#this is about dr*mione btw

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HELLO?

[quillkiller]

if i see one more tiktok about ******** again im going to start killing people probably

[lunarfly]

Ok so I decided to finally post the promised: defending Romione (🥺💗💕💖💞💘) against Dr*mione (ಠಿ_ಠ) shippers.

So I've read a few posts about Dr*mione shippers, talking about why their ship is amazing (which had nothing to do with canon btw) and bashing Ron (for no reason) and I'm literally shaking out of anger.

Here are my thoughts:

1. "Ron is too dumb for hermione"

Stop- Just-

Stop.

RON IS NOT DUMB.

Yes, he might not be very interested in school subjects, but 👏 that 👏 doesn't 👏 mean 👏 he 👏 is 👏 dumb 👏.

He is actually very smart! He beat McGonagall's chess game, he is logical and quick-thinking. There's MANY examples of this that I won't name right now, but it's a canonical fact. Ron. Is. Not. Dumb.

And consider he was dumb. So? Would that stop Romione from happening? NO! Hermione didn't mind Ron not being smart. She was just upset that Ron was lazy and wouldn't study anything until the last minute. She wanted to get both Harry and Ron to study according to a schedule.

Is it clear? Intelligence doesn't determine love.

**And this is something that confuses me. This doesn't have anything to do with the point, but why does nobody realize that Harry isn't much smarter than Ron? Yes, he was better at DADA but that requires TALENT, not intelligence. And I'm pretty sure we all know that Ron is talented as well (hopefully everyone realizes that). Nobody uses the fact that Harry wasn't intelligent against Harmione, but everyone uses the fact that Ron wasn't intelligent against Romione. The double standards tear apart the fandom.

2. "Ron bought hermione perfume and Draco could get her something better."

Soooo, you're saying that just because Ron didn't have the money that Draco had means that Hermione didn't deserve Ron?

Wow, this just says a lot about you dr*mione shippers. You only care about the money that Draco has, not his personality. You don't like Ron because he's poor (and I know how FanFics give the "kind Draco" Ron's canon personality so the only "problem" with Ron is his looks and lack of money). And you don't see Hermione nor Ron the way they are. This "point" of yours is literally stating that Hermione should be a gold-digger and get Draco because he can get her the expensive presents that she deserves. Yikes.

3. "Draco can understand the emotional side of Hermione while Ron can't."

Wait

What?

WHERE DO YOU GET THIS IDEA FROM-

Draco is only EVER concerned about his own self, he is a NARCISSIST. He would NEVER care for someone (let alone Hermione) as purely and truly as he cared about himself. He didn't even care about Crabbe, Goyle, Pansy Parkinson etc. He was selfish. The only reason he could express his emotions was because he had to go through a lot since he realized that killing Dumbledore wasn't as easy as bullying Hermione. This would never ever work.

And even if Ron didn't understand her as much, he STILL comforted her. Take the beginning chapters of The Deathly Hallows as an example. You'll see.

4. "Ron is too immature."

I need help.

Of course Ron was immature when he was 11!! Yes, he acted immaturely many times, yes, he made many mistakes, but guess what? He changed! He changed for Hermione!! Draco didn't change at all, not for Hermione, nor for anyone else. He remained the same bratty bully.

If you could reread the books and read prisoner of azkaban vs deathly hallows, you will definitely see how much Ron has matured. He doesn't argue with Hermione anymore, he comforts her, he's there for her. Yes, he made a mistake but he was manipulated by the horcrux! We don't blame Ginny for what tom riddle's diary made her do, do we? So stop blaming Ron!

Anyways, I think if dr*mione shippers have read the books, they'll know what I'm talking about when I say Ron changed for Hermione. I honestly don't know how you could miss Ron's character arc.

5. "Ron would be jealous of the brilliant Hermione."

What?

If I remember correctly, the reason Draco bullied the trio was because he was jealous of them. His jealousy turned into a 7 year torture for the trio and now you're saying that Ron is the jealous one? Please.

But anyways, Ron has been jealous of Harry and has made a few mistakes. But there are reasons behind them and I can defend him for each of these with arguments other than "everyone makes mistakes" (cough cough* Draco stans* cough cough).

