#they type and act like a teen so. idk maybe just a teenager being stupid online
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felinecorpse · 1 year ago
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Just saw the words “aids infested blood” on tumblr in the year of our lord 2023
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groenendaelfic · 1 year ago
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i love YR and i love wille and simon so much but i will be a simon defender till the day i die. i can see both wille’s and simon’s POVs for how they acted but idk as poor POC simon’s actions resonate more with me. regardless, the reason why i say this is because i always see so much more wille support/simon hate online than i do vice versa. im not asking for wille hate but im asking for prepubescent girls to stop supporting wille simply because he’s an attractive white boy. i dont know—maybe im oversimplifying things but what do you think about the split between simom defenders and wille defenders?
I get it. It's not fair but I get it.
Why?
Because Simon is all of us.
I might be able to identify more with Wilhelm when it comes to many things, his personality, his anxiety, his temper... but in essence every single one of us will always have more in common with Simon than with Wilhelm.
It doesn't matter how different our lives, upbringings and the small everyday things which shaped and defined us are from Simon's. It doesn't matter how much I see my younger self reflected in Wilhelm, how much I can relate to his struggles (I mean it does, but for this specific argument it doesn't). My life will still always be closer to Simon's than to Wilhelm's.
We are Simon. Simon fucks up. Simon makes mistakes. Far reaching mistakes, and it's always easier to be self-critical and insecure than not to.
I'm Simon. But I wouldn't have done xyz! (I wouldn't, I'd either have done something worse or nothing at all, which might just be worse still.)
Simon is a teen and he makes teen mistakes. Sometimes understandable ones, sometimes stupid ones, sometimes crazy ones.
It's normal. It's relatable, it's every one of us but different. Of course it's easier to be critical of Simon. To 'hate on' Simon. He is us, but he doesn't always act like we would, nor does he act like the idealized version of the beloved character we want him to be.
He's a teenager and he's flawed and he's human. We love him and we want him to be perfect but he isn't. Of course there's Simon 'hate'. It's not okay, but I get it.
Simon is us, but he makes mistakes we, however unconsciously, think we wouldn't. We think we would do better, or at least we hope so, and so we criticize him.
It's not right, but I also get the urge to do so even if I don't approve.
Wilhelm however? Wilhelm is different.
Wilhelm is a prince. Worse, he's a crown prince and future king. He's His Royal Highness The Crown Prince of Sweden, Duke of Some Historical Province or Another.
His entire existence causes a knee-jerk reaction of defensiveness. At least it does in me.
Him being a minor who didn't choose who he was born as helps, but it's not enough. Yes, his life isn't easy. Yes he's living with pressure none of us can understand. Not the irl crown princess and not rwrb's Henry.
But he also has power and privilege and wealth the likes of which we'll never truly be able to comprehend. No matter what he chooses to do once he's an adult, he'll always have that.
Wilhelm's entire existence is a reflection of most of what's wrong with this world. I cannot in good conscience root for him and I shouldn't like him. We shouldn't romanticize and glorify royalty, not even fictional one, because all their wealth, power and privilege is built on our backs and sustained by our backs.
I should hate him, not feel sorry for him. I shouldn't empathize with him.
And yet Wille is my bb and my fav and I love him and he never did anything wrong in his life. Not ever. Wille is perfect. He deserves the world and I'll defend him and his wrongs to the very end of it and damn everything and everyone else.
Why?
Because if I start to acknowledge, in all seriousness, that any of his mistakes or wrongs are in fact mistakes and deserve (more) consequences, no matter if it's the fact that he's an objectively bad friend to Felice (I'm already getting super defensive typing these words because Wilhelm, my poor bb, had reasons and deserves to be selfish!) or that you never, ever point any gun at anyone, not ever, or any of his other numerous mistakes, then I'm opening up a Pandora's box I cannot close again.
Yes, he's a teenager and he's flawed and he's human. Yes, he makes stupid, far reaching mistakes. Yes, it's everyone else who hands him his power and privilege. Yes, it's all inherited, as is his wealth, but that doesn't make it alright.
You cannot, in good conscience, root for Wilhelm without also acknowledging or at least being aware of the inherent power dynamics at play, and I'm not only talking about Wilhelm and Simon's relationship, but Wilhelm and everyone, including his mother and the royal court and the entire government.
All three need Wilhelm more than he needs them, and once he fully realizes that he's going to be (even more of) a menace.
Wilhelm doesn't have any political power on paper, but that doesn't mean that his actions can't influence and control the entire Swedish legislature for years. That can be good, sure, at least in the long term, but it'll also take away from much needed other laws etc being discussed and passed, ones which would better the lives of many Swedes directly and immediately. That is scary, because it's real, or it could be.
Wilhelm is a minor and Young Royals is captivating, fictional escapism. But my ardent republican heart (of the non US kind) still struggles with not getting immediately defensive when talking about my love for Wilhelm, because Young Royals is also so real and realistic and a reflection of so many things which are still extremely problematic in our oh so progressive, look at how much worse all the other countries are, can't you be happy with what you've got? part of the world in ways many other shows aren't, and Wilhelm and his rank and title and entire existence are at the heart of it.
