#they wanna do the whole doomed love triangle and i'm like

[oidheadh-con-culainn]

love when i see a book rec list where half the items on it are things i liked / thought were okay / haven't read but am intrigued by... and then there's just one thing on there i hate and it ruins the whole list for me. i'm like. sorry. if you enjoyed the vibes of XYZ i cannot trust your taste at all. i object.

[tuiyla]

the whole time with the whit/canaan/kimberly thing i was holding my breath, it was so obvious what was going to happen and it was painful having to sit and wait. whitney going to the kappas was certainly A Choice but now i feel like i should’ve seen it coming since she and kimberly had that cute “i wanna room with you next year” moment and when do these two ever Really have moments like that? not all that often. i’d say i was sorta rooting for her and canaan, they were cute, but now… yikes

Noo you're so right we should have known when Whit and Kimberly had that scene :( And that's so sad because we deserve nice scenes between those two without it spelling doom. The two actual roomie pairs, Kim and Whit/Leighton and Bela have two of the least developed friendships and I find that... weird. Here's hoping we'll get more.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the love triangle because I just don't get Why. Really hard for me to trust something interesting instead of exhausting will come out of it but I'm trying. We'll see next year I suppose.

[writer-in-theory]

If you’re still taking blurb requests:

👄 sharing their first kiss | 📆 office romance | ⚠️ a love triangle with a character making their final choice

a love triangle for the ages (spencer reid x reader)

summary: after working with spencer for years, reader has finally worked up the courage to admit their feelings for him. someone else beats them to it, leaving spencer with a choice.

category: a bit of angst, a bit of fluff

pairing: spencer reid x gn!reader

content warnings: mild language, mentions of jeid (it’s not endgame), brief food talk, a sentence of negative self-talk

word count: 2k

a/n: SURPRISE. i'm feeling a little unhinged today so have this. aka, i have a couple huge exams monday/tuesday so i'll be less active this weekend

grecy, you spoil me. this was such a fun prompt. I’ve never actually written a love triangle before so i hope it ends up okay. the alternative title for this is, what if jj confesses her love way earlier in the show and also what if spencer had a relationship that wasn’t doomed to fail from the start.

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•─────⋅☾ ☽⋅─────•

The moment you walked into the office and heard the words “physics magic”, you knew you’d fall for whoever had spoken them. Your point was only further proven upon seeing the sweater vest-laden man cheering behind his desk after launching a makeshift rocket across the room.

From the first moment you saw him, you knew Spencer Reid would be the one.

What started as a cute office crush quickly spiraled into one of the best friendships you’d ever had. The two of you went together like peanut butter and jelly, and where one went the other was never too far behind. It only made the team stronger, too, the pair of you able to finish each other’s thoughts and theories better than you ever thought possible.

It was easy with Spencer, and that was the most terrifying part. Terrifying, because even now as you sat working at your desk, you were aware of the man occupying the one beside you. You forced yourself not to focus on the one little curl that had fallen into his face, his hair a little more unruly now that he’d elected to stop slicking it back. You fought not to think about his hands and the way they might feel against you, or the way he looked so effortlessly gorgeous in that red cardigan.

You couldn’t think about it, because over the past couple of years you’d become one of his closest friends. It felt wrong to picture him in that way when he had no clue you ever wanted to. It was even worse now that you knew the whole rest of the team had figured it out too, the only one left out of the loop being the only one who should know.

So maybe that was why, on a random Tuesday in the office, you decided it was time to come clean. For better or for worse, by the end of the day, Spencer would know everything.

“Hey, Spence, wanna take lunch early today?” you asked as you approached his desk, gently tapping his upper arm to get his attention. Sometimes the man could get so deep into his work that it took a physical touch to break the focus.

“Hm?” Spencer hummed, turning his head to look at you and positively beaming. “That sounds great, I have something to tell you.”

“Funny enough, so do I,” you told him, the two of you making your way to the little table in the breakroom.

Spencer pulled out his own carefully packaged lunch, a perfect combination of each food group. You pulled out your own, a few hasty items shoved into a paper bag leftover from your last grocery trip. It was easy to remember when you pestered Spencer into eating healthy lunches after he admitted he often forgot it entirely, but sometimes it was tough to remember to make that choice for yourself.

Spencer eyed your bag, clearly trying not to pass judgment but a bit of a sassy eyebrow twitch coming through anyway. “What’s for lunch today?”

“Doritos and an Uncrustable PB&J,” you answered, happily munching on the first chip.

“I thought we agreed we were both doing better,” Spencer pointed out, gesturing to his little Tupperware container of fruit. “Fruit is considerably less exciting than Doritos.”

