#this is like denji and makima and nayuta lmao

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check out this lovely fucking fic (by @ginkotracks) where deaged afo is taken in by yagi. I'm going insane with that premise omg

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people went insane about the last two pages which, valid, i cackled out loud myself, but there's so many little details in this chapter that make my head spin, like:

nayuta getting her classmates to give her their desserts. that's so insanely petty i love this child i love that she's still very much the control devil and a little shit

the scale of the mass deaths and disappearances makes so much sense and it's gonna keep getting worse, and it's good to see how it affects everyone in society. so far we've mostly been seeing orphans who've lost their parents but kids themselves are just as likely to die, if not moreso!

asa's recurring dream.......... What Does This Mean

oh i'm losing my mind about this one. "report any persons inciting fear" could mean anything, from reporting wannabe doomsday prophets out of worry they'd increase the fear and thus the power of devils, to grifters, to an excuse to report and jail anybody who says anything about the government as "people inciting fear" lol

also yeah this is affecting the entire world. fun

I FUCKING KNEW HARUKA WAS GONNA BE A FIRE PUNCH SUN STAND-IN I KNEW IT. SUGAR WE ARE GOING DOWN SHIT IS GONNA BE SO AWFUL

watch the chainsaw man society get more and more powerful, watch as pochita's powers decrease, watch as eventually something happens to turn awe and adoration of chainsaw man into utter terror and thus increase his power

there's something really nasty about the talk show host inviting teenage haruka who's seen so many people die and is obviously so dedicated to chainsaw man in part because the world is so fucked up just to poke fun at him, like his classmates weren't murdered a couple of weeks ago.

i really, really like the use of mirrors here. genuinely

also fami's "you don't need to think"........ hmmmm the makima parallels are increasing

a world without evil.......... yeah they're gonna try to use pochita's powers to erase some things huh. we know yoshida talked about erasing death a while back huh

g-d i generally have absolutely no feelings on yoshida whatsoever except that he's fucking hilarious. hysterical even. gosh denji sure is good i plucked you out of class huh!!!!

he is certainly not beating the accusations either lmao

also denji losing his mind at public safety (bc no way this ain't public safety or a government org) putting their hands on nayuta......... emo

you know for all the jokes about yaoi it's definitely kinda chilling that denji would propose sexual favours in exchange for nayuta's safety. like idk if fujimoto is ever gonna explicitly state that denji is a csa survivor but it's hard for me to not think of this as another clue in that direction

only one week wait this time YIPPEE

[possiblylando]

Chainsaw Man Chapter 149 'Early' Analysis

This entire chapter is pretty sad when you ignore the fact fumiko got her ass handed to her and ran away like a coward lmao ! GET HER ASS NAYUTA KILLLLLLLLLLLL KILLLLLLLL!

This whole chapter is about Denji more than it is Nayuta. Denji continues to be put in a situation were even if it means protecting the people he cares about it he can't turn into chainsaw man because that would lead to them being hurt.

You can watch the cogs turning in his head throughout the chapter.

This whole middle section excluding fumiko's involvement (she did one useful thing this chapter thats a new record now never show up again you BASTARD) Ahem Pretty much everything in this middle section of the chapter is about Denji's own insecurities and fears despite the fact they're never actually stated. You can see it in his face throughout this. He feels like he failed Nayuta. Yeah he's been treating her well but he hasn't actually done anything to discipline her and make sure she turns out as a well adjusted adult. He's just been letting school and tv do everything for him and all he's been doing is giving into her demands.

You can see it best in these few pages. There are a lot of close ups on Denji and Nayuta. It's clear Denji isn't really thinking about any of these things they're just distractions. Everytime he says one of the things he's worried about theres a pause. He's probably worried he's failed Nayuta to the point she'll become a second Makima. She's already been showing traits of it but they've never really been anything major until the point she whips out "Denji we should join the devils side we can do whatever we want then". Which being real- Nayuta is like 8 years old of course she hasn't considered any of the ramifications of doing that. In all likely hood she just wants to do it because that means she can do whatever she wants without rules. She hasn't considered the fact in a world ruled by devils there wouldn't be any 'modern' (1999?) commodities.

