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2024 Miami Grand Prix Race Analysis

My analysis of the Miami 2024 Grand Prix. There is a lot to cover so let’s not waste time with introductions.

Table of Contents Race Start Ferrari -Charles -Carlos: His race + Oscar -Data Analysis Mclaren -Lando: Safety Car -Oscar -Data Analysis VCARB Red Bull Mercedes -Lewis Haas -Kevin Williams -Alex -Logan: DNF Final Thoughts

Race Start

We finally have a spicy turn 1 (really a race start) incident to talk about! I have to start with this because this did set the stage for the entire first stint of the race, and really the second half as well because of Oscar’s placement.

At the very start of the race Checo barreled forward basically trying to cut ahead of both Ferraris. He went way too fast and almost hit Max going into turn 1.

It’s actually just impressive that he didn’t hit anyone and that Charles and Carlos didn’t have a crash either with each other or with Checo. Checo dropped from P4 down to P5 with that maneuver.

He was way too ambitious with this start. Obviously he had to come out aggressive and the ultimate goal would be to get ahead of both Ferraris, but trying to jump them both? Way too much all at once and that is what cost him. He should have stuck with simply trying to pass Carlos, then he’d have been able to work on catching Charles. But instead he overshot, lost places and Oscar was the one who benefited greatly from it, jumping from P6 to P3.

So Oscar was the main winner of the whole situation, and the two drivers who lost places were Checo and Carlos.

There are two main reasons this wasn’t penalized. 1. It was the race start and turn 1 and the stewards are always more lenient with first lap messes like this. 2. It didn’t cause a collision. If a collision had occurred Checo would have been at fault, but everyone was very lucky, so no penalty.

With the stage set let's dig in to what went down with all the teams.

Ferrari

Charles

Charles had a very impressive weekend. After missing all of free practice due to spinning out(due to losing traction on a turn) he then went straight into sprint qualifying and pulled off P2 which he held in the sprint. He then qualified P2 again in the race and finished P3. All of this without having any free practice to get his setup optimized for the track. This really speaks to the SF-24 base being reliable as well as Charles’ overall skills on track.

He actually had a very clean race all things considered. His pace was not as strong as Oscar so he lost that place pretty early in the race and dropped to P3 behind Oscar and Max and he kept that place for the rest of the race. He pit early because the medium tyre was good on the SF-24 this weekend. They pit Charles early to undercut Oscar(which they did, and that was needed as Oscar was faster on the mediums) After that his hard tyre management was insanely good, He finished in the top 3 with the oldest set of hard tyres. He was able to keep pace with Max on tyres that were 4 laps older. And considering this is still the base SF-24 while the RB20 has already been upgraded is a really strong showing from the car itself.

Overall a very strong weekend from Charles and the SF-24 again showing that the Ferrari base is strong.

More on his race performance in the data section.

Carlos

Carlos qualified P3, finished the race in P4 and was dropped down to P5 after he was given a 5 second penalty for making contact with Oscar. Obviously this was his worst result so far this year, it isn’t 100% his fault, the race order changed in such a way that was not in his favor and there wasn’t much he could have done there. So the loss of one place was not his direct fault, just unlucky. The other palace due to the penalty that was at least in part his fault and I will get into that more in the section going over his battle with Oscar.

So after we saw qualifying results I said that the best strategy for Ferrari was for Charles to attack Max and Carlos to defend against Checo who was behind him in P4. Well Checo made that impossible with the race opening. Not much Carlos or anyone could have done about that, so it would have been a good strategy but Checo had other plans. Cannot fault him for that, good thing he was able to get out of the way to avoid a collision. I am suspecting Checo was super aggressive to try to counter that potential Ferrari strategy. But yeah Carlos couldn’t have done anything to stop Checo from doing that.

But also this is to say that right out of the beginning of the race Carlos was set up for a very different race than I think he was anticipating. I’m sure that defending against Checo was probably what Ferrari had prepared him for, but that race opening really changed the order and altered his strategy for the rest of the race.

I’ll just briefly mention Carlos’ radio message near the beginning when he came up behind Charles. He said he felt like he had the better pace, and Ferrari didn’t give any orders. This is mostly just talking. And I think it’s also fine for a team to just let it be. If he had better pace he’d be able to get ahead. He didn't, thus it wasn’t an issue. I feel like any team staying silent when a driver says something like this is like “okay you have better pace prove it” and we saw how that went. He and Charles were very close on pace with fresh tyres. But the difference became clear as the tyres aged. Charles stayed ahead and Carlos steadily dropped off. I don’t think it’s a big deal, normal for a driver to say they have better pace, normal to ignore it unless it’s actually true.

I don’t really care about radio messages unless they actually lead to something changing about a race. Driver’s talk all the time, only if it leads to results does it really matter so I don’t think any of it is worth covering.

Carlos VS Oscar

I am going to ask both Carlos and Oscar fans to take a deep breath going into this section.

One of the main battles on track this race was between Oscar and Carlos for P4. Oscar gained track position pretty early in the race when Checo did that crazy move in turn 1. He was able to jump up to P2 and passed Max in the pits to take P1 for a while.

He lost the positions in the pits and then the safety car for Logan made it odd to try to regain, which put him one place ahead of Carlos. Then Carlos overtook and got behind Oscar. This is when the battle began and where trouble cropped up.

Oscar and Carlos were pretty much matched on pace. Carlos was slightly more consistent in pace, but they were very close. Which is what made this a tight battle. It’s what allowed Carlos to catch up to Oscar and what made Oscar able to defend.

So this was always going to be messy. And it did in fact get messy.

I think that most of what happened between Oscar and Carlos falls under the "good hard racing" category. I think there is an argument to be made that neither were deserving of a penalty. But if you want insight into why the stewards made the calls they did then this is it.

First I will cover the move that Carlos was handed a penalty for by the stewards. On lap 39 turn 17 Carlos missed the apex, braking late which caused him to slightly lose the rears of the car. This resulted in his tyres hitting Oscar’s front wing. This was not something Carlos could have done intentionally, and was instead a result of slight loss of control of the car. He didn’t do it on purpose; it was a result of driver error on his part. So yes he was at fault but it was not due to him intentionally trying to cause Oscar damage.

Going into the turn Oscar has the outside line, Carlos has the inside, Carlos is slightly ahead here just so we are clear.

They start the turn, there is space between them. However this is where Carlos started to turn a little too late.

And here is where the contact came. Carlos broke too late and when he needed to take the apex he missed, slowing too quickly caused him to lose the rears slightly, and thus he turned into Oscar's rear wing. Oscar was driving under the assumption that Carlos had not misjudged the apex and that he would keep control. So there wasn't anything Oscar could have done. But also I want to highlight that this isn't a move that could have been done on purpose. It was an error on Carlos' part yes, but it was not intentional.

I would also argue that Oscar turned in too sharply, or didn’t react in time to Carlos’ error on the apex. Had he not been so close he wouldn’t have been hit. I think this is the reason the stewards only gave a partial penalty to Carlos. I do agree that Oscar was too close. But he ultimately isn’t at fault.

I think this looked worse than it is because both drivers were racing very hard against each other up until this point so it’s easy to believe that one or both did something intentional. I think it was a result of them battling closely and slight error on Carlos’ part.

Causing contact is deserving of a penalty.

Now let’s look at the incident where Oscar forced Carlos off the track. Going into the turn Oscar came up the inside and pushed Carlos out and Carlos ended up with all 4 wheels off the track. However there is nuance here so let’s take a look at the footage.

Going into the turn Carlos has the clear outside line, Oscar has the inside. Oscar is ahead.

This is where the beginning of trouble started. Oscar still clearly has the inside line. Carlos has plenty of room on the outside, but he turned in more.

And then continue to turn in to squeeze Oscar giving him nowhere to go is why Oscar had to fight back and push Carlos out. The fact they didn't have damage here is impressive really.

But Oscar was on his line, he was ahead had the inside line and defended it. Carlos ran wide as a result of this defense. Oscar did not push him all the way off the track just because.

Both of these are hard racing moves and I think that because they both were very pushy with each other was the reason no penalty was given to Oscar.

Personally I am on the fence about whether this is deserving of a penalty on Oscar’s part. He did force Carlos completely off the track. He had the inside line and he’s allowed to protect it, but was this too far? It falls in a gray area for me. I think that Carlos closing him off in that turn didn’t give him much choice so I am not going to be too mad no penalty was given. But I can see why someone would make a different call as well.

Now I think this is a penalty that could be debated. However, regardless of the actual penalty, what I do not love is the half measure from the stewards, reducing Carlos' penalty down to five seconds when the new rules say this kind of thing should be 10 seconds. Is he at fault or not? It should be a 10 second penalty or no penalty, I don’t like this very situational precedent this is setting. As a Ferrari fan I am biased toward no penalty. But I think we can all agree that this was an odd choice and doesn’t inspire any confidence in the stewards’ decision here(not that they had much good faith to begin with)

I read their reasoning and I don’t think it’s strong enough to warrant splitting the time. If Carlos is at fault(and based on their decision in their eyes he is) then it should be a 10 second penalty.

My hope is that this kind of ruling does not come up again in future races.

I want to quickly dispel some narratives forming around this battle between them.

“Carlos ruined Oscar’s race, he admitted it!”: Yes and no. Was Carlos responsible for Oscar’s damage and him dropping all those places? Yes. But did he do it on purpose? No. Carlos is notoriously unreliable in interviews. I have no idea why he thought it was a better look to imply he did it on purpose than to say he made a mistake in the turn and lost the rear slightly. So no he did not intentionally turn into Oscar with his rear tyres to cause Oscar damage. “Oscar should have got a penalty”: There is a case to be made for that. I am not the stewards so I can’t change that. They decided not to give a penalty. You really have to take it up with the FIA as it’s not Oscar’s fault he didn’t get a penalty. It’s certainly a fringe case with arguments for the case for a penalty on both sides.

As far as Carlos overall race goes he was quite fast(in the race), he was competitive against the other fastest car and again he was just showing how strong that SF-24 base is. He was able to fight with Oscar who was faster and in an upgraded car. So even though his race looked messy there was a lot of promise there and he showed again that the SF-24 is doing good things for both our Ferrari drivers. I was impressed to see him keeping up on pace like that.

Data Analysis

I have a lot of comparisons to make as far as both Ferraris go. There were a lot of interesting on track battles in terms of pace and tyre management. All looks really promising for Ferrari.

First a quick look at Oscar’s fastest lap Vs Carlos.

Very close. They were essentially matched on pace in the first two sectors. Where Carlos lost the time to Oscar was on the low speed corners in sector 3. This has been an area where the SF-24 has been underperforming, so this isn’t a surprise. But this mainly shows why the battle between them went on as long as it did, and also why things came to a head on those low speed corners. That is where Oscar had the edge on pace and is also a place for overtaking. So Carlos had to push more and Oscar obviously was still able to stay within striking range.