“How about I pay a Dorito tax and we’ll call it even?” you suggested, dumping a handful of chips onto a napkin and sliding it over to him.

“I accept these terms, but tomorrow you’re packing a vegetable.”

“I can do that.”

“A green one,” he added, a knowing smirk on his face as he tried to claim victory.

“Well now you’re just being cruel,” you teased.

“So what did you have to tell me?” Spencer asked, causing your heart to race all over again. One moment you were playfully bantering with one of the most important people in your life, and now you were risking all of it on one confession. Could you really do it? What if he didn’t feel the same way?

“You go first,” you deflected instead, figuring you could use the time to re-work up the courage.

“Well,” Spencer began, rubbing his hand over the back of his neck and suddenly looking far too nervous for your liking. His eyes looked around the room, landing on just about everything but you, and his cheeks even turned a brilliant shade of pink. “JJ told me she liked me yesterday.”

“Well, I’d hope she does. She’s like one of your best friends,” you pointed out, hoping that was all this was.

“No, I mean, she likes me,” Spencer clarified, practically digging a knife deep into the center of your chest. “Isn’t that great?”

No, it wasn’t great. It wasn’t great at all because JJ was absolutely perfect. She was stunning, and kind, and wanted children right away like you knew Spencer sometimes thought about. She was everything that would make a perfect partner for Spencer, and how could you possibly compete with that?

“Yeah, that’s so great, Spence. I’m happy for you,” you tried, voice rising a little higher in pitch to convey the happiness you certainly weren’t feeling.

“I never thought someone like her could think of me that way,” Spencer admitted, only breaking your heart more that he truly thought that about himself.

“Oh c’mon, you’re a total catch,” you laughed, suddenly feeling less hungry and more sick to your stomach. “And you know what? As my congratulations present to you, please take the rest of these Doritos,” you told him, sliding over the rest of your lunch, “I’m so behind on reports, I need to take a quick lunch today.”

“Wait, what about what you were going to tell me?” Spencer asked, eyebrows tilted in concern as you stood from the table.

“It’s really not that important. I already forgot what it was anyway,” you lied, practically running out of the breakroom and leaving any chance you had with Spencer behind.

It was nearly impossible to focus for the rest of the day. There he was, sitting at the desk beside yours like always, but now you couldn’t even focus on his hair or the way his nose scrunched up when he thought really intensely about something. All you could think about was how much Spencer deserved JJ, how she would make him so happy and for that reason alone you couldn’t even be upset about this.

So at the end of the day when the team decided to go out for drinks, you made up an excuse and rushed out of the office, not wanting to see the happy couple when you knew you’d missed your chance by mere minutes.

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The second you were home, the work clothes came off and the comfy clothes came on. It would be a self-care not for the ages, the hours passed by with movies, and ice cream, and anything else you needed. Because after tonight, you wouldn’t hold onto whatever you felt for Spencer. It wouldn’t be healthy for either of you, not if you wanted to continue the beautiful friendship the two of you had built over the years. You’d have to get used to seeing Spencer and JJ together, and for that reason alone you had to spend tonight saying goodbye to whatever hopeful feelings you once held.

It lasted until midnight. Just as you were starting up another silly rom-com, a knock sounded at your door. Like second nature, your hands were grabbing for your gun and your eyes were scanning the room, trying to search for quick escapes. There was no reason for anyone to be at the house this late, leaving you to only picture the kinds of people you dedicated your life to catching.

Never once did you ever expect to see the man of the hour standing at your door, looking breathless as if he’d run all the way here. Spencer’s hair was a mess, tousled from the wind, and his shirt was rumpled as if he’d been adjusting the collar of it all night. His hands clung to the strap of his messenger bag tightly, knuckles white with the effort.

Most of all, his amber eyes were staring at you as though he saw you in a different light.

“I thought the team was going out for drinks?” you asked, nervousness building up in your body. What was he doing here so late? Was everything okay? Were you called in for a case and missed the bat signal from Hotch?

“We did,” Spencer spoke hurriedly, “and I was trying to figure out what I did to upset you. I didn’t...”

“Spence, it’s okay, you didn’t do an-”

“Why didn’t you ever tell me?” Spencer blurted out, stopping you immediately in your tracks. Oh G-d, he knew. Spencer knew, and he was with JJ, and here was the moment where it all came crashing down.

“I wanted to, but it doesn’t matter now,” you told him gently, “I’ll get over it, it’s okay.”

“It’s not okay,” Spencer told you, pulling a wince from you just as quickly. “It’s not okay, because I don’t want you to get over it.”