This page is interesting because it's like Denji snapped back into reality. When Asa is brought up his mind shifts to being worried about her instead of what he was thinking about before. Then the lingering resentment on his face in the bottom panel. She came in and 'stole' everything he had. But this is still Denji and Asa is a girl. So it works out.

NOW GO KICK FUMIKO'S ASS! SAVE THE WORLD

[ofoceansandtombsanew]

I would really like to know if you did any kind of character study for Makima when writing your two-part fics. I'm sure others have said this to you, but you do a really good job of writing Makima. Her interactions with others (specifically reader) are never out-of-character in terms of tone and diction. Was there any aspect of her personality/character that was difficult for you to flesh out in writing? What did you enjoy the most when characterizing her? Thank you so much for your time!

TAT thanks so much, the amount of love the duology has received since I've written it makes it really happy! And I love being asked about the technical side of things I've written so thanks for asking!

I have done a couple of partially in-depth character studies in Makima, some of which I've subjected anyone in the tags to reading and subjected my friends to reading as well.

If you ever want to read those posts separately, you can check that out here.

But to summarize, after a thorough read of CSM I came to the conclusion that what got in the way of Makima's dream wasn't her nature as the Control Devil, but herself. She enjoys being in control, she enjoys tormenting people. Part if it is nature, yes. Controlling people comes to Makima as easily as Power desires blood as the Blood Fiend. But some of it's nurture. We aren't entirely sure how she was brought up but it clearly created a terrible, terrible person. A person who enjoyed fucking with people.

And by the time chapter 1 has rolled around, Makima is too far gone to ever get the sort of relationship she wants even if she had won.

So going with that analysis in mind, I wanted to craft a story with a Makima not quite at her breaking point.

I thought going in Makima would be difficult to write but it came surprisingly easy to me! I'm not sure if that's because I was up in CSM hell dissecting her character because it didn't feel like I was when I read things initially. I was mostly going "Someone PLEASE take all of Denji's suffering and give it to Makima" lmao, she grew on me after my reading part 1 of the manga.

She was even fun to write, in my opinion. It's her condescending way of talking to others, her surprisingly gentle voice that lacks any true warmth.

But I think the thing I enjoyed most of all as far as the Makima duology was writing Makima's displays of affections while still maintaining her possessive nature. Using her abilities to take control of the senses of animals to check when Reader gets home, eavesdropping, half-jokingly talking about how she can make people come to her wedding with the reader, using absolute control to force the Bureau to accept her resignation because all she desires at this point is living peacefully with her beloved. And especially her ambiguous wording of the contract in Man is the Breast, Heaven is the Playground.

As she maintains in her contract with the reader, she doesn't use her abilities on you and you'll stay with her forever. But I chose to have word choice be ambiguous because for Makima, a future where she can't guarantee she'll be loved the way she is in the present by the reader is one she doesn't desire. She won't allow it. She won't let herself be anyone else's so by extension, she doesn't want anyone else to have you.

It's a twisted selfishness blossomed from genuine love and affection, a feeling only you've given her.

She wants you forever. In this life and the next and the next and the next. Something you agree to without realizing the full implications of what she meant, not that you really care. You want to be with her forever too even if your belief was that it would be contained to a single life.

So in the sequel A Blazing Star Sought Refuge in My Chest, I really loved writing the scene where the reincarnated Reader meets Nayuta.

「You glared at the girl, ready for a fight. “Hey get off of m-,” You. Your words halted as soon as you saw her wide-eyed stare and tears. There was nothing familiar about this girl, you had never seen her before in your life. There was nothing familiar about her black hair, nor the mole under her left eye. You were sure you couldn’t say you’d ever met anyone with golden eyes with red rings in them either. There was no reason to feel like your senses had been set ablaze and the universe shifted.

You didn’t know this girl.

This girl was a stranger.

You knew this and yet you still fell to your knees as warm tears flooded your eyes without your permission. Your mind had gone blank, unable to conjure a single thought and even if you could, you doubted you would be able to voice them. So you followed instinct as it screamed at you to hold this stranger in your arms, welcomed the way she threw her arms over your shoulders in return.