The main battle for Charles in this race was against Max. And pace-wise he was matching him. The reason that Charles didn’t close the gap further was because he had some bad laps and Max was slightly more consistent in his second stint lap time wise. Overall pace was practically identical to Max in the RB-20 which is what we want to see, especially since Red Bull has already upgraded Max’s car and the SF-24 is still the base.

Here is Charles full race pace against Max. This is the closest they have been all year. Very promising to see. Especially on the hards. Charles was on older hards but still beating Max on pace.

It is worth noting that Max was not 100% comfortable in the car so he was not in top form this weekend, but that just shows that the RB20 is not infallible, the operating window for the car seems narrower, and Max also isn’t perfect.

Overall Charles was stronger consistently and that put him ahead of Max in performance on many laps. If Max hadn't had track position he likely would not have been able to catch Charles.

Now here is a look at the race pace for the top 3.

The top 3 very very close in pace, like the difference is negligible, especially considering Max and Charles were on slightly older tyres (and Max had some slight damage due to the cone) but this is very close and means very good things for Ferrari as it’s the only car here that has yet to bring any upgrades. If upgrades bring what Ferrari expects then Red Bull and Mclaren should be nervous.

Here is a fastest lap comparison for the top 3. Lando had the fastest lap of the three, but the difference between him and Charles was by one tenth, and Charles set his fastest lap on significantly older tyres. Max was the furthest off by 3 tenths to Lando and 2 tenths to Charles.

The reason Max was ahead of Charles was because of track position. Charles was faster, but the pace difference wasn’t enough for him to catch Max for the overtake. But this is a good sign for when Charles does have track position over Max. And again that is against the upgraded Mclaren. The SF-24 is such a solid base.

Also let’s look at Carlos against all of the top 3 as well. He actually had the fastest lap of this grouping(fastest lap of the race was Oscar) He was faster than Lando by a few hundredths which is close, but he was faster. One thing to really highlight between Carlos and Lando is that the only points where Lando is faster is those low speed corners. Something the SF-24 must address to catch Mclaren in the future. But also notice how those same low speed corners are where Charles was better compared to Carlos as well.

And finally adding Oscar for the full Ferrari to Mclaren comparison as well as Max.

Oscar really did have a great lap, and it was on those fresh medium tyres which is why his time is faster by 3 tenths than the others. While the other four were on older tyres for their best laps. However the most interesting thing to note is how Ferrari and Mclaren are extremely close. The overlap is everywhere and the gap is so fine. The car who is the odd one out is the Red Bull and that’s very promising for the rest of the season as far as Ferrari is concerned. The highlight here is that Ferrari and Mclaren were the fastest cars this weekend and it was close, way closer than the race results might suggest.

Now let's talk about tyres. Charles finished his race on 38 lap old hards. The oldest of the other top 4 drivers.

Here is the first stint pace on the medium tyres for the race. This is when the tyres were most subject to the same conditions and you can see the pace that was the most similar was Charles and Max. Not only that but they were the two drivers reducing their laps times, instead of steadily increasing. This is where you can see why Carlos fell away behind Charles, and also why Lando was not making much headway in catching Checo.

Charles had improved by roughly 7 tenths to a full second of pace by the time he pit. Max stayed on pace similar to Lando. So again we see Charles pulling off negative tyre deg(minimal but still noteworthy) compared to his direct competition as well as his teammate. Lando's laps were very consistent, that obviously came up in the second half of the race. Carlos pushed hard but dropped off on pace(as we'd expect to see with normal deg) He really pushed but he'd already lost the time to Charles in the middle of the stint and wasn't able to gain it back. Still one of the better tyre performances we've seen from Carlos as well. The fact that both Ferraris are the strongest here is again due to the SF-24 and the way the car treats the tyres.

The main reason Ferrari pit Charles after this was to try to undercut Oscar, it was not due to a drop off in the tyre performance. Since he was pushing I don't think they'd have lasted as long as we've seen in the past from Charles, but there was more in them. The pit was strategic not due to a loss of pace on Charles' part.

It was not possible to really correct for the mess that was the safety car and to correct for the age of the tyres. At least not in a way I was satisfied with. Each of the top 4 drivers were in different places when it came to those hards. The best comparison is to Max and Charles was beating him on pace in older hards(see Charles vs Max race pace graph above). And Charles was pushing in those tyres so he wasn't even driving 100% to preserve them, because of the safety car Ferrari had to balance pushing to keep ahead and also to save the tyres. Charles pulled this off beautifully. Taking this stint on the hards from the race re-start on lap 33 after the yellow flag.

I will show the raw data for the top three to see the over all tyre deg but I wanted to make sure that everyone considers context. I did not include Carlos here because he was battling Oscar so his times are going to reflect that more than his tyre management.

The thing to note is Charles lap consistency has not fallen off, even when compared to the other two top drivers, especially Lando who was on 10 lap newer tyres. Charles final lap was off Lando by one tenth. You would not know he was on tyres that were 10 laps older. An insane showing in terms of tyre management from him yet again. So far in 2024 I can say with confidence that Charles has been the best in tyre management. The SF-24 has been amazing in this area and that ability in the car is only highlighted when Charles is behind the wheel.

Overall this race showed just how strong the SF-24 base is yet again, it was able to keep up with both Max in the RB20 and the Mclarens which had brought big upgrades to this race. Both Carlos and Charles were competitive against the fastest cars and this is very promising for what the SF-24 is set up to do once it is upgraded. Overall Ferrari was the second fastest car this weekend and that was by a very fine margin. Exciting things for both Ferrari drivers and for the car base itself.

Not Ferrari’s strongest weekend obviously, but the data gathered gives a lot of valuable insight, and also both driver’s secured placements to keep Ferrari in a comfortable P2 in the standings, and for Charles to be P3 in the WDC behind the Red Bulls.

Mclaren

Before we get to the Mclaren section I would like to remind you dear reader that this is a Ferrari blog, my bias is very clear, do not expect me to celebrate a Mclaren victory. I will analyze the facts fairly, but do not come at me for not being excited or hyping things up. I am not the person for that. Our teams have a long standing rivalry and I have made my place in that rivalry very clear.

With all that being said let’s talk about Mclaren.

Lando

Lando Norris won his first grand prix after taking the lead of the race as a result of a safety car deployment on lap 28. He started P6 and finished P1.

Now this win was due to a few factors. First Lando had the fastest pace of the race(on the hard tyres), and second he was the only driver who benefited from that safety car. He was ahead of the pack and on newer tyres compared to every competitive car behind him(Max, Charles, Carlos, Oscar). He drove well and his pace was fastest by a fine margin, but we have to account for the fact that a good amount of luck put him at the front of the field.

He was behind Checo in P6 having made no places up in the race, then Checo pit, and Carlos and Charles pit, then Max pit, and Oscar pit the lap before him. He gained every place through the pits. Then on lap 28 the safety car was deployed in front of every car behind him. Since he pit lap 27 he effectively got the benefit of a safety car pit which can see gains of 5 - 7 seconds, and if we look at the margin he ended up winning the race by this is reflected, yes his pace was better but it wasn’t create a magical 7 second gap better. In fact due to that lucky pit timing he got the benefit of a full safety car pit without having to serve the time in the pits. Not his fault he was lucky, but that does account for his placement and the gap he finished with, has nothing to do with pace.

This win was mostly on the fact that he was insanely lucky both on the timing of his pit, and the timing and placement of the safety car. He didn’t take any of those positions. And I am fairly confident that had that safety car not been deployed at that time he wouldn’t have. He may have come in P3 but he was not on track to be able to overtake all of those cars in front, even with faster pace. The only thing that can be really said skill wise for this drive was he did have the fastest pace(the second stint is due to the fact he was on much newer tyres than the two cars behind) and that he didn’t crash or spin out after he was given the lead of the race. A win is a win but this was mostly due to an insane amount of luck that has nothing to do with the actual race craft. He was on fresher tyres so of course he got a better start at the race restart. It’s not as hard to defend against a car that has been damaged and two cars on older tyres.

I would have liked to get to see how he fared trying to overtake Max, but maybe we will see that in a future race. I also am sure he wouldn’t have been able to overtake Charles. Lando was also faster in Australia, by a similar margin in fact, and he wasn’t able to catch Charles, let alone pass him. So to assume just because he had the slightly faster pace that he would have won without that insane luck is very misguided.

Without the safety car I am not convinced he would have won or even been on the podium(but speculating isn’t really too helpful there is no way to be sure) I will note that since Max was struggling more for grip and thus pace this weekend I actually think that had the safety car not occurred the P1 battle might have been Piastri vs Leclerc. Because guess what, being the fastest car does not automatically mean you win the race, yes he was fastest but he was stuck behind Checo for 17 laps and made no progress overtaking. So that speed wasn’t really doing anything for him back there(of course he was subject to dirty air) but if he couldn’t overtake Checo the second Red Bull it is reasonable to assume he was not going to be able to overtake Max. We know with a similar pace match up he couldn’t take Charles either. If the safety car hadn’t happened there Oscar would have had the leading Mclaren position, and we did see that he can pass Charles, and he would have had a better chance against Max. I entertain this just to highlight that the speed can be there all it wants but the race craft skill was not there this weekend and it certainly did not play a significant role in the win.

But again it’s impossible to say. Speculating is only so productive. However I think it is interesting to see how things might have played out taking the need to overtake into account.

The positioning was due to the safety car. The reason he stayed in P1 was because he could keep the gap to Max(who was on older tyres) and Charles(who was on even older tyres) His pace was faster, but by on average of 2-hundredths of a second to Max and Charles. That is not really enough for him to have won the race without gaining that P1 position with the safety car. And that pace gap does not explain why he finished with a 7 second gap, that was the safety car.

And here’s the thing, wins happen like this. He absolutely had the winning pace but that was due to being in P1 due to the safety car(he would not have been there otherwise) and thus he had newer tyres than the cars directly behind him, which on this track in the heat was a big advantage. A win is a win so putting it all in context should not be an issue. We aren’t here to celebrate, we are here to see what happened.

Winning a race usually does have some elements of luck, being able to pull off a win is being able to take advantage of that luck when it happens. That’s what happened with Lando. He got very lucky with some elements of the race and was able to drive to take full advantage of that.

All in all an interesting race for Mclaren.

Oscar

I already covered Oscar’s battle and contact with Carlos in the Ferrari section. So this is just going to cover the other elements of his race this weekend.

Tyre deg has been Oscar’s main weakness when it comes to overall pace in his driving. This weekend he was driving pretty hard and still managed to have good speed which means he’s improved and also the car has probably improved to account for that as well.

He set the fastest lap from P19 which was pretty entertaining to see. The reason he was able to do this was due to the fact he had to pit for a new nose after the contact with Carlos damaged his front wing. He got fresh medium tyres and was able to really set a good fast lap. He also set it without DRS so that speaks to his speed this weekend(and looks promising as far as the car upgrades he did have go).

The fact that the damage he took happened so late in the race meant he just didn’t have the time to climb the field. He made up some places but there just wasn’t enough time. Had this happened earlier I have no doubt he would have finished in the top 10.

Oscar raced well and his speed was very good, he was very unlucky that the damage to his car required a pit at a very bad time in the race.