The biggest 'problem' Young Royals has is that despite the premise, it is so realistic and relatable and well done. It's almost impossible to escape into the fiction of it to a degree where you can solely focus on the cute boys falling in love and the romantic tragedy of their struggles, without also being at the very least peripherally aware of our reality being reflected in every scene.
Young Royals is romantic and hot and heart-wrenching, but it also criticizes the system and society and shows us exactly how little people like Simon, people like us, matter to the upper class, and it does so from the very first episode in which Simon tries his best to stay strong and tells everyone exactly who the country's biggest welfare receivers are. And he's right.
Simon deserves our defense, our support. But I don't feel the need to. I should, because Simon is not as strong as he wants to be, but he's also a normal teen and nothing is easier than looking down on teenagers and people we can identify with or have things in common with. We all do it all the time, willingly or not, consciously or not, thinking we're better, that we'd do better, no matter how much we love them, because not doing so would mean acknowledging our own faults and flaws, would mean we'd have to admit that Simon is doing the best he can in a way most of us probably wouldn't be able to.
Wilhelm however? I can identify with parts of him despite of everything he stands for and not because, and that is scary, because I don't want to have anything in common with a future hereditary head of state.
I don't want to sympathize with royalty, with people who can control others around them with nothing but words, worse their mere existence. People who, were I to address them in anything other than the third person and with a title, would consider me to be the rude one, as would everyone around us.
And yet I do. I do identify with Wilhelm. I sympathize with him. I think I understand him, but scratching the surface of that is dangerous, because no matter how much we need escapism in these hard times romanticizing royalty, sympathizing with them and thinking they're just like us is not only tricky but dangerous.
It's what the elites want, all of them, while they laugh at our plight and profit off of our hard work. It's what gets horrible people elected president and billionaires turned into cool, dudebro heroes. It's a slippery slope and none of them are the exception, no matter how much they try to convince us otherwise.
Of course we get defensive, of course we're so passionate to highlight that Wilhelm's mistakes are okay and are overly critical of Simon's.
Defending Wilhelm is not rational, it's not logical, and yet it is, which is why I will burn down the world in Wille's defense and serve it to him on a silver platter, because my bb deserves everything and his feelings and struggles are valid and who am I to judge. Wille never did anything wrong.
Finally, I get where you're coming from, but please don't make this about prepubescent girls. Or teenage girls. Being a girl that age is hard. Your body and feelings are changing in ways you don't understand, people suddenly treat you differently. Adults, kids, other teens no matter their gender. You are sexualized, and your intelligence and skills are suddenly only of secondary importance at best. It's scary, and even when it's good it's not safe. You always need to be wary and careful lest you have to pay a price for your joyful inattentiveness, a potentially traumatic, life changing price. Being a prepubescent and teenage girl is also wonderful and freeing and eye opening in the best way, but anything you do or say will always be reduced to silly teenage girl, even by other teenage girls, someone to be made fun of and not taken seriously, when in truth nothing requires more strength and tenacity than surviving as a prepubescent and teenage girl. So if fixating on attractive, unattainable white boys helps? Let them and don't judge, no matter your age or gender. It's not perfect, but it's safe. More, it's a safe way to explore your budding sexuality and bond with others along the way, something which is so important when nothing about being a girl that age ever feels safe, not even when you think you can do anything and know everything. That attractive, unattainable (white) boy? Be it Wilhelm or the current boygroup heartthrob of choice? He is going to reveal private things about himself (most likely made up, but that doesn't invalidate how finding out those facts makes you feel) without demanding a price, you can develop an intense parasocial relationship with him and learn and grow from it, it can help you in many ways which aren't obvious at first (I still keep up with my teenage boygroup and listen to every one of their new albums even though it's been twenty years and I've had musical anhedonia for almost as long), and he will never, ever grope you or insult you or make you feel awkward and insecure, nor will he ever pressure you to do something you're not ready for (unless it's to spend money you don't have on useless stuff you desperately need). Please don't be condescending or judgmental of prepubescent girls, especially ones having to grow up in the age of social media and smartphones everywhere. Fixating on the attractive white boy is a matter of self-defense. It doesn't mean they aren't aware of what they're doing or that doing so isn't ideal. They know. Everyone is constantly telling them and making them feel guilty about it. Please don't be one of them.
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clownhooves · 2 months ago
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LONG RAMBLING KIND OF VENT POST (I GUESS????)
I've been seeing a weird discourse about the word """puriteen""" and idk I mostly don't care because they're teenagers and will probably grow out of that shit and look back on it and go "eugh i was a little shit back then" like most people do.
But
What I'm actually concerned about is the weird right wing shit teens are buying into (without knowing) and spreading that shit amongst each other like some sort of plague of hatred and ostracization, trying to fucking ruin each other's lives. The whole """puriteen""" mindset (and honestly call out culture and cringe culture) is rooted in a lot of satanic panic shit. Trying to sniff out the "bad" people so no one thinks you're a bad person.
