#they just are also the ones who logically Would bonk him (and Phil) to take the world off their shoulders for a bit
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GOD. REAL.
Bad Dad Phil bullshit has made me extremely defensive of qPhil too, you're not alone.
I wish I could find my post where I've talked about this kinda thing before. When we saw Phil's whole "you have to be the strongest and protect everyone" teachings taking a toll on Chayanne, that wasn't anything to do with him lacking emotional intelligence or whatever the fuck. He's not negligent or anything at all! He's literally the opposite.
He was teaching Chayanne to be like him, which is a good thing! The only issue is that this idiot bird man doesn't know how to be easier on himself (for a plethora of reasons that I love delving into. Phil is really good at making complex characters even if not intentionally). And he doesn't recognize that as an issue bc he's just always been like that. He cares about the well-being of the people he loves to such an extreme that he pushes his own limits. He's not unaware he's doing that, it's a choice. He does it because he cares. And he's taught Chayanne to do the same, because a hero and a warrior like Chayanne wants to be (and is) always puts others before themselves.
But that's what I love about Phil and Chayanne parallels! We don't see it so often with Phil and Missa bc they're rarely on at the same time, but Missa can get Phil to chill out. Case in point: Mexican Independence Day or the Prison Event. And in the same way, Tallulah can get Chayanne to chill out. That's not to say they're caretakers, obviously. That's another yikes interpretation I see a lot. But the fact that the people Phil and Chayanne love most are the ones who can get them to take it easy and feel a little lighter despite all the pressure they put on their own shoulders. OUGH.
Phil isn't negligent or emotionally dense or whatever. Not in general and especially not towards Chayanne. Phil cares so deeply and extensively for the people that are important to him that he'll sacrifice whatever he reasonably can for them. And he's taught Chayanne to do the same. The toll that was taking on them both when things were especially grim on the island isn't a sign Phil's a bad parent. Shit was fucked up, of course they were stressed and struggling!!!
NGL the whole 'Chayanne is a Glass Child who needs Missa because Phil doesn't realize things' irrationally upsets me
It's almost always worded as if qPhil neglects his son just because he doesn't get emotional context clues (which, gross. Side eyeing you immediately if you put it like that). Which he DOESN'T. Are we not watching the same thing? Are we not all seeing just how precious Chayanne is to qPhil? Just because he doesn't do emotion talks unless it's right in front of his face doesn't mean he doesn't care
Chayanne doesn't need qMissa because qPhil 'doesn't get him' or 'prioritizes Lullah'. Chayanne needs qMissa because he misses his papa, just as much as qPhil and Lullah do
Maybe I'm just oversensitive because of all the Bad Dad Phil things that happened during the DSMP, but it just feels like it's falling down a similar line
#i hope I'm not completely misunderstanding you op bc i agree with what you've said#there's the bad dad Phil people but there's also the Phil is flawless people and both of them are wrong#which is what I'm getting at here#Phil very much has flaws. he may not view them as such but they are. but they don't make him a bad parent#and the stress it all puts on Chayanne bc he's been taught these things doesn't make him fragile#it just means both of them need to be bonked to take a little extra care of themselves sometimes bc they're always putting others first#and that's not Missa or Tallulah's job or only purpose or smth. that's not why Chayanne needs either of them#its like you said. he just needs them. bc he loves and misses them#they just are also the ones who logically Would bonk him (and Phil) to take the world off their shoulders for a bit#also a lot of people who don't get this are tubblings. which is a whole can of worms. but I've been in the trenches........... ive s e e n.#in other words yeah no you and those idiots are not watching the same stream 😭#I've seen them completely misunderstand and bad faith interpret their own streamer too 💀#but i digress
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Tommy thinking Sam Nook and Sam are two different people would lead to such funny senarios.
Especially if you apply this logic to everyone.
what if mexican dream and quackity are the same people and that was just him making fun of dream and making tommy laugh and tommy genuinely thinks dream killed mexican dream and that hes a different person
and when ranboo pretended to be killed by clarencio
he just doesnt realise
he thinks girl dream is someone else too
tubbo genuinely has a bunch of personalities and so he thinks theyre all different people (and also he doesnt realise theyre the same people a lot)
sam, in his normal voice: tommy do you have the- tommy, crying: what happened to sam nook?
sam proceeds to live as sam nook around tommy because he once tried to tell tommy sam nook isnt real and he started sobbing and so sam cant
sapnap, approaching sam on the site: hey sam can you do this for me? sam: su- tommy, running up: SAAAAAAM!? sam, in the sam nook voice: hello tommy! sapnap: wtf??? tommy: this is sam nook! :D have you met him? sapnap: what? thats just s- sam: shakes his head, behind tommy where he cant see sapnap: uhhhhh sam: takes out sword sapnap: h-hi sam nook! tommy: :D
sam is not the only person this happened to.
tommy: technoblade???? techno, sneaking into l'manberg: uhhh techno, in a highpitched voice: no this is Clarencio tommy: the llama? techno, in high pitched voice: no the pig tommy: hmmm techno: sweats tommy: smiles brightly ok!!!! techno, under his breath: that worked??? tommy: wanna hang out with me? techno, in high piteched voice: i really need to go tommy: buttttttt :(
technoblade proceeds to have to pretend to be clarencio the pig and hang out with tommy all afternoon
phil, coming to check on techno: techno? techno, in a frilly pink dress, in a high pitched voice: hi tommy: phil!!!! have you met clarencio??? but not the llama!!! clarencio the pig!!! phil, holding back a laugh: is that so?