An indeterminable amount of time passed while you cried in the arms of a stranger before you stood up again. 」

I wanted that scene to be purely instinctual with their souls recognizing one another. And with Reincarnated Reader's earlier mention that she felt like there was something in her life she needed to do, for the both of them it was like an awakening. A single moment of seeing each other was the birth of a universe. That's blazing star has found refuge in both of their chests in that moment.

The reason I chose to make them both children during this section of the fic was because of the inherent innocence they would have. An adult would have this experience and more than likely be skeptical and less receptive to such an experience. They'd be too cynical.

But for two kids alone in the world and instinct telling them they're meant to be together, that the other person is what they've been looking for this whole time, it makes perfect sense not to question it and live the rest of their lives together.

And as far as my completely separate Makima oneshot when it all comes Crashing Down (the title was a stylistic choice), I used Makima having a sweet tooth and the reader disliking things being too saccharine to reflect Makima's desire to clutch onto any traces their dying friendship and the Reader's dying affections towards her and yet still remaining by her side despite knowing their friendship is pretty much dead. I had a lot of fun with that!

[swagst0rm]

csm chapter tomorrow are we gonna see Barem and his silly little flamethrower form???

I’m kinda hoping this is isn’t like a final showdown between Barem and Denji. Killing him right now would be kinda unfinished in my eyes, and I’d like to see atleast like a two chapter long fight between them (sort of like with Aki or Makima’s final battles.)

I also feel like Denji turning into Chainsaw Man is a perfect opportunity for Yoshida to show up, and possibly therefore Yoru/Asa. If Yoshida tries to kill Nayuta, Yoru might be hunting down Yoshida because of their fight (unless she doesn’t care lmao). If she is hunting Yoshida I think it’d be really fucking funny as well if Barem died because he was like collateral damage to Yoru, only to be eaten by Denji.

I’m trying to make sense of my own words in the paragraph above, and I’m too lazy to make it make sense so enjoy.

[madraleen]

Chainsaw Man - Tatsuki Fujimoto   Ch. 98-132: A Disappointed Commentary and Overall Impressions.

LISTEN. If you’re as sensitive about your faves as I am, don’t read this. I’m bummed with Part 2 and it shows. (But, hey, I’m looking forward to reading more?)

-This Asa has had more introspection in twenty pages than Denji has had in his entire lifetime (this is a neutral comment).

-Did she accidentally squash Chicken Devil omg

-Holy shit, this escalated. Mr Tanaka, really now?

-I kinda like Yoru. And Yoru alone.

-Your goal is to defeat Chainsaw Man and mine is to actually see him... I don’t care about Asa that much.

-Oh Denji, u in Asa’s manga too?

-I like Denji, give me more Denji, omg, this is my nightmare scenario of endless chapters focused on characters you’re not interested in, I’ve feared this for a while.

-Where is everyone? Why has everyone left Denji alone? Like, in life.

-I don’t like that Denji is a side-character!

-Pls, Nayuta, save the story :’(

-At anyone who might be reading this and is enjoying the story: I am very, very happy that you do, I’m jealous. I am so disappointed though. I’m disappointed that Denji is not the MC, yes, but also, Asa is not compelling to me, there’s no side-characters with spark and just life, the setting is underwhelming - a school after Public Safety, I don’t see any interesting dynamics right now. Basically, what compelled me in the first arc just isn’t here. I see people saying to wait, that things will peak and twist and turn, and, well, yes, of course they might, but that doesn’t make up for the things that haven’t worked for me so far. But yes, please reframe those things, please, make me eat my words and shock me into adoring the arc! I beg! I beg to be wrong!

-There’s a lot of bread crumbs for the future, I won’t deny that. Yoshida’s random organization, Nayuta herself, the prophecy, the contract with Power of course, but... give us something concrete :’(.

-In a weird way though, it has me wanting to read on and on and then some, just to see Denji and see where on earth this is going.

-Why drown it, bitch. Why drown the cat, bitch.

-”Solitude and companionship... I’m afraid of both!” I mean, same.

-The Falling Devil ala chef, great, I like that.

-And you would care if the Devil’s a thief... why exactly, Denji boy?

-Yes, bb, yes, bring up Denji’s trauma, bring up Power and Aki, finally. God, I miss them. But yay, finally, quality time with Denji!