First of all, Ron has admitted being jealous of Harry's fame because he lives with 5 older brothers who outshine him. But that's not really a mistake because he never let it get in his way. There were only 2 situations in 7 years when he left Harry out of jealousy but I think these have different explainations.

No1 Ron left in goblet of fire. I think the real reason that Ron let his jealousy get in his way this time, was not only because Harry got to participate in the tournament which could bring him eternal glory, but more likely because he was disappointed that his own best friend didn't even tell him that he was entering and didn't even help him participate (which wasn't true, but Ron thought so back then).

No2 Ron left in deathly hallows. This one was 100% because of the horcrux and I think we should all accept this by now and stop hating on Ron for being affected by dark magic.

And just like that, Ron never let his jealousy get in his way of friendships. I can't think of a situation where Ron is jealous of the brilliant Hermione so if you remember, please let me know so I can argue against it. <3

6. "Ron and Hermione would break up and remain friends, it's easy to imagine because they didn't have a strong relationship."

This was actually said, someone actually said this-

I'm just going to say that Ron and Hermione are happily married to this day (which definitely proves that their relationship is strong) and give the dr*mione community a moment of silence.

7. "Ron didn't do anything for Hermione and was just a jerk."

Coming from a person who has read and reread the books multiple times, I can assure you that Ron did many things for Hermione.

Of course, he was immature at first, he was mean to her, but slowly he started seeing more of the good in Hermione and started changing for her.

And even when he was immature, he still cared about Hermione and would protect her no matter what.

Let's remember how many times rubbish Ron stood up for Hermione against the brilliant bully Draco. 🥰

Let's remember how cowardly Ronald faced his fears of spiders to help Hermione (and the rest of the school, just how jerkier can he get?). 🥰

Let's remember how ridiculous Ronniekins stood up for Hermione against sensational Snape and got himself into detention (oh yes, this is the book version of the movie moment where Ron agrees with Snape about Hermione being an 'insufferable know-it-all'). 🥰

Let's remember how rotten Ronny comforted Hermione when she was worried about Hagrid and Buckbeak (and he even let her hug him and cry on his shoulder, how rude). 🥰

Let's remember how revolting Ronald sacrificed himself to save Harry and Hermione in the chess game. 🥰

Let's remember how horrendous Ron attempted to hex Draco when he used a slur that was meant to offend Hermione. 🥰

Keep in mind that all of these were done when Ron was still immature and still argued a lot with Hermione.

And these aren't even all.

8. "Ron and Hermione have a loveless marriage."

What the-

I'm sorry, I'm trying to be respectful here but this is crap. And the fact that the person said they also had "proof" from the c*rsed ch*ld but didn't want to spoil it-

As much as I hate the c*rsed ch*ld, I can tell you that it did its job portraying Ron and Hermione's unconditional love. Even in alternative realities, where they didn't get married, they were still in love.

And why would you even think that Ron and Hermione would marry and have kids if they didn't love each other? I need explainations.

Next.

9. "Ron never listens to Hermione."

I'm sorry, what? I'm genuinely confused??

What do you even mean by this? Yeah, they used to argue a lot, and? Ron thinks Hermione is brilliant and wonderful and he follows her advice. I can't recall a moment where Ron won't listen to Hermione, doesn't agree with her and ruins her plans. Anyone else?

Since this one is a big mess and a confusion, I'll move on to the next one until someone explains the points and arguments.

10. "Draco could make Hermione laugh while Ron couldn't."

....

Do I really need to say anything for this one?

Ron was the funniest one from the trio, that's why Harry enjoyed his company so much! Don't you remember the line in goblet of fire where Harry thinks about how much he misses having Ron as his best friend, because without him there's less fun and less laughs? I do.

But what I don't remember is finding Draco's sense of humor funny. I'm sorry but his intellectual level is almost as low as Crabbe and Goyle's. His insults are none other than Potty and Weaselbee, he only got 3 O.W.L.s and all of his jokes were stupid and dumb and their only purpose was insulting people he was jealous of.

These fanfics have rotten people's brains...😬

Anyways, I'm going to stop here. I've delayed this post for very long and I'm so excited to finally post it!

