#this is abt this specific lazy gotcha and not about any more nuanced discussion about the role and pitfalls of a central party

[txttletale]

people who make fun of the concept of a vanguard party in the worst possible faith while also themselves holding extreme political views are very silly imo. like the classic 'uhhh so you think the proletariat are too stupid to understand their own situation??' gotcha immediately disintegrates when you realise that you could say the same thing about literally any political platform that involves propaganda, radicalisation, and organisation. if you hold political beliefs that most people don't and think it would be good if more people agreed with you then you're just as much of a vanguardist as me buddy