And, did you hear that right? You searched his expression for any sign of a joke but instead, all you saw was insistent care, a desperation to prove what he was saying was real. “What are you saying?”

“I’m saying it was always you, Y/N.” The words stole your breath, plucking it right from your chest and leaving you standing, lips parted and aching for something, anything. “I thought I liked JJ, but I just kept thinking about you. I thought you only saw me as a friend.”

“I thought the same,” you admitted, feeling relieved tears beginning to build in your eyes and hearing them begin to wobble your voice. “I never thought someone like you could think of me in that way,” you echoed his words from earlier.

“Please, from the moment I heard you tell me how to make the physics magic trick fly further, I knew you were special,” Spencer admitted, stepping closer to you until he was close enough to take your hands.

“Did you know it’s safer to kiss than hold hands?” you dared softly, a smile forming on Spencer’s lips at the reference to his own words.

“I did know that,” Spencer answered in the same soft voice, keeping a hold on your hands but leaning to capture your lips in a kiss.

It was everything you ever hoped it would be, and more. People always say that sparks fly when it’s the one, but you never quite believed them until this moment. Spencer was kissing you, was telling you that the feelings you’d been so ashamed of for years had been reciprocated the entire time.

Spencer was choosing you, and what else was there to say?

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[masterhandss]

I'm like the one person to ship Katarina and Kai (Gerran). Mysterious elegant gentlemany anime guys with always closed eyes just get me, ya know? They have a cute dynamic, too, but I doubt there'll be ever anything about him. He and Sienna are forever doomed to be Those Side Characters I wish were in the mainline manga/novels/anime XD

Hahaha, I definitely know how you feel! Gentleman characters who always have their eyes closed is such a specific yet interesting trope, so back when he was first introduced in VOD I was super excited to find out more about him and was specifically hyping up the moment where he opens his eyes XDD (he did when he fought Geordo, and I think that was a pretty cool moment). Kai and Sienna are super interesting because they are new characters outside of Katarina's circle who gives us a fresh dynamic with Katarina that both can and isn't tied to romance depending on how you decide to read the story.

-> hamefura verge of doom spoilers ahead <-

Katarina and Kai's relationship had a lot of potential too; Geran is simply teaching and getting close to Katarina in order to get close to Maria and win her over using Katarina's recommendations. Geran only seems to be teaching her as a professor without any friendly relationship with her (since she's just a piece in his grand scheme) but he slowly appreciates Katarina's enthusiasm and dedication to learning, and given the kind of friendly and straightforward person she is, they end up being coming quite close.

I haven't really found the time to write my feelings about VOD's ending, it's a mixed bag for me honestly. I'm really happy with the direction it went for it's final scene (*cough geordo confession cough cough*) but it was really rushed and there are so many unanswered questions and unresolved character arcs.

Kai halfway though VOD seems to accepted having a friendly relationship with Katarina, even though he still hides behind the "I'm a teacher so of course I care" and "Well, it'd be bad for me if anything happens to her". I really wished we could have gotten more about that; like how much of what he says is how he actually feels and how much of it does he *think* he feels??

I guess it's because these kinds of topics only happen when he's around Geordo, but it's pretty amusing to switch between referring to Katarina as a third/outside party and talking about her as a student he cares about. The line between being an outsider and being an ally is kinda blurry with Kai Geran, so I wished we could have seen more. I personally think he cares for her more than he realizes, but given that the series is over, we'll never be able to see if not he has already realized that he really cares for her or if it's something that has yet sink into him. I feel like this is the kind of topic where it really depends on the reader on how much Kai objectively cares for Katarina by the end of VOD.

Like, when Katarina went missing, he was sort of distressed as well. If he was asked about it, I'm sure he would have responded that he was worried "because he is her teacher" and maybe that is the case, but I'm sure he was worried because it was Katarina who was missing and he'd be sad if anything happened to her (the person, not her as the Maria-Ministry ticket), he's just very good at showing otherwise (sorry Geran but the readers are onto ya!). He's being "tsun" about her, I can feel it in my bones >:))

