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tethered-heartstrings · 9 months ago
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Hey there, I wondered if you had any particular recommendation for hannigram fics? Like, fanfics so good that you wished everyone else would read?
Thanks anyway, and I wish you a very nice time of the day!
i am so sorry i am not a good person to ask x.x with what little free time i do have, i spend so much of it working on my own fics that i don't have a lot of time to read others
but thank you and hope you have a good time of day as well! happy fic hunting
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blorbocedes · 10 months ago
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wanted to point out"knowing when to quit" is valid for family and personal reasons, plus the fact that he felt fulfilled in nico's case (and i see why rivals would 👀👀 at the lack of ambition, which isnt fair but i get it) but i don't see how the whole thing of quitting when at the top is supposed to be better than not as if 41 yrs old fernando wasn't still elite or lewis whose 2023 was better than some of his championship years imo, the both of them in mid cars and better than most of the grid. i don't think they're chasing ghosts, they clearly still enjoy what they do, and they're good at it. winning isn't everything, retirement just comes down to what an athlete really wants and feels like, not where they are in their career
as i was writing this i realized i couldn't think of anyone from that gen outside of lewis and fernando who hasn't gone out sad lmao so idk
you misunderstand me. I'm not saying every driver should retire immediately after winning, I'm talking about framing and how certain decisions can be viewed, acceptance and fulfilment in f1
they're absolutely excellent drivers, and have lucked into staying in good cars (lewis more than fernando) and worked hard into staying in good form along with their natural talent. they're easily better than most of the grid.
but you're absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think fernando isn't chasing ghosts. Fernando retired from f1 in 2018 in that mclaren scoring 50 points in the championship.
He won Le Mans twice and Daytona in 2018/2019, before he came back to f1 because he still believes in that 33rd win and 3rd championship. if drivers only drove for how they felt like and not where they are in their career, then fernando wouldn't have quit f1 if he was in a better car.
The last time Fernando won a race is in 2013, more 10 years ago, and he keeps posting 33 because he believes, even I'm rooting for it too. But it is absolutely chasing a dream that only now this last year's Aston's early performance gives us recency bias of hope.
likewise, lewis and toto have affirmed multiple times that their goal is the 8th wdc. it's not so much as a ghost as the mythical 8th wdc that no one in the sport has done and lewis has to believe he can because his whole career has been achieving the unthinkable.
yes ofc they enjoy racing, and they're some of the best at it, but this conversation is about world champions and neither of them would keep on driving if they weren't chasing that championship/win. the win (for champion drivers) IS everything.
so what happens if fernando wins the 33rd? or 3rd championship? he will gun for the 34th, 4th championship, and he will be 50 years old, driving in circles until he can accept that it isn't coming. that's when drivers retire... in f1 from what we have seen if you're a world champion you can only retire when you're no longer on top of the game and have accepted it. nico was the only one who didn't.
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bestworstcase · 5 months ago
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Tbh I don't think anyone's saying that Oz has Never Done Anything Wrong Ever, or at least, personally, that's not my belief.
While personally I believe that Oz hasn't tried actually destroying Salem or erasing her from anyone knowing about her at all, I ALSO believe that Salem Is Not an irredeemable monster. I do believe she's trying to overthrow the gods rn, and that she hates the sword of damocles that is the mandate and has been trying to keep Oz from summoning the gods up until now (bc yknow, why wouldn't she try keeping the Relics from him??).
Plus, her fear wouldn't be unfounded (I still believe Oz was gunning for the task for a long time), and the narrative of "Salem is right" can still easily happen. Plus it's not like Oz is innocent; 1. He lied to Salem for their entire marriage 2. He decided to gun for the task Light gave him 3. Hasn't even tried communicating with Salem and 4. Has demonized her in his mind and to those in his circle. Both and neither are at fault imo. Oz fucked up big time, and he knows this, but the belief Salem hates him and his own self hate is keeping him from Actually Doing Anything. I think this also goes for Salem, fear and possibly self hate keeping her from communicating.
I just come from the perspective that both fucked up, Oz a bit more than Salem ofc. I just think that Oz isn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be. Like, this probably sounds really rude so I'm sorry in advance (/gen), but I feel like Oz being paranoid for No Reason and constantly trying to destroy Salem or erase her from public knowledge and demonizing her for No Reason beyond his own paranoia and unwillingness to change makes him seem... almost cartoonishly bad. Like it makes him sound like an abusive husband 100x worse than Adam and Jacques combined. And beyond that, it makes Salem seem completely innocent pre-war, that she was just dealing with her Abusive Husband who's delusional and paranoid.
To me, it doesn't feel nuanced, or at least as nuanced. I DO like the idea, but only as an AU. Not only that but I feel like it'd be really unfriendly to casual fans, people who don't do analysis n stuff, bc unless you bother analyzing every 2 second scene, you won't pick a lot of this up. And this is in terms of the writers, not you lol. Rwby IS meant to be analyzed, but not a lot of people will bother, and those who do haven't exactly picked any of this up.
I do think they're good theories to have though. Really it just gives me an excuse to re-analyze scenes and see if my thinking is flawed. I mean, if it's straight up Confirmed that your theories are right, then I'll be like "Oh, huh, I was wrong". I figured I'd just give insight to what people are probably saying bc I haven't seen anyone say that Oz is an innocent uwu wet paper bag. Cause he's NOT innocent, but I just don't think he's as bad or evil as people insist he is. And I do my best to analyze without any form of bias. I *did* come to the same conclusion about Salem lol.
Anyways sorry, this got long dhchvj. I hope I don't sound rude, I'm really tone blind (autism), I'm just doing my best to give insight to what people think. Cause trust me, it annoys me just as much as you to see people try to claim that Oz is innocent or that Salem is an irredeemable abusive witch. Cause obv neither is true lmao.
I hope you have a good day :] /gen
you’re fine. 
the core issue i have with the reasoning laid out here is that it demands a presupposition that oz is… well, a miserable spineless cowardly fraud who’s spent untold millennia pretending to believe in a pointless cause that he knows he will never lift a finger to advance in any meaningful sense. because it’s made quite clear that ozpin’s inner circle believes that they’ve been at war with salem for decades, that the huntsmen academies are fortresses oz built not to merely defend the relics but specifically to "stop salem"—that’s the language qrow uses in V4 and oz echoes it in V5—and that this is what oz has been doing for centuries if not   thousands of years, fighting to protect remnant from salem. 
the way qrow discusses the great war in both WOR and V4 insinuates that the conflict was really a proxy war between oz and salem, glynda chides ironwood by telling him "ozpin has experience the rest of us lack," in V3 the inner circle tells pyrrha "we are the protectors of this world" and "our group was founded [hundreds of years ago] to protect both mankind and the maidens" by "remov[ing] the maidens from the public eye, allowing their existence to fade away into legend." or as qrow puts it in V2, "we’re the ones that keep the world safe from the evils no one even knows about!"—i.e., from salem—"[which is] why we meet behind closed doors, why we work in the shadows."
now, while ozpin’s difficult relationship with the truth means we do need to be skeptical as to the veracity of these historical claims… the inner circle is circumspect on the details, but they’re not lying or misrepresenting the purpose of their group. they earnestly believe these things because this what ozpin told them, and in V5 we see oz recount the same general narrative to team RNJR: "i am the combination of countless men who have spent their lives trying to protect the people of remnant […] this curse was bestowed on me by the gods because i failed to stop salem in the past, but we must stop her now."
so there is no ambiguity at all about the story oz tells his closest allies: he is trying to protect the world from an ancient hidden evil called salem, who defeated him once in the distant past but can be stopped now by keeping the relics out of her hands, and in order to do that it is essential to keep the relics and the maidens secret (lest world rip itself apart in wars to claim this incredible power) and likewise to ensure that salem’s existence remains hidden (lest everyone panic and be wiped out by grimm). oz and his inner circle frame this as an secret struggle that has been ongoing for centuries, if not thousands of years. 
his inner circle had no reason to disbelieve what ozpin told them prior to jinn’s tale. and even after the lost fable, no one questions the narrative that oz has been fighting salem for a very long time. "ozpin believed that the best way to fight salem was to do it in secret," says ironwood. "ozpin spent his whole life, many lives, keeping this secret," says qrow. later in V7, ironwood describes salem as "an ancient and terrible evil," and in V8 ruby says "this isn’t some new enemy or invading kingdom, this is a force we’ve faced before, for centuries… salem."
for the moment we’ll just accept the presupposition that salem’s war against the huntsmen academies began with the attack on amber following perhaps a decade of planning and careful preparation, incited by whatever happened when she met summer rose, and that before that time salem was not actively participating in shadow war. 
if this is taken to be true, the question with regard to how ozma has spent all this time becomes: do we believe that he’s been doing what he says he has—trying to "stop salem" by guarding the relics and keeping all these secrets—or not? because it is undeniably true that this is what ozma CLAIMS to have been doing for centuries if not millennia. when ozpin tells people this story about who he is and what he’s spent lifetimes trying to do, is it because he genuinely believes that he and salem have been embroiled in a secret cold war all this time, or… is he just lying?
why would he lie about that? 
consider the things he definitely did lie about. why didn’t he tell anyone that salem can’t be killed? he feared they would fall into despair and give up, lose all hope and the will to keep fighting. why did he lie about his personal history with salem? he believes loving her is his greatest mistake ("the hearts of men are easily swayed" etc) and he feels ashamed, guilty, regretful, desperate to make amends yet certain she will never forgive him and terrified that even if she did it would doom the world—the truth is messy and complicated and he’s convinced that what he wants is evil, so he buries it. 