I read a book on wattpad by a dr*mione shipper and it was nothing but a giant headache. That's where I got all of these statements from. Most of the garbage in the book revolved around Draco and Hermione being inseparable and getting over all obstacles (wth) and other stupid stuff like that which really annoyed me. The book was called "why we love dr*mione" and it was by Bittenwizard. You can read and enjoy! Trust me, you'll have lots of content to post about after that 🤠👍

*I always try to be respectful to all ships, but sometimes some of them really anger me because the ships are either toxic or the arguments are plain trash. I'm sorry if I offend anyone.

Thank you for reading this. If you're a dr*mione shipper, I hope I've convinced you to give up the ship or come up with better arguments for it.

If you're an anti-dramione I hope you enjoyed the post. I'll delight you with more anti-toxic-ships content. :)

Thank you once again! <3

[annebrontesrequiem]

So since I’ve seen a few people discussing the changes to Rina’s character in a positive light (all of these posts were btw very interesting with very good points so I’m not trying to demean anything or anyone) and since I made a very short post about it yesterday discussing my initial feelings - which were distinctly negative - I think I’m going to go over my thoughts again.

So, as I said yesterday I didn’t like the way they changed Rina’s character. I think part of it is because I find plots centered around misunderstandings really irritating - like if I have to read one more Shakespeare play centered around that I’m chucking the whole folio out the window. Another part of it however is that this volte face by Rina puts Rena in a really awkward position, a position that was already really awkward from Satoko’s decision to inject her.

So, what am I saying? From a logical perspective this change makes complete sense. It makes sense to make Rina a sympathetic character because in doing so you get to explore the ways that Satoko is completely warping the world around her, world’s that seem more and more determined to roll in Rika’s favor, so to speak. On top of that making Rina a sympathetic character also introduces a layer of complexity to Rena’s story - something that her dad slapping her also does but apparently that was in the original VN which I need to finish reading I digress. Making Rina sympathetic, willing to change to the point that she actively tells Rena this, it’s written to show how much Rena’s paranoia from Hinamizawa Syndrome is self-destructive. Rena is robbing herself of a better life by letting herself be controlled, by not reaching out to help, by simply following the programming of Hinamizawa Syndrome.

Except that doesn’t work in this case. Satoko is the one who injected Rena, to the point she’s supposed to be at L5 (which I wouldn’t say she’s at that stage based on actions but idk she’s really mentally strong I digress). This isn’t some tragedy of Rena not reaching out for help because she’s been purposefully pushed to the extreme, to the point of no return. There is no time in this arc in which Rena can take the initiative to reach out for help. Her killing Rina is no longer a symptom of the isolation that characters push themselves into by not believing in one another, it’s simply the result of Satoko’s plan.

Going back to this idea of logical perspective, because of extenuating factors, this change should work perfectly fine. Gives depth to a character, adds to the idea of how much the worlds are being manipulated by Satoko, wow we’ve covered all the bases. But the problem here is because Rina changes at the drop of a hat, because we don’t see the loops which could have driven her to change from being part of a scheme with Teppei to willingly disconnecting herself from Rena’s dad, from an emotional perspective this doesn’t work, at least not for me.

I mentioned Shion’s arc in the initial post and I think that it’s still a really good example. The reason that Shion’s arc works so incredibly well is because all the characters she deals with are fully fleshed out. We’ve seen her friends who obviously have the potential to care about each other deeply. We’ve seen the good the characters she brutally murders, and we’ve also seen their flaws. For example Mion does all in her power to help Shion escape her situation, but she is still so frozen by her place as heir that she let’s her sister’s nails get torn off for this weird idea of “taking responsibility”. Almost all the characters in Shion’s arc feel in some ways cruel, but they’re also very vibrant, and because of that her arc works so well. We can sympathize deeply with Shion while still also feeling terrible about the characters she’s murdering, understand that they were in no way deserving of being horrifically murdered.

The reason this works though is because of the literal hours of groundwork laid on all these characters. All the mundane stuff we see from their perspectives, the club games, the commenting on uniforms and names and all that (this is more specific to the VN). That’s the reason that Shion’s arc works so well. If that arc came before all the others then it would be frankly awful. It’d be hard to sympathize with either Shion or the rest of the Hinamizawa gang. It’d feel like watching some terrible person murder some other terrible people. Wow, this is every slasher film.