One thing I also really want to know more about is the unintentional love triangle(??) between Kai - Katarina - Geordo. Like, he finds amusement in seeing Geordo jealous of him and Katarina whenever they are close, and to be honest VOD presents Geran as Geordo's biggest threat rather than someone like Keith or Maria. Maybe it's just me being unable to read between the lines but I couldn't be sure whether or not he's just doing it because he likes messing with Geordo or not XDD Geran looks like he's trying to steal away Katarina, and instead of denying it or reassuring Geordo that they are simply teacher and student, he acts even more close & touchy to Katarina in order to both maintain the "friendship" they have while trying to see how the prince will react lmao. I kinda hoped we could have gotten more, I wanted to see Geran get more and more confident in his approaches to Katarina because he's aware that she really likes him as a professor, and losing the initial fear he had of Geordo who could end their lessons with a single command (also to maybe annoy Geordo a little? XDD). It would have been a great moment for Geran to brag about close his relationship with Katarina while having him slowly reevaluate what kind of relationship that is lmao. That's the kind of relationship slow burn I wanna see XDD

I also wished we could have gotten to a point where Katarina and Kai are so close that Kai begins to feel regret for originally taking in Katarina as a student simply to use her as a tool to get to Maria. Like Kai never acts rude or indifferent towards Katarina even in the beginning of the lessons, he was nice and polite from the very beginning, but on the inside I feel like he was holding back his negative feelings about being a teacher to a clueless noblewoman back when he didn't know what kind of person Katarina is.

Even if he doesn't visibly act on it, he still saw Katarina as a tool and only maintained their relationship at first because it was good for him in the long run. Hypothetically, imagine how bad he would have felt once he realizes that he appreciates Katarina as both a person and a student, and having him realize that he doesn't only want Maria to join his department in the Magic Ministry, but also Katarina as well. If you wanna make it extra ship-y, have his motivations switch from getting Maria into his department to bringing in Katarina XDD (kinda like a mirror to Raphael's goals in the main series lmao)

Like you said anon, the type of dynamic Katarina and Kai has had lots of potential to be very sweet and intriguing depending on how it could have happened. Too bad VOD is done, I wish some fanfic author could write Katarina x Kai fics to pick the pieces that VOD left us ;;w;;

I'm sorry if this whole post is kinda wack, sometimes I can't tell if what i'm writing is whats happening in VOD or what I wanted to happen in VOD XDD It's a little bit of both, so I hope I was able to distinguish my thoughts well enough.

If I mischaracterized Kai or if what I said has been proven or contradicted by the manga, feel free to point it out! I haven't read VOD in a while so Kai in this post might have been altered by my rose-colored lens hehe :))

Thank you for the ask :DD

[handonhaven]

Okay I'm already annoyed. Clarke just came back and people are already like "I'm calling a love triangle between Hope, Landon, Clarke. And if we're lucky it'll end up like it did with Elena, Stefan and Damon." 😒😒😒😒

I.. I... look this is legacies not the vampire diaries. I can almost guarantee they're not going to pull another brother love triangle thing. It wouldn't make sense. Plus Clarke and Hope wouldn't work out or last very long anyways. Because 1. Clarke is 100% like malivore. He's made straight from his mud, so in Clarke is malivore just with his own brain. 2. Clarke is too old, there I said it. He's probably as old as Klaus was. And he only cares about two things, himself and killing malivore/getting his love. I just don't see that changing. And even if that did change I don't see it moving past a friendship if that at all. Even if it did move past friendship with feelings it still wouldn't work out because like I said in a way he's pretty much malivore. Now before anyone say well so is Landon. Landon isn't malivore or like malivore per say. He's a kind of hybrid of sorts. He's part human, part Phoenix(I still believe he's a phoenix), part who knows what else. So even if there is a part of Landon is like malivore in any way all those other parts of Landon protects him from Hopes blood. There's also the fact that malivore had Landon so he wouldn't have the same weakness has him.

But anyways I doubt they'll pull another brother love triangle again. I also just don't want to see that storyline again. I just feel like the whole love triangle thing is played out and a little over used.

Also just because something happened one way on the vampire diaries doesn't mean it'll happen the same way on legacies. They're two different shows.

P.s sorry for the rant

Mood, haha. I’ve been seeing people saying that too, just... no. I’m actually surprised people are talking about it tbh. I don’t think it’ll happen either though, I just can’t imagine. They might’ve done a brother love triangle back in the day with Raf when the show first started, I think that was considered. But with Clarke? No, I don’t think so.

And exactly, if they think Hope and Landon are doomed (which they’re not, I’m sure, at least they’re gonna find a way to fix that) then that would be nothing compared to Clarke since he really is like Malivore and was created from mud.

And true, he’s definitely too old. Not that that’s stopped the writers from putting characters on these shows together before, but I don’t think they’re gonna go back to that. And yeah, it does seem like those are the only things that Clarke wanted. I mean, he seemed to have more friendly feelings towards Hope at the end of 2x08. But I can’t see it moving past a friendship with him and Hope either. I can’t even see a friendship, maybe an alliance or something, but nothing more. At least not for Hope. I can see Clarke possibly having feelings for her, but there’s no way Hope would ever have any sort of feelings for him.