why, then, would he pretend to still be fighting her when he actually isn’t? if ozma had, at some point, resolved this inner turmoil on the side of "salem was right, the god of light is wrong, i am not going to fulfill my task and will instead dedicate my existence to insuring that the relics are never brought together, the best way to protect remnant is by rejecting the gods and their redemption," why would he lie about that? why would he continue to promote faith in the two brothers and the final judgment he foretold long ago (ozpin includes this story in his anthology with notes urging his readers to believe in it and to act each day as if the gods will return tomorrow)? why keep telling his closest allies, his friends, life after life, that he was sent to remnant by the gods themselves to stop salem from changing the world? 
why wouldn’t he change course?—and i want to be very clear that i’m not asking why he wouldn’t seek reconciliation with salem, because emotionally that’s quite a lot harder. but if he decided the divine mandate was bullshit and he wasn’t going to follow it any longer, why would he not… er… stop telling people that the brothers are the Real True Gods who left behind these divine relics which he is put on this world to keep safe until the final judgment? 
ozma strove to keep salem and the relics a secret for lifetimes—and ozpin was stridently opposed to revealing the truth, we see him and his inner circle balk at the idea time and again explicitly because ozpin insists that secrecy is essential to stopping salem, so we have no reason to doubt that he really did feel strongly that keeping these secrets kept people safe—so in the event he changed his mind and came to believe that the brothers were enemies of humanity who must be kept at bay… surely he would shut his mouth. 
but the brothers and their final judgment aren’t a secret! ozpin published that story in a book of fairytales with a commentary telling his readers to prepare themselves to be judged! after jinn’s tale, nobody freaks out about the divine threat of execution should mankind prove unworthy because they already knew that part; it’s the mainstream doctrine of a well-known religion that exists all around the world, which qrow and ozpin had already told them was real and true. 
oz is not a bad person. he certainly isn’t some sort of craven charlatan who’s spent thousands of years exhorting the world to believe in and follow a creed he secretly opposes—even if he still believed that salem was dangerous and needed to be stopped, it would be so simple to cast the gods as dangerous adversaries who must also be prevented from ever coming back. 
like, he wants people to live. he wants the world to be safe, even if at the cost of his own happiness. that is always what ozma is trying to achieve—even during the ozlem kingdom, he sacrificed the happiness he’d found with salem in their little cottage to try uniting the world with her because he truly, genuinely believed his happiness came at the cost of humanity’s salvation. 
it follows that the reason ozpin tells his close allies that it is his god-given task to stop salem by keeping the relics out of her grasp whilst striving for unity and keeping all this a secret, he does so because he truly, genuinely believes that it’s the best way to protect the world. likewise, when he uses his public platform as the headmaster of a prestigious academy to publish an anthology of tales, including the one about the two brothers that articulates the divine mandate exactly, upon which he comments this: 
We have a fragile peace, and in some ways, we are more divided than ever. Even if the gods aren’t real, even if they don’t return to judge us for our deeds, we should act each day as though they are arriving tomorrow. In the end, we will be the arbiters of our fates. We will either create a beautiful, peaceful world and live in harmony together or destroy ourselves and our planet, and the gods will judge what we have chosen.
ozpin really earnestly does believe that proselytizing the brothers, imploring everyone to live as if the gods will return for the final judgment tomorrow, while keeping salem, the maidens, and the relics secret, is necessary and the best way to keep people safe. he wouldn’t be doing this if he thought it didn’t protect people!
so the story he tells his inner circle about WHAT he does—his purpose, his methods, his strategy—is true. it must be true because it would be both reprehensible and beyond foolish for ozpin to convince his allies they’re fighting in a war he knows isn’t real for a cause he doesn’t actually believe in, and ozpin is neither reprehensible nor stupid.
it follows that ozpin a) believes he has been fighting a protracted covert war over the relics with salem since the ages, and b) can be taken at his word when he says that insuring the relics and salem’s existence remain secret is an essential part of his strategy, especially because without fail he prioritizes secrecy above every other concern throughout V1-6 so he’s very much putting his money where his mouth is in that regard.
in V3, the inner circle makes the claim that their predecessors ("this brotherhood"), centuries ago, chose to "remove the maidens from the public eye, allowing them to fade away into legend." while i do have my doubts about the historical accuracy of that claim—a) the nature of the maiden inheritance rules would make it very difficult to keep the maidens under wraps and b) i think it’s more likely that ozma always intended for the maidens to act covertly, didn’t know what would happen when the first four died, and only pieced it together after a few centuries had gone by and he started to hear stories about young women blessed with magical power and went "…ah."—i don’t think there’s any reason to doubt that the maidens became a fairytale because ozma decided they should be kept secret. 
neither oz nor his inner circle make an exactly equivalent claim about salem… but. the situations are quite similar: the maidens were once "common knowledge," and when ozma first reincarnated he traveled around for years hearing tales of "the witch" wherever he went. some time long ago, ozma and his allies undertook to suppress public knowledge of the maidens, and in the present the last trace remaining is an old fairytale that no one could believe holds any real truth. as for salem, no one knows about her anymore either, and "ozpin spent all his life, many lives keeping this secret." 
the existence of the relics, similarly, is a secret because ozma chose to keep them secret—although the crown seems to have passed through at least a few pairs of hands before ozma tracked it down, hence the fairytale. (this is a subject for another post, but i actually don’t think 'the indecisive king' is about ozma—ozpin’s commentary on it is VERY impersonal and perfunctory compared to what he has to say about 'the infinite man,' 'the girl in the tower,' 'the story of the seasons,' or even 'the grimm child.' i think the original inspiration for the tale was some other person who had the crown before ozma found it, and he included the story because, as he says, he thinks it has an important message.)
so, basically, in the present ozpin and his inner circle are hiding three big secrets: the maidens, the relics, and salem. it’s stated outright that the maidens are secret because ozma and his allies chose to hide them from the world. 
of the relics, three are entirely unknown and one is the subject of a single fairytale of which the reliability is unknown (although my bet is on "the real crown isn’t that straightforward and may not actually work like that at all"); oz has been in possession of all four for at least fifty or so years. we know he found the lamp first, thousands of years ago, that he used both the sword and the crown to end the great war eighty years ago, and ozpin raised atlas using the staff. it’s very likely that he found the other three much earlier. the fairytale inspired by the crown suggests that one might have eluded him for a while.
in any case, once he had them all (and a few centuries had gone by to allow the story about the crown to be forgotten as anything but a fiction), ozma would’ve had nearly absolute power to decide who knew about them—salem being the only other person who could tell anyone, and at the time she didn’t know anything more than "there are four relics of some kind, somewhere in the world, that will call the gods to remnant to judge humankind if they’re ever brought together."
so the relics, too, are secret because ozma decided to keep them secret.
this leaves salem. before the rise and fall of the ozlem kingdom, she lived on the fringes of civilization and knowledge of her existence was widespread. (her decrepit house sat at the end of a paved, well-maintained footpath—she was within walking distance of the nearest town and did not make herself remotely difficult to find.) thousands of years later? nothing but fairytales that are, like 'the story of the seasons' and 'the indecisive king,' either believed to be entirely fictional or (in the case of 'the grimm child') about a real, if very rare, phenomenon unrelated to salem herself. 
this is not something that could have happened at all if salem hadn’t withdrawn from civilization as far as she did��which is one of the core reasons i think she hasn’t been at war with ozma all this time—so she tacitly allowed it to happen. but why did she withdraw so far? 
here is the part where it gets murky and highly speculative because we just don’t know what happened or where she went or what she did in those first few hundred years after the ozlem kingdom fell. it is plausible that salem just ran and kept running until she’d gotten as far away from people as it was possible to get, and stayed there in self-imposed isolation until, well, now—in which case ozma’s effort to suppress the knowledge of her existence would have mainly entailed not telling anyone about her and maybe destroying bits and pieces of the historical record. 
(i do think he’s made an active effort to keep her secret all this time, regardless: that is his first priority at all times until jinn spills the beans in V6, and if he can’t keep the world safe by destroying her then making sure the world doesn’t know she exists is the obvious Plan B. if nobody knows about her, no one can piss off the gods by siding with her. it’s really more a question of whether she put up a fight.)
hooowever. salem is a character defined by loneliness and longing for freedom, which to her explicitly means connection with others. love. companionship. this is why the gods punish her by making her immortal—separating her from the one she loves forever—and then when she overcomes that by going out into the world and turning her immortality into a gift that brings her closer to people and allows her to form new alliances and friendships, rather than a curse imprisoning her in isolation, the gods just. kill everyone. and leave her alone in the ashes. 
and as i said, even when salem is miserably isolating herself before ozma, she isn’t that far away from civilization—she’s living by herself but close enough to somewhere that she could walk into town, and her presence there was not only well-known but welcomed enough that people built a road right to her doorstep. this during a period of her life when she was so profoundly depressed that her house was rotting and falling apart around her! 
the point is that while salem does inarguably have self-isolating tendencies, i… don’t think hers are anywhere close to being as severe as ozma’s. his rendition of himself in 'the story of the seasons' may well be more poetic than literal ("So cold was his heart that the lands around him were covered in snow, the trees were bare, and animals and Creatures of Grimm alike avoided him. For centuries, no one dared disturb his peace…"), but at the time ozma certainly would have had the magical power to freeze all the land for miles around to keep people away from him, and even if it’s only a metaphor for how he felt then the implication is that he hid himself away in total solitude for possibly multiple consecutive lifetimes…
…whereas salem, at her absolute lowest, in the darkest depths of her self-isolating depression, lived by herself a short way from the edge of some town whose residents were probably rather wary of her (she’s not exactly friendly, nor human, and everyone knows she’s a witch) but nevertheless accepted her as a member of their community (because salem certainly wasn’t the one bothering to take care of that path). 