While Rena’s actions certainly don’t go as far as lazy slasher films, I do think it sort of taps into that similar vein. Logically I understand why this arc exists, but emotionally I just feel sort of… vaguely disapproving. I don’t feel really awful for Rina because I’m suffering from character whiplash, and I don’t feel awful for Rena cause it feels like she’s going on a rampage for no damn reason. Which yes, in the original arcs there was also no damn reason, but the slow buildup of characters and paranoia worked so well that you didn’t feel that way. Again this swings back to Satoko injecting Rena. We already saw the groundwork, but immediately turn the dial up from 10 to 100 lost all the content in between, which is sort of imperative for stuff like this in my opinion. And Rina’s quick switch makes this even worse. Not to mention that she seems to have lost braincells because someone cryptically telling you no one comes to a garbage dump while wielding something that obviously looks like a weapon just, this isn’t a slasher film please. Redeemed Rina doesn’t have to be stupid Rina please she doesn’t have to be an idiot.

As much as I also loathed Teppei’s redemption (I’m not letting that off the hook that still irritates me immensely) at least the writers did some sort of effort to show his thought process, even if that thought process was absolute nonsense. If that had been shifted to Rina’s character, maybe it would’ve worked better. I mean Rina in the original is a terrible person who literally tries to murder a child but I do hate her less than Teppei. Because Teppei, well, no redemption for him.

This is way too long so I’m going to stop while I’m ahead. I hope I explained my perspective well.

Tl;dr: This is an example of logic v emotion, planning v execution. Theoretically making Rina a sympathetic character adds a lot of depth to the story. But due to rushing, poor laid foundations, and the bias of an entire preceding, instead the attempt just falls flat. It increases my sympathy for Rina, yes, but in a sort of vague and superficial way. And as for Rena, well it’s hard to feel much for her at all that isn’t a holdover from previous emotions.

I genuinely liked the two first episodes of Sotsu and I am excited to see where this goes. But this decisions is still something I’m not wild about, and I just wish at the end of the day it had been done better. This whole thing is 2.2k words long (I’m so sorry).

[azaleablueme]

The weird kind of people you find online is crazy. A user once wrote a huge flame review for When Fate Decides calling me a Dr@mione apologist and what not and trashing the whole story. After feeling rather rotten about it, I blocked the user and went my way.  Today they resubmitted a guest review “sticking” to their “opinion” and questioning me about choice of characters and plot (a story which is free btw  and not costing them a penny) and everything- and adding how I had blocked them rather than respond to their charges?? Like seriously?! If I had that kind of time, I’d spend it updating the fic for all my amazing readers who are waiting for an update! Funniest part? they read the whole 35 chapters (130k words) worth of material to send me a trash review. The kind of free time people have is insane. smh PS: I wonder if they know that I do have a moderate option on😜 and dumped their wise words into the bin just after reading a few sentences  😂

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I’ve seen a few people who ship Luna with Blaise Zabini. I remember a fan event in which Evanna was asked about it and she said that even though she doesn’t ship it herself she understand that the good girl with a bad boy trope is appealing for a lot of people. What do you think about Luna x Blaise? And how do you see it in comparison with similar ships like Ginny x Draco or Hermione x Draco? Thank you, love your blog btw!

I suppose there is a certain amount of ‘forbidden attraction’ when it comes to that trope, but I never really understood why anyone thinks Bl*ise is a “bad boy”. He’s from a wealthy upbringing, and (while not being a death-eater) certainly gave lip-service support to pureblood-supremacy ideas.

For brevity’s sake, a “bad boy” is someone who stands up against unjust laws, breaks rules for a good cause, and sticks up the middle finger to societal structures of prejudice and inequality. 

By this way of seeing it, neither Bl*ise Z*b*ni nor Dr*co M*lfoy count as a “bad boy”.You know who does? Ron Weasley. Therefore, Ron ships are all “bad boy” ships, and Romione is a “good girl and bad boy” ship.

As for Luna x Bl*ise? No. Not as bad as some other ships, but I prefer to ship Luna with people she had good relationships with. Like Ginny, Ron or Harry. 

Ginny x Dr*co? Not my cup of tea. However, @weasleyismyking540​ likes it, and I can understand the appeal to a certain extent. Maybe it’s that sort of dynamic that Evanna meant? 