But yeah, either way, it wouldn’t work out because of Clarke being like Malivore. And exactly, Landon is not like Malivore. Not in the way Clarke is anyway. Very true, Landon is made up of many things, from both Seylah and Malivore and his Phoenix side and whatever else we may not know about. Yes, you’re right. Yeah, the reason Landon was born is so he wouldn’t be like Malivore or Clarke or have their weaknesses.

And right? Idk why people wanna see that either. After enduring the Stefan/Elena/Damon love triangle for years, I can’t do it again, I didn’t enjoy it at all. I’ve just never been a fan of love triangles but it’s definitely been done too many times, so I don’t understand why people want it again. And good point, they really have done a lot to try to make Legacies different from the other shows. So I don’t think they’re gonna repeat something like that, hopefully. The only way I could stand it is if it’s just Clarke having feelings for Hope, while she and Landon stay together, with nothing else coming of it. That’s the only thing I could tolerate. But Clarke may not even stick around very long, so who knows what’ll happen.

And no worries! No need to apologize, feel free to rant! I can relate. 😂

[extreme-technicality]

does talking to an anon help about ninjago help? cuz I'm down

DHDKCKGSC YES IT DOES THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OFFERING YOUR SERVICES

Okay now that I know I won’t be clogging people’s dashes buckle the fuck in my dude and I should stress that I literally would not be talking about this as much as I will be if I didn’t genuinely enjoy the show. I’m gonna go season by season and just Rant

S1 has the serpentine as the bbeg and like, as far as villains go they’re p lit. They’re early enough that they haven’t been done to hell, things are fresh, the characters and dynamics are being fleshed out, and all in all s1 is a pretty solid season. There’s some fuckery that gets brought up re: how the FUCK aging works and what the actual timeline of Ninjago is and how Wu and Garmadon fit into that timeline, fuckery that LITERALLY NEVER GETS RESOLVED IN A SATISFYING WAY BC ITS REVEALED IN A LATER SEASON (s8, dw we’ll get there lmao) THAT THE ONLY REASON THE FIRST SPINJITSU MASTER, WU, AND GARMADON LIVED AS LONG AS THEY DID IS CUZ THEYRE BASICALLY DEMIGODS AND ITS IMPLIED THAT LLOYD WILL ALSO LIVE FOR A LONG ASS TIME WHICH MEANS ONE DAY HES GONNA OUTLIVE ALL HIS FRIENDS AND EVERYONE HE EVER LOVED WHICH IS A FUN THING TO THINK ABOUT AT NIGHT But anyway I digress, s1 also coincidentally introduces Lloyd (he wasn’t in the pilot episodes that set up the rest of the series) and the existence of Evil Dad Garmadon.

S2 is where Garmadon starts acting a lot more Evil and a lot less Dad. He’s the main antagonist for that season, and I actually read somewhere that the show was originally slated to end after s2 which high key explains the fuckery of literally every single season after this lmaooooo. Much like s1, I really can’t find much to complain about, the first two seasons are pretty decent as far as I can remember

Season. Fucking. Three. Where the fuck do I start??? I hate season three for entirely personal reasons revolving around the STUPID GODDAMN ROMANCE WRITING. okay lemme back up and explain a thing first so, Jay is dating Nya and they’re fine, they’re going steady, aND THEN????? THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON INTRODUCES BULLSHIT LOVE TRIANGLE FUCKERY FOR ZERO GODDAMN REASON, BITCH I HATE LOVE TRIANGLES AND I HATE THEM EVEN MORE WHEN THEYRE DONE FOR NO GODDAMN REASON!!! AND THEN. AS IF THAT WERENT ENOUGH. THEY SHOEHORNED A ROBOT ROMANCE BETWEEN ZANE AND PIXAL AND I KNOW I RANTED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT WHEN I WAS ACTUALLY WATCHING BUT I DIDNT GO INTO ENOUGH DETAIL!!!! THEY MADE THE OTHER NINJA OOC IN ORDER TO PROP UP THEIR SHIP!!!!!! AND AT ONE POINT ZANE GOES “its like we were…made for each other” AND I HAD TO FUCUCJDHVE I HAD TO SCREAM INTO A PILLOW BRO, IM SO TIRED!!!! NO THE FUCK YOU WERENT!!!!!! YOU WERE MADE FOR YOU AND PIXAL WAS MADE FOR PIXAL AND IF YALLS WANNA BANG BOLTS THATS FINE BUT DONT IMPLY THAT EITHER OF YOU WERE MADE INCOMPLETE!!!! THATS AN INSULT TO YOUR MAKERS AND YOURSELVES, MOVE ON, PLEASE AND THANK YOU. anyway that season also killed Zane (for the first time, but not the last) (spoiler alert lmao) and like, not to be an emotional little shit but I did cry a bit at his funeral.