-Chainsaw be like “I wanna have sex!” and Asa be like “yeah, nvm, just let me fall.”

-They are ON A PLATE, nice. See, I’m lots more ameliorable when Denji is around and denji-ing.

-Actually content now that Denji’s been around for a few chapters in a row, lmao.

-Looking forward to seeing who “fake Chainsaw” is. An actual other Chainsaw? Denji from the future? Who knows.

-War Devil might win in the prophesy and prevent the Age of Devils, got it. Yoru, you’re up.

-And now Nayuta has the spotlight, phew, I can breathe again. And more Denji! We’re ending the binge-read on a positive note.

Overall Impressions: Part 1: Love and adoration, fun, ridiculousness, excitement, pain and heartbreak, shock and respect. Sometimes the plot gets convoluted. Denji, Aki and Power are one of my favorite gangs. I love all the side-characters, I love Denji, I love the character development, I love to hate Makima, I love the panel composition. Part 2: I’m bummed and curious. Not enough Denji, but I’m delighted when Denji and Nayuta appear. For the moment weak side-characters. Lots of hints for potentially exciting things to come. Lacks the visual oomph of Part 1 because of lackluster setting. I don’t vibe with Asa.

[ciitrinitas]

hittin you with the uno reverse card, lessee uhhh makiden, asaden, angela/ayin, benjamin/ayin, hod/yesod, binah/hod

oh boy, lots of good ones here...

(in response to this!)

makiden - A+: OTP.

makiden is so good. prime badtouch material. but the way that they're more than that? part 1 of chainsaw man is nothing short of a plea for empathy, and that for all her flaws, for all her mistakes, for all her horrible acts, it doesn't ask for makima to be forgiven, but for her to be understood--it drives me insane. she never really saw denji, and he was a means to an end for her, but he still loved her. like, ugh, they're really hard to talk coherently and eloquently about because makima is absolutely an abuser and denji her victim, but makima is also a victim. csm doesn't intend to absolve her; it asks that you understand that she is another step in the cycle of abuse.

makiden is the meat and potatoes of csm part 1. incredibly sexy on every level, but also so narratively and thematically compelling. i really can't say enough about how much i love them. it's really hard for me to talk about why they do so much for me without going into a long ramble about why i also love part 1 of csm so damn much. makiden as a relationship is utterly vital to it.

asaden - A+: OTP.

i swear i have denji ships that i wouldn't qualify as otps! (the other one that hits that tier is akiden. u_u) but, god, what a fucking life i am living. this went from a borderline crack ship to having actual canon potential. initially, i was pretty invested in it from the angle of self-hating moronsexual mitaka (it works for asayoru, too! just act stupid, and mitaka will be cursing how horny she is seeing you fail to solve basic math makes her), then oh my god...oh my god, they went on an actual canon date. and mitaka was convinced infodumping all the research she binged the night before at denji would make him hot and bothered for her, and she's legit so charmed at him being a good guy (HE WANTS NAYUTA TO GO TO COLLEGE). i'm doomed. i'm absolutely doomed. i'm deluded enough at this point to have true canon aspirations for asaden and feeling a salty victory at some annoying yshdn shippers i've seen think it stood a chance at being canon when yshd still barely has a character.

thanks for ruining my brain twice over, fujimoto. like, GOD, HE WAS LISTENING DURING HER RAMBLING!! HE ASKED HER OUT AGAIN. I'M GONNA DIE. I SHIPPED THEM FROM EARLY ON. i fully expect it to go south because chainsaw man, but god am i fucking living right now.

angela/ayin - A+: OTP.

thanks for bullying me with just a bunch of my otps because i love too many things and stick the otp label on them. but, boy, this snuck up on me with lobcorp. the ending absolutely makes lobcorp, elevates it to a level of brilliance imo. angela spends the entire game, spends hundreds of years, operating on ayin's script (and i'm very curious to what extent that included, to what minutiae her words were dictated by him. did he set things so specifically that she decided to always introduce herself as such a Special and Advanced AI to him lmao?) until she finally has free will in her grasp and crushes the culmination of his and everyone's suffering to exercise it. it's just so fucking good. spending so much time simmering in hate and bitterness for this man while being made to assist him again and again and again.