They think, "maybe if you make call out posts against enough people and put enough things in your dni list you can be a good person and no one will make a call out posts against you, right?" "Maybe you won't lose all of your friends, because those eggshells you've been walking on for what feels like forever can definitely handle the weight of all of your fears and anxieties and all of the weird fucked up feelings that comes with puberty, right?"
Look I've been bullied by my peers (is that the right word?) pretty much my entire life up until my second or third year of highschool, by then barely anyone wanted to even have anything to do with me. I know what it's like to have nasty fucking rumors that you barely even know, that last for fucking years, spread about you because you're annoying and you act kinda weird and awkward, and you let it slip that your queer, constantly walking on eggshells and being called a million different slurs most of witch don't even apply to you.
shit was fucking terrible then and it still bothers me, and I'm fucking *21* now.
And now, this shit has gotten way fucking worse hasn't it? I fucking dread the shit queer kids must be going through right now. Especially since schools have been getting worse and worse and worse, it's like they're trying to fucking work teenagers to death or something. imagine dealing with the stuff that comes with a shitty school system while also dealing with puberty and also dealing with figuring out your identity and sexuality while everyone around you is judging every single fucking thing you do offline and online, every stupid opinion you have, every piece of media you like, every person you follow, all under a microscope being looked at by a giant faceless hoard of people, who are all simultaneously, strangers, friends, and people you love. ALL WHILE YOU ARE A TEENAGER, A LITERAL GIANT WALKING TODDLER WHOS PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY HORMONES AND BAD IDEAS.
Like COME ON how is that not absolutely fucked up?????
Is there even anything that can be done about this shit? Fucking dog piling on teenagers going through a horrifying moral and existential crisis everyday definitely doesn't fucking help.
The anti bullying campaigns in the 2010s didn't seem to fucking work at all, probably because those people had absolutely no idea what teenagers were like.
So like, what the fuck is anyone supposed to do? Trying to sanitize the Internet isn't a solution because that fucking ruins things for everyone.
It seems like teenagers are trying to coexist with adults on platforms made for neither of them. Teenagers don't have anywhere to express themselves or explore their own emotions or identities. I sure as hell fucking didn't and that resulted in some EXTREMELY BAD THINGS (I'm gonna keep what exactly happened vague for now because it's really personal)
I don't know how to really end this rambling mess of a post, it's just been some shit I've been really worried about, I just hope my brother doesn't get sucked into this shit. I hope this all makes sense because I'm really bad at typing and this post is REAALLY LONG and stream of consciousness like.
I hope this isn't too indescribable.
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delusion-of-negation · 3 years ago
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so the op of that "don't bully teens" post now blocked me - I wanna reply to this one (since I typed it up only to find out that I am blocked) never said that school wasn't important or that a joke alone was more important - I said that it is more important to look after your physical and mental health than to get amazing grades, because you can retake exams a lot easier than you can repair damage done by self-neglect. it isn't inherent to making a silly joke based on an internet maymay that you're not doing school stuff, they're not mutually exclusive, but having chill time and having fun are vital components of a good environment for mental and physical health, which in turn will make you more able to do well in exams because you're in a better place, even if it means retaking them later. that isn't telling people to just neglect school. but I also said that ultimately this convo about what is more important is deflecting from the main point that y'all shouldn't bully and insult teens who are just making jokes on tiktok, it's not at all going to encourage them to focus on school it's going to upset and annoy them. also them discovering things doesn't mean someone has groomed them, you can find shit out on your own - do you seriously think everyone who's in any way into fucking feet or big tiddy or all that stuff was groomed? people just be like that, as long as they're being safe and aren't out there doing anything at that age, it's fine, making the silly internet meme joke about it is just fine. also want to reply to a reply to my comment on the other thread (the convo was on two posts) pygmy-possum said: "@/patchuolli that’s a good point, but nowhere did the screenshot of the tiktok mentioned smth like that. they didn’t say how to safely explore their sexual interests, they were just shaming the teenagers" fucking thank you! there's now both rightwing asshats and terfs swarming this, going off that trans people are tryna fucking groom kids and all that shit, when all we're saying is don't bully kids and then fucking call it anti pedo activism. and I wanna reply to @feathery-dickmuffins (well, specifically the tags, from this reply) "#it's like...have you not made edgy and sex jokes around the people you talked with when you were a teen? #I mean hell most teens legally do even more sex-related things but we won't get into that #it's just weird like them ppl be having legal sex and you're here getting pissy over them making jokes #they do worse things in the bedroom. #I know I said I wouldn't get into it'd but I fucking lied. you know it's true. we all know it's true. #it's their right. #do you not remember being a 15 years old or something?" bruh, the age of consent is 16 where I live, a lot of teens do it with each other before then, but bruh 100% these people call people babies, lil' teeny tiny children, innocent precious flowers, and it's like bro they know what sex is, here it's legal for them to do it and they most certainly do (I used to volunteer for an lgbt youth group and I had to answer plenty of questions about situations revolving around that, because they were doing it and lgbt sex ed in schools wasn't there, so they had to ask the volunteers). chill the fuck out and let them make jokes based on internet maymays, it really ain't fuckin' deep. I literally talk about how it's a bad thing that so many kids under 16 have sex, that we need far better sex ed so it doesn't fall on volunteers, in this very reply and earlier ones I've said that we need better education and that they shouldn't be having sex under 16, yet this post is full of people saying my reply is "concerning" and the others, mischaracterising us, all sorts of shit. I am so tired of people being unable to read and unable to separate teens from babies, so they go apeshit at somebody even suggesting that it's fucking stupid to bully kids over a joke then act like you're fighting the pedos - maybe they just feel called out, maybe they switched their brains off and saw what they wanted to see idk but either way it's so fucking stupid.