the way things ended between her and ozma, his deception, the deaths of their children, their kingdom collapsing, all of this was extremely traumatic for her and haunts her to this day just as ozma; i have no trouble at all believing that salem would flee to the edge of the world in the immediate aftermath. 
but i find it a lot more difficult to believe that she would stay there for thousands upon thousands of years if the only thing preventing her from returning to the margins of civilization were her own guilt and self-hatred. the gods punishing her by murdering the whole world, being completely alone for hundreds of millions of years, grimming herself, and the way humans would have treated her in an era when faunus were hunted down and caged like beasts wasn’t enough to drive salem into exile. i don’t believe her self-loathing, by itself, is strong enough to overpower her desperation to be free for very long.
i also really doubt that ozma would just, for lack of a better word, trust her to stay gone. especially not if—as jinn implies—he believed salem kept finding him somehow and sending grimm after him, which probably wasn’t true (her command over the grimm seems to be restricted to the ones she makes, and the incarnations we see in this part of the lost fable were not at all significant persons easily identifiable as ozma), but it isn’t an unreasonable fear for him to have? given how badly things ended between them. 
we know salem doesn’t like, obsessively devote her time to scrying until she’s found ozma again (because she doesn’t bother to do that after ozpin dies, she’s caught completely off guard by oscar—and if she doesn’t do so while she is actively waging war against him, it’s unlikely that it ever crossed her mind to try it at all, or else her scrying just doesn’t work that way), but ozma doesn’t have any way of knowing that. we know salem doesn’t control every grimm in the world, and oz seems to have figured that out eventually, but in those first few centuries before he found the lamp? he had no idea what salem might be capable of, what powers she might have hidden from him!
like it isn’t that ozma has No Reason to be paranoid. he knows that he hurt her really badly and that when salem gets hurt she lashes out, often in extremely vindictive and extremely violent ways. (he has no way of knowing that salem has spent these thousands of years clawing her temper under control, and no reason to think she would try.) he probably had no idea to what extent salem being grimm might be influencing her thinking—that’s where all the really deep distortions start to take root, ozma anxiously second-guessing every little thing like were there warning signs i ignored? was he right? did i let infatuation blind me to what she’d become from the very start?—by the time he finds the lamp, assuming jinn didn’t skip over any lives, he’s on his fourth life since the end; that’s a span of like, at least two to three hundred years depending how long he lived and how much time it took him to reincarnate each time. 
that is plenty enough time to convince himself she’s nothing but an evil monster who needs to be put down before he finds the lamp, and then he immediately uses his three questions for that lifetime so it would be another full century after that before he had the opportunity to ask jinn anything about… what salem is doing now, or what she lied to him about, or if she told him the truth after all. which is a terrifying prospect to even consider after a) multiple centuries marinating in an inescapable anxiety torment nexus echo chamber and b) hearing she can’t be destroyed, period. like what if the truth turns out to be "yeah the pool of grimm destroyed her soul and also she wants to burn the world to the ground and eat your heart now because you ruined her FOREVER!!! and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to fix her. you stupid fuck." like his cursed haunted brain keeps screaming at him 24/7?!
so.
we don’t really know anything about this period of time before ozma went after the lamp, except that "no matter where or how he lived, her presence was always felt." jinn combines that with a memory of two beowolves attacking ozma’s town to insinuate that salem kept sending grimm after him, or at least that ozma believed as much. 
but. but—"during his years of travel, he heard the same frightened whispers that spoke of a terrifying sorceress who commanded dark powers in the wilds, among the beasts and monsters. ozma was convinced that this woman was salem, and decided that he needed to see what she had become."
"but no matter where or how he lived, her presence was always felt. if humanity were ever to stand a chance at being united, one thing was clear… [he had to destroy salem.] knowing he could never rid the world of her through any mortal means, ozma sought out the power of the relics: armed with my knowledge, he believed he could fulfill his promise to the god of light."
<- these are parallel statements. everywhere he travels, he hears stories about a witch; no matter where or how he lives, her presence is always felt. ozma was convinced that this terrifying sorceress was salem; ozma grew convinced that he had to destroy salem for humanity’s sake. he needed to see what she had become; he needed to find the lamp to guide him. see the repetition? the echo?
i don’t think salem just vanished into the wilderness. i imagine she ran pretty fucking far, but remnant is a big world and there are people all over—there have even been people living in the southern region of the now-uninhabited continent where salem presumably lives, based on the map shown in WOR: vale. 
(the markers for those settlements are red in color; all the other markers are color-coded to the kingdoms, orange for vacuo, green for vale, while for atlas, blue for mistral, yellow for menagerie and what i assume are a couple of faunus settlements in southern anima, with tracks with the white fang’s headquarters being located vaguely in anima. in the blood-splattered map in the great war episode, there’s a fire burning in the southern peninsula of the uninhabited continent—implying battles were fought there and possibly that some of those red settlements existed as recently as eighty years ago. 
i turn this over in my mind a lot. it doesn’t make any sense to me to think that salem could have been remotely present in civilization anywhere within the past century, but rwby is so particular about color that the only reason to choose red for the now-defunct(?) settlements on the continent where salem lives would be to imply some degree of association with her, and if a WHOLE KINGDOM had been destroyed i think that would have been mentioned so these were probably just free towns and villages—possibly with a loose connection to vacuo? it’s sort of the logical place for displaced peoples from vacuo to wind up after fleeing their conquered kingdom. and in that case their "connection" to salem might be nothing more than her having taken pity on a bunch of refugees with nowhere else to go and kept the grimm off their backs until the great war…happened. but i would like to know.)
…the point being, i think "her presence was always felt" because salem, after some decades, maybe a century, hating herself deep in the wilderness, crept back to lurking on the periphery of civilization because a) ozma was gone and she had no idea where, when, or even if he would ever come back again and b) no matter how determined she is to punish herself, she just isn’t capable of wallowing in abject misery forever, even when she was the only person alive with absolutely no hope she kept moving until she found something to try.
so naturally people would have kept gossiping about the terrifying dark witch who lives in the woods among the beasts and monsters, and ozma would have known it was her. imagine if he’d reincarnated for the second or third time, wound up on a different continent altogether, and immediately started hearing the exact same sort of frightened whispers as before? even if it was pure unfortunate coincidence and salem did not have the slightest idea he was there, how terrifying that would be? and if salem didn’t want him to find her because she was scared or ashamed or angry or all three, then she couldn’t stay in any one place for too long—so this sort of indirect crossing paths oh-gods-she’s-already-found-me nightmare scenario could conceivably happen more than once.
(frankly, even if salem wanted nothing to do with him and was trying her level to avoid him without just never being able to come within sight of another person again, i think her not vanishing forever makes ozma’s intense paranoia so much more understandable because like. very literally, no matter where he lived, her presence would always be there—rumors, frightened whispers, everywhere. of course he’d start seeing her in the shadow of every grimm!)
i don’t think they’ve ever actually come face-to-face since that night—maybe glimpsed each other from afar across a battlefield, but if they’d met or spoken to each other i imagine it would have been necessary for jinn to show it happening. BUT i do think it’s likelier than not that there were several centuries when salem was legitimately an inescapable presence dogging ozma through life after life because she was just sort of… wandering around in a miserable traumatic haze on the very, very edge of civilization. and people talked about her.
so he went for the lamp, and fell into the depths of despair when jinn crushed whatever passed for his hope at that point. that is, almost certainly, what pushed him into his hermit era. 
now! if the fairytale’s centuries of eternal winter isn’t a pure fiction—if there is even the smallest kernel of literal truth in there as to ozma using magic to force people, animals, and grimm to stay far away from him, then. if salem was not already living in exile, this would have been when she began to hear rumors about him. yes? this is the first thing he does that would rise to the level of local legend salem might possibly hear. 
that his seclusion ended with "and then i met four young women who reminded me how to be a person so i gave them my magic" as opposed to "and then salem turned up with thousands of grimm to murder me and salt the earth" suggests that if she wasn’t living in exile at this time, her interest was probably more in avoiding him than vengeance.
and if that’s so, what does she do upon finally discovering where he is? er, probably travel as far away from the Cursed Wizard Forest as it is geographically feasible to go and decide that this is fine, that’s his continent and this is her continent and they can just stay on opposite sides of the planet until the end of time and never have speak to or see each other again. amen. 
if we take the fairytale literally, several centuries pass. lifetimes. enough time for salem to find somewhere to, if not quite belong, at least become a constant because well she’s been here since before granny was even born and no one knows who or what she is because she doesn’t really talk to anyone, but she’s not hurting anyone either, and legend has it that a goliath once attacked our town and the witch just walked out of the woods and exploded it with a glare, and that’s why grimm never come here, so she’s our witch. maybe enough time to send someone halfway across the world to check on the Cursed Wizard Forest to reassure herself that yes ozma’s still there, he’s not going to come after her and he must have come to his senses about the gods so she’s. safe. ish. as long as no one ever finds those relics. 
the fairytale ends with the hermit dividing his magic among the four maidens, and then he says: "My rest is over. It is time for me to resume my journey and work as well."—they didn’t just resuscitate ozma’s will to live, they restored his faith and his commitment to his task. maybe the world can be saved! maybe he can really do it this time, now that he’s found people willing to help him shoulder the burden!