S4 is honestly one of my favorites, even though the romance crimes continue (the love triangle bullshit is continuing and honestly I maintain that Cole, Nya, and Jay should all have gotten together and in my personal canon they DID, and also Kai has a forced romance) the VILLAIN makes up for it imo. He’s campy!! He’s funny!! He’s a clown!! He’s serious enough that if he says “I’m gonna kill you” HE MEANS IT and that’s so fucking refreshing!!!! S4 is honestly 8/10 just for the villain alone, don’t like that it retconned the SHIT out of the elemental masters and how many different elements there are TO master but eh, it’s ninjago, shit is stupid.

S5 was…interesting? OH WAIT I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT S3 INTRODUCED A GARMADON WHO WAS A LOT LESS EVIL AND A LOT MORE DAD, HONESTLY I THOUGHT IT TOOK A LOT OF THE FLAVOR OUT BUT THATS JUST ME LMAOOO. anyway s5 killed Garmadon, and I was a little sad cuz I like him okay??? I just think he’s NEAT, he’s got big dad energy, he was teaching Lloyd some shit that just got DROPPED and literally was never brought up again which is honestly a theme in Ninjago. Ninjago drinking game: take a shot every time they introduce a plot point or ability and drop it at or before the end of the season. WHICH THEY ALSO DID IN S5 WITH A DIFFERENT POWER ACTUALLY, so all the ninja are masters of Spinjitsu right, well s5 introduced the concept of Airjitsu which only Spinjitsu masters can learn and it lets them FLY and they used that for seasons 5 and 6 and then they nEVER BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN EVEN THOUGH IT WOULDVE COME IN HANDY FOR S E V E R A L DIFFERENT SITUATIONS ACROSS THE SEASONS, ONE OF THEM WOULD BE FALLING TO THEIR DOOM AND MY ASS WOULD BE YELLING “YOU CAN FLY, DUMBASS” - anyway, they do that again later lmao it’s fine. But what’s low key NOT fine is they made Nya the WATER NINJA!!! Like I’m not mad she has powers, except I kinda am, she was doing just fine as Samurai X and honestly the only reason she has super special ninja powers is for plot reasons. Also Cole got turned into a ghost, but by s7 he’s????? No longer a ghost????????? And that’s NEVER addressed or reasoned away, so like. Cool lmao

S6 didn’t happen. Like, canonically, s6 ends with wish fuckery that undoes the entire season and none of the characters remember anything that happened except Jay and Nya because S6 is the season where they get back together so they remember all those events for???? Feelings reasons?????? Unclear, moving on. The actual bbeg for S6 was a djinn with a vaguely Spanish accent, and to this DAY I don’t know why they made him have a SPANISH accent. Djinn are Arabic, not Spanish!! They’re not central or South American, either!!!! Your villain design makes no sense, do better

S7 had MORE time fuckery, and retconned what happened to Kai and Nya’s parents and hmmmhmhmhmhmhm that makes me Upsetti Spaghetti :3 not just the retconning, but the fact that they LITERALLY brought them back oNLY TO NEVER MENTION THEM AGAIN!!!!!! LITERALLY!!!!!!!! Okay so at the VERY very beginning, like pilot episodes beginning, Kai talks about their dad like he died/left fairly recently, BUT s7 contradicts that and claims that both of their parents were essentially abducted when Kai and Nya were little kids, which makes me question what in the fresh fuck two little kids were doing for all those years alone. SETTING THAT ASIDE FOR A HOT SECOND, their parents were also apparently good friends of Wu’s and old war buddies (from the Serpentine wars, which is YET ANOTHER bit of the timeline that doesn’t quite add up but honestly I could make a whole other post about that shit). But if they were such good fucking friends, why didn’t Wu check in every now and again??? What the fuck was Wu doing that was so fucking important that he couldn’t have been assed to visit his friends ONCE in like TEN MOTHERFUCKING YEARS and realize “oh shit, they’re not here and there are two tiny children running around unsupervised…My Kids Now : )” LIKE????? WU YOU LOW KEY SHOULDA LOOKED OUT FOR YOUR FRIENDS’ KIDS BETTER, THEY COULDA DIED BRO!!! Uhhhh the time fuckery also results in Wu getting yeeted ahead in time a bit and the ninja gotta find him