it's just an internet meme, calm your tits and focus all the energy on stuff that will actually help people.
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perfectionistincrisis · 7 years ago
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Day 83, 84
Didnt post for awhile cause I needed to get some thoughts straight in my head. Idk if i could get them totally straight and i dont even know whether i will ever be able to get them to but its okay i think. I mean it just comes with the baggage of life and inshaAllah I will deal with it along the way whenever it is in action. 
So theres been many thoughts coming in my head but then all of it can be connected and related to each other so its just more like one big massive ball of thoughts. I will try to mention whatever comes in my head for now. But hmppphhhh where do i start *wonders* 
Okay so i have 2 start points, ill pick the one which is currently still a thought cause the other one is kind of resolved :3 
So this is about this conversation i had with him a year ago, exactly around this time last year. I will not talk about our conversation on the internet :3 but just what it was about so that I can get to what it is in my head 
Well we werent really going through a good phase back then and once he told me something about ‘love’ & ‘duty’. Like there are things you do out of love, and there are things which are ‘duty’ but you do not love doing them but have to anyways. 
The thing is, it is kind of hard for me to understand the relation between ‘love & duty’. To be honest, i did get what he meant back then, and things were different back then (meaning, we were going out) & if not so much, but you could put what he said into context at least a little. 
But now, I just dont understand the connection, nor can i appreciate the difference between these two terms. When i say i dont understand the connection - i mean to say i dont understand it, but i believe they are more related and similar than they are different. 
When you love someone, and they mean the world to you, and you put them before yourself. You can do anything for them, to protect them, to make sure they are ok. Their happiness matters to you so much. It is so important for you - because you love them unconditionally. and also because when they are not happy, you are not happy either. So you want the best of the best for them, for their happiness,
 “and in turn - for yourself too” 
“and in turn - for yourself too” ---> this is why I dont understand this difference. You see when you love someone and you want all of that, you always wish you could do something for them. and you actually do everything “possible for you to do” for them. And when you cant, it kills you and you ‘wish’ theres something you couldve done. Now all these wishes, all these wanting to do something, all these prayers, all these urge, these pain - these are just a package. They come along when you fall in love. And they are there. 
Now in other words ^ I think i can simply say - “you feel like its your duty to take care of them, to do whatever you can for them” 
Now what is “duty”? Idk what it means front he dictionary point of view, but for me it responsibility - and responsibilities/ duties - i think i can come up with 2 types right now - one that is enforced upon you (you dont like doing, maybe) BUT then there is another one - One that you enforce upon Your. Own. Self. because of your affection for someone/ something. Now i really want to point out that there is no “pressure” here in the second one. You are doing it to yourself, technically you can snap out of it but you actually can not. YOU wont let yourself do that. YOU will bound yourself to care, to love, to worry, to act out - you believe its your responsibility.
AND there is nothing bad in it. In fact i think it is amazing! 
Why i am pointing this out is that  - this is the only way i seem to appreciate the connection between ‘love and duty’/ love vs responsibilities - I think they are are the same. atleast for ME, they are the same. So i have been trying to look deeply into it, and find out something that ive been missing out to appreciate the difference but every single attempt to do so leads me to this same concept which i just mentioned. and it is more like something being solved even before i sat down to figure it out. it all seems so simple. 
now how this plays in my daily life right now is how i always wish i could do something for him. now idk much about him obviously cause we dont communicate. but still wondering if he is okay - and worrying about him, and thinking of him - i dont need to make myself do that cause its there by default - and on top of that this tiny feeling of guilt engraved at the bottom of my heart because im aware that there is only so little or lets say nothing much at all i can do ----- that, i believe is the duty/ responsibility i was talking about. something i brought onto myself and i dont mind it at all. but this is the very same reason why i dont get the difference between love and duty at all. i dont think you have to give someone your word in order to have a responsibility towards them. I believe if you love someone, you automatically feel like its your duty to take care of them. 
