/157890928596/results-tie-breaker
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my tribe won immunity I'm very happy but rip Lydia huh
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*blink*blink*. Ā The fuck just happened??!?!
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So Iā€™m pretty sure Trevor just went to everybody and told them about the labyrinth in the rules things because I was talking to Rob and he said that Trevor told him and Logan about the Labyrinth rule things and I was like hm thatā€™s funny. And now I look at the wiki and our tribe is the only tribe to have pretty much everyone go to the labyrinth I think. I kinda know about the game Trevor plays because I read generations confessionals when I was really bored one day. I know something he likes to do to build trust with people is throw them information that you would think he would only tell you because he trusts you when in reality itā€™s something that he just using to make you believe that he trusts you with important information. For example the labyrinth being one of those things. You would think that only somebody who trusts you would tell you a way to get into the labyrinth. Well Trevor knows that, and heā€™s trying to use it to his advantage and heā€™s not being very sneak about it. I donā€™t blame him I do the same exact thing but I donā€™t go to literally everyone and tell them that. People talk and now heā€™s already getting caught trying to have his hand in multiple cookie cookie jars. Iā€™m happy I decided to call with Rob because after this call I feel like I have a few plays that I can make to survive our first tribal council. Whenever that is at least. First Rob told me that Logan doesnā€™t trust Trevor and thereā€™s some bad blood between them and Trevor. Now say like I said in my last confessional it does come to one of us three bangladesh peeps being targeted cause thatā€™s really the only smart thing for these people to do. I can just pull a Cady Herron and shove Logan right in front of a bus and just tell Trevor that Logan doesnā€™t trust him because of Divergent which he knows will be true cause I know nothing about that game so thereā€™s no reason for me to know that without actually being told it. If it has to be someone from bangladesh I want it to be Logan cause Rob is someone who I do really trust for now. I donā€™t know whether I should hold onto the information about Logan not trusting Trevor or if I should tell him whenever we end up calling like he wanted to. I do really like Trevor as a friend but I also am thinking it might be good to eventually take him out if I see that there is an opportunity to now or at a tribe swap. Iā€™m hoping Lydia will really want to work with me because if she is willing to Iā€™m willing to actually be loyal to her and be a close ally to her. But I know her and Trevor are like the bestest friends so there is no chance of Lydia being loyal to me over him which I donā€™t like. Iā€™m such a selfish player lkvwcwkkw. I feel like I trust Trevor, and I trust Lydia. But for some reason when I think about playing with the both of them like together I donā€™t trust them as much as playing with just one of them at a time. Just cause I feel like if it is us three together than I will always be the musketeer thatā€™s on the outs and they will definitely trust each other over me. I need to take Trevor out so that Lydia doesnā€™t have that person that she is comfortable with to run to once we swap or merge. I want to be that person that Lydia trusts the most if I do end up working with her and that will never be me as long as Trevor is in the game.
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... in the words of a wise host called... Host 1... *" CATCH THESE HANDS"*
George and Aleeza officially quit the game, and a mutiny is offered in attempt to re-balance the tribes. Tribal council is cancelled.
http://survivoremathia.tumblr.com/post/157917281706/announcement
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OH YIKES A MUTINY. Okay so unless Logan or Trevor both say they want to mutiny, I won't, under any circumstances. I don't see any benefit to mutiny at this point, like our tribe seems pretty solid and intact. I really hope no one from Oympus chooses to mutiny. It'd just be bad to lose someone at this point, I'd rather just wait for the tribe swap in a couple rounds. The only people on our tribe who I feel MAY leave would be Isaac and Sam. I'm not really that close with them but I still desperately want them to stay. Ugh yikes this makes things weird. There is a small sinking feeling inside of me that is saying Trevor will mutiny to be with Owen, his boyfriend. But I trust him enough that I think he'd at least tell me if he was going to, so then I can actually go with him. Then i'd at least be with Owen and Duncan, the only two people in this game I actually knew beforehand. But still, TL;DR, YIKES I HOPE NO ONE FROM OLYMPUS DECIDES TO MUTINY WE'RE DOING SO WELL. Sami guess now it's finally time to make a confession! so everything has been going relatively smoothly? i hasn't run into too much trouble because i haven't really given a reason for people to target me. however, the only person that i truly trust is trevor, but i feel like he's being highly targeted by all the others. that's frustrating. now, there's a mutiny offer, and trevor wants to go. i don't believe i have a target, but i don't want to lose him. and, i also feel that if i mutiny, i will create a target on myself. so it's very very difficult to make this choice. stay tuned, kids!
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https://youtu.be/RnLuEORFH9M
Mutiny results:Ā http://survivoremathia.tumblr.com/post/157927339256/mutiny-results
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