(i do firmly believe that ozma told the original four maidens about his task and salem’s sworn hatred of the gods and the danger she could pose to the world if he emerged to try again, before offering them magic—as we see in v8, he isn’t naturally predisposed to lie or manipulate people, that’s a pattern he only falls into when he feels hopeless and scared. so i think he and the original maidens planned to gather the relics and get to work on uniting humanity, and the vague fairytale ending is an obfuscation.)
aaand i think that’s when he went after salem, because he emerged from his Cursed Wizard Forest after multiple lifetimes rotting in solitude, filled with new hope and ready to try again to complete his task, immediately tripped face-planted into rumors about the witch in the woods AGAIN and panicked. 
he can’t kill her, he can’t get rid of her… she can’t be stopped but, as oz says to hazel, she can be fought and someone has to try. doesn’t he have to try? if he believes the world can be saved, isn’t it his duty to try?—he knows she’ll never, ever bow to the brothers, she made that excruciatingly clear, and as long as she’s present in the world, as long as people might listen to her about the gods, remnant is doomed. so he has to make her go away. somehow. he has to try.
i think for salem all it would take is once. one time. if she still tried after everything to do what was right, leave him alone and not hurt anyone else and pick up the pieces as best she could. because the thing is, salem blames herself for getting her daughters killed in her anger—that’s why she tries so hard to keep her temper in 6.4—she hates herself for lashing out that night as much as ozma hates himself for the same. that self-blame would counterbalance her anger at ozma: yes he lied to her yes he tricked her yes he attacked her but she attacked him right back and now her children are dead.
how much of a temptation is vengeance with that clawing around in her head?
but if her mindset was like, "that was the most horrible thing that has ever happened to me and the worst thing i’ve ever done, and i don’t understand why he lied to me but i just want it to be done, and he’s over there and i’m over here and we can just. leave each other alone forever," and she found a place for herself where she started to feel maybe almost kind of ok again and then ozma violated the truce she’d invented in her mind but never thought to communicate to him by appearing out of the blue to attack her, completely unprovoked as far as she could tell, and whatever little town or village or even just one single person who’d been kind to her got destroyed in the resulting fight?
that’s an injustice. that’s i did nothing to deserve this, how dare you do this to me. 
and… that’s also, i think, the one thing that would compel salem to willingly cut herself off from all civilization and remain in exile for thousands and thousands of years (because she’s impossible to kill and too powerful to force her out if she decides she’s not going to go gently into the night). her fear of collective punishment. if she thought there was even the smallest chance that ozma might start doing what her father did or what his gods did to anyone close to her, i think she’d go and stay gone until she felt absolutely certain she could take him down forever.
(also theres a certain narrative elegance to the idea that they had their horrible mutual-incineration duel where they were equally matched in every way… and then ozma rotted in isolation while salem tried really hard to be okay and convinced herself they could just stay peacefully at a distance forever, until he found a spark of hope that ignited all his desperation so he went after her and she was blindsided by this truly awful and unfair and egregious thing that he did… and then she rots in isolation and ever-mounting desperation while ozma tries really hard to fix everything and pull the world into a semblance of peace until she finds a spark of hope and blindsides him with this brutally ruthless charge for the relics. 
they explode each other, fly in opposite directions—downward spiral vs picking up the pieces—then reach critical mass and explode again so hard they fully reverse positions and do the whole ordeal again. so it’s both a journey of learning to understand each other and a vicious cycle they can only escape by inversion of the first exactly-equal fight that exploded out of nowhere from a seemingly happy partnership, i.e. both reaching out unexpectedly in the midst of a seemingly inescapable conflict. it’s about symmetry)
This Has Been A Very Long Post Sorry About That. but—all speculation about the details aside—i do strongly feel that the most compassionate reading of ozma is that he is completely sincere about whathe’s trying to achieve (uniting humanity without committing genocide or turning salem into a scapegoat so everyone can be saved including her!!) but has absolutely no idea how to make it happen and has only just, in his second-to-last life as the king of vale, accepted the reality that it isn’t possible, and thence the whole building a replica of salem’s father’s castle to put his office in her tower-prison and hucking his emotionally tortured anthology of fairytales out the proverbial window (you know, like the girl in the tower who writes herself out of danger, coming from mr. fairytales this is a tornado siren of a cry for help) so forth. 
thus what he and his inner circle say about his efforts both past and present is true—he has been actively working to keep salem a secret for as long as the maidens have been hidden if not longer. as long as salem cooperated by not wandering around letting other people see and/or talk to and/or run away screaming in terror from her, what "erasing salem from public knowledge and keeping her existence secret" means, practically speaking, is tracking down any texts that clearly describe her as a real person (not a fairytale) or artistic depictions of her from the ozlem kingdom and destroying Those, and perhaps muddying the waters of all those folktales by inventing new nonsense out of whole cloth or mixing stories about her with other stories that definitely aren’t about her to a) blur the details and b) make it look to future scholars like the witch-in-the-woods was a loose folkloric archetype encompassing a huge variety of different beliefs and superstitions as opposed to one very specific kind of story about one very specific witch. 
which is a bit obsessive and weird but given the fate-of-the-world stakes at play here and the plain unarguable fact that humanity cannot be redeemed if anyone sides with salem against the brothers, which is demonstrably something she can accomplish if given the opportunity, honestly pretty restrained. 
and so the million dollar question is: what does it take for salem to cooperate by staying in exile? is the fight in lost fable and her guilt over her daughters shattering enough to lead her to just give up and hide forever alone?—who knows, right now it’s purely a matter for speculation, but i think the circumstantial evidence suggests "no" more strongly than it does "yes." 
which is not to say that she was the pure innocent victim of an abusive revenge quest, but rather that i think the facts of the situation for her would, in the immediate aftermath, tilt her in a more positive direction (he did a horrible thing but so did she, and she’s survived many horrible things before, and she can’t exactly lay down to die instead so she has to do something, and she doesn’t ever want to see him because it hurts so much and she’s so angry but her anger killed her daughters so she cannot ever let it out again so she’ll just have to stay away from him and live with it) whereas ozma. yknow. Spiraled. and her being elusive but inescapably present in the world make that so much worse, which isn’t either of their faults, it’s just a terrible situation.
it’s like. short of literally stumbling into each other by chance and yelling at each other until it was all Out There. i think no matter WHAT she did, ozma was bound to snap and lash out at her sooner or later because he spent centuries. centuries!!! with all this trauma reverberating and intensifying in his head with no reprieve because there were stories about her everywhere he went.
and then as soon as he does that salem’s lifelong extremely traumatic history with collective punishment and her self-hatred and guilt are going to smash together and she’ll run the fuck away to alternately freak herself out and plot his downfall and tailspin while ozma, meanwhile, after a few centuries of her being gone and the endless rumors fading into just old folktales no one really believes anymore, finally gets the distance he needs to catch his fucking breath—his hermit era doesn’t count he was just ruminating for centuries—so he can focus on other things. and by then keeping her a secret mostly boils down to "don’t talk about her" lmao
his paranoia never really goes away, as we see in 9.10, although he does also get really complacent by ozpin’s time, and i think it’s irrational and grounded in a lot of very wrong conclusions he reached during those first couple centuries of Spiraling—but given what he did and did not know at the time i do also think the reasoning and inferences he made were fairly logical; it becomes irrational over time as the reality of the situation (salem avoiding him) increasingly doesn’t line up with his perception, but as we see in V2-3 ozpin is supremely, irrationally confident that salem is not about to unleash a major attack, which suggests that on some level he’s aware that his paranoid beliefs are unsound even if he hasn’t yet had the conscious realization. he’s right on the cusp. 
& then none of this precludes smaller scale, limited conflicts like e.g. salem assassinating a troublesome member of his inner circle or throwing grimm at people to intensify social conflicts and insure ozma never gets comfortable enough to invite his gods to remnant. i’m very sure that salem has made it a habit to check in on him at regular intervals and cause problems if it looks like he’s doing too well because she Does Not Want him to ever summon his gods. and that’s obviously going to be one-sided because i don’t think ozma actually knows where she’s hiding, and salem’s terror of collective punishment is her own seething bundle of irrational paranoia, because after he digs himself out of Spiraling ozma absolutely would not kill people just because they happened to be near her. 