At least thats how it is for me! 
so yeah, theres that. i always feel this way. everyday. I really pray that day comes soon where i can do way more than just sit and worry about him, inshaAllah
Now thats that! like i said all the thoughts are related. So now ill move onto the “fear”. Now about the fear. well 
misunderstanding and misinterpretations
misunderstanding and misinterpretations - these are always there. always. even when people ‘communicate’ they indeed fail to communicate well. Now just imagine how ‘cool’ it gets when you dont communicate - not so cool 
I mean it scares me - is something giving the wrong? anything i do, or anything i say - is it something he’d like? does it seem not right? i mean i have no intentions of hurting him or doing anything negative but it is only human nature to make assumptions - or to misinterpret something - or to misunderstand - and it is not anyones fault - because although there may be a million reasons why one could get a wrong message - one of the main ones are fear once again or being worried, or caring. 
So yeah, theres always this fear at the back of my head, trying not to be irrational. and when things are bugging me, trying to shut up, stay shuttttttt instead of acting out. because, this moment will pass, but something i express just out of current volatile mood could get to him and do i ever want that? nooo
^ so that is one of the reasons why i dont always blog. and also the same reason for this weekend drama! 
Okay so this is the other stuff i could start my post with. this is fun loll. so i still am not sure whats up but this is my solved case lol - as in what i figured out myself and think is actually what happened. so i woke up on friday and i saw one of his tweets. it seemed to me like it was the time when someone last checked into some social media. UH WELL. and yeah thats it :) that is what got in to my head. a lot of things at once actually. i guess ill just point a few -
1- someone lucky enough to get that much attention from him that hed tweet something like that. i mean its definitely not me, cause all i could think of was whatsapp and well i have the time thingy hidden there AND ALSO, honestly i never had any real conversation, like a real one where im instantly replying to someone and shit with anyone i think after we stopped talking - basically i cant communicate well with people - i feel like having a normal conversation where i sit with my phone and talk to someone and actually bother to give them instant replies is too much of commitment & no i cant put that much effort for anyone ------ so yeah, that kind of made it clearer that obviously its not me, i dont even go to whatsapp! Bleeeeeh - well yeah later i just think i figured its some other app - idk - or maybe there just is a special new person :) 
2- It just started to seem really really disturbing - how the tweet bothered me so much. I mean i have no right to get bothered. Like what am I? I mean we’re definitely not together right now. And we dont talk. And even if we were together just saying, i definitely dont want to be a creepy chic who has a problem with things like these. like, woah hold your brakes. who are you to feel bothered by stuff like these :) 
3- And then i realised that i really need to take a BIG BIG step backwards - like Breathe, honey. chill. dont let every little thing get to you. EXPAND your mind, think bigger. i mean im not thirteen anymore and this is not a teen fiction novel where teenage girls get jealous over stuff, and everything bothers them, and blabla shit. Ugh hindi movies and tv series are the same too lool. ---- Wel anyways long story short - i was just - “Training my mind and soul to just let go and think bigger”. I shouldn’t be getting bothered by things like this in his life, thats not my place right now i think! 
SO YES THATS IT - UH i finally got to jot down this stuff! Such a relieffff ~ 
So lets re-cap :3 
~ Aha, so turns out im basically always thinking about him, theres guilt wishing i could do something, theres fear hoping i dont screw up in ways im too stupid to even realize, and theres me being a little girl, but one badly in love! ~
Ok bye :)
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supercilicus-blog · 8 years ago
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1 - 50 :3c
character solidifying | closed bc u made me do them all how dare u
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strap in fellas, its gonna be looooooooooooooong
1. How does your character think of their father? What do they hate and love about him? What influence - literal or imagined - did the father have?
He hates him, there’s no question about it. His father was drunk, absent, and verbally abusive, and a lot of 13′s issues and negative connotations about fatherhood stems from this man. Regardless of how he feels, his father did push him towards his own drinking problems and him running away on multiple accounts. If it weren’t for him, 13 would have never ran away and eventually become an android, which he really happens to enjoy being. Anyways, there’s nothing about him he loves lmao
2. Their mother? How do they think of her? What do they hate? Love? What influence - literal or imagined - did the mother have?
This man fucking loves his mom to death, he’d gladly fly back home to talk to her if it didn’t mean he’d have to reconcile with his other family. She was a very influential figure during his childhood. Because of her, he learned to be confident and well mannered to others when it’s required to be so. The only thing he really dislikes about her is the fact she stays with someone like his dad.
3. Brothers, sisters? Who do they like? Why? What do they despise about their siblings?
Ooooh boy, he’s got 7 older siblings lmao, he really…doesn’t like many of them at all. He’s neutral about his eldest brother, Eli, and he’s pretty close to his youngest older sister, Elizabeth. Eli mainly because he actually like, tried helping him out with the problems he had? He did participate in teasing 13 a lot, but he at least apologized afterwards and tried to make it up to him. Liz was actually NICE to him and brushed his hair, played with him and babysat him when it was needed. The others, he really just doesn’t like because they were awful to him and picked on him a lot. 13 would gladly get back in touch with Liz, and maybe Eli, he doesn’t care about the others.