Season. Eight. I have…mixed feelings about this one. The beginning absolutely SLAUGHTERED me, and not in a “this is so fucking funny” way. No, the beginning made me feel like I was being flayed alive with just about every episode because Ninjago was back on its forced romance bullshit and this time it was Lloyd’s turn on the chopping block. That hurt my soul cuz like, look at that mans color scheme, he’s CLEARLY alloaro, why are you forcing romance on my aro man, why would you hurt me like that, BUT ALSO BECAUSE HE AND THE GIRL HE WAS BEING SET UP WITH HAD A LITTLE HEART TO HEART REALLY EARLY ON AND IT WAS THE MOST QUEER CODED SHIT!!!! IT DEADASS READ AS A CONVERSATION BETWEEN AN OUT AND PROUD QUEER AND A CLOSETED QUEER AND THEY MADE!!! IT!!!!! STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! The only thing that kept me watching at first was wanting to find Wu, and then I started enjoying myself once Cole found a plot-relevant baby and had fatherhood thrust upon him. Everything went from “ehhhhh” to “holy shit this FUCKS” once it was revealed that Rumi (Lloyd’s love interest) wAS PLAYING HIM THE WHOLE TIME AND WAS EVIL AND HAD AN EVIL GIRLFRIEND!!!!!! LITERALLY IMPROVED EVERYTHING ABOUT THE SEASON FOR ME, I COULD EVEN FORGIVE THE WHOLE “let’s resurrect Garmadon, but as evil as possible” BULLSHIT!!!!!!

S9 is a continuation of s8, Garmadon is back and 1000% Evil, 10% Dad, but none of the Dad energies is directed at Lloyd - it’s all directed at Rumi, and honestly I could write a whole ass post on just RUMI cuz that’s honestly my DAUGHTER and I LOVE HER and I’m MAD SHE DIES AT THE END OF THIS SEASON!!!! SHE DESERVED THERAPY AND TO LIVE WITH HER GF AND MAYBE SOME CRIME. AS A TREAT. RUMI DESERVED BETTER AND LOW KEY IM GONNA WRITE A FIC ABOUT IT, BUT ANYWAY WHERE WAS I

Ah right, so s9 has the four major Ninja stuck in the original dimension with no way home, while Lloyd has no powers (cuz he almost died last season) and has to somehow lead a resistance against Garmadon (who has taken control of Ninjago City and is working on the rest of Ninjago). Actually, s9 is pretty cool. Like, the end of s8 and into s9 are low key my favorite episodes, and I kinda wanna rewatch them now -

S10 is a FUN one. Garmadon got got last season, but he didn’t DIE, so he’s in cold storage and now there’s Another Threat and he’s the only one who knows wtf they’re up against so they let him out and he works with them. The funny part is, he is still Very Much Evil and doesn’t quite Get emotions like he did when he was, uh, human lmao, sO HE WOKE UP EVERY DAY DURING THAT SEASON AND DECIDED TO CAUSE PROBLEMS ON PURPOSE. IT WAS THE FUNNIEST FUCKING SHIT. 1000000/10 MY FAVORITE GARMADON, he ended that season by literally fucking off into Ninjago and they never decided to track him down 😭😭😭😭😭and I’m so SAD about it dude

S11 has another Serpentine as the bbeg, though in the setup to that they retconned how the fucking Serpentine tribes and history work??? I think???? Also Wu was a good 150% angrier and generally Done with the ninja’s shit, which was honestly refreshing tho I’m not quite sure I liked what the refreshed view was, but whatever lmao. S11 also had the ninja get yeeted to the dimension farthest from Ninjago, and honestly - okay, so they didn’t all go at the same TIME, Zane left about a week or two before the others did but there was time dilation fuckery afoot which I’m not too mad about cuz low key it makes sense. What I AM mad about is that they didn’t play the angst up to its full POTENTIAL!!!!!! Zane was EVIL in the other dimension!!!! Okay so I’m Ninjago he was only gone for maybe a week or two, but DECADES had passed in the other one, and all that time Zane was alone and disconnected from everyone he knew and loved, with a staff that boosted his power while slowly corrupting him and Turning Him Evil to help him, and like???? The thought of Zane trying to find a way home, trying to get SOME sort of message back, while he has to use the staff more and more to help him survive the long, lonely decades, so that by the time his family DOES show up its too late??? BRO. B R O. THAT JUST HITS DIFFERENT, BUT NINJAGO DIDNT DO THAT!!! THEY MADE HIM EVIL DUE TO MEMORY WIPE!!!!!! MEMORY WIPE IS BABY SHIT COMPARED TO A LONG, SLOW CORRUPTION!!!!!!