Even though this result is obviously disappointing, I do think it showed what Oscar can do, and we are going to see a lot more battles and speed from him in future races.

I will finish this section with the fact that to me the most impressive bit of driving from a Mclaren driver all weekend was Oscar managing to take full advantage of the chaos Checo caused in turn 1 at the race start and jumping up 2 places. Like he saw the line and took it. As far as actually racing against other cars goes in a Mclaren, Oscar has been showing to be stronger in this area. He overtook Charles and that is impressive. If Max hadn’t pitted when he did we might have gotten to see if Oscar was able to take him as well. Lando had the pace(by a small margin to Oscar only on the hards, Oscar's pace on mediums was better than Lando), but I think Oscar is winning in terms of managing his on track battles. The data for Oscar is also skewed because he was stuck fighting with Carlos and then took damage so the statistics of his pace show him being much slower than Lando, when on that first stint Oscar was faster. Without the bad luck on his part I think he would have finished ahead of Lando in the race.

Data Analysis

So I first want to do a teammate comparison. It is of course important to note that Lando had the full Mclaren upgrade package and Oscar only had half. How that really affected their results is still hard to say.

But here is their race pace. I really think we can only compare the first stint on the mediums, because after Oscar’s battle with Carlos hindered him, and after he took damage his pace was really not going to be its best.

That first stint Oscar is actually consistently faster on pace until around lap 18 when Lando passes him in that department. I think this comes down to tyre management. Lando is better than Oscar in that area, but pace wise Oscar had it on the mediums for the race start, and he was showing it with the passes he was making.

The takeaway for me is two-fold. The Mclaren upgrades have added speed. And that I think a head to head of Lando vs Oscar in the right conditions Oscar may have the edge. If he continues to work on his tyre management we may see him pass Lando on pace altogether. Remains to be seen. But overall this is very close for both of them, so they were both getting a lot of good performance out of that car this weekend.

Here is a comparison of their fastest lap.

I want to note that Oscar set this after getting a fresh set of mediums after he took front wing damage. He still showed that he was the strongest I think in all of sector 3 all race. That is where the Mclaren car was beating the Ferraris and the Red Bulls, and that is also where Oscar was outperforming Lando. Lando was on much older tyres, so he didn’t have as good of a chance to be able to set a really clean lap this race. But I think that before Oscar was dealing with Carlos and was damaged he was still faster so I think he still would have set a faster lap to Lando in equal conditions this race.

VCARB

Probably VCARB’s best weekend overall as a team. With Danny bringing in his first points of the season coming in P4 during the sprint and Yuki coming in P7 in the race they got a good chunk of points for the team. And in the midfield that means a lot. They have really cemented themselves as the top of the midfield by a pretty good margin.

Danny of course got the best result we’ve seen so far, with that P4 in the sprint, he defended against Carlos in a Ferrari the entire race and scored his first points of the season.

Now he started P20 in the race because he had to serve a 3 place starting grid penalty from China. He qualified P18. So you might be wondering why Danny was seemingly on fire for the sprint and sprint qualifying but then seemed to be slow again in the race qualifying. The answer is that changing a car from sprint set up to race setup can be pretty big and if they don’t get it right it can be costly. We saw the same thing with Lewis in China, P2 in the sprint and then back to the middle of the pack during the race.

Were it not for that grid penalty he likely would have finished the race just outside the points. Danny started P20 and finished P15 so he did make up some good places.

Yuki had a good weekend, coming in P8 in the sprint and getting that single point and then P7 in the race with another 6 points, he is still very much the more consistent of the two drivers in the VCARB car as far as bringing in the points goes. Like he is now in P10 in the driver standings with 14 points, behind Lewis Hamilton who is in 9th with 27 points.

All in all a good weekend for VCARB and I must say they did have the nicest looking car on the grid as well.

Red Bull

This was Max’s worst actual race so far this year. In Australia he had to DNF due to a mechanical failure, nothing to do with his driving. Here he for sure made some mistakes. Some of that was due to car setup, and some of that was some error on his part. Either way it’s his weakest performance since Singapore 2023. Still to say this and have him still be in P2 and P1 in the sprint shows just how strong of a driver he is.

What cost him the most was when he didn’t have grip going into turn 16, cut the corner and took out the bollard cone. This cost him time, and some slight floor damage. Due to an error, as well as the lack of grip the RB-20 was struggling with all weekend. I think he’d have been a little faster were it not for this damage.

To come in P2 as a weak showing with a car that was clearly not setup well all weekend just shows how fast the RB-20 is and also speaks to Max's skill as a driver.

Checo’s race wasn’t great. That start was way too much, but after that he kept his head down and didn’t cause more trouble. He finished P5 but jumped up to P4 after Carlos received that 5 second penalty. His weakest race so far this year as well.

All in all for Red Bull both their drivers were not in top form this weekend. That does indicate that the RB-20 was not performing as well on this track and in these conditions. Interesting to see and promising for any team hoping to catch up to them in the standings.

Mercedes

This was Mercedes second best race of the season. Lewis was finally comfortable in the car and came in P6 after starting P8. George started P7 and finished P8. Not George’s best race or performance, but as a team this result this is overall the second best points wise since Bahrain.

Lewis especially put in a great showing. His overtake on Nico was a memorable moment, just a textbook Hamilton overtake, smooth, just great to see him racing after that car has been letting him down so much this season.

Also this is the first race where Lewis outperformed George. He obviously did in the China sprint, but this is the first Grand Prix where he was ahead of George. This may be a sign that he has found some solutions to the issues he’s been facing with his car setup, or possibly conditions were more favorable for him on track. He’s Lewis so I am thinking this is part of a slow but steady comeback to doing the best possible in that car. Make no mistake the current Mercedes car is limiting both drivers. But it’s had moments of getting to the top 5 or at least not far from the top 5 so there is more to unlock in that car.

Haas

Haas in the sprint was funny. I’m sorry the strategy was the same as Jeddah, Kevin commits crimes and doesn’t care about penalties so long as he holds up the field to protect Nico so Nico can get points. It worked in Jeddah. Worked in the sprint, and worked in the race. It’s certainly an interesting strategy.

Now with all the penalties Kevin has collected this weekend and the rest of the season if he gets one more he will have enough penalty points to be suspended for a race. Obviously not great for him or for Haas but he doesn’t seem too worried about that.

Haas has been working well as a team and really taken up all the minor points at the tail end of the field. The teamwork has really paid off.

Is completely sacrificing one driver and letting him run rampant across the track a good long term approach? Probably not. But there aren’t any rules against it. If Haas are willing to do it to get points then I guess fair play. It’s mostly just really entertaining to watch. Yes it has messed up a lot of driver’s races so far this season, but you cannot deny it has made for entertaining moments and battles.

His most egregious crime was when he made contact with Logan during the race causing Logan's DNF. Obviously the penalty was deserved, he did not have position going into that corner and Logan was powerless to do anything about it.

I will agree with Kevin and say “All of the penalties were well deserved”

I do have the theory that Kevin is going for an all time record for most penalty points accumulated during a single race, a single season, and all of F1 history, and he’s actually on track to get at least one of those records. So if he wants to be remembered for his crimes on track this is certainly a way to do it. Best of luck to him in that endeavor!

Kevin Magnussen was the most entertaining driver of the weekend. Love him or hate him he had your attention.

Williams

Williams had the worst race as a team. Alex was struggling in the car all weekend including during the race getting one of his worst placements finishing P18. The Williams car has been bad all season, we knew that, but on this track the race setup they went with was also not great.

Logan actually got Williams best result all season with that P10 in the sprint race. No points, but given how the car and team have struggled showing that the car can get into P10 is something.

However during the race Logan DNFed due to a collision with Kevin. Kevin was at fault, he charged through the turn and forced Logan off the track. Logan had the line and hadn’t done anything wrong. Kevin was just being reckless and took that turn way too sharply.

Logan was sent into the barrier and had to retire. Extremely unfortunate considering it was his home race. His radio messages indicated that he was injured, likely biting his lip or his tongue during the crash. Hopefully he recovers quickly.

It was a shame because Logan was on pace to have his best weekend of 2024, and it was ended through no fault of his own driving.

Final Thoughts

This was another very interesting race. Some spicy on track battles, a maiden win for Lando, and Ferrari was strong on track against the other two top teams.

All in all an entertaining race.

See you all at Imola!

#lucis race analysis #miami gp 2024 #charles leclerc #formula 1 #f1 #long post

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itsblasttothepast · 2 months ago

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Why do you like Max? He was horrible to Checo, the way his family spoke about him was so awful, I can't understand how Checo fans can like this guy

Oh anon, this is a very complicated question, because like many Checo fans in 2022, I also hated Max back then.

But it will be a long, long, LONG rant, so click under if you want to enter this particular rabbit hole:

Before they were teammates, Max was just another driver in my radar (as you are asking for my PoV, which is clouded as a Checo fan), nothing to notice there except a few interaccions with Checo; I was very surprised in Turkish 2020 because I thought Max would go for blood when Checo made him spin around twice (minute 1:20 of this video). But nope, at the end they even chatted and everything (a small Chestappen seed was planted since Monza 2017 and it had been growing with these interactions).

Anyway, when Checo became Max teammate, the contract was clear: He was there to succeed in what other teammates failed: helping Max winning the championship and take the heat of the team.

And he did, during 2021 they were working hard for that championship, and bonded really well, they seemed to get along great, share some sort of weird sense of humor and they were really nice to each other.

But in 2022, Checo thought that since he already fulfilled the requirement for 2021, he could fight for the championship in 2022. That led to straining the relationship with Max, and all that tension boiled over in Brazil. It was messy, and yes, Max was an asshole back then because they weren't fighting for the podium, and Checo needed the points. But what came after was the worst part because the declarations from both Checo and Max, and the Max's mom getting involved with the cheating thing... honestly I don't know how they managed to finish the season without killing each other.

Most Checo fans said that Max tried to make up with Checo in the 2022 Honda Racing Thanks day thing; all I noticed was Checo with the fakest smile he could put for the cameras. PR to the bone. I mean, they had Marc Márquez there to be a buffer, along with Yuki and Pierre, you could see it in the pictures:

They had Marc there to keep Max chatty:

You could see how far apart they were in the group picture (far apart for what they have us accustomed to):

(they left space for Jesus)

Also Max said he would help Checo in the last race of the season, but that was just adding salt to the wound.

Checo had just renewed contract, so we thought he would get the boot because obviously RBR was keeping Max, the one expendable was (and is) Checo. For some reason, they decided instead of doing that, to try and smooth over the situation. Checo apologized for his statements to the press and said it was all good with Max, and they had couples therapy.

No, really, they hired a 'mediator' or something like that, to help them regain the camaraderie of 2021. But instead, they fell in love and got really close. However, RBR had their plan B, bringing Ricciardo as the third driver in case things didn't work out (in fact, this is why we thought Checo was out of the team for 2023, we were looking options, seeing which teams needed drivers... wild times).