I’m pretty sure she didn’t mean Dr*mione. Because Hermione x Dr*co is problematic on so many levels. He repeatedly wished death upon her, and called her slurs. He’s not a “bad boy”, he’s a bully who hated her guts. Also, I like Hermione as a character, so I’m going to ship her with Ron (someone who actually respects her and repeatedly shows just how much he cares for her). 

 Thanks for the ask, anon! So happy you like my content!

[somecallmejohn]

Give me a character and I will answer: Ron and Hermione and Neville? (Long order, sorry!)

Ron is answered

Hermione Granger

Why I like them

She’s not the typical strong female character, she can be sensitive, but still kick your ass if you hurt her friends, she has flaws which make her more realistic as a character, she’s the smartest witch of her age but there are still things she doesn’t know and she’s not afraid to share her opinion

Why I don’t

She can be very stubborn and thinks she’s always right even when she’s not, she can be unapologetic and hardly ever own up to her mistakes, she can also force her opinion to others, flashback to the s.p.e.w. incident, but other than that I still believe she’s a great character and her flaws give her personality, which is why in the movies she seems so bland by not letting have flaws. Also I HATE it when people seem to ignore her flaws and all the bad things she did and remember only Ron’s flaws and bad moments to turn him into the abusive jerk he’s not and say that she should end up with Draco who actually is the worst for Hermione

Favorite episode (scene if movie)

The scene when she slaps Malfoy, I love that scene in the books and even more in the movies when she punches him instead of slapping him, one of the only good changes Klovesmort did

Favorite season/movie

5th probably, reading the chapter with Rita’s return and Hermione’s reactions was a satisfying experience

Favorite line

‘Don’t you dare call Hagrid pathetic, you’foul - you evil -’ for those who think that Dr*mione should be canon, btw she slaps him and then she’s about to use her wand on him, that’s what “true love” is according to them

Favorite outfit

Idk, her usual school uniform

OTP

Romione

Brotp

Idk how to answer this one

Head Canon

If she’d ever watch the movies, she would apparate to Kloves’ house and force him to read the books again and write a better script for the movies

Unpopular opinion

Hermione stans need to acknowledge her flaws and stop attacking Ron

A wish

The same as above

An oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen

Dramione being canon

5 words to best describe them

She’s great but not flawless

My nickname for them

I don’t have any

Neville Longbottom

Why I like them

Because he is a very relatable character and very brave considering that he was facing his worst fear every day for 7 years and stood up against the dark lord and his followers

Why I don’t

I don’t have a reason not to like him

Favorite episode (scene if movie)

When he declined Voldemort’s offer to join the deatheaters

Favorite season/movie

7th book, you know why

Favorite line

‘I’ll join you when hell freezes over’

Favorite outfit

Idk

OTP

Nuna, mostly cause of the movies

Brotp

Nuna and Neville x Ginny

Head Canon

He prefers muggle candy cause they’re not magic

Unpopular opinion

He’s one of the bravest characters

A wish

Idk

An oh-god-please-dont-ever-happen

Idk

5 words to best describe them

He’s braver than he thinks

My nickname for them

I don’t have any

Send me a character and I will answer

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Ew ew ewwwww apparently someone made a webseries centered around Hermione Granger having a quarter life crisis and getting with Draco Malfoy and I’ve never been so offended in my life don’t touch my girl she’s married to Ron, her best friend who she loves and who treats her with love and respect, and not to the death eater guy who bullied her for her whole adolescence and viewed her as scum because of her blood status you just guaranteed your version of her is ooc right there fuck off

[lunarfly]

The best (& the worst) argument against Harmione that any anti-harmione shipper says:

"Harry and Hermione were siblings."

Okokok I don't even know where to start and I don't even want to start because I know I won't be able to finish until I type for over 30 minutes. Btw, caps lock words aren't meant to be me yelling, but more like, me highlighting.

So, the anti-hhr army ALWAYS uses that one scene from DH as an argument against Harmione and, let me tell you, it makes no sense and shouldn't be considered as a valid point.

"She's like my sister. I love her like a sister and I reckon she feels the same way about me. It's always been like that, I thought you knew."