4. What type of discipline was your character subjected to at home? Strict? Lenient?
Given the amount of kids they have, I feel like the family is kind of a mixture of strict and lenient, strict bc there’s a shit ton of kids and they don’t want any of them hurt or lost, but lenient where by the time 13′s born, they know how to handle him and they kinda let him do his own thing. Though they did get the ass smacking punishment though, from dad, another reason 13 hates him tbh, bc once 13 started getting older and his siblings started getting into their teens/adulthood he started being…left out of things so he acted out a lot for attention, which more or less resulted in him getting in trouble, so they started being strict with him when he got older.
5. Were they overprotected as a child? Sheltered?
Overprotected by his mother, certainly, but he did often wander away from the family, whether in their own backyard, or out in public, he really craved to be independent as a child bc his mother smothered him, his siblings always taunted him, but once he actually got that independence when he was older, he started getting really lonely so he began to act out so they’d notice him again.
6. Did they feel rejection or affection as a child?
HAHAHAHA OH BOY. It’s really complicated. While he was very annoyed with his siblings as a child, he definitely knew that they loved him, as well as his mother, but the more his father’s absence and neglect became apparent to him, and the teasing became more aggressive the more he began to feel like he was a an accident? His self doubt became very very more…present once his teens came around, so he often felt like he wasn’t supposed to be there, like he was just the scraps, extras, etc. He felt a lot of affection, of course, but for the most part he felt isolated and rejected a lot during his teens and a bit in his childhood.
7. What was the economic status of their family?
They were poor, not in poverty or anything, but enough where 13′s parents had to save money to pay for the house and food, and the kids had to share what they had with each other. So 13 basically got all the hand me downs, clothes, toys, school supplies, etc. He shared a room with his brothers, while his sisters had their own room, their folks had their own room, etc.
8. How does your character feel about religion?
His mother’s a very hardcore Chris///tian, not homophobic or any of that garbage by any means, bc two of her kids are gay/bi and hell yeah she’s gonna love and support them, but she did have praying before meals, crosses hanged in the house, and praying before bed time. While 13 did participate in all of that and was raised with that, he doesn’t practice the religion or anything. He feels indifferent about it, but he’s not ath///iest by any means.
9. What about political beliefs?
He honestly doesn’t fuckin care, he’d rather stay away from politics as far as possible. BUT HE’S NOT A TR//////////////////MP SUPPORTER, YEA IVE SEEN PPL SAY HE IS AND I JUST????????? NO FUCK U HE’S NOT A DICKBAG LIKE U. anyways, nah, he ain’t a politics guy, bye
10. Is your character street-smart, book-smart, intelligent, intellectual, slow-witted?
Despite his upbringing and the environment he lived in, he’s actually pretty smart and very observant. He’s smart enough where he COULD have had a career in architecture if he actually graduated highschool, so that’s something. He just kind of…plays with how people will assume he’s dumb bc of his whole redneck stereotype, he’ll use that to his advantage so ppl are caught offguard by actually how well planned he is?
11. How do they see themselves: as smart, as intelligent, uneducated?
He knows he can do a lot better, he knows hes capable of doing much greater things than drinking around and generally just, being homeless and lazy but he just, sees no point in doing it if he’s just gonna be seen as an asshole his entire life, which was the mindset that got him into being an android, and honestly, after becoming a cyborg he’s done a lot better than before?? he’s waaay more confident, etc. Being a cyborg is everything to him.
12. How does their education and intelligence – or lack thereof - reflect in their speech pattern, vocabulary, and pronunciations?
It would depend I guess. Uh, I mean 13′s pretty good at coming up with solutions to things and he’s pretty good at calculating someone’s habits and patterns in battle, so i’d say his intelligence would really shine through then, but again, he kind of restrains himself so people would think he’s one of those big, tough, stupid rednecks before he outsmarts them and walks away the winner.
13. Did they like school? Teachers? Schoolmates?
As a kid, he kinda did, I mean before his teenager years he was the sweetest fuckin kid ever? he was really sensitive and shy and quiet but boy did he love learning, the teachers loved him, he didnt have too many friends tho. When he got older, when he got in his ‘acting out for attention’ phase, he was loud, distracting, he ditched class and often was the kid to talk back to the teacher, so he didn’t have too many friends either. The teachers didn’t like him too much, his schoolmates just kinda….dismissed him as the weird redneck kid, so he didn’t really like that much either.
14. Were they involved at school? Sports? Clubs? Debate? Were they unconnected?
As a kid, he played the fiddle in his music class, other than that he didn’t really do clubs or anything, he wasn’t in highschool that much either to really sign up for clubs or sports.