and ayin, buddy...friend...fella...you literally just made your crush as an ai but with bigger tits after she died. if that isn't romantic, i don't know what is. but, seriously, the fact he was so heartbroken at carmen's "death" (because she did live on in a fucked up way as the heart of this literal purgatory) only to immediately reject angela because oh...well...he wanted carmen back, but this isn't carmen. angela was made as a replacement that could never fulfill her purpose, and yet ayin kept her so close for so long.

it's deeply fucked up, and it makes me insane. thanks for giving angela daddy issues, ayin. at least let her choke you a few times as compensation!

benjamin/ayin - B: It’s really cute.

benjamin is the funniest motherfucker in lobotomy corporation. even more than ayin himself. i am absolutely desperate to know the hard timeline for how the hell the timey-wimey shit works out for where he always appears as "benjamin" before being shoved in a robot to reappear as hokma. because, man, getting shoved in a toaster sure does something to the guy! like, ayin, let's just be here together in robot purgatory because no one needs to die and we can be husbands and forget carmen like i can put on a wig if you need me too it's fine seriously i don't mind just please god stay with me forever. 💗💗💗

hod/yesod - A+: OTP.

I MADE THIS SHIT UP. I FUCKING TRICKED MYSELF INTO THIS. THEY BARELY INTERACT, but like, one day, i was like oh boy i like hod but what if she Could Make Someone Worse? i went down the list, and malkuth? nah, too strong of a personality versus hod. netzach? it'd be sort of mutual self-worsening between those two. it'd be a whole essay on its own about why it didn't fulfill what i was looking for, but i have Thoughts, i swear. hod/binah? oh, no one can out worse binah. hod/angela? pretty similar to hod/binah.

but. oh. hod/yesod? there's this distinct point of connection for them in their mutual anxieties as a point of exploitation. hod wants to be helpful, wants to be needed, and yesod is someone that holds himself together tightly until he isn't. a little undoing, and oh, wow, he really needs hod's assistance, doesn't he? maybe it's a little nudge from angela (it gets boring repeating shit, okay) or hod herself just Noticing, but hod is not above setting someone else up to be at just the level of functioning where they often fall apart and need to rely on her to get by. yesod is the king of options for hod making someone worse and being the dominant partner. he might have the stronger personality, but he isn't without some degree of humanity, and hod can slowly worm her way in there.

this is sheer nonsense based on me huffing whatever the fuck this ship is. yesod just needs to be a little desperately vulnerable, and hod would be such a good helper! everyone wins! ^_^

binah/hod - B: It’s really cute.

okay, to an extent with binah ships, my brain just empties out and goes oh wow big sexy. i like how casually manipulative and in control binah is (or seems) in every situation. hod is super cute and desperate for validation. let her snap a little, and you'd have a real great violence breakdown girl with some manipulative reassurance. gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss, binah. you're so valid.

[purinnrin]

Chainsaw Man Pochita Fan Theory (manga spoilers)

I've been thinking about this all day, and I can't tell if I'm onto something or if I'm having a Pepe Sylvia moment, so thoughts would be appreciated.

Spoilers ahead

When a devil eats another devil, specifically its heart, it gains the powers and traits of that devil. I think that in reality, Pochita is actually the dog devil, and has eaten the Chainsaw Devil, which originally had the conceptual erasure powers.

It makes sense as Pochita, first off, looks like a dog, and dogs don’t have much to do with chainsaws.

The relationship between Chainsaws and being able to completely erase something conceptually, is shaky too, so it might be possible that the Chainsaw devil had eaten another devil in the past as well.

We know that devil cannibalism is an extremely rare occurrence, since devils don’t like the taste of devil blood. This explains why Pochita is an extremely rare occurrence.

If devils don’t like the taste of other devils, one of the reasons why they would eat another would be due to direct confrontation, or self preservation. 

Pochita is injured when we first meet him; it may have been because he just defeated the chainsaw devil, who may have wanted to eat him for some reason. 

This also adds another layer to the Gun Devil’s motives. It may have wanted Pochita’s heart, since he was a real threat, but it might have been aware that eating his heart would grant him the powers of the chainsaw.