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SARAH'S RIN-SOCIATION ♡
happy birthday rin ( @dinoes ) !!! i hope today is a wonderful day for you bc you deserve nothing less 🫶🥰 ik we haven't talked much yet but you've been nothing but welcoming and sweet, constantly making me (almost) cry-- in a good way FKDJSJ you're so kind to little ol' me and that means a lot 🥹 you remind me of warm fairy lights in the way i instantly feel peaceful and relaxed around you 🩵💖 can't wait to see what 2024 brings you, and i can only hope i'm around to see it all. ilysm you deserve the most 🫶💛💖🩵
under the cut is a little bday ramble + an explanation for why these idols are associated 🫶
wooyoung - well . the biggest reason for this one is ofc @/wouyoung but other than that ! he's such a warm, goofy and loving person, just like you !! he gives off the vibes of someone who has the ability to make you feel at ease instantly and you are the same !! i know i've told you that i'm someone who is always an admirer from afar bc Shy™, but i really felt like the second we started talking that any nerves i had went out the window immediately bc you were (and still are heh) so kind and open and you're always engaging with me and my thoughts and you don't mind my (sometimes nervous) ramblings
dongheon - now look, i can't exactly explain this one KSJDG but for some reason when i think of who i associate with you, heoni is like . right up there? both of you are really happy people, always ready to be silly seconds after some serious moments and it's a really nice ability to have within your personality. dongheon might not be a bias you have out of the vrvr boys, but he's a rin dude in my head 🤭 (+ your octopus comment reminded me of heoni being the same<3)
jongho - putting him in my pocket alongside you so you'll have company in there 🥰💖 that brief time you had your url changed to jongsan too really cemented them into my head as rin dudes too (and bc he's obvi a bias !)
yongseung - bc he's in your carrd !! and he's a funky lil dude, and from the bits i know of you and have seen on your blog / on the dash, it's no question that yongs would be a bias, at least for me. he's like dongheon in the sense of "this is a rin dude" without having a proper explination? plus imo all hwanwoong biasers are bound to bias yongseung too<3 KJSDGH idk it makes sense, they're debut besties in the way vrvr and oneus debuted the same day AND in the way that hwanwoong and yongseung are friends too !! (took them forever to get each other's numbers bc vrvr only had emails but SDJFGHK)
san - i would like to give him a hug and so like . a BIG hug to you too 🥺 + there's always ppl out there saying that san is intimidating and before i got to talking to you, in my head, you were kinda the same bc it felt like you were such a big presence, y'know? and while, to me, you still have that big presence, the "intimidation" has more moved to "i've just befriended this giant puppy dog who's the most affectionate"? if that makes any sense AT ALL LMAO i don't blame you if none of my sentences make sense to you
hwanwoong - he's just a little dude. lmao jk i kid (or do i?) but he's got such a fierce determination and such a strong power behind himself and idk i get the same feeling from you and that makes me smile. plus your hwanwoong url too LMAO
tbh all of these guys could have a "they're so nice and warm and kind and welcoming and i love them a lot just like you" attached to them and it'd be 100% true !!! so i'm sorry about some of them being longer than the others 😭 anyways, again happy birthday beloved ! i hope today was / is a good one bc you deserve it 🥰🥺💗💛
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ahgasegotarmy116 · 4 months ago
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How would you classify yours and your friends love interest types? What aspects do you think differ from your and their bias types? And based on your/their love types would you say should be their romantic interest in the top three groups of your favorites?
Oh gosh our love interests? Like irl? 😂
(I'm not gonna edit this cuz it took way too long but I hope this answers your questions lol)
I hate to say this but tbh a majority of my friends are single and aren't really interested in anyone 😅
I guess in terms of what their love interests might be like if they had one I would say one of my best friends would like someone who can keep up with her socially so like going out to clubs and parties occasionally but also being okay just staying home and relaxing. I feel like she stretches herself pretty thin a lot so being with someone who is content slowing things down a bit sometimes I think would be very important.
We have the same ult bias (Jungkook as you could probably tell from my writing lol) and we both love how endearing and sweet he can be but also how genuinely hilarious he is and many many more of his personality traits (and also the fact that he's insanely attractive and talented ofc but those are just added bonuses lol)
We've both been fans for yearssss like I'm pretty much about to hit like six years of being an Army (sometime within the next few weeks lol idk exactly when) so I joined the fandom like maybe a month or two before Love Yourself: Answer came out in 2018.
I think she's been a fan since The Most Beautiful Moments in Life pt 2 in 2015 so shit like nine almost ten years.
We actually met through a TikTok live stream! We were both on this guy's live stream and he accidentally clicked on her profile and said she was really cute and he's like "Yo everyone jump on my discord" so we did and he was too shy to talk to her and just decided to start live streaming a video game he was playing and I was like "Well if you're not gonna talk to her then I am" and we've been friends ever since 😂
Sorry lmao you didn't as for the origin story of our friendship but I think it's so funny how we met so I like to talk about it sometimes since it so unique (to my understanding lmao)
But yeah anyways getting back to your questions...
In terms of my love interest I also don't have one since I don't really go out much since I'm pretty introverted and keep things low key so my self aware delulu love interest is Jungkook 😂
I would say the kind of guy I would be interested in is someone kind, considerate and also really funny. I do prefer someone who can joke around but someone who doesn't mind talking about serious topics or even not talking at all like being comfortable in a comfortable silence but I guess I would also like to have someone that would take me out of my comfort zone.
Like going out on dates and doing things together not saying that they have to be extravagant or anything but yeah just cheesy dates like an amusement park or an arcade. Stuff like that. Also if they're romantic that would help since I'm not the lovey dovey type it would be nice to feel comfortable being vulnerable with someone like that.
Idk I guess I could go on and on about what I would like in a guy but those are some of the main things.
My goodness your questions are very difficult to answer haha but my top three groups would definetly be BTS, TXT and Got7 (although I don't really listen to Got7 anymore since they're not active as a group atm 🥲 but they were the first group that got me into kpop)
For her in terms of who her romantic interest would be in each group well I guess I should tell you her biases first. Jungkook from BTS, Yeonjun from TXT and tbh I don't know who her Got7 bias is but if I had to take a guess it would probably be JayB but don't quote me on that one lol
I would say that Hobi might match her energy a little bit more than Jungkook (Hobi is her bias wrecker) since Hobi (from a fan's perspective) seems like a person who can definetly keep up with her socially since she loves to go dancing and loves night life and I feel like Hobi thrives in that element and the fact that he's funny would definetly be something she would love.
Yeonjun again seems like a person who is very outgoing when he feels he can let his guard down and seems like a social butterfly and loves to party and have fun (again from a fan's perspective but I have no clue if he's actually like that)
And Got7 I might say she'd be interested in someone like Yugyeom since again he seems outgoing and funny once he feels like he can relax, dance have fun.
Idk man without her here it's kinda hard to tell especially since all we talk about in terms of boys are kpop idols and the occasional guys she meets when she goes out but they're more like "Oh this guy was so cute" or "I danced with this guy" but it never goes further than that for the most part lmao.
My biases are Jungkook from BTS, Yeonjun from TXT and Mark from Got7
For me in BTS I would say (because I'm biased but also believe it) my love interest based off of what I said would definetly be Jungkook. I mean man's is so freaking introverted it's hilarious. Like he said that one time he didn't leave his house for like seven days and I've definetly been there and done that before so I get it. He's also really funny, kind and considerate but knows how to have fun so yeah I feel like we can match each other's energy.
For my love interest in TXT I might say Soobin? He seems a lot more reserved than the other members and maybe a little shy at time (I'm not like super into TXT but that's the vibe he gives off from a casual fan's perspective lol) and I feel like because of that if we were in like a party/club setting (which I'm hardly ever in) I might step up and be more outgoing like talking to people and introducing him into the conversation so yeah I would think that we would compliment each other like that but it could be the opposite like he might step up and be more social and try to bring me into the conversation so basically we would both make sure that we both have fun no matter what
In Got7 I would say Mark does match my energy but maybe being with someone who is a little bit more outgoing like Jinyoung would be fun! Like something about this man that I love is that he has an incredible resting bitch face and just can't help but judge people but like silently but he also seems like a respectful guy. I wouldn't say he's shy but it seems like he doesn't go out of his way to be social with people but can be when in a social environment.
I honestly would just love to be a wallflower with him and gossip about everyone at the party but like just between the two of us and it would never be anything harmful but just like funny stuff that we observe while were there like "Did you see the way he was looking at her" or "They are not happy that he showed up" or "Is her ex trying to hook up with her tonight?" stuff like that but just between the two of us because who doesn't gossip with their partner 😂
But yeah I think that's it! This was so hard to answer ngl but I tried my best 😅
Hope you liked my answers even though they were probably a bit boring 🤣
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euclydya · 1 year ago
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hmmmmm character bingo for Authority and Titus <3
- @mansplainmanipulatemalewife
VIRBATING OK OK O KO K OK OK. OK. UNDER THE CUT NGKFMGDMGKG
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^ ME WHEN AUTH. ME WH. ME WHEN
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I TRIED TO STICK TO WHAT I THINK ABT SOURCE AUTHORITY AND NOT LET SYSTEM BIAS GET TO ME BUT I REALIZED. MY THOUGHTS ON AUTHORITY AND MY THOUGHTS ON PANSY ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR! SOOO. WIDJXMDNFNXMXJFJDFJ anywaYS!!!
* - everyone else EXCEPT YOU! is wrong abt Auth <3. JFNDJDF
** - THIS IS TRUE BUT ALSO i was like "I could edit this to say 'will somebody please fuck them jesus christ' that'd be so funny and true" but i was also like. Nvm that takes too muchEffort i do not have the spoons 4 that. but there's that thought anywaysJFMCMDFKKFD
BUT YEAH SO! I do not respect source Authority at all. If we met source Authority irl I would beat the shit outta that bastard. Or. Try to anyways <3. JFKDMSMF he is however Hilarious sometimes he has his moments. But also. I tHINK! SOMEBODY! SHOULD FUCKIGN KNOCK HIM DOWN A FEW PEGS! AND ALso. and . also. and also peANYWAYS ONTO TITUS!
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Before I start: our synesthesia does not fucking like Titus's name I'm sorry for the weird pink. His name's shrimp coloured and weird and glitchy and shimmery I cannot replicate that shit on goddamn IbisPaint X™
SO WE BARELY KNOW SHIT ABT HIM YET but!!!!!!!!! He's fun and he's also Scary but in a good way like if u get on his good side He will literally kill & help fake murders 4 u. duh. But also hE SCARES ME! i care abt him. <3.