So, when Max did the Brazil thing, obviously Checo fans hated him and wanted his head, I remember people not even in the F1 fandom hating him (still butthurt about the world cup and the 'no era penal' thing). I particularly thought it was a dick move, but also kind of understood where Max was coming from. He was raised for glory, totally different to Checo who practically raised himself since he was 15. Checo and Max families are also vastly different, and the culture as well. So I hated him but not really?

So during 2023 I saw Max changing and being more mature, calmer, softer sometimes. He wasn't a bad person, he just made mistakes like any human does, and the pressure people put on him was insane! To me, Checo and Max balance each other really well, which is why they could work things out. If Checo could move on and be friendly with Max, I'm sure that we, as his fans, can do the same.

I like Max because he's genuine, and he learns from his mistakes. He is a little crass when provoked, but in general he is a nice guy; I don't know if you believe the whole 'Max is faking caring' that most haters say (they imply Max hates Checo and just tolerates him because he's forced), but I do believe Max can't fake this much this long.

Anyway, as usual, I went overboard with this, sorry anon, I wanted to give you context about why I like Max, and then filled this with my ramblings.

You can dislike Max anon, that's fine, just don't be hateful or claim to know better than them. Only Checo and Max know how is their relationship, but if Checo seems okay with him, that's all good in my book.

I think I haven't rambled this long in a while 😅

#anon questions #cinnamon random ramblings: f1 style #max verstappen #sergio perez #checo perez #chestappen #in my head

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dayslynthesix · 5 days ago

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welcome to gia’s ted talk.

this is just my opinion and you might argue as much as you want

i don't care about what you have to say on the 2022 season

i don't particularly care about lando norris so dont waste your time on that

as long as people keep talking about 2022 as if it was leclerc’s biggest mistake I'll keep talking about 2022 as ferrari biggest mistake. charles was responsible himself for -33 points on his championship, ferrari cost him +100 points. charles cannot be held responsible for engine failures or strategy mistakes, charles can be held responsible for the mistakes he committed alone. and i dare to say that france is not that big of a mistake as people make it look like. he was coming from multiple engine failures and wrong calls from the strategists and a throttle issue in austria.

france was not where he lost the championship. france was nothing compared to what ferrari did.

and i very much would like to also adress that when charles lost the championship in 2022 people were zero complacent with him.

“oh he doesn't have the mentality to be world champion”

“leclerc commit too many mistakes”

“he doesn't know how to lead a team”

“error prone”

“sainz is the better driver in ferrari and he should lead the team”

and it goes on and on

and now that norris was fully and completely humiliated for races in a row, i don't see the same treatment towards him. and don't get me wrong, i don't think its fair or right for the media and people to say those things, but the double standards here are so pathetic.

mclaren have the fastest car overall since miami. that's since may and i don't see them collecting results from that.

yeah, they were not ready to fight for a championship and yes that costed the team a lot, but where were those people in 2022 when ferrari was fucking leclerc's race again and again? where were people defending him from the media slandering?

a driver who won his f2 championship a week after his dad passed away

a driver who won his first race 24h after a close friend passed away in the exact track

a driver who won monza after 10 years after being chased for 53 laps by a much faster mercedes

a driver who won austria with a throttle issue

a driver who won monza in 2024 by having the balls to do a one stop only

a driver who saw an opportunity and went for it in austin

that's the driver they say that doesn't have a championship mentality

but the driver who took 5 years to win a race cause of a safety car

a driver who have the fastest car for MONTHS

a driver who was leading comfortably nearly kissed the wall 3 times in singapore

a driver who cannot keep the p1 in lap 1

a driver who had 3 opportunities to start a race in front and lost the position 3 TIMES

that's the driver they say “championship material”

the media tried to do with norris x verstappen what leclerc x verstappen is. there was never a title fight. norris would never get that tittle on verstappen. amd the fia tried everything in between mexico and brazil to give him a chance to do that.

the 10s penalty in mexico for an action that haven't lead to a collision? to an action that was already penalized in 5s? the yellow flags in brazil just to wait for norris and piastri to switch positions? the double yellow just so norris could finish his lap? that was 1. dangerous and 2. pathetic.

norris and verstappen faced each other this season and 9 out of 10 times or they touched or norris was left crying on the radio. leclerc and verstappen faced each other on a rainy race, without drs and they never left the white lines, they never touched each other.

max verstappen has just one rival, and a lot of people might say that's hamilton cause of 2021, but it is not. max verstappen's only rival is charles leclerc. you might argue the opposite, but no one knows how to race max the way charles does. no one can beat max in his own game like charles can. no one can dance with max the way charles can. in cota charles knew exactly whay max would do, and he won that race on lap one. in interlagos charles knew how max would attack and he defended just like he was inside the cockpit with max.

the title fight in 2024 was never a thing.

the fight is between norris and leclerc for the p2.

and the day ferrari give charles a championship car, he and max will deliver the best tittle fight since merceded 2016 and im willing to die on that.

#formula 1 #charles leclerc #ferrari #max verstappen #2022 season #formula one #interlagos gp 2024 #charles leclerc is the only rival max verstappen actually rate

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landinrris · 5 months ago

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lando to red bull........say more.......

So this one is based on a prompt I came across on ao3 in a collection (that I now can no longer find based on the screenshot I took at the time). It was originally supposed to be my second big project of last summer when McLaren was in the trenches and had me feeling a bit hopeless... and then McLaren stepped up their game. But I don't think it's completely dead potentially. The original prompt was:

"Red Bull!Lando and Ferrari!Carlos; they aren't together yet and are still pining. Lando thinks Carlos hates him now that they're battling much more directly across teams, but Carlos is just pulling away because he's struggling to hide his feelings- Lando's just so radiant, he can't help it anymore."

This scene would've likely been in the front half of the fic itself even though it takes place in Silverstone. I was... in a place (worse than I am now) when I wrote it regarding Carlos' apparent treatment at Ferrari around the beginning summer races last year. (it's also all I have connected to this prompt right now, so sorry for the slight angst but not sorry for the 1.2k this scene is. I couldn't split it up.)

ask me about a wip!

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They always end up here, laying in one of their rooms just because they can and unloading on each other in a way that’s never quite the same with someone else. Sometimes they get dinner beforehand, but they always end up here: Carlos on his back staring at the ceiling, Lando propped up on his elbow on his side watching on amused as Carlos collects his thoughts.

Carlos has gone silent now while Lando continues to watch him. He’s changed out of his Ferrari shirt, something old and soft in its place that he only ever wears at home and decidedly not in a motorhome in the English countryside. He reminds Lando of when he was at McLaren like this, and it makes his heart ache.

After the fifth consecutive minute spent in silence and Lando watching Carlos’ eyes flutter shut a few times, he starts to think maybe Carlos is just using him to get out of his motorhome. But Carlos speaks eventually, a heavy sigh on his lips. “They’ve switched the dynamic without telling me, I know they have.”

Lando is so startled by the noise, even though he’s been watching Carlos, that he startles himself. “Who did?”

“Ferrari. Vasseur. Charles went on the warpath a few weeks ago after he got penalized post-quali, and things haven’t been the same since.”

“Woah, hang on.” Lando pushes himself higher up on his elbow. Carlos has never mentioned a supposed hissy fit or what’s come out of it. “What happened?”

Carlos rolls onto his side as well, but he keeps his head on the pillow, effectively staring at Lando’s chest. “He impeded two people and got a six-place drop. Daniel and Esteban, I think. He was speaking French with Vasseur, so I don’t know what he was saying exactly, but it was loud.”

“Out of all the languages you know…”

Carlos rolls his eyes. “I know, I know. Since then though, we have not been allowed to fight. Charles has been more angry on the radio. I think the team is promising him preferential treatment to make him happy. To show him how he is their driver they want.”

“Didn’t you guys never have defined number 1 and number 2 drivers?”

“And that’s why I signed and renewed with them. You know how I feel about team orders.”

Lando knows all too well. He remembers the few times they happened at McLaren and the way Carlos looked like the human manifestation of a thundercloud getting out of the car following them. That reaction always made sense to Lando— they’re racing drivers, why are they there if they’re not allowed to race?

Carlos isn’t fuming now though, he’s lying in Lando’s bed in a motorhome in a field in Silverstone. He looks like he’s halfway deflated— the opposite of how Carlos Sainz should ever look.

“These last few races, they have kept me behind, and when I was not behind, they tried their best to get me there. Like they have told Charles he will finish in front of me if the team can help it.”

“What’s Charles said about it?” Lando’s almost afraid to hear the answer. He hasn’t spoken to Charles much lately, especially in the time now since he’s been at Red Bull, since he’s been a direct competitor. Since Charles is officially no longer lamenting to the press that Lando should just move over for him.

“About the change in treatment on track? I have not asked him about what he discussed with Vasseur. Plus I am not sure I care to hear how he thinks he deserves to be in front. I think there will be no contract negotiations then.”

Lando hangs his head and collapses into the pillow beneath him. “You haven’t even talked to him? Carlos Sainz Vasquez de Castro—”

“Ay,” Carlos kicks Lando’s leg as best he can from this angle, the blow landing at the top of his thighs. “He has not exactly come to me and said anything either. Nothing about being sorry for my race or strategy or anything. We used to commiserate about the bad days, and now every weekend is a bad weekend, and nothing.”

Carlos is still watching him when Lando turns his face to look. “So because he hasn’t said anything and you haven’t talked, he’s on board with getting preferential treatment?” Lando wonders if Carlos thinks it sounds as funny as it does coming out of his mouth.

Carlos’ face doesn’t falter though, a bad sign that he’s deeper in his head about this than Lando thought. “I’m not trying to discount your feelings, you muppet,” Lando says, a bit softer. The last thing he needs is Carlos leaving him like this. “Just trying to understand. You two seemed to really get along up until now.”

“It’s been gradually getting worse, and I don’t know what to do, Lando.”

Lando doesn’t know what to do either, if he’s being honest. He never had issues with Carlos at McLaren, with Daniel he was as non-confrontational as he could get, Oscar was much like Carlos, and now he knows his place with Max for the next six months as Max finishes his glory run.

Carlos has found himself in the middle of one of the most undesirable situations, and Lando’s lost for words.

The man lying across from him is a shell of who he used to be, closed off, light dimmed. The team doesn’t want driver feedback for development. His teammate takes team handouts because they help him. How is Lando not meant to have a poor view of everyone associated with that team when this is what they’ve done to one of Lando’s best friends? One of the people who kept him sane during 2020 even when they were hundreds of kilometers apart.

“The only thing I know is to talk to Fred.”

Unsurprisingly, Carlos doesn’t seem to like that idea. He groans and shifts to lie on his back like before. “I’m going to lose my seat.”

The fear of that coming to fruition is ten times scarier than any thought of Carlos being relegated to second driver mid-season. Lando inches closer to Carlos and debates reaching out to touch him but doesn’t let himself. “Don’t you dare let yourself lose your seat or so help me God, Carlos.” There’s probably too much emotion behind his words, but Lando doesn’t care. Not right now and not about this.

For the first time since laying here, Carlos cracks a smile. It’s small, but Lando couldn’t miss it if he tried. “Why, you would miss me too much?”