We also know that eating pieces of the gun devil’s flesh makes a devil stronger. We saw the fish devil had some mechanical legs, which may be due to eating a piece of the gun devil. 

Strong devils that are more conceptual, like the Future Devil, and the Falling Devil, tend to have more abstract features, suggesting that they have eaten devils before, with similar aesthetic features. 

One of the biggest motifs in Chainsaw Man is eating. I think that devils avoid eating other devils since it's basically cannibalism, but on the off chance that they do, they gain the others’ traits. It’s a very literal “you are what you eat.” 

Fujimoto is also constantly talking about food in the author notes. While they seem random on the surface, a lot of his notes may contain references to chapters. Reddit user u/Prestigious_Seat_313 noted this on https://www.reddit.com/r/ChainsawMan/comments/vhn0o2/all_weekly_commentaries_from_fujimoto_have_been/ , 

‘ Some interesting things to notice:

23-06-2019

Commentary on chapter 27.

In it, Fujimoto mentions Junji Ito and in the same chapter Makima uses his powers to crush the yakuza, making reference to "Splatter Film" by the same author.

01-19-2020

Fujimoto mentions the manga Aku no sawa by Shūzō Oshimi. The character Sawa Nakamura somewhat resembles Makima, both in personality, appearance and role. Fujimoto was probably inspired by her, along with Haruko and Benten to create Makima.

01-03-2020

Commentary on Chapter 60.

Reference to the One Shot "Kirisuke and Johnny 499-person Massacre" by Shunji Enomoto, from which the chapter clearly takes inspiration as both deal with characters beheading people with style. As an additional fact, in the volume 5 extras, Fujimoto drew Kuzuhara, a character from a manga called "Enomoto" by the same author.

03-29-2020

Reference to the movie "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" by Quentin Tarantino. While it has no connection to CSM that I know of, it does to Look Back, where it is briefly referenced on a shelf. I also read that some people found both works similar, but I can't guarantee this.

04-26-2020

Fujimoto says that he likes the snow. Nothing more to say lmao.

30-08-2020

A manga called "Abara" (by Tsutomu Nihei) is mentioned . Chainsaw Man has taken a lot of inspiration from this work, for example, the protagonists of both manga are called Denji and in both there is a female character named Nayuta. Also the designs of the hybrids resemble the Gaunas of "Abara". ‘

I’m not saying that every author’s note is some subtle hint, but I think it's possible that all his talk about food isn’t entirely just about what he ate recently, but maybe something more subtle. We all know Fujimoto likes to fuck with us.

From here on, things get a little flimsier, but I want to say it anyway. 

People don’t seem as afraid of the Chainsaw Devil as they should be. Normally they should be frightened by his appearance, but the general consensus seems to be mixed. We had the Spider-Man 2 homage scene, where the old lady gives Denji her blood and the people saw him as a protector. I think this is due to Denji being the dog devil, and people may unconsciously perceive it as such. Dogs can be dangerous, but they can also be man’s best friend. Denji doesn’t really act like a dog until he fuses with Pochita, and his behavior becomes more doglike. While it's a pretty obvious motif throughout the series, I think there is a possibility that this could be taken more literally. Denji, being a hybrid, has the personality as well as the powers of Pochita. 

The ending of Part 1. Cannibalism was pretty prevalent in Fire Punch, and it's also touched on here. Since we don’t know too much about what exactly happens when a devil eats another devil, I’m thinking it may become a plot point in the future. 

Tldr: Pochita is actually the dog devil and gained his powers by eating the chainsaw devil. 

[toothlesshat]

be honest do you think denji has fed parts of makima to nayuta . would that even be considered cannibalism ? it’s like free reign

I’m going to say… no he hasn’t. Because Denji is a very selfish person, and slightly sentimental. Eating Makima was a really weird display of his love on top of being a means to halt her regeneration, and he openly admits that. So if eating Makima was a way to be one with her, I imagine Denji wouldn’t of given any of her to anyone else. unless I’m proven wrong in later chapters then ofc he would bc Makima meat is all he can afford aldjjsjfkdkdk