S12 was alright. It went into Cole’s mom, touched on some of the adventures she had had, threatened another forced romance (this time on poor Cole, just leave my mans ALONE) but thankfully didn’t follow through this time, introduced cool new powers that honestly hasn’t been elaborated on since that’s the most recent season I think lmao

Anyway thanks for reading and letting me rant!!!! I have,,So Much More I could talk about, PLEASE ask me about Rumi, some of my headcanons re: Garmadon and Wu’s dynamic, the Serpentine, my top five times they butchered Kai’s character for Plot Reasons, or anything else I brought up here that you want me to elaborate on!!!

[murphystartedthefire]

Hello!!! Hope you're feeling great! I was wondering if you hated echo or not? Because lots of people seem to hate her and i've seen you reblog (kind of) good things about her (?) Anyway I'm just curious because I see that everybody's hating on her and I feel like the only one who's given her the benefit of the doubt. What do you think? (if it's not too much to ask, of course) :)

I definitely don’t hate Echo, I like her! Always did actually, especially as she got more prominent in season 4, because I absolutely have A THING for ruthless female antagonists (as she largely was then) with glimmers of vulnerability and humanity. She’s been an intriguing and sympathetic character from day one IMO.

For a long time it was hard to figure out where the show was going with her – I’m still not 100% sure honestly – and whether she was a character we were ‘supposed’ to like or love-to-hate. (Another thing about me? I love a lot of “love-to-hate” female characters ON SPITE as well, so that wouldn’t have really made a difference.) But for me, the episode where she stabbed Octavia was a turning point, and not in the way a lot of people who hate her think it was… I LOVED her reaction in that moment, ridiculous panda makeup and all. How clearly it was not her plan (she really wanted to take her prisoner and not have to kill her) and how much she instantly regretted it. The following episode too is a really big one for her and Bellamy, where she actually listens to him and takes onboard what he’s saying and refrains from killing Riley (of all people! do you know HOW EASILY i would’ve killed Riley lol). We’ve seen cracks in her stoic armor for a while and that’s something I enjoy in a character.

Idk, I guess what I’m saying is we already *saw* Echo was undergoing a change, questioning the merciless soldier she’d always been, and that only got more extreme by the end of the season when she was left without a king or people to serve anymore. Finding herself rejected and banished, even though in her eyes everything she’d done had been for them and therefore justified. And then she becomes this sad little fish-out-of-water on the rocket. I was not just ready to root for her this season, I was ALREADY rooting for her. :p

And yeah, at least a small part of that is on spite now, because the hate she’s getting is SO excessive that it makes me extra-defensive where I otherwise might’ve been like “whatever, I’m ambivalent about her.” I’d be stunned if they weren’t setting up Bellamy/Echo as a Doomed Ship and I’m not sure they’re even *trying* really to get the audience onboard with it, but at the same time it was pretty obvious that’s been building for a while and it makes absolute sense to me that those characters would find solace & forgiveness in each other once they were no longer living at war.

I’ve got TV trust issues and am allergic to even implied love triangles, so my main concern has ALWAYS been that the show is actually kind of poking the fanbase and setting Echo up to be vilified/hated. Which would be incredibly gross and if it led to something like her being killed by one of the heroes (ESPECIALLY Bellamy himself) I would be beyond furious.

My concern about that hasn’t dropped to zero, but I do like what we’ve seen so far. Particularly in the last ep, the sincerity and compassion from her both in not wanting Bellamy, Monty, and Harper to die for her and not wanting to betray the innocent redshirts – while at the same time pulling that YIKES move of using that girl’s bullet wound to hide the flash drive and looking so proud of herself. She hasn’t become a totally different person but instead is using the same resourcefulness and loyalty she always had and I FOR ONE DIG IT. (Also bird noises! God I want more Murphy & Echo.) Basically I am really psyched to see where this Eligius spy storyline goes and get some more scenes of her with Raven and the others from spacekru, my favorite kru that has ever existed.

Thanks for the ask!

P.S. To the other anon - I reeeeally don’t wanna get into the whole ship war thing, but HELL YES panicky Bellamy tripping over his “I can come get you in the rover” words and Echo making reference to the MW cages made me weak. I’m glad we got some onscreen intimacy between them. This was a good week for all my unpopular ships (even Niylarke even if she’s a Little Bit Insane now).