“Don’t act like you don’t know the answer.” Because Carlos does, Lando knows he does. Even on their most competitive days, Lando doesn’t wish for anything to be different. Could never. Not when Carlos beats him to pole by one one-hundredth of a second or when he makes his car the size of the entire track. Lando has Max, but he also has Carlos in a way that’s so unlike his other friendships in the paddock. He has Carlos in a way that screams what if we were more, what if we were brave enough?

Carlos looks at him like maybe he’s thinking that in this moment, but nothing comes of it— never does.Lando tells himself he’s okay with that, he is, especially during times like these. Besides, Lando would rather have Carlos as a friend than not at all, so he watches Carlos back and tries to keep his heart rate from spiking when Carlos says, “I do,” barely audible.

#ask #writing tag #husbands™#lando to rbr #carlando

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landthatplane-blog · 1 year ago

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Another steam of consciousness on Mr Daniel Ricciardo and no sleep so apologies in advance if things are a bit scattered.

A little scared to post because tags have been intense.

Anyways....

Happy for Daniel. Everyone criticized him for taking a break last year (which he clearly needed) and not taking a Haas/Williams seat. People thought that he thought he was too good. Well, he's now taking a seat at the last place team, to rebuild and prove himself. He sees a pathway, but he's taking the step down in hopes for a long view move. He is a multiple race winner and probably could have retired but of course, unfinished business. Beauty of the sport. The comeback. He's allowed the chance to rebuild and is literally starting with a back marker team now and knows he has to prove himself. But now, people are pressed he is in a seat. Again, obviously Red Bull see something in him. If they weren't seeing some indication - based on Red Bull's history of being cutthroat - this wouldn't be a conversation. Even on that Simon Rennie/RB podcast, Simon mentioned not wanting to basically lie or hype Daniel up if the results weren't there. There's a trust there. Luckily, they saw something. They literally can't hire Daniel solely for markeing/PR. Does it help? Of course. Everyone has to find value wherever they can. There's only 20 seats people have to take their opportunities where they can.

Alpha Tauri is a junior team narrative. It was but they've obviously repeatedly put out there they're looking for a restructure with one experienced driver and one younger, and they're going to be using Red Bull parts. Two young drivers (unless you're a generational talent like MV) could very well result in little to no points and they're dead last right now. Haas had to bring back two experienced drivers to make up for the previous years of two young drivers. They need an injection of experience.

Pay Driver - He has not had a family member nor a huge corporation buy his way into the sport. He's built a career where people are interested in him - over 10 years - how can people find a way to penalize that? Again, he can't win. Just because he can pull in interest from huge sponsors - again, after years of building a career, that's just the business. If it was based on that person's definition alone - Lewis, Lando would also be pay drivers. But it isn't based on that factor alone. There's so many factors.

A lot of people deserve things, but this is a competitive sport, so nothing is ever guaranteed. Liam may very well deserve a spot on the grid, but you could also say he never would have had this opportunity if not for DR's accident. Also, if he’s as great as people think he is - I’m not too worried for him. People keep going back to Alex Albon's appendix causing the string of recent events but sometimes I think - this all wouldn't have happened if Daniel hadn't left Red Bull in first place lol. Maybe he'd still have his Red Bull seat now! I don't mean that in a he shouldn't have left, just that his leaving kind of caused a similar effect and gave all these other people opportunities lol. But again, that's not really how it works. They're making decisions based on today's circumstances. And now, he's come back but has to re-earn his spot. His leg up is Christian Horner supports him, but he still has to perform to get back. Just think it's funny people are acting like, there won't be hard work or there's no talent (again, drivers don't forget how to drive). It's complicated and impossible to identify who "deserves" a seat more or less. So many variables and impossible to be definitive (the way some people speak as if they know everything/must be right). Guess, we could argue forever which is what's entertaining. That said....

Professionalism/Kindness. While I think everyone knows that the way McLaren handled Daniel's exit was in poor taste, never once did Daniel complain or make excuses. He was professional and continues to be. The results weren't there. When he was fired (let go, released), he understood it. Acknowledged the results weren't there and this was part of the sport (I'll get into that NY Times article another time - but it was clearly not for a lack of trying). Daniel called Oscar Piastri to tell him no hard feelings. Wanted him to still have a positive start. Even Checo has been asked about Daniel "coming after his seat" and presumably under a lot of pressure for 2025 and his response was also professional and an understanding of the sport. He said Daniel's a friend and there are only 20 seats, there's no hard feelings. It's up to him (Checo) to perform. They all understand. Nobody inherently deserves or is guaranteed a seat. Wish some fans would understand. If the drivers aren't publically pressed about it themselves - maybe everyone just calm down. People are just so nasty, and without actually knowing all the information. Twitter/X is the worst. This should be fun, juicy, competitive but no need to bring hate or be nasty.

That's all for now🤷🏻‍♀️. As always, happy to discuss but please be kind (or funny).

#daniel ricciardo #dr3 #danny ric #f1 #formula 1

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vro0m · 4 months ago

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"Clearly you're very annoyed that I don't think Max is completely right, but I'm not interested in debating you on that, so I'm just not gonna do it. (...) I again am not talking about whether he gets punished by the stewards because of course he gets penalties I'm talking about whether his entourage including his team act like "well it is what it is the stewards made a decision" or "he was right and they were wrong and our driver can't do no mistakes and nothing bad" which, historically, they have done."

? Thats not has been said, nor the type of narrative you and other accounts have been feeding regarding Max and his driving. I dont think Max was completely right, for the record. (Not that it matters) He only hurt himself by the choices he made in the fight with Lewis. He was clumsy and frustrated although not in a vacuum. Of course, as a fan, I'm going to be sympathetic of the context that led to his error. I'm not asking u to do the same, ur obviously not a fan. In Austria its a different story, he raced how he was being raced and was fully within his rights to do so. If his team, his "entourage", along with multiple other drivers on the grid, Alain Prost, Eddie Jordan, etc btw, also agree with how he raced, I'm not sure why you thinking it would be "beneficial" for him to change is any way relevant to the discussion. (You, and other accounts like yours, that claim objectivity above all else, asked for a drive through penalty for Austria, on top of the penalties he received. Hungary was considered a racing incident, with Hamilton being noted as the who should have made a better effort to avoid collision. No penalty.. Is this, to u, an example of stewarding favoring Max and rewarding his style of driving?) You've made implicit and explicit references to Max being treated more leniently than others by FIA, and not learning from what you consider to be subpar driving, which ends up hurting him. This is your opinion. This is not based on any data, its just an eye test for Verstappen and what you think is good or bad for f1. This whole time I've been asking you for recent specific instances where max was penalized according to a more lenient rule book that only benefits him and is detrimental to others. I'm also asking you why veteran champions like Max and Lewis have different reactions from you and the public when it comes to what they demand from their teams and what they can or cannot say when those demands aren't met. I also get how this can be boring and uninteresting to you. I dont have any issue or beef with u specifically lol I just saw your posts and wanted to challenge some notions. Thats it. Feel free not to interact anymore.

Yeah see you're talking of "other blogs like me" who supposedly share my opinions but I think you're mistaken about what my opinions are. You seem to have wrongly associated me with other takes you've seen elsewhere that do not come from me and that's why we're both confused in this convo.

Because what you've just said is not what has been said is actually exactly what I've been saying lol

I did not ask for a drive through in Austria? I did not say he should have received a penalty yesterday? Like I've told you before I'm not saying the stewards are favouring him. I also did not say his driving his subpar. I think he's an excellent driver and have repeatedly said so.

Like legit you're misattributing things you've read elsewhere to me. You're generalising based on a stereotype you have in your mind of "blogs like mine" but I am not who you think I am and you are being kinda weird about it to be completely honest.

My point was, I think Max sometimes is rash (like you said he got frustrated and it led him to be clumsy yesterday) and I think that the fact that he's historically not been held accountable for his rash behavior by his team and entourage (NOT talking about the stewards) is not good for him because he would get even better if they didn't see him making contacts with others as just fine. He would have to learn to control his emotions better and not get clumsy like that when he's frustrated (which is a normal thing to happen, but getting clumsy because of it is a pity), and that would make him not less bold but smarter about it, and I would like to see that happen because I like good racing and he's a good racer.

#this isn't a Lewis hero Max villain take #Lewis has his own issues that I've been criticising him for as well #This really has nothing to do with him tbh #vro0m's asks

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silentreigns · 1 year ago

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George fans talk about prioritizing, I actually had more than one cases of Merc prioritizing Russell before Lewis.

The one I will use is Brazil 2022. Yeah, usually esp Merc will always pit the leading car in every pit under normal situation and in this race there was exception. Merc in their second chose to pit Lewis who had fresher tires bc late first pit and obviously can use it as an advantage in remnant laps by late pit and in the hindsight, if he did that, he can actually get a free pit bc the sc. But Merc somehow took that away by changing the pit call order to make Lewis pit for the second stint first, making sure he can’t attack Russell for win bc he didn’t have tires advantage which was gained by himself, after getting crashed into by Max and with car damage, he still managed to close the gap with front by himself, and Merc just took that away bc they want a solid finish without potential inner fight.

Back to Singapore 2023, obvs Russell got the prior of being leading car in the team, first pit every time, even though Lewis will lose time bc Merc slow double pits. And the smartest strategy is to pit Lewis and keep Russell out, but I think with Russell he would insist to pit bc he wanted to win. Unfortunately Merc is so used to this strategy with Lewis, who can always make this kind of hunting happen that made Merc think maybe the other driver can make it work too. And We have Bottas who failed to make it in Bahrain 2017( or 18? ) and Monza 2019 and now we had Russell crumbled under pressure too. Just show that not everyone suits this strategy.

I have a lot of thoughts on this and they're pretty scattered but walk with me

Mercedes needs to quit with these long pitstops. These 3-5 second pitstops aren't cute and they need to resolve that issue 😭😭😭. Double stacking is not their strong suit so that made me even more nervous

I only remember a couple of things about Brazil 2022, so I might not be completely accurate. I think George and Lewis were allowed to fight for the win. I don't know if it was possible for Lewis to win though even if he didn't have contact with Max. Lewis only led for a few laps and George was having one of the best races of his career. Too bad there was so much drama in the paddock that it completely overshadowed his win 😭

In hindsight, maybe it would have been better for George to stay out and for Lewis to pit in the final stint yesterday. Maybe George didn't have a good outlap so that ruined his chances of catching Lando. Mercedes took a gamble and it did pay off until it didn't 🤷‍♀️

I will never get mad at George for being ambitious and pushing himself to be the best driver. I'll get annoyed about him suggesting team orders, but I understand that he just wants to maximize the amount of points

But I do need to recognize that this season he's made a lot of mistakes that have cost him considerably. Colliding in a wall with Canada, contact with Lando at Zandvoort then proceeding to cause an incident with Yuki which resulting in Yuki getting penalized somehow, hitting a wall in Singapore, and I can go on. I feel like he's been off this whole season, and it's hard to explain what I mean

We know George is talented but his impulsive decisions this season have me scratching my head. I don't think he's crumbling under pressure because he has been qualifying way better since the summer break. He just needs to... calm down. Like we know you're a great driver and that you're in high pressure situations. He just needs to be in a better headspace.