As far as cannibalism goes… maybe??? Lmao?? I’m kind of inclined to say no.. but almost. Because aren’t they fiends? So the bodies they’ve possessed aren’t technically theirs, the only thing Makima and Nayuta share are the same devil?? So maybe it’s not?? I’m scared of the answer now lmaoo

[north-park]

We haven't really seen a lot of them yet but i'm really into matching the Horsewomen with the M5 like this:

Eric = Fami

Kyle = Makima

Ike = Nayuta (replace China with Canada and you get the same character lmao)

Stan = Death Devil (i know DD has made no appearence yet srry)

Kenny = Denji

Butters (or Marj) = Asa

Victor/Chaos = Chaos

Dougie = Yuko

Wendy = Yoshida

Craig = Quanxi

As society we have progressed past the need for CSM PT 1 x SP crossovers it's time for CSM PT 2 x SP crossovers

[chainsawctopus]

What do u think of yoshiden

Oh boy. If you're here on my account then you probably already know who I am and how absolutely insane I am for them, but I'm gonna ramble anyway LOL thanks for giving me the opportunity to show people on Tumblr how insane I am ‼✌😁 If people who don't know me from twitter find this, hi I'm TK! I may be a little deranged for Yoshiden, just a tiny bit y'know- Yoshiden means a lot to me for various reasons but I'll just put down all my insane ramblings down belowwww [CSM Spoilers if anime onlys/new readers find this post somehow] [Serious Section] -Denji's distrust/disliking for men/straight up internalized homophobia is most likely because of his past abusers being male (the mafia and his father), so if he starts to trust Yoshida throughout the course of part 2 and they end up forming an actual bond, whether it's romantic or platonic, it kind of helps Denji get over his distrust and help him cope with that trauma knowing that hey not all dudes are that bad actually, this guy's pretty nice. (You could say that Beam already did that and they had a good bond too but Beam is... y'know... *finger across neck* bleh... and Denji still emphasizes he wouldn't let a dude sit on him in 104 so...)

-Surprise surprise, I'm in on the bi Denji agenda because I'm bisexual and all my favs have to be bi 😁😁/hj But seriously, bi Denji is a pretty good concept cause aside from getting rid of his internalized homophobia, it also helps him get over/cope with his trauma as I said above. Part 1 was all about Denji learning about different kinds of love (familial love from the Hayakawa family, romantic love from Reze, and the mess that is sexual->maternal->abusive love from Makima, etc etc), so exploring his sexuality in part 2 could be a nice little addition to that. (Bonus points for the new kind of familial love he has for Nayuta now that he's her older brother/father figure; bonus BONUS points if Yoshida's the other dad LOL) [Delusional Absolutely Normal Section] -Yoshida's canonically a pretty boy as stated by another guy, so maybe if Denji stares at him long enough he'll realize guys can be as pretty as girls too and think it's fine to find guys attractive LMAO

-We all agree Yoshida's gay or at least mspec mlm leaning/preference right? Right. -Anyway, I'M A TOTAL SUCKER FOR ONE-SIDED LOVE STORIES LOL I'd like to think Yoshida has coworkers who could've taken the job of watching over Denji but he deliberately asked to do the job because he found him cute back in part 1, though realistically he probably only got chosen for the job cause he knew about Denji's identity already and he's also in high school, but we're not here for realism, we're here for gay people. (Gay people being Hirofumi Yoshida.) (Did you see him at the table with Angel while Denji and Power were talking about barf and stuff? Dude was smiling while listening to them talk about random shit, he probably became interested in Denji then and there; hell, even the goddamn onigiri scene where Denji still eats it after it fell to the ground probably made him go 'woah this guy is sick in the head I'm in love') Back to the one sided thing, the idea of Yoshida being willing to die while protecting Denji is???? insane??? and I love it because it really shows how devoted he is not only to his job but to Denji in general. He's never truly lost his temper at Denji, even when he used his bare hands on the cake, even when he let himself get sat on by girls, and even how he only wants to reveal himself as Chainsaw Man just to get a girlfriend. Sure, he called him hopeless in the recent chapter, but he never raised his voice or fought back. He's always trying to be patient with him even when he's being completely ridiculous. Copypasting what I've said on twitter here: If someone started scooping and eating the cake I bought with their bare hands, I wouldn't just sit there and go "Aaaaaah!", I'd definitely get pissed. Yoshida has FEELINGS for this boy, I swear. He said NOTHING about it. NOTHING. No "Why the hell'd you do that?" or "Dude that's gross" OR ANYTHING, he immediately just goes back to talking about trying to prevent Denji from revealing his identity. If someone I liked, however, would eat cake with their bare hands, I'd just be embarrassed but also find it cute so I'd let it slide. (Tested and proven 👍)

