#this is gross and my heart goes out to supergirl femslash shippers rn

[timelessbian]

I saw the ouat and supergirl homophobic thing you reblogged, can you tell me what both of those shows' actors did, I'm a little out of the loop 😓😬😚

okay i might not be the best person to ask bc i kind of did my best to stay out of the ouat drama when it was big and i’m not really involved with the supergirl fandom but i can tell you what i remember/gathered from my dash:

the ouat fandom has always had serious problems with the cast/showrunners ranging from being dismissive of lgbtq+ relationships to being down right disgusting and rude (mostly in relation to swan queen)

i think it was ginny who tweeted early on that the pilot of ‘once upon a time in my pants’ didn’t get picked up implying that queer relationships are - by nature - x-rated (paraphrasing bc i don’t have the actual tweet saved)

sdcc 2013 was kind of a mess all around if i remember right. jmo made an off-handed comment about how ‘all her ships were on the couch’ (it was an interview with colin and mrj i think and at this point in time sq was an extremely vocal part of the fanbase so she knew) and there was a question asked about swan queen that was answered pretty dismissively imo (here’s a link to a video bc i don’t think i could explain it well)

there was also the whole scandal with michael coleman, the guy who plays happy i think, where he went on a twitter rampage essentially claiming that the entire cast/crew was against swan queen and it was a huge joke on set (once again, i’m paraphrasing but i’m sure someone has the receipts)

i think there was also some twitter drama with yvette nicole brown who was the voice of ursula in 1 ep and she’s moderated the sdcc panels a few times. i think she went on a blocking spree or something and unironically told sq shippers they needed jesus (i’m fuzzy on this one so please correct me if i’m wrong!)

then there was the whole build-up to the queer romance that ‘had to be done right’ and ‘naturally’ and was going to be important to the storyline and then it was one ep and the characters were never seen again oops

and the lovely mulan/aurora queerbaiting too, that was fun

TL;DR: basically it was just a generally messed up atmosphere coupled with sects of fandom that were absolutely disgusting with their blatant homophobia who were empowered every time anyone on the cast said anything. it was beyond toxic tbh (although lana in particular was usually really good at being supportive!)

as for supergirl, like i said i’m not really involved in the fandom but from what i’ve gathered here’s what went down:

jeremy jordan and melissa benoist were doing a singing recap of s2 and not only did they leave out sanvers (aka a HUGE part of the hype for s2) but they also mocked supercorp shippers saying that kara and lena are just friends and that’s all they’re ever going to be (i have not watched the video myself, but it’s out there if you want to)

jj gave a total non-apology where he basically said he was an ally and it was a joke and he’s not homophobic and it was a joke and people are sending him hate so he’s the real victim here (didn’t save the image, but i’m sure it’s still making the rounds)

i guess they confirmed that sanvers is going to be sidelined bc they knew floriana lima could only do one season but they’re not breaking up so they can still pat themselves on the back for having a wlw relationship without having to show it

katie mcgrath gave a GREAT answer about supercorp, saying that it’s not up to her what people take away from her character and shippers’ interpretations are just as valid (that is not sarcasm i genuinely liked her answer)

melissa may have implied that she couldn’t be homophobic bc she was on glee?? have not seen screencaps/videos yet, but i’ve seen posts circulating. don’t know how true they are, but it sounds like something that would happen in this mess rn

TL;DR: in one fell swoop, the supergirl cast managed to alienate a huge chunk of their fanbase and seem to not even realize how/why what they said is fucked up. on top of that, they’re still minimizing their one (1) lesbian relationship while begging for cookies bc of it. (that being said, katie, david harewood, and odette annable have been lovely from what i’ve heard and even though chyler leigh wasn’t there, she’s so incredible to lgbtq+ fans too!)

tbh i didn’t believe that a cast could be more inept (to put it lightly) at dealing with their femslash fanbase than ouat, but then supergirl showed up, sang ‘hold my beer’ and here we are.

like i said, i’m not the best person to explain everything. this is all mostly personal memory/things i heard from this weekend so if anyone has more information or corrections, pls feel free to share