#f1 #formula 1 #lewis hamilton #george russell #i accidentally pressed answer when drafting oops 😭

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when all of the comments under lando's DOTD posts are salty checo fans complaining he didn't get it 🙄

i don't even dislike checo but P15 to P3 in the fastest car on the grid, on a track where overtaking is pretty easy, is not impressive to me. he didn't even start P15 due to a team error or engine penalty or something, he did that all on his own with his own errors 🙄

also Team LH complaining about him "whining about Lewis" like. please. Lewis was on the radio reporting Checo and others after he had already been penalized for track limits. they were all reporting things because they're all going to take any advantage they can get 😂

let drivers be snitchy it’s so funny

and yeah checo literally just got his car back to where it should’ve been and the first couple of times he did that it was impressive but he’s now constantly getting himself in situations he just shouldn’t be in lmao

#ask response

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the fia always favors the big teams. Because they bring the most money, and viewers.

#the amount of things #ferrari mercedes and rbr #have gotten away with #things other teams/drivers did get penalized for #f1 #formula 1

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And he still had the same amount of points. He was leading the last race untill Masi decided breaking rules is fine to secure Max the title. But keep on convincing yourself maybe you'll be able to say it without shame in few years. //

Max finished on the podium a literal record breaking eighteen times. In the other four races, three were dnfs (two of which were not his fault; Silverstone and Baku, and the third; Monza was a racing incident) and the fourth was still a points finish with a wrecked car in Hungary. Max never finished below second outside of those incidents. He led more than double the laps Hamilton did. Max got ten wins; the most of any driver this season. Max had six of the seasons fastest laps to Hamilton's five. Max earned that title but keep on convincing yourself that he didn't maybe you'll be able to say it without shame in few years.

Also because apparently people didn't actually watch last season;

Hamilton didn't respect track limits in Bahrain, didn't get penalized for it and won. Rules were broken there but you don't seem to care about that, almost as if it's not the integrity of the sport you care about so much as Max winning and Lewis losing in Abu Dhabi...

At Imola, Max overtook Lewis who had pole at the first corner and led for the rest of the race. On the thirty-first lap, Hamilton slid into the gravel at Tosa, while trying to lap the Williams of George Russell which damaged his front wing and put him at ninth. He got lucky that soon after Bottas and Russell had an incident which led to the race being red flagged, allowing him a free pit stop and for his wing to be fixed and essentially erasing the lead Max had built which allowed Hamilton to catch up more easily and claim second place. One point separated them as Hamilton had claimed the fastest lap.

Portugal, Hamilton won and Max came second, but had he been held to the same standards as Hamilton at Bahrain he'd also have the fastest lap point but unlike Hamilton, he was penalized for exceeding track limits. Odd that if masi was breaking the rules to secure Max the title, that that clear double standard happened against Max, isn't it?

Barcelona, Hamilton won but this time Max did claim the fastest lap point along with his p2.

Monaco, Hamilton literally had his worst qualifying in three years, coming seventh. Max qualified P2 but as Charles Leclerc wasn't able to race, he was the de facto pole sitter. He won and this was the first time since the 2018 British Grand Prix that Mercedes had not led either championship as Perez brought significant points home for red bull too.

Baku, Max had tyre failure which was beyond his and red bulls control (because I can already hear someone repeating the red bull was at fault story Mercedes tried so hard to sell. Why and how, pray tell then, did the exact same thing happened to Lance Stroll? Hate to break it to you but Aston Martin and Red bull are two separate teams. AM may have the og Red bull golden boy bastard (affectionate) Sebastian but they are not connected to red bull). What should've been an easy win after Perez had a slow start off the line at the restart, Hamilton, through his own actions, threw it away by locking up and forcing himself down an escape route, dropping to last as a result and practically gifting Perez the lead, leading to Hamilton's worst finish for over twelve years and the first time since the 2013 Spanish Grand Prix that he finished a race outside the points. Max still claimed the fastest lap point. Max leads the championship.

France. Max won and claimed the fastest lap point. Nico Rosberg expressed surprise that Hamilton did not do more to prevent Verstappen from passing him at the penultimate lap (Max had fresher tyres too, sounds familiar, no?). Red bull described the result as "a little bit of payback for Barcelona earlier in the year", in reference to the strategy Mercedes had used to win there. Red bull learned from their errors throughout the season, can't say the same about Mercedes. Max leads the championship.

Styrian GP. Max got pole and led every lap of the race to claim another victory. Max lapped every driver outside of the other drivers making up the top 4; Hamilton, Bottas and Perez. This was the first time since the 2013 season that Mercedes had not won in four consecutive races. Lewis got the fastest lap point. Max leads the championship.

Austrian GP. Max took pole, the fastest lap, the win and led every lap of the race to claim his first grand slam. Hamilton qualified fourth and got P4 in the race. Max leads the championship and became the first driver to win three rounds of the world championship on consecutive weekends.

For Silverstone I'm not going to say much. Max claimed three points from the sprint race as well as pole. Max dnf due to a significant crash and was sent to hospital while Hamilton got very lucky in regards to the lenient penalty he received. Max still leads the championship.

Hungary. To paraphrase Charles, the bowling incident. Max still managed to drag a wrecked car into the points while Lewis and Merc cost themselves another easy win by not joining the rest of the remaining cars to restart from the pits. Lewis did come P2 and took the lead.

Spa was an absolute circus thanks to FIA but I'm not going to get into too much of that. Max got pole in qualifying and led the "race" the following day to claim P1. Hamilton came P3 (having been out qualified by George Russell in a Williams) in qualifying and the "race" the following day. Hamilton leads the championship but the gap tightened to just 3 points between them.

Zandvoort. Max became the first Dutch driver to win his home GP with a 20 sec lead to Hamilton in P2. Hamilton got the fastest lap but Max leads the championship.

Monza they both dnf. A racing incident that wouldn't have happened had it not been for the kerb.

Sochi. Max didn't set a qualifying time as he would be starting at the back of the grid due to penalties regardless of where he placed while Hamilton was once again out qualified by Russell in the Williams. Hamilton claims victory but he was extremely lucky that rain began late in the race and that while he was pitted, lead driver Lando refused to pit, costing him the win and even a podium as he slid off the track due to the conditions. Max, too benefitted from the rain, which helped him clench p2 but he had already maneuvered himself into the points when the downpour began. Hamilton leads the championship.

Istanbul. Hamilton received a ten-place grid penalty for exceeding his number of permitted internal combustion engines but cost himself a podium as he refused to pit when initially asked by his team and then had to pit late in the race. Max came P2 and reclaimed the championship lead.

Austin. Max won and continued to lead the championship. Hamilton, though on much fresher tyres during the final laps, was unable to catch up to Verstappen and challenge for P1.

Mexico. A beautiful double overtake on both Mercs from the outside from Max at the opening turn of Mexico helped him claim victory there and maintain his championship lead. Hamilton came P2.

Brazil. Hamilton won and I'll admit it was his best race in an all together less than stellar season from him ("if it was a less than stellar season how was he on equal points in Abu Dhabi, if his season bad and Max's perfect how were they on equal points huh?", well some helpful luck as I've mentioned - which everybody does need to win a championship before someone shoots - and I'm comparing his performance this year to his past performances, not to anybody else's and this has been one of his weakest seasons in the sport by his standards, almost as if he forgot what it was like to actually be partaking in a battle for the championship. Max had his best season yet. Did you see the key words? Yet. Can also use terms like so far, to date. The other key word is his because I'm comparing his performance this season with his past ones, are you following? Max and Hamilton are at very different points in their careers and it'll only be after they've both retired that you can properly compare them based on their respective performance history. And before the "oh Hamilton nearly won the championship as a rookie and did win it in his second year" starts, you can be the absolute goat driver but without a car capable of winning the championship, you're going nowhere. There's six years between Hamilton's first and second title for a reason buddy). Max came P2, still leads the championship.

Qatar. Hamilton won. Max came P2 and claimed fastest lap, still leads the championship.

Jeddah which was a diaster of a race let's be real so I'm not going to get into it but it's only here where the two are actually on equal on points.

Abu Dhabi. Hamilton goes off track and gains an advantage, which Max was penalized for the race before. Hamilton got away with keeping said advantage. Red bull got told by Merc to suck it up, they did because as Merc said at the time, FIA'S decisions are final. They only took issue when it was there turn to suck it up. Mercedes had three separate opportunities to pit Hamilton but they refused and gambled he could make it to the end ahead of Max. Red bull gambled to pit Max and it paid off. And actually read the rulebook because Masi didn't break any rules. An extract from the Articles 15.13, 48.12, and 48.13 (aka the relevant rules), 2021 Formula One Sporting Regulations states that "any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car". Any does not mean all. You can check out the regulations for yourself. You can then complain about the vagueness of the rule but it wasn't broken. Max on fresher tyres overtook Hamilton and crossed the line first. Back to Masi, he wanted them to race and didn't want the season to end under a safety car, he wanted one last lap of racing, Lewis was still in contention for the win. I'd like to remind you of Nico's statement in France now... He expressed surprise that Hamilton did not do more to prevent Verstappen from passing him at the penultimate lap. Max was on fresher tyres there too. Your driver could've defended better and he'd might have won France or the precious eighth in Abu Dhabi. He didn't, at either race.

You don't win or earn a championship in one race.

*I didn't discuss the numerous yellow flag infractions Lewis got away especially in the lead up to the last races with the stewards and Masi ignoring them all or opting not to penalize him for them. Masi and FIA were inconsistent all year and fucked over literally everybody all year. Merc got off pretty lightly and far better in comparison their competitors. For example Bottas should've been penalized in Jeddah for deliberately slowing under a safety car to impede a car coming out from the pits, which is a huge no no but he got away with it.

For once in my life I am speechless....anon holy shit I love you for this...this is amazing and just so on point I genuinely have nothing to add other than Bahrain ugh hated that. Also Lewis should have gotten a penalty after his third reprimand but that rule was conventality changed.

A championship is won over a season, not the last three races. Max earned his championship

#holy shit anon #being iconic as fuck #if Max didn't win it would have been a joke #Max earned it over 22 races #he was the best that season #and deserved the championship more #anon💜#lots of love honey🧡🧡#max verstappen #formula 1 #f1

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Couldn't watch the GP because I was out, I only checked the results. Were there any major blunders by Ferrari with Charles?

Both here and in Monza it looked like RB is simply faster and not like Ferrari have been screwing up. Are they finally getting their shit together with their strategies?

(And of course Charles's bad luck with the timing of his pit stops lol)

I've seen people talk about the fact that Ferrari has been working to make Carlos more comfortable in the car and how that has penalized Charles in the second part of the season (and I think today was proof too because ppl say Charles complained about the car having too much uundersteer, which is what Carlos wanted?). But apart from that and the 3-wheel fiasco, Ferrari doesn't seem to screw up as much.