15. Did they graduate? High-School? College? Do they have a PHD? A GED?
He didn’t graduate rip he dropped out :”^)
16. What does your character do for a living? How do they see their profession? What do they like about it? Dislike?
He’s kinda a cyborg created/modified to kill Son Goku and he’s….pretty deadset on accomplishing that, he owes it to Gero for all the things the old man did to make his life, uh…an improvement, in a sense. He honestly just feels it like an obligation, he does kind….of feel weird that he’s straight up killing someone, but it’s his job and he’s gonna do it. He just hates having to fucking travel everywhere just to find this guy.
17. Did they travel? Where? Why? When?
Yeah, he’s traveled a lot, and considering he used to be from America, born an’ raised in Arkansas, he traveled and left the country for Gero to work on him, so he’s been to a lot of places. He doesn’t like it though, too much worrying about directions.
18. What did they find abroad, and what did they remember?
I mean, it’s because of him traveling, in a technical stance, that he ended up finding Seven and activating her so???? he found a family :”) lmAO but he ended up actually finding a new life for himself and while he may not??? ever ever EVER say it, he does consider the androids a kind of new family, specifically 14 15 and 7 bc they actually??? tolerate him and he appreciates that.
19. What were your character’s deepest disillusions? In life? What are they now?
Going from what he’s said in his movie, he honestly thinks??? Humans are pretty shitty, they cause a lot of pain and hatred, etc, etc. He used to think that they were hot shit ‘cause they accomplished a lot of cool things? But while traveling he saw that there are still places where people are still treated horribly?? And when finding out about how 7 was turned into a cyborg, he found out about how terrible Gero really is?? So honestly, he’s disgusted by the horrible capabilities that humanity has.
20. What were the most deeply impressive political or social, national or international, events that they experienced?
None, probably, idk.
21. What are your character’s manners like? What is their type of hero? Whom do they hate?
he’s oddly…civilized, mostly because his mother’s morals and all that stuff about manners is so ingrained into his memory that it’s pretty much habitual for him to be so polite when he firsts introduces himself, but at the same time he gets extremely cocky to the point where he gets carried away and he comes off as really brash and rude. anyways, he doesn’t like the whole hero schtick and just, hates people who generally believe in things that don’t logically make sense.
22. Who are their friends? Lovers? ‘Type’ or ‘ideal’ partner?
He had a couple childhood friends tbh, but he fell out of contact with them pretty damn hard. Honestly, the only actual friends he has is 14, 15, 7 and yes, I’m actually gonna consider Bojack his friend in a completely serious manner, even if they are acquaintances at this point in time, 13′s definitely considering him his friend. He doesn’t really have a type, just as long as they’re honest with him and respect him? Guy has a thing for redheads tho, so his ideal gf is just, be funny, be respectful, etc. He got his ideal gf lucky him
23. What do they want from a partner? What do they think and feel of sex?
THIS GUY LOVES SEX, he isn’t….sex crazed by any means or anything like that, but he is definitely experienced and he knows enough about it to be pretty good at it too??? anyways, so long as the girl consents and is down to get dirty and experiment with him, he’s fine with any sex partner.
24. What social groups and activities does your character attend? What role do they like to play? What role do they actually play, usually?
he ain’t a social guy, so probably nothing
25. What are their hobbies and interests?
playing the fiddle, wood whittling, hunting, bird calls, hiking, camping, traveling, hitchhiking, building and tinkering with things
26. What does your character’s home look like? Personal taste? Clothing? Hair? Appearance?
WHAT HOME THO, this boy is a bum
27. How do they relate to their appearance? How do they wear their clothing? Style? Quality?
answered this one already, i believe
28. Who is your character’s mate? How do they relate to him or her? How did they make their choice?
Sev!!! oh man, this guy loves her so much, she was??? so patient with him in the few years he was traveling with her, trying to help her adjust to the new world she missed in the 20 years she was deactivated after finding her in gero’s sub lab. he thinks she’s fucking hilarious and charming?? she’s smart, talented and just…she cares about him so much and it just, makes him feel really wanted and appreciated and he loves her so fuckin much aaaAAA, anyways 7 was the one to initiate everything :”) he decided to humor her and go along with her when she asked him out a few days after they fucked ( again she initiated ) and like, a month later he’s just ‘oh shit i think i love her??’
29. What is your character’s weaknesses? Hubris? Pride? Controlling?
Words get to him a lot, he’s prone to quick anger when he actually let’s it get to him, he can be reckless and stupid sometimes, and he can get overconfident as well.
30. Are they holding on to something in the past? Can he or she forgive?
:”)))))))))))))) he honestly distanced himself from his past so much that he legitimately like, doesn’t think about it on a daily basis like he used to?? but man if someone even brings the subject up that might make him think about it, he really…doesn’t appreciate it at all. He doesn’t forgive easily at all lmao
31. Does your character have children? How do they feel about their parental role? About the children? How do the children relate?
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY. he gonna be a dad soon/is a dad depending on when u read this. Okay, considering the mess that was his dad, 13 is really??? nervous, anxious and even scared to be a father bc he doesn’t want to end up like his dad did, so he jsut….kinda has a habit of avoiding his responsibilites. At the same time, he’s kinda…fascinated by the idea of having kids with sev bc he has another chance to really do something decent with his life, so he’s pretty damn mixed on the whole situation, but it’s his responsibility and he’s going to own up to it for once and actually be around for them.