What we see from Harry's pov is that he Is An Asshole yes but like UNDERSTANDABLY SO!!! ofc he's an asshole to Harry & Kim thEY'RE COPS FUCK EM!
He gives off Funnyman vibes otherwise like. That character trope where Hte big scary looking dude is just v nice and funny around their friends? yeah. I imagine that's him IDK tbh <3 i will b honest we haven't played hte game In a couple months
OH I ALSOFORGOT TO ADD ANOTHER ASTERISK TO THE "if i met them irl i would beat them up" FOR HIM. IF WE MET HIM IRL HE COULD BEAT US UP fueJFDJSKDKC and "they fill me q incredibly violent urges" + "genuinely what the fuck" are also /positive & honorary. violence is our love language LMAO
The only reason we woild not like him irl is bc he is TALL [And Intimidating]. we are short and anyone way taller than us scares us. idk why <3. we have been like this our entire life. besides that tho he's cool 👍
-Electrochem
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jeongjaebae · 2 years ago
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wahhh i’m flattered that you like my writing enough to read more of it 😭 with school going on i haven’t had the time to write much besides notes on wips in my drafts and like…. headcanons fjsnkfdk but i’m hoping with winter break i’ll have enough motivation to write some more !
i actually had my eye on tbz since like 2020ish when their reveal (catching fire) performance from rtk showed up on my recommended haha but i never really got into them until i saw like . i think it was a sunwoo edit on tiktok from one of his old vlives LMAO his loserboy swag bewitched me body and soul….. i fell pretty quickly for everyone else after that :’’) right now my bias line is sunwoo (number one loserboy pookie), juyeon, hyunjae, and changmin !! sangyeon keeps trying to steal my heart away with his perfect boyfriend-to-husband pipeline behavior though fjsjfksk i’m #stayingstrong!! and i think im a little biased bc of that rtk performance but reveal is the undefeated title track and album imo! like the reveal itself is soooo good but the b-sides on that album went crazy!!!! absolutely insane how they fit spring snow + goodbye + shake you down + break your rules(!!!) on one album btw! but i think the stealer is a close second and thrill ride + whisper maintain 3rd place in my favs ranking 🫶🫶
i feel like 2022 was kind of a hard year for tbz and for deobis which is why i think everyone kinda felt the lack of momentum?? i watched the 5th anniversary fancon a couple weeks back and they’d talked about how it was a really hard year for them fjsjfkdk everyone cried 😭 but i think now that eric’s back + comeback in january the fandom is picking up again? at least i hope so :((
my deobisms actually hit so hard i started another fic blog for tbz LOL i’m considering moving some of the drafts i had for seventeen over to tbz too? the brainrot is so real ,,,, but like yeah since deobiblr is kinda dead i haven’t had the chance to meet any deobi moots, but i’m hoping we get the chance to talk more !! 🫶🫶
ohhh yes their legendary rtk performances!! the reveal catching fire stage was amazing 😍 that was my gateway too, but the mama 2020 version with checkmate!! SUNWOO'S LOSER BOY PERSONALITY AHAHAH omg ok that's so true. have you seen the way he flirts? last year especially... this boy had a phase where every universe pm was something related to kissing LOL. but i see, interesting bias line - it's basically dance line ft. possibly sangyeon? haha do you usually have a type that you tend to bias? and yesss reveal is definitely a solid title track and album!! really underrated too esp at the time. ooh are those your fave bsides from them?
hmm yeah they gained a lot of fans during rtk/kingdom but from what i saw, a great number of them were... multis that didn't ult them? and so they gradually lost interest and left... ooh ok wAIT they're coming back in january??? dang i've been so out of the loop 🥲 but that's exciting!!! hopefully ist does a better job with this comeback bc whisper seemed hella rushed (and like,,, the whole tour too) and with everything else that happened this year ofc it'd be hard on the members 😔 excited for ot11 activities next year tho!!
omg you with tbz 🤝 me with svt HAHA with the new blog and moving drafts too :') and i knowww school/life/everything makes it hard to find time to write anything but whenever you do have motivation, i'll be looking forward to seeing your works!! ngl i was half thinking of ditching this blog but... since you're here, i'm down to revive deobiblr LOL let's goooo 🤩
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deutoplasmic · 2 months ago
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OFC TAKERU IS VERY GENEROUS WITH HIS KISSES hes promised to kiss you for every day that youve known each other so uh. hes got a lot of time to make up for. gl y/n (theyre living my dream)
RADIATOR FENGFAN PLSSS imagine youre cold and he just. hug. i would cry personally
LMAO YES OFC HFNFJFJ is it obvious 😭 its why i bias takumi and fengfan of all members LMAOO
RINON DELCATTY OMGGGG and momona is definitely THE contest champion omg with a mawile or a meowscarada,,,
YES kyosuke is like. the secret postgame battle or smth LMAOJKDKD
my plan is to draw an individual profile for EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM LMAOJDJDJD,,, but to do that i need to plan the gym leaders and all the roles so theres no overlap
ONE FOR EVERY DAY LOOOOL he's definitely making excuses and if you actually ask him he is shamelessly saying yes. honesty is the best policy or whatever
i need me a fengfan. he's such a guy. he makes curry on special occasions and actually its so good you tell him he should open a restaurant but alas he's dedicated to the gym leader life..... and also how can he care for so many pokemon if he's too busy slaving away ... you admit he has a point but still 😔
ok it's not really but there's a recurring theme LOL but. yeah. something about a failboy ......... 🙏🙏🙏
MOMONA WITH A MAWILE IS SO CORRECT she probably has like a froslass too... she's probably rivals with ken and so whenever she encounters him they have a friendly battle. they're basically neck and neck but she's leading by one right now
omg. wait. i'm inspired by your secret battle thing. but a profile for them EACH omg you can do it!!!!!! take ran's scizor!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Omg wait that's actually a really good way of coming up with usernames! I kinda figured out that won-kyeom part and I was not sure about the Lee being dino because y'know there are a lot of lees in k-pop now I'll just combine k-pop idols names whenever I need to come up with new usernames!
Naurr chan 😭 but i kinda agree i think most of the carats who are in their 20s mostly see chan as their lil bro?? (Atleast the ones I have met) Or literally a child cuz most fanfics and smaus I've read about cheol and hannie they are either basically chans parents or they just bully him 💀. but I have to admit he's kinda bias wrecking Nonie these days (but he could never replace jeonghan in my heart T^T) BUT SHUA OMG he's a real fucking threat to both of us cause he did the impossible: bias wrecking Jeonghan. Like stop pls 😭😭
You have irl carat friend 😭😭 you're luckyyyy and omg comparing you to dk when he does something awful is something a friend would do lmao but hey atleast she's comparing you to the one and only SEOKMIN 🤩 a win is a win! my army friend (who also watches svts stuff sometimes) said me and hannie are really similar (y'know when we cause problems on purpose and cheat in games...match made in heaven fr 😍)
OMG YES PLS A SPIDERMAN AU 🛐 please write it if you could I'm on my knees begging (if you aren't busy ofc) i feel like this au would suit Nonie a lot (for obvious reasons) he kinda fits the loser (affectionate) nerdy Peter Parker vibes like him being the Spiderman is going to be the death of me and hear me out i think Jeonghan would also thrive in this au but he's Gwen Stacy/ Mary Jane and the reader is the spidercreature 😼 who else do you think fits in this au?
I get not watching movies often i also sort of re watch old movies again and again but If you watch the movies i recommended with your dad watch Chungking express! Fallen angels kinda has a suggestive scene (nothing too crazy but still)
Ahh thank you <33 Ida is also such a cute name!! My name is sort of a reference to the character Jolyne Cujoh
like i made this wayyy back in 2014 or something😭 and i think my og name was ohbyundae, for sehun, baekhyun and chen😭 and i've just kinda stuck with it for kpop usernames since korean names are so easy to combine and i suck at coming up with names lmao. but yesss!! it could obviously be jihoon or dk as well, but chan is who i had in mind
nooo i'm 21 and i love chan sm😭 like when they debutes i didn't think he was that hot, since he was so young. but nowadays???? man that man is ON FIRE. i'm still not over the back it up performance😭😭 literally fighting people for his pcs as well cause they're all so good. i have a few fics (wips) with chan as brother figure, but only because he's such a good brother😭😭
shua is the bane of my existence atm😭 love and hate it sm😭😭 cause he is literally perfect
well, i made her slip into the diamond life, but thirst traps on tiktoks were a lot of help as well😭 i think the shadow clip of mingyu and cheol in the rain is what got her in the end. but yess, i feel really lucky😭
exactly😌😌 i see myself in him as well so i get it. but omggg getting compared to hannie is the dream😭😭 like love him so much, that is peak !!
the way i went to my notes to write it down after i replied to your last ask... and wrote that vernon should be spider-man👀👀 but lnao shouldn't reader be a gwen stacy/mj version😭😭 i was thinking i might do a full on avengers au, with all of svt having some sort of super-power but we'll see. i have a lot of other ficd lined up first😭😭 but i would love to discuss it some more !!
the way i could straight up watch porn in front of my dad i do not think he would care 😭😭 like i'm from scandinavia so sex and whatever is really natural for us (although i only got through one episode of sex education with him in the room, mostly for my own sanity) but thank you for the heads up !!
thank you♡♡ ida is just my irl nickname, i didn't even think about coming up with an alias😭 and yes!!! omg i love jojo !!!!