If, miraculously, Yoshida canonically confesses to Denji, he'd probably still pine for him even if Denji turns him down, which he probably will. Yoshida realizes, after being his bodyguard for a while, that he really enjoys Denji and being around him; he'd get too attached to those feelings and still shower him with appreciation even if he knows it'll never be reciprocated. Just knowing that Denji's being given the love he deserves is enough for him, even if Denji doesn't want or care about that love. It's kinda selfish of Yoshida, but he doesn't care, all he cares about is that he likes Denji and he's willing to keep that up until he dies. -Anywayyyyy, even though they're both good in battle they're both absolute fucking losers LOL Yoshida getting thrown out the window is and will always be my favorite scene from him. Denji got called a loser by Asa, so maybe if Denji just turned his head 90 degrees after that rejection, he would've seen another loser and they could've been the most pathetic loser4loser couple in existence, it's great, c'mon Denji just accept you can like men already

-I kinda maybe kin Yoshida soooo- 💀 I mostly started kinning him for his appearance and how he's visibly deranged in part 1 LOL, but seeing his attitude towards Denji in part 2 really made me like wow he just like me fr‼ I'm sick in the head for this cute guy who is also kinda sick in the head‼ So yeah that really added to my appreciation for yoshiden LMAOSKJSDKF Ok that's all it's almost 6am and my brain is empty, maybe I'll add to this later, hopefully that answers your question anon 😁👍‼‼‼💥💥💥 I dunno if you expected an essay but BOOM, I hope I get a good score LOL

[cleric-of-jank]

broke: nayuta learning that her past incarnation was evil and making like light yagami and becoming a villain again

joke: nayuta learning that her past incarnation was evil and breaking into tears with incredible regret and remorse, then having a classic “redemption arc”

bespoke: nayuta learning that her past incarnation was evil and thinking “lmao that’s pretty funny actually”, and occasionally using makima mannerisms intentionally to creep denji/kishibe out for laughs while still being on the side of good

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Oh shit. Yogen No Nayuta.

I LITERALLY JUST POSTED THIS LMAO THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT TOO. i was kinda waiting for this to happen tbh especially since nayuta has been lifted straight out of her original one-shot. barem calling her a *witch* is a fascinating choice tbh. also the irony of denji now being chased as a chainsaw imitator..... peace is no longer possible, which was the whole point tbh. now at this point everyone will suspect one another of being a possible devil or devil contractor! chaos and horror and bloodshed! your neighbor could be a devil, so why don't you kill them first? and of course the devil hunting national exam..... sounds like a licence to kill indescriminately tbh especially now. private actors enlisted by the state to enforce violence and rule.

nayuta being designated as a main target also means that public safety can try to pressure denji into giving her up so that she is "safe" with them. i assume she'll no longer be able to go to school or have the normal life he desperately wanted her to have. he's been back into a corner just like barem AND public safety wanted it.

(also FASCINATING that barem flat out called her the former makima, which once again makes me wonder just how much nayuta knows or remembers about makima and her former incarnation... and considering denji is what she seems to care about most, and how much knowledge she has of the situation re the other horsemen..... i'm wondering what moves of her own she will be making. maybe she will grieve that possible life denji tried to give her; maybe she'll tell him she was only going through the motions to make him happy. we'll have to see)

sidenote but quanxi breaking her legs...... sick but also a brutal reminder that it's not just denji who views his body as a tool and will accept unimaginable pain as long as he can get the job done. the hybrids are absolutely key in all of this, both thematically (they *cannot die*, they are tools and objects for higher masters, they are struggling between loyalties and seem to have lost what matters most to them) and in terms of plot relevance. we didn't get reze this week either but i'm hoping she's still in the cards--it would be wild if she of all the hybrids doesn't return, especially considering her place in part 1.