Or maybe it's just because Silverstone, Monaco, the engines blowing up etc. were so traumatizing that anything looks BETTER compared to that 🤪

But yeah I think that Ferrari really wasn't ready to handle the pressure of a championship fight. So now that Charles is out of contention, they feel less pressure and are racing better as a team. Of course the car is a different issue.

If RB have been really overspending this year as well, it's no wonder Ferrari can't keep up. Plus they've been working to suit the car to Carlos, and that had a bad impact on Charles. But team-wise things look promising for next year.

(Xavi is still an issue IMO, their radio exchanges are quite embarrassing, and Charles sounds exasperated by the quality of info he is given).

We shall see if next season Ferrari will be more ready to handle the pressure of a championship fight. Especially because Mercedes might be back, and the FIA might look at RB's finances more closely, so it'll be really close fight with the top 3 teams.

Sorry for the late reply!

No Ferrari plunders today!! They did really well!

I think your assessment of Ferrari being a little bit more relaxed and therefore better is definitely a part of it. But also they have been talking about working on things like communication and strategy and those processes.

The RB was faster again, but it wasn't as bad as it has been.

I think it is an accumulation of multiple things that made the Ferrari lose pace. The shift of balance towards more understeer is part of it but not the only thing. However, Charles can also driver a more understeery car fast. It hasn't hampered him as such.

The thing with Xavi is that on one hand people are more critical of any Ferrari radio interaction just for the sake of it rn. And on the other hand they are a little bit all over the place rn because they are trying to work on it and what information Charles is given. I would say as Charles himself has said that that is a work in progress and not nearly as bad as it sounds.

The thing is that there are miscommunications between all drivers and their race engineers. It's a fairly normal thing.

They might not be perfect next year but they are working on it and that is a good sign!

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Livi podcast

The guests of the podcasts are Dominik Livaković and Marjan Mrmić(who is goalie coach)

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Host: Tell me a bit about your season in Dinamo. It was one of, if not the best season ever in Dinamo. What would you say, what happened? How did you guys become so good?

Livi: I guess there are more quality players now. And we worked well together and..yeah. I guess something just clicked

Marjan: He is being humble. Dominik had an excellent season and he knew how to stay calm in stressful situations and that calmed the rest of the team

Livi: *looks at the floor*

Host: was losing against Ferencvaros the turning point? What made you all be that much better after?

Livi: well I suppose it was important. I mean, I think I could almost say it was a good thing we lost so early on, considering the rest of the season

Host: I am not sure director of finances in dinamo agrees

Livi, laughing: well no, probably not but I think we brought it enough money later on

Host: you defended a penalty against Cluj. Well two actually. Was that harder to do or was watching Suba defending penalties during WC?

Livi: oh wow *laughs * that's-I mean you can't compare those two things. Completely different feelings. But I suppose there wasn't that much pressure put on me during those penalities because I didn't know they would be the last. But Suba is probably one of the best goalies Croatia ever had, if not the best. So I really don't think that's comparable

Host: Alright, first card break. You need to choose between two things

Marjan: Nutmerg or dribble?

Livi: what?

Host: *repeats it *

Livi: *loading * oh! Nutmeg. *laughs * especially when it's Vida

Host: did that happen?

Domo: *yelling from the background * (I think he said "he didn't say that!" But it's not clear) *

Livi: *laughs * Anyway, next question

Marjan: Meat or fish?

Livi: Hmm. Meat

Marjan: Pizza or hamburger?

Livi: Pizza. Especially after a winning game

Host: how did you start with your goalie career? Since most guys want to score a goal

Livi: well, I can't quite remember. I was attacker one day and goalie the next. I like the way goalies threw themselves to catch a ball I guess

Host: are all goalies this calm? Or are you and Marjan exceptions?

Livi: I mean, there are some goalies that are crazy *laughs, shakes his head * but I am more of a calm type. Works better for me. Although there is that saying 'you are a goalie? You must be crazy' so you know

Host: Second card break. It's who in the national team...?

Marjan: who takes the longest to get read in the nt?

Livi: oh, Vida

Marjan: Who runs the fastest?

Livi: Vida

Host: Vida, again?

Livi: *shrugs, laughing *

Livi: who has the most precise shoot?

Marjan: right now? Oršić

Host: Livi, would you agree as his teammate?

Livi: well yes, of course he is very good. But Vida is also very good, especially recently, he scored a lot

Marjan: who has the best hairstyle?

Livi: * laughs, covers his mouth*

Host: yeah, you can use Vida again here

Livi: yeah, yeah... Vida has the best hair

Livi: who has the best sense of humor?

Marjan: Vida

*all laugh, Domo yelling again from the background *

Host: so your first, well second game, against England, what do you remember from it? Were you nervous?

Livi: yes, of course. When I read the list of names of their players...I certainly felt nervous. It has been...what? 5 years since then?

Host: 3, 4 years actually. Autumn in 2018?

Livi: Really?

Host: who are players who you find most fun? The ones whose company you liked the most during WC?

*Livi, looking at Vida and laughing *

Host: EXCEPT for Vida

Livi: Then, there were also Šime, Dejan and Broz

Host: except for not missing being on a bench, do you miss Suba in nt?

Livi, smiling: yes, I miss him. I miss him a lot. We have been on a coffee the other day, actually

Host: what would you say, how did you improve as a goalie? But please don't give me a generic answer like, experience

Livi: experience *laughs * I am kidding, I am kidding. But I have been working on playing with my foot a lot. That's what I concentrate on the most and I think I improved. Other goalie stuff well...you learn in every training

Host: okay, new set of cards, but with one new rule. Who would you choose from nt but WITHOUT Domagoj Vida

Marjan: who would you choose as a singer in a band

Livi, laughing: who else am I supposed to choose? Who else?

Host: alright, alright. I'll give you that one

Marjan: who would you let babysit your kid for a few hours?

*Livi, laughing*

Host: no. No you can't

Livi: hmmm. Then I suppose either Kale or Vrsaljko. They have a lot of experience

Livi: who would you let choose your outfit

Marjan: hmmm. Dominik

Marjan: who would you choose as a co-driver on rallying?

Livi: oh, Šime for sure. When he presses accelator...he doesn't stop

Host: so tell me, do you plan to stay in Dinamo forever? Or did you have some plans for future clubs?

Livi: I don't think much ahead. Everytime I do, it doesn't exactly end up that way. We'll see. I feel good in Dinamo right now. We have amazing results and I feel like home. Zadar is close, too

Host: Well then. Don't forget about out deal. If you sign up for Barcelona you have to go to every nt conference for the rest of your career

Livi: *laughs awkardly *

Host: I hope it still counts. I mean Ter Stengen isn't bad but I am holding onto your word about that

Livi: alright

Host: Let's ask something more private. We know you are in a relationship and by recent covid regulations we are allowed to have bigger weddings again so...I am kidding, but in all seriousness did you think about starting a family?

Livi: well yes, of course I have. I mean, all the people I know that have children think of them as biggest blessing. I do want that, at some point

Host: pets?

Livi, smiling again: yes, Cruz

Host: what breed is he?

Livi: pomsky. Do I really need to explain?

Host: ...a bit

Livi: * explains *He is wonderful. I mean he is mine, but...he is really wonderful. He makes you so happy, especially when you come home after being away...it's amazing

Host: Helena used to do ice skating and according to Vida, you are the best dancer on the team. That means your first dance will be amazing

Livi: *laughs * I am not so sure about that. I think I'll need to practice a lot, even more than I did to learn how to defend a goal. But we'll see how that'll go. And I have to say that Vida lied. But maybe he is the best. He dances...really good

Host: he has a good sense for rhythm?

Livi: he rips shirts a lot

Host: New card break. Favorites

Marjan, reading a question from the card: what's your favorite childhood moment?

Host: the one that isn't connected to football

Livi: not connected to fooball. Uff. I am not sure I remember. Hmmm

Host: that far away huh?

Livi: *laughs * yeah. I guess coming back from school and everything being alright(I am guessing he means grades wise)

Host: that moments were so rare huh?

Marjan: Favorite series?

Livi: Game of Thrones

Host: what's your hobbies, except for series? What so you do when you don't play football

Livi: well, I actually like to play basketball. I am from Zadar, after all. I started with basketball first actually, before switching to football

Host: okay, I gotta ask. Why do goalies spit in their gloves?

Livi: well so the ball sticks to them better. So it doesn't fall out of our hands *rubs palms together * so they are...wet. *realizes what he said * but yeah uh. Mostly so you don't drop the ball

Host: do you prefer long or short sleeved jersey? And how do you choose that?

Livi: I like long sleeved one better

Host: except when it's really hot?

Livi: yeah...when it's really hot I choose short sleeved undershit

Host: Anyway, you guys told me not to make this too long considering there is a final of Europe league that you want to watch. Any preferences about who wins?

Livi: No, I think both teams are great. They have different qualities so, we'll see

Marjan: I think Manchester United will win. Longer tradition

Host: Either way, thank you guys for participating in today's podcast. And to everyoone who is watching, I hope you'll watch us tomorrow as well. Goodbye

#dominik livakovic #marjan mrmic #vatreni podcast #croatia nt

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My controversial opinion is that i can't understand how lewis hamilton implying race stewards were "out there to get him" when they gave him penalities a few race ago hasn't made more noise. Being at the very top of the game, winning almost every race and then implying there's a personal vendetta going on against him the ONE time things dont go his way. it's rubbing me off the wrong way that hes not able to admit his team fucked up. instead he is willing to throw other people under the bus.

hmmm, I’m not sure if I agree with you or not Anon. the penalties he was given at the Russian GP (for anyone that has forgotten: he got two five second time penalties for doing his practice starts at the wrong spot) were ridiculous in my opinion. I understand he was given a penalty for it (although I don’t think it was particularly necessary when other drivers have done it too and they did not get a penalty), but two was just completely unnecessary. his comment that “they were out to get him”... feels a bit too much from him, to me. I think he was punished too heavily, but in the end they reviewed the decision and changed it. I don’t think they are out to get him (at least, not in this particular situation). correct me if I’m wrong, but what I think you are implying is that he shouldn’t have fought the decision, which is something I don’t really agree with. yes, his team fucked up, but it was unfair that he got such a heavy penalty for it while other drivers have done similar things and did not get a penalty for that. even though he’s at the top of his game and winning almost every race, I still think he has the right to call out something that is not right. if something is unfair, it’s unfair. I personally don’t think it matters that he would be number one anyway. anonymously send me your controversial f1 opinions and I’ll tell you if I agree or not

#have a wonderful evening Anon 🧡#elle answers #anonymously send me your controversial f1 opinions and i’ll tell you if i agree or not

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vro0m’s rewatch - 108.2/301

2012 Abu Dhabi GP - PART 2 : RACE

Disclaimer for this season. It turns out that I only have the footage of the race for a lot of the GPs (no build-up, no post-race content) so there will be way less GIFs unfortunately. I will let you know for each of these reviews if there are GIFs or not. THIS ONE HAS GIFS.