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rrxnjun · 2 years ago
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HECK YEAHHH!! 03 best line😌🥳i was so happy to find out he was born in 2003 cuz i swear it's so rare to find anyone born in 2003 in any band (or tbh even just content creators)!! we are superior for being older than him /j😌😌 WAIT LMAO THATS KIND OF COOL THAT ITS ON THE SAME DAY:o doyoung is my guy after jihoon he is just so great so i understand him hitting differently lmao
yeahhh iguess i love doing things that take a lot of patience although i'm a very impatient person😶 and i'm still on the start of my embroidery career but it's so fun!!! we are the coolest grandmas out there😎😎😎 dude i love plants but i always end up killing them so🤡 (ofc sending one immediately!!)
i'm so happy about it as well;-; I WILL BUT MY PICS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE LIKE PIXELS CUZ WE ARE KIND OF FAR BACK SO I WILL SEND U MAKE SURE TO SEND U PIXEL CALUM!!! will tell u all about it🫡
SORRY!! IT WASNT FOR COMFORT🥲 tbh as u should treasure is fun so ur phase is completely understandable!!! jihoon is the definition of perfect tbh just love the guy!! ooo i've never seen that i will go and watch that later👀 but losing ur shit is probs very much understandable🤣
WAIT ACTUALLY OH MY🤭💞but actually only write it if u want to!!! i don't want to force u!!! IT WILL BE!! MANIFESTING FOR IT TO BE AMAZING!!!!🥳🥳🥳(awww thank u so much🥹lmao that would be kind of funny ngl but maybe hopefully i will be comfortable enough to not be anon by then cuz i'm starting become more comfortable to post on the internet so i might save u from having to do that🤣)
i'm very glad it cheered u up!! i always love reading ur replies to me and they just cheer me up always tbh hihi🥹💗💕 (liebestraum anon💕)
TRULY !!! 03 line is so rare to see i think and thats why i automatically adopt every 03 liner i see 😭😭 also our bias taste is....the same. i am NOT surprised 😭😭
how can u be an impatient person then 😭😭 i get impatient w art and then i rush the details and it ends up looking like shit 😔 the only thing i dont feel like i rush is writing but even that sometimes gets hard to do LMAO 😭 i got so many plants for my bday also!!! im surprised they're not dead bc sometimes i forget to water them and im lowkey freestyling the care but i love all of them to death💓 wishing u good luck w your embroidery career and waiting for that bracelet !!
CANT WAIT FOR PIXEL CALUM!!!!!!! better than nothing 😔🤞
losing my shit is understanable but also it makes me feel silly like girlie that man doesnt know you and here u are in a parasocial relationship with him💔 watching ygtb made me so proud of him tho he grew so much as a person and a performer and so did all of them!!!
i woULD but see it occured to me that i have exams next week so i kinda lost my shit and now im spiraling instead of writing but. it wILL happen after !!!
omg i am glad to hear you are more comfy!!! i would never pressure u into anything bc i want u to be 100% comfortable but if u ever decide to come off anon i am welcoming you w open arms my friend 💓
to finish off this reply i want to apologize for being so late with it but i had a rough week full of stress and hangover 🤠 also i hope you are doing well and that you are taking care of yourself!!
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atinydise · 2 years ago
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Hello! I'm a new Atiny, became a stan in Jan. 2022. I saw your guide for new Atiny's which was BEAUTIFULLY organized, so I hoped you might be willing to help new Atiny's navigage the fan site/official merch and concert ticket sales? I really want to see them on tour and I just want to make sure I'm going through the right avenues. Thank you for your consideration!
Hongjoong and San Biased, but I genuinely love them all and their dynamic together!
I'm also a Stay, Moa and ARMY.
Hello! Welcome to Atinyland, you will love it! 🦋
Personally, I can't have a bias in Ateez, but I definitively know what you are talking about for Hongjoong and San hehe
And sorry for answering you this late but I will do my best to help you :)
First, tbh I don't have any idea how's working Ateez fan site. I think I've never been there yet. But I'm sure you can find info on Twitter/Google... 😔
But I can definitively help with the merch and the concert ticket sales hehe
Official merch: you can buy some on a lot of websites.
⚠️ Be aware that if you are not living in SK or around the shipping fees are atrocious 💀
KQ Shop: here you can buy everything related to KQ artists such as birthday merch, albums, lightsticks, concert merch, and more.
Ateez EU Store (in partnership with MyMusicTaste): they’re selling a few months after the concert the amount of merch left. If you are leaving in Europe, it’s way more interesting to wait for the website to be updated and then buy here. The shipping fees are waaaay cheaper.
MyMusicTaste: I don’t know if they will still sell merch since they don’t organize concerts anymore (if I understand well), but they were used to selling special merch or good opportunities such as fan-sign, fan-call, and meet-and-greet event.
Official KPOP websites such as: Kpoptown, Ktwon4U (there are interesting sales sometimes).
Tickets concert sales: I won't lie to you lmao this is the stressful thing eveeer! But you can do it :)!
To be fully prepared the sale day:
Be aware of every sale (pre-sale, membership sale, official sale), and just in case sign up for all of them.
Be sure to have at least 2 free hours to get your tickets (if you can ofc). Most of the time tickets will get sold out really quickly, but people are leaving their cart, or the venue can add little by little some seats. So do not give up until you have official news from the venue.
Prepare many devices if you can. Take your phone, laptop, your parents’ phone, roommate's computer, bf/gf’s phone… everything you can!
Ask your friends, parents, family or anyone to help you to get tickets.
Be sure to have a good Internet connection. Sometimes Wifi can be a b*tch so don’t hesitate to use your phone 4G/5G if you can. And it’s way faster.
Create in advance an account on the venue website.
Start to refresh the website 1 hour before.
Do not leave or refresh the queue when you are in. If you consider being too far in the queue then add another device or try in incognito mode.
Have your credit card ready with more than the price of tickets on it.
Stalk social media, especially Twitter. I suggest activating Ateez and the venue account notification so you won’t miss anything.
⚠️ FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE VENUE LAYOUT. This is sooo important! You won’t freak out the first time you enter the website, you know what to do.
If you are a minor, be sure to ask your parents or legal guardian the authorization to go to the concert, and be aware that you need an adult with you the D-Day.
Follow fanbases account. They're doing their best to make sure that everything is okay for you and the artist.
If you are going to multiple venues, do the same thing for each of them. Learn how every website works.
⚠️ Depending on the country, buy places from an official reseller.
Play an Ateez playlist in the background to give you the strength to fight for your tickets lmao (personal suggestions: Guerilla, Wonderland, Hala Hala, Say My Name, Wave, Illusion, Not Too Late,...)
Hope it helps you a little bit more 🦋🥺
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quokki · 3 years ago
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Hello I'm too nervous come off Anon which means I can't send pictures, but I wanna talk Abt my bias fhdjdjjd well actually I wanna rant Abt my beloved bias wrecker minho
Minhos so. Insanely talented and I just, I don't gush about him enough for how much I adore him and like fhhxbfjcjd he's so talented and pretty and amazing and I just love him
I think my favorite thing about him is how straight forward he is, like he doesn't fuck around and like he speaks his mind and I think that's just so cool of him I dunno, I think it's fun too seeing him with his straight forward personality and the others who just always tease and mess with him and then he just like. Looks at them and they're like oh ok time to big someone else hdjdjdjd. He just. He's so good. I love him
I think I love him and his like. His relationship with seungmin is so fun. Like they're the divorced couple but like it's so fun to see how much they bicker but you can still clearly see how much they care for each other and it's just so precious. I wish I saw more about them bc they're just. Their chemistry is so good and funny and there's never a full moment between them and I think they respect each other a lot idk it's just great I love them
I also just. I adore him and chan bc they like. It's so cute when chan like. Pampers and coddles him teasingly and Minho acts like he hates it even tho you can see him enjoying the attention, I think my favorite instance I can think of off the top of my head is their 2 kids room, where channie just has this shit eating grin as he teases Minho and Minho glares at him so halfheartedly it's just so fun, I think that Minho appreciates it and I think they just take care of each other so well
Oh god another thing like, I recently got minhos bbl and it just warms my heart how he just sends like a few check in messages a day, I always look forward to him telling me to eat breakfast at like. 11 pm my time, and him telling me to sleep when I wake up, like it's just so sweet seeing him just do these little reminders every day, and when we get a story it's nice but I think it shows just how warm and caring he is that he does that like every day, he sends little reminders and I can just imagine him doing the same with the members and like I dunno it's just so sweet I love him dearly
And then like my other favorite relationship he has is with my lovely boss hannie, they're so loving and caring and just. There's so so many pages I could write Abt them but I just think it's so nice to see how close they are and comfortable they are with each other ? And I think that uh I think I saw somewhere that Minho was the only member han never really picked fights with, and that's just. Idk I think they must have a really close bond and I wish I had a friendship like theirs chxjdjfjsj.