I have to start this with one simple question. WHAT ELSE DID YOU EXPECT HARRY TO SAY? At this point, we KNEW H/Hr wasn't going to be canon. Did you expect him to say - "oh, I'm sorry, Ron, but I'm in love with Hermione, but you can have her" - ??? Because if you did, then you should've been sure Harry and Hermione were going to be canon. But at that point, we ALL knew it wasn't. So if you had any common sense, you wouldn't be expecting that.

Now, if you were expecting him to say they were "just friends", and not "just siblings", what's the difference? In this case, there isn't really that much of a difference. And it should be very obvious to you that Harry didn't say "just friends" to Ron, because he knew that wouldn't reassure him enough - as it clearly didn't before - so he had to say something different that could completely assure Ron that Harry and Hermione didn't fancy each other. That was one of the reasons for saying "siblings" instead of "friends."

And this point should get a chance to make anti-hhr army think about their argument differently. Since they were "just like siblings", HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT A BAD THING?

This is something I GENUINELY don't understand. If they were biologically siblings, the ship would've been gross, but they weren't. Listen, HARRY AND HERMIONE WEREN'T BIOLOGICALLY SIBLINGS. And, the most shocking thing is, being as close as siblings is an AMAZING thing, and yet the anti-hhr army still somehow turn it against harmione! Harry and Hermione were as close as siblings, they trusted each other like SIBLINGS, they cared about each other like siblings, they loved each other like siblings, they shared a special bond stronger than any other, they were so comfortable with each other and so close that they were like siblings!! PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS NEGATIVE TO THE SHIP BECAUSE IT ONLY P R O V E S THE STRENGTHS OF THE SHIP!

HEAR ME OUT, whoever was the first one to use this against Harmione was a complete dumbhead and didn't even think what he/she was saying nor what he/she was trying to prove! Seriously, what DO you want to prove? How is being as close as siblings affecting the ship negatively? If Harry and Hermione loved each other like siblings, there was an even stronger chance they'd end up falling in love with each other due to their extraordinary bond! Having a sibling-like bond is NOWHERE NEAR BAD for the ship. If you think that loving each other like siblings would stop them from loving each other romantically, YOU'RE WRONG, because the only thing their sibling-like love brings them, is an even more powerful bond and stronger trust & care!

PLEASE think twice before you say something, because you can make yourself look like a complete idiot. Don't randomly repeat other people's points just because you WANT to agree with them. You need to be rational and actually think about the positives & the negatives about ships (and everything else in life tbh) before you share your opinion about it!

For example, I ship Romione, and I see so many flaws in the ship, and I won't deny their relationship wasn't absolutely perfect. That's what makes me a true shipper and not a fake one just screaming "Romione is flawless" without thinking.

I DON'T ship Dr*mione, because it's toxic, abusive, etc, I won't go into details. I do see that the shippers are trying to be "creative, outside-the-box-thinkers" and think they could have great chances if Draco changed, but the negativity of the ship completely overshadows the positive fantasies of it. And that is what makes me the opposite of a nine-year-old hater who just screams "DR*MIONE IS POOP" without thinking nor using logical arguments.

And about Harmione, my OTP, I can also see the positives and negatives. Like, when Harry didn't expect Hermione to look so gorgeous at the ball and even his jaws dropped(Although that was a mix of Harry's shock of the surprise AND Hermione's beauty too)! But the positives of h/hr are SO MUCH stronger than those teeny lil negative details of the ship that there's almost no chance you can use the little details against them.

So, if you have a 100% positive/negative opinion on a ship, PLEASE think twice because there's ALWAYS flaws and greatness.

And, if you're going to state a point against any ship, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE P L E A S E think before you say it, because often you can be proven very wrong (like in this paragraph). If there's many arguments against your point, reconsider stating it, because it will only make you look like an idiot, and you may even become the leader of the army who states opinions without thinking. Just like the person who first thought it was a good idea to use Harmione's WONDERFUL, even SIBLING-LIKE, bond against them.

Thank you for reading this paragraph. If you are a fellow defender of Harmione, then you're welcome for having your eyes & brain blessed! Please, reblog it to spread the word and hopefully convince others to ship Harry and Hermione!

If you're a part of the anti-harmione army, then I really hope I managed to at least make you think about this topic, if not convince you to abandon it.

And, once again, thank you for reading! Follow for more similar posts with opinions including logical points & arguments! :)