(defenitly happened before he got exiled, i refuse to change my mind)
everytime techno is caught he says hes clarencio (the pig) and tommy vouches for him each time and no one is able to bring themselves to tell him that clarencio (the pig) doesnt exist
sam nook, :handshake: clarencio the pic, :handshake: mexican dream, (not girl dream) not being able to tell tommy their not real bc hed cry
IMAGINE IF TOMMY WAS GIVEN THE JOB OF LIKE BEING THE BORDER PEOPLE WHILE HE WAS WILBURS VICE BEFORE THE ELECTION AND PEOPLE WOULD JUST FAKE IDENTIES AND TOMMY WOULD JUST BELIVE EVERYONE
quackity: i demand to be allowed to join l'manberg! wilbur: ur american quackity: i shpould still be allowed! wilbur: just say your not, thats what everyone does quackity: what wilbur: just make a fake identity?? quackity: youre... the president???? wilbur: yeah and?? quackity: shouldnt you not be be endorsing that??? wilbur: i made tommy the border person. you think i care? quackity: sksksks quackity: still bad tho
the only one tommy never believes is dream, no matter what, he can just tell when someone is dream, like ya know those police dogs? the only reason he didnt realise girl dream was because girl dream is girl dream he thought it was just a dream thing
TOMMY THINKS BAD AND MONOCHROME BAD ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE
monochrome bad: tommy tommy: whomst? bad: oh uh recolourfies tommy, screaming: WHAT THE FUCK
tommy doesnt have object permanence but for people
techno, while tommy is staying with him: leaves room tommy, crying: I had a big brother once, i dont remember him tho
phil leaves them and (while stabbing wilbur) tommy just doesnt realize its him until techno says "dad?"
quackity works at wendys and tommy goes there everyday but doesnt realise its quackity
tommy went there since the war ended
and at the time didnt realise tommy cant tell and so when he and tommy started a mafia and became friends he thought tommy knew who he was and tommy once suggested going to dennys and quackity is like 'oh my god' and tommy is like my friend works there!!! and then they go to the one quackity works at and quackity is like 'haha funny' and then tommy asks around and then turns to quackity sadly like "my friend isnt here today D:" and then quackity is like o h
tommy, towards sam, in sams house: sam!!!!!! sam, who was sleeping, in his normal voice: w-what? tommy: sam!!! :D sam: hey tommy yawns whyd you wake me up? tommy: sorry but i really needed to ask you a question!!! sam: did you want to ask me where sam nook is again? tommy: welll.. that too but!!! you should meet sam nook!!!! sam: what tommy: please please please sam: no go back what did you ask? tommy: you need to meet sam nook! i think you'd be friends!!! :D sam, internally: shit sam: uhhh i dont really think i should- tommy: pleaasee uses puppy eyes sam: sure sam, internally: why did i say yes????
sam then has to pretend to be sam and sam nook at the same time
tommy: you're gonna love sam nook sam!!!! sam: uhuh tommy: where is he? :( sam: uh maybe hes behind you tommy: turns around to look sam: runs to other side of tommy sam, in sam nook voice: hello tommy!!! tommy: sam nook! have you met sam??? hes right here!!! gestures to sam who has to run behind him again tommy: sam say hi!!! sam, panting, in normal voice: hi tommy: whyre you all out of breath and shit???
this,,, just continues for a while
quackity, watching this exchange, driunking juice: sucks to suck sam: you'd do the same quackity: no. mexican dream is dead lol tommy, only hearing the last part: cries i miss mexican dream quackity, feeling sad: uh- we can revive him maybe? tommy: wipes tears YEAH! sam, whispers to quackity: told you so quackity, hisses to sam : shut up
quackity then has to pretend to revive himself while running around also he has to steal another one of dreams masks
honestly in this au everyone would hear about what happened during exile and stab dream (while pretending to be other people because ig in this au tommy still thinks dream was once his friend and yeh)
tommy, after crying infront of sam nook and telling him what dream did to him: so.. sniffs do you have any more quests for me to do? sam nook: i have one more quest tommy, cheering up: what is it!! sam nook: for myself tommy, confused: what is it? sam nook, taking out a glock: homocide
insanebur: you want to know why no one listens to you tommy? tommy, pouting, on the verge of tears: What? insanebur, unable to finish, clutching his heart: your too cute
this is just au where tommy is baby huh
wilbur isnt mad schlatt exiled him- hes mad he exiled tommy
schlatt and dream are the only ones not affected by tommys baby vibes and thats their downfall
tommy just has to call everyone a nickname, once, and everyone is melted
niki and jack: tommy is the fault of all our probelms we should kill him puffy: he. bonk is bonk baby bonk niki and jack: look over at tommy tommy, with sam in the distance: cries to sam because he cant find sam nook niki and jack: okay... maybe we should be less... violent...
Sam rlly just went
sam: looks at tommyinnit sam: nothing bad will ever happen to this child ever again
huh?
I’ve named this au, au where hes baby ur honour
tommy: i had zero parents (who care) tommy, gestures to puffy and sam: NOW I HAVE TWOOOOOOO
insanebur: god i fucking hate everyone tommy: even me? insanebur: except you tommy
sam: I AM THE TOMMY GAURDIAN! GAURDIAN OF THE TOMMY! sam @ anyone who wants to hurt him: FUCK OFFF
tommy canoanically understands the animal crossing language
ranboo: i can speak enderman! tommy: well i can speak creeper
whenever tommy gets overwhelemed around sam he burys himself he asks sam to cover for him in creeper
okay thats enough of that
#dream smp#tommyinnit#awesamdude#mexican dream#captain puffy#sam and puffy are the only ones who get parental rights#hes baby your honour
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