32. How does your character react to stress situations? Defensively? Aggressively? Evasively?
he honestly just avoids his problems altogether, but he’s very very irritable when he’s stressed
33. Do they drink? Take drugs? What about their health? 
this guy’s got a bad drinking problem tho, even if he’s an android and can’t really, get sick to the degree humans can?? so he’ll be fine….for while
34. Does your character feel self-righteous? Revengeful? Contemptuous?
hmm, i’d say he’s pretty contemptuous about the whole human free will spiel he had going on in his movie. ( u can tell im tired w writing these bc u sENT LITERALLY ALL OF THEM )
35. Do they always rationalize errors? How do they accept disasters and failures?
oh man when he messes up it fucks with him, like subtly, he won’t really freak out physically and all at once, but it’ll stick with him for weeks and he won’t let it go for awhile until he finally manages to fix the problem just to get on with his life
36. Do they like to suffer? Like to see other people suffering?
super 13 gets off on it– nah but honestly, it kind of, makes him really uncomfortable bc it does vaguely remind him of how much he struggled growing up and this man hates being reminded of how weak he used to be
37. How is your character’s imagination? Daydreaming a lot? Worried most of the time? Living in memories?
honestly he’s…not very good at imagining things, his poor kids will b stuck w his horrible storytelling lmAO, he’s just…not good at those sort of things, but oddly, he’s creative with insults and jokes?? lm ao
38. Are they basically negative when facing new things? Suspicious? Hostile? Scared? Enthusiastic?
suspicious for certain, but he’d at least TRY before either continuing or giving up
39. What do they like to ridicule? What do they find stupid?
i can’t really point out specific things he’d ridicule, but he’s FOR SURE the type to call someone out on doing something stupid, or generally just call things he doesn’t like/understand stupid
40. How is their sense of humor? Do they have one?
13′s sense of humor is so fucking obscure???? he’ll laugh at pretty much….well, what you’d expect. redneck humor, etc, but god his favorite is just cute animals doing dumb things for some reason??? that shit gets to him and it’s so weird…
41. Is your character aware of who they are? Strengths? Weaknesses? Idiosyncrasies? Capable of self-irony?
Oh man, he’s definitely aware of how insecure he really is and all the self doubt that he’d went through and he HATES IT, he won’t acknowledge it or ever talk about it with the other androids, he intentionally makes himself seem like he’s superior to the others
42. What does your character want most? What do they need really badly, compulsively? What are they willing to do, to sacrifice, to obtain?
acceptance, closure, to feel like he’s needed, power, satisfaction, freedom
43. Does your character have any secrets? If so, are they holding them back?
his name and his upbringing, also his family, he doesn’t want anyone of the androids, aside from 7, finding out about his personal life
44. How badly do they want to obtain their life objectives? How do they pursue them?
he’s pretty damn stubborn, honestly he won’t stop until it’s done, given if he actually tries doing it first, the man is also pretty lazy while being persistent at the same time
45. Is your character pragmatic? Think first? Responsible? All action? A visionary? Passionate? Quixotic?
he definitely thinks before he attacks, he knows better than to rush in and get himself hurt over something he could have avoided
46. Is your character tall? Short? What about size? Weight? Posture? How do they feel about their physical body?
regular 13 is??? 6′6″??? he’s fucking huge, he’s got a tiiiiny tiny chub belly, but man he’s got swole arms and thick legs, he does hunch over a lot tho bc he’s just…tired and wants to rest. but lmao he used to be really self conscious about how short and scrawny he used to be?? now he’s fucking tall and ripped as fuck, so he’s pretty happy about how he looks, wouldn’t change a thing
47. Do they want to project an image of a younger, older, more important person? Does they want to be visible or invisible?
he’s gonna be loud, annoying, excessive, and a show off bc dammit ppl y’all better look at me and y’all are gonna like it, he loves n craves attention lmao
48. How are your character’s gestures? Vigorous? Weak? Controlled? Compulsive? Energetic? Sluggish?
sleazy and just, smug generally, he’s pretty condescending to people like….99% of the time lmao he likes to act like he’s better than people but it’s not worth his time outright expressing it, that’s his body language
49. What about voice? Pitch? Strength? Tempo and rhythm of speech? Pronunciation? Accent?
HOWDY YALL I’M ANDROID 13 LOOKIT MY TRUCKER HAT– nah but like??? my portrayal is kind of, a mix between canon 13 and tfs 13?? im crying so much, my hc voice for him is tfs’s voice for 13 i wanna die
50. What are the prevailing facial expressions? Sour? Cheerful? Dominating?
S M U G, he fuckin smiles a lot at people, even if it’s genuine, most of the time it’s the ‘i fuckin told u so’ or the ‘is that right?’ or even the ‘suuuuure u did’ kinda smile, the kind of smile u wanna slap off his face
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