Alright so unbelievably this time I have pre quali, quali, post quali, pre race, race and post race videos which is a lot of content hence the two parts. Let's dive in!

Okay it's time for the race then. Let's discover what happened to Seb's engine in the end. Oh wow. It really was the fuel! He was penalized for that and he's starting from the pitlane, because RedBull decided to change his gearbox as he was starting from the back of the grid anyway.

So now we get a quali report that we don't need hehe.

During the driver's parade, Seb is calm, he says that was yesterday and there's no use dwelling on it, basically. He's always been very composed, this one, unlike Lewis. I'm pointing it out because it's actually quite impressive for him to be this chill so young. None of the other young drivers I’ve seen ever were that in control lol. Skipping Horner saying they could've gotten the missing amount of fuel from the engine bla bla bla.

We're reminded that when Lewis got disqualified from pole (Spanish GP), he went from 24th to 8th.

During the driver's parade, Lewis says he didn't expect to be on pole but the team did a great job and the car is really working well even though they don't know why. He hopes the race will reflect the same performance. When asked about Webber behind him he says they both don't really have anything to lose so it's fair game. He smiles.

This whole build up so far is about Alonso and Seb. There's a whole interview at Williams too which might be interesting if you're into Toto but I'm not so yep.

Wait wtf is that.

Tooned? There's a toon Lewis? Has this been a thing all season that I didn't know about holy fuck? (it IS it's episode 10 I'm gonna have to look it up can I find the other episodes somewhere? IT'S ON YOUTUBE ALL THE EPISODES ARE ON YOUTUBE YES) Oh my god I have no words for how much I LOVE THIS. I'm this close 👌 to making gifs of the whole thing.

Here's the plot. Lewis and Jenson meet Professor M in the factory. Professor M has invited an old friend : Mika Hakkinen (played by... Mika Hakkinen). Lewis says "Mikaaa! Wicked!" and then he asks if they're racing against him but Professor M tells them he's not here to race, he's here to promote the new Mclaren go-karts with them. They're not happy to do so, but Professor M is proud of his impact-resistant doors. Freddie is here to take photos of them with the go-karts. Just as he's about to leave, Professor M tells them not to do anything silly and he knows he can trust Mika.

They take photos. Jenson tells Mika he used to be a great driver. He says thanks but now I'm retired and most of my driving is done on the golf course. Lewis asks if he really doesn't wanna race anymore. He answers that he has two world championships and he's happy with that. Jenson adds "you don't wanna feel the rush?" Mika ticks.

"Okay, I'm coming out of retirement," he says, and he jumps in the white kart in front of him. As he turns the corner he tells the two others "keep up boys!" They jump in their own karts and as they go after him, Jenson grabs Freddie's camera and tells him he’ll take care of it.

They're now racing through the factory. But Freddie gets a ride with other Freddies and they go after them with a siren. Lewis says "Look out it’s the feds" (???) They lose them in a corridor by hiding behind the exposed cars. Then they're on a footbridge and the workers following them damage the glass barriers with their vehicle. Mika overtakes Jenson and Lewis and laughs and makes a comparison to Schumacher that I can't hear well enough to figure out. The Freddies have made a barrage in front of exposed cars. The two others step on the brakes but Mika keeps going. The workers jump out of his way and he uses the displayed McLaren's nose as a ramp and jumps above the barricade.

Jenson takes pictures. He says “He really is the flying finn!” Mika drifts back to his starting point, crack his knuckles and says “That felt really good.” He's joined by Jenson and Lewis. Lewis says "You still got it man!" and Mika says "I never lost it".

Freddie gets his camera back. Professor M gets the camera back from Freddie. He asks him if he got some nice pics, and Freddie shrugs. While he looks at the photos, the three drivers back off slowly, and then start running.

Professor M yells "MIKAAAAAH" and you see birds flying away around the factory. "They were only supposed to show the bloody doors off" he laments.

THE END.

I love it unironically, it's amazing. I might post them at some point, I've downloaded them off YouTube.

Oh Anthony is on the grid 💜 Martin tells him his boy seems on form. He nods. "Yeah real good form, I think he's in a good space. The car’s been performing really well." He says yesterday was just stunning : "It's nice seeing these purples come up, isn't it?" (Oh it is Anthony, it is. I miss them very much now.) He agrees with Brundle that getting off the line will be the hardest part but he thinks it'll be okay, the weather is good, the performance of the car, Lewis' performance, and the performance of everybody around him... He thinks they are “all gonna have a nice race today" and he adds it'll be interesting to see Sebastian come through "won't it?" Brundle says he's really looking forward to that.

Alright. We're ready for the race now.

Oh you're kidding me. So I discovered the race was also in Russian so I went ahead and downloaded it from another website so now I also have the BBC build-up on top of the skysports’ one lol. It's like all the content lacking from this season's reviews has been injected in this one fucking race.

So here we have Lewis talking about his qualifying lap with Jake. For some reason they're all wearing these red flowers and I don't know why but I'll look it up after I've watched the race because I don't know who won and I don't wanna spoil myself. (I’ve looked it up and didn’t find an answer.)

Jake asks him about the fact that it's his last 3 races with McLaren and does it drive him more to get some performance out of it.

He says he's always driven to win for this team. He'd love to win the last three races. "It would be incredible, what a way to go out!" Jake asks if when things are going well like this he has moments when he thinks "oh what have I done, why am I walking away." He says no.

But then he also says yeah, when you drive the car you think "mh this car feels great" and that the car he's going to is nowhere near as fast at the moment.

He says it'll require a lot of work (I’m thinking back to what I wrote in the quali report about the car - driver fit) but, he says, he's really really looking forward to that challenge.

"If we do bad then we did our best but if we improve and we do better then it's gonna be incredible".

Anyway NOW we're ready for the race, come on.

Formation lap (finally)

An HRT can't leave, a tyre blanket is stuck, he's being pushed away.

And they're racing!

Great start from Lewis! Great start from Raikkonen who jumped both Maldonado and Webber, who had terrible starts, for P2. Contact at the back! It's a Force India and a Williams? Now Webber is defending from Alonso but he's in his slipstream and he gets ahead. Grosjean has a puncture. It was Hulkenberg and Senna touching in the first corner and Rosberg is in the pits for some reason? Di Resta has a rear puncture and Lewis is running wide, he's under pressure from Raikkonen?! Lewis wtf... Thankfully he defends well but he shouldn't be that close tbh. On the radio, he says the tyres are really cold. But the track temperature is similar to what they had in quali. And Seb, on his side of things, is calling for front wing damage. He's up in 17th though.

Oh there's been a big accident. Rosberg is embedded in the barriers, but he's out and OK. Karthikeyan is involved. The Safety Car is out. Karthikeyan is also out now. I'd like a replay, there's huge tyre marks there. Oh wtf. So Nico actually hit Karthikeyan's rear right and it launched him in the air. It also cut that wheel clean off Karthikeyan's car. It's entirely Rosberg's mistake I believe. That was a big impact though. We see them discussing, they seem OK. We're 10 laps in.

Hopefully Lewis gets a good restart... On the radio he says there's still too much debris on the track. I think Seb's front wing has been changed. Ohhh fuck the marshals are on the track so close to the cars... They're gesturing to them to slow down and stay on the right. I really hate that shit. OH WTF SEB HIT THE WALL? He swerved and he had to hit actually the DRS sign to avoid Ricciardo? Oh so no, he didn't pit yet but now he's probably gonna have to. For the second time his mechanics are out and we see them go back in. Lewis asks "is whoever crashed okay?", his engineer says yes, both drivers are out of the cars and okay. Annnnd third time, for Seb, mechanics out, and yeah, he pits. They struggle to get the old nose off a bit. 9.1 seconds but it's under safety car at least.

On lap 15, they're racing again. Webber and Alonso are fighting each other over 4th place. Lewis is a healthy distance away from Raikkonen. Seb was back down in 21st after his stop but he made up two places already. And two more. Impressive! Lewis sets the fastest lap.

NO. FUCKING NO.

NO.

no I refuse.

Oh come on.

20 laps in his car stopped. I can't fucking believe this I'm so pissed off. Yeah see he was talking about driving that car and thinking the one he's going to is so much slower but

Fuck

That

Car

Fuck it. Entirely. The W13 is annoying but I think it's misunderstood. That car though is FUCKING SHIT. I hate that car with all I have. Even more than the ‘09 one because at least the ‘09 one was terrible consistently. With this one you never know what you get. What's its name so I know who I hate. Here you go : it's the MP4-27.

Fuck the MP4-27 to the moon and back.

(sorry I'm losing my mind)

Lmao Webber made contact with Maldonado trying to overtake him and he spun. Schadenfreude or whatever. Jenson unsurprisingly does the job better and he's up in third place. (I don't even know why I don't like Webber I just don't)

Now Webber is racing Massa for 6th place and there was contact again? Yep. And then Massa spun.

With his early stop Seb is now P2 but he'll have to stop again, of course. Jenson is chasing Alonso for virtually P2 then.

I'm barely watching to be honest, but now Di Resta overtakes Grosjean for 5th while Perez is 0.2 behind and guess what? It's another accident. Perez is side by side with Di Resta he gets pushed wide rejoins and makes contact with Grosjean and he spins. Webber swerved to avoid Grosjean but made contact with him and he's out. Grosjean is out. And there's debris on the track. This race is a MESS. Safety Car.

So that's 6 DNFs and 16 laps to go but who's counting.

And here they go again. Perez got a stop and go penalty. Vettel stopped at some point and he's behind Jenson now but it's close. 5 laps to go. Awww he overtook him. Italian radio to Alonso again.

And it's the end of the race.

Raikkonen wins, Alonso P2, Seb P3. I mean. Seb went from P24 to P3 I don't even know what to say about that.

Alright let's hear Lewis’ BBC post race interview then. Mackenzie says sports can be cruel, he was driving a faultless race and then it was taken away from him through not fault of his own. Of course he starts by saying it wasn't faultless, he went wide at some point.

But after that it was going really well, and the car was a dream to drive he was cruising and still pulling away and unfortunately the engine died. "But anyway" he says.

He got to watch the race and it was an interesting one, it was good to watch. She asks what positives he can take away to Austin because still, it was a strong weekend. They have upgrades coming for the next race (so late in the season?!).

He really hopes the cars will perform as well as they have this weekend in the last two races so they can get back in the front and maybe win one last time.

He's still very happy with the job he did here (as he should, it was really good, McLaren is just not on his level anymore).

Now let's move to the Skysports’ one then.

To them he says it was going very well and then he had what they think was a fuel pump problem. The engine just died. He's gutted because obviously he had "a pretty decent pace..."

He fumbles for a minute there trying not to say it as it is but basically he was about to fucking win and he knows it, you know it, I know it, everybody knows he would have won. "Nonetheless the team did a great job" and the race was exciting to watch. He says it’s incredible how Seb came up from the pitlane.

"I don't know how... That's gotta be the luckiest person in Formula 1!" he laughs. Babe that's not luck that's talent but it's okay don't worry about it.

Phew. That's it for Abu Dhabi. See you in Texas!

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