Ok I should stop now this is too much- thank you, this is fun, you're really cool and I hope you have a good day !!!!
it's okay!!!! you've done so much for this ask already 💕 i'm happy to give u pics instead
all these lino letters i've gotten are really getting to me lmao you guys are so cute about him
he really is so amusing to watch isn't he?
the divorced couple lmao i love that and the chan thing is so cute chan is so adorable pls
awww the bbl thing with the reminders and check ins sounds so sweet honestly, it's like you said, like makes it feel like he cares and thats so nice 🥰🥰
ok minsung yes ofc but omg this is the second time i hear about han fighting with everyone and i'm just?? i need to know more lmaooo i'm sorry i know this is lino focus time SFRHGWDACQAHG
this is soo fun and nice for me to read your letters so i'm happy you enjoy sending them cuz i LOVE getting them!!!
thank you 💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘
here's some linos for you 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
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aquagustd · 2 years ago
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ur so mean to go from choking to smut. like i went from "omg he's awful wtf. stay away from her jk!!" to "and he's so 🥵 and 😮‍💨" i really love their scenes together bc they're so emotionally charged. idk if that's a good thing but oc x jk just have this flavor ! that i'm sawry but i don't feel from tae :( i still like him tho and i like how happy oc is when talking to tae, she's giddy and enjoying herself without stress attached (unlike with jk). junho ofc as always 100000/10. i love that boy so dearly. if i could make any request for hie, it would be to just have scenes of oc and junho from when he was born to now. like what was junho like as a 3 yr old? the ppl demand (kindly) an answer ma'am 🎤 and what is going on with the textile factory? a side endeavor? a company front? really interesting how flirty jk was with oc the next day, like he kinda assumed they were back together with his open affections. i don't like that when he's still getting married 🤨 jk answer for all ur crimes without crying and having oc feel sorry for you. back to the jk smut scene, it was hot af but the "i always knew i'd get to have you with me again" line threw me off bc he said that right after avoiding her questions. like what?! idk what's real and fake with him. at least oc knows she still has some power over him, really want the playing fields to be leveled.
weird side note, but i feel like jk is on this trip playing house and he's definitely looking at junho thinking "this kid is amazing and kind and smart and /we're/ his parents and then he's looking at oc thinking "we should make another that's just as perfect"
anyways thank u for uploading despite the hateful msgs. i hope they leave you tf alone forever
i read ‘ur so mean’ and my heart sank a bit lmao 💀 but HEY cherry !! i saw your other ask and it’s you <3
LMAO ‘jk answer for your crimes without crying’ you called him OUT 🫣 but yeah how can he think that he an oc are on the ‘ill kiss your cheek whenever i like’ status after what happened 😟 the audacity pls. but tae 🥺 she really is relaxed with him and we can tell that she truly enjoys talking to him and she wants things to work out. jk is a little too sure of himself 🤨🤨 he got put in his place a bit when oc was moaning tae’s name after she turned him down 👀
you saying jk & oc have this flavor …. might have something to do with the fact that JK IS MY BIAS TOO 🫣😭 idk but i see that myself in my writing and it’s something i can’t help. but ig we’ll see how it goes 👁
oh junho as a baby :( you want to see more of baby junho ??? it’s a sad time for oc but junho was her savior and he was just a cute blob 🥺 it’ll probably be more platonic yoongi x oc too !! maybe one day you guys can ask me stuff about baby smiley and i’ll write something quick quick for you guys !! just let me know if you’d like that !!
oc does have a hold on him 👀 & vice versa 🥴 but she’s strong & we have faith in her not to give into his charms 🫡 LMAOOO he definitely saw oc’s mommy milkers and his mind must’ve been cooking up all sorts of ideas 🫣 tysm for reading babes <3
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dreamhot · 3 years ago
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Sometimes fans say and write things that make more sense and are more coherent to the plot and characters that the actual writers/creators. >< I think the problem is a fan theory/a headcanon becomes too popular and everyone wants that to be the canon and then it doesn't happen in that way. I'm saying this based on my fandom experience. I read fan things that I like but I don't expect it to be the canon. Some people can do that so they harass those who don't like their headcanon.
okay sorry to scapegoat your message for this but i want to address the first part of what you said, cos it's something we hear often (esp on tumblr), but i think it bears discussing
it's true that we sometimes see fan concepts that seem more thoughtful or sensible than what actually happens in the source media. however, i think the claim (as a general statement) does a disservice to the creators for several reasons
for one - and this is particularly relevant when talking about larger scale productions with more people involved - there is probably so much going on behind the scenes that controls the plots/characters/etc. i have sympathy for writers (or producers or directors) whose visions got snubbed in order to serve corporate & shareholder interests. in these situations, it's hard to say whether or not the fans have 'better' ideas for the media, cos we don't know what all went into shaping the final product, and it's possible that what we see as viewers is a far cry from what the creators wanted to share with the world
second, i think we're also dealing with some degree of selection bias. for every incredible fan concept that has you saying 'oh my GOD, how could the creators not have thought of this ??', you'll have scads of other fanon ideas that are . well . not good lmao. if we take the dsmp as an example, there are a handful of writers and then the rest of the team executing their ideas through improv or what have you. we're looking at a couple dozen individuals loosely working together to make a story - not the thousands (if not millions) of fans who are all teeming to share their own thoughts. of course when your source pool is that big, you're gonna find some great ideas that the writers might not have come up with! but that doesn't discredit the writers themselves - they're only human & working with their own thoughts & experiences. some amount of feedback is helpful for developing ideas ofc, but just cos they didn't come up with the same innovative concept that a fan did, it doesn't mean that the cc is less savvy
all /nm jsyk !! not trying to come after what you said specifically anon (esp cos i know you just said 'sometimes', not all the time hehe) - i just think this is an angle worth considering when making broad statements about fans knowing better than ccs. i hope this makes sense! :]
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sungbeam · 2 years ago
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xnonie present ✋️
oh no, u just asked for my svt bias!! 🫣🫣 truth be told... i don't even know atp they're all too good SHCJDS but i'm definitely an american line enjoyer myself 🫶🫶🫶 joshua has climbing up the list for a while! like he's always been up there, i was just clinging onto hansol for so long (also U WOULD TELL ME THEIR POWERS? FOR ME?!? 🫠 i feel so loved)
& YESSSS i love she-hulk rn! i hate how short the episodes are, but at least we're being spoiled w/ extra end credits content!! i honestly just wait for it b/c they're sooo fun. I JUST SAW UR RECENT POST ON MATT MURDOCK BEING HOT & I JUST WANNA AGREE ABSOLUTELY. 100%. SO TRUE. he makes my stomach flutter with butterflies auggghhhhh 😭😭
WE CAN'T FORGET BUCKYYY! so excited to see him in future movies especially now that sam is cap now, i'd love to see their dynamic 🥰 AND U HAD A DRUIG PHASE TOO?? ugh he just made me forget ALL my mcu crushes LIKE i searched far & wide across tumblr for fics of this man. i was so down bad. i think it's the accent AHVHDJFJ 🫡
"my beautiful, beautiful makkari" UGHSHDH
XNONIE !!! HAIII (ノ´∀`*) UR ASKS MAKE ME GRIN AND GIGGLE LIKE A TEENAGER (lmao i say that like i'm not skcnkdnc but i kid u not i'm lying on my stomach and kicking my feet up behind me 😭😭)
AHAHAH i totally feel the same tbh my svt bias line consists of FOUR PEOPLE 😭😭😭😭 and then im wrecked by the entire group as well still (;_; they're insane all the time and my heart is too fragile for this— BUT AHHHH AMERICAN LINE YES!!! okok sooo based on my notes,, , , i have josh w iceman and vernon w hehe franklin richards !! def different spectrums of the mutant timeline, but josh is ofc a classic member of the xmen family and non i gave one of the most powerful mutants in the universe imo 🤧🤧🤧 franklin is the son of mr and mrs fantastic and he can create POCKET DIMENSIONS FOR FUN DKCNSKCJJ LIKE THATS SO CRAZY TO ME and i just felt like giving such a chill dude that much power would be 😎😎😎 (tbh i wanna tell u ALL of them but we can start w ur biases hehe)
I LITERALLY JUST FINISHED THE NEWEST EP OF SHE-HULK AND IM LIKE ????? HWAT !!?@(!#;(@(@( LJKE OMG THE ENDING !! i went from squealing abt matt murdock to absolute silence like my mouth was gaping like a fish TT anyways cannot wait until the finale ep
BRO THE BANTER BTWN BUCKY AND SAM IS TOP NOTCH AHAHHAHAHA it's so funny cuz my mom and i always joke abt how they hated each other cuz of their competition for cap's attention 🤩🤩🤩 the bromance yk but now that cap's gone cries they're left only w each other :'))) as i recall from the end of falcon and the winter soldier, they weren't completely friends either ?? (also fal and the winsol. was such a DARK tv show omg o_o like i was so shocked how dark it was but it was still good as always)
U WERE ON MCU TUMBLR LOOKING FOR DRUIG FICS TOO ??? (´Д⊂ヽ XNONIE ILY OMG THE TASTE AND THE VIBES ARE IMMACULATE RN IM SO EXCITED SJCBKSKXJ ahhhhhHhhhhhHHHHHHH IM SCREAMING HES SO FINE SO POWERFUL TOO (yep def the accent CRIES the way he just — and his— and every— and him 😭)
can he tell ME im beautiful like that too (;_;
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acadieum · 6 years ago
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(Amnesty anon) I'm very excited!!!!! Your art is literally the greatest and I can't wait for you to draw all the mini arc babes Honestly, I'm just glad you're listening to the other arcs. So many people don't because they don't think it will be as good as balance. And I love balance with all my heart! But I just wish they'd give the others a chance. It's still our boys, and they're still amazing. But good luck with story and song! (Don't listen in public, I cried so much. Mostly happy tears tho)
awh thank you!!! im excited to meet all the new characters and create designs for all of em!! sounds like a challenge but itll be fun lmao 
and i mean??? ofc, i probably will have a constant bias towards creating balance fanart bc?? it was my first and?? it’s very beautiful and heart warming and i’m excited but terrified to start story and song but,,, balance will always have a special place in my heart. but if what people say are true, the other arcs are still great and were created by our good trusted boys so i mean? i’ll def give em a shot!
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