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How are students not getting automatic Fs for using AI to do assignments? Don’t schools and colleges put the fear of God into students for academic dishonesty and plagiarism anymore?
from what i understand from talking to a lot of teachers it's a lot of things.
for one, i like to think i'm someone who can typically identify ai writing and i still get confused a lot. like i feel like you need to have a sense of what it looks like, and some older teachers/professors don’t necessarily have the instinct for telling it apart on sight. also it's harder to do when you don’t have a sense of how the person writes when you know for sure it's them writing. ai detectors are dogshit and not reliable and no one wants to call someone on a false positive. and now there are ais to get around ai detectors and such. and there are ways around lots of things like checking version history of the doc (copy in the ai response sentence by sentence) and handwritten homework (copy the ai response onto paper).
for another, honestly i feel like a lot of public school teachers and college profs simply?? aren't paid enough to be examining every assignment insanely thoroughly. like sometimes it's hard to tell something's ai unless it's got something blatantly false or a made up quote or source in it, and it's one thing when the whole class has been reading gatsby and the professor teaches gatsby every year and can spot a fake quote, and it's another when someone's pulling from an academic paper that the prof probably hasn't read. like lowk if i were a professor or a public school teacher i don’t know if im paid enough to go clicking on all the links and cross referencing all the sources of every paper for every student in my class. also i know some colleges have undergrad or grad TAs doing all the grading and those might be prone to being lazy about checking/letting shit slide.
also i think it can be hard to prove for sure someone used ai and if the student decides to argue (or god forbid the fucking parents) then it's a Whole Thing (that you are also probably not paid enough to deal with).
but like honestly, if you want the philosophical answer, people have been cheating in one way or another for ages. we went from paying someone to write your essays for you to getting a computer to do it for free in five seconds. also i think modern day students are so slammed with balancing everything else in their lives that they are more prone to taking shortcuts about their academics. my university has a pretty intense hustle culture and based on what i hear from students that's a lot of why kids who are genuinely pretty motivated hard workers might resort to ai on assignments.
of course, that's not a justification and i'm strongly against the use of generative ai, academic or otherwise. but that's my sense of what's going on and why this has become such a prevalent issue/why kids aren't always getting caught/punished.
@rosalind-of-arden i don’t know if you have thoughts too?
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On “just google it” mentality
Looking over data has been made easier by search engines in the past few years and with it came the phrase “Just google it.” but I fell that this phrase is being misused by people as of late and I feel that the misuse of this phrase is evident to those who who take technological education, internet access and the opportunity of English mastery for granted.
Having a giant database is going to help us gain knowledge of matters easily but there lies the problem of knowing how to use it. You’d think, ooohh everyone knows how to use a computer and surf through the web but that is actually false. There are still plenty of places where internet and technological access is terrible. So to say, having internet access and the corresponding digital literacy not only to comprehend its use but also to filter and authenticate the items that appear in your search is a learned skill and is a privilege to those of us who have had enough internet access to realize these unspoken rules.
This is the percentage of those with internet access based on the total population in 2017. I cannot speak much for other countries but I can for the Philippines. There are over 100 Million Filipinos and in 2017, that means there are 48 Million Filipinos without internet access. I heard that it has improved as of late and the percentage has risen up to 60.1%. That’s 2.1 Million more Filipinos who gained access in the past three years and that’s a good thing but these 2.1 Million people would have to learn to familiarize themselves with the use of it.
Access doesn’t equate to skills. Perhaps, they only know popularized apps like youtube or facebook or instagram. Knowing your way when surfing through the net isn’t something inborn to us. We learn it, either through schools or through surfing the net for years. And we have to understand that mocking people in the internet and making them feel guilty for being uninformed just doesn’t check out because you don’t know the technological background of this person. Were they taught to be computer literate since young? Did they only get their first smartphone? Do they have unlimited wifi access or are just phone data? Telling your classmate who has held a smartphone the moment it got released in the market to just google it is okay. Telling your thesis partner who has a laptop since forever and obviously has had the opportunities to familiarize with the internet to just google it isn’t a problem. But you can’t analyze someone’s computer and internet literacy as easily here. Not everyone is given the opportunity and the resources to learn about this and maximize its use and I hope that when you meet an uninformed person but are in a position that doesn’t allow you to send your online sources directly, you can tell them about looking over it through the net without sounding like a condescending prick.
(Also, please, if you can, help boost news about the Philippine’s issue with internet and tech problems. The government wants to shift to online learning but refuse to spend for it. It will gravely affect the schooling of Filipinos that lack laptops, ipads/tablets and internet access because we are expected to have these items ourselves. This is a classist attack against the right of the Filipino poor to education. Hashtags on twitter about this are #NoStudentLeftBehind, #AcademicFreeze, and #AcademicFreezeNow.)
There is also the issue about how native English speakers and perhaps those who have gained English mastery take for granted the fact that the internet caters to us.
English dominates the language used for contents in websites. It also is the most commonly used language on the internet, currently at 25%, just around 4% above Chinese. Non-native English speakers especially those who are still mastering the language take effort to comprehend content on the internet. It’s not as simple as ~just googling it~ because you’d need to sometimes translate it or look at a dictionary for help. The internet isn’t tailor-made for us and it requires more effort to adapt to it and maximize its use. So please, the next time you meet an uninformed person, don’t be a condescending prick about it. Inform them if you want to or at the very least direct them properly on how they could inform themselves. You don’t know the digital background of the person you end up conversing with in the internet. The least you could do is not guilt them for being uninformed and lacking the necessary skills that makes informing oneself easier.
#us centrism#philippines#I'm just really tired when people expect you to know everything just because you are in the internet at the moment#like dude that's just a person writing their ramblings in a blog#they aren't writing academic papers or teaching history in schools#reprimanding people for not knowing facts that aren't general knowledge ESP WHEN THEY ARE LIKE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT YOU KNOW ANOTHER COUNTRY just#doesn't sit well with me like god if someone doesn't know that tinalak is from the Tboli people in the Philippines that doesn't mean they#hate indigenous Filipinos If they act though that the lumad killings is justified and the shutting down of lumad schools is okay then that's#a legit fucking asshole of a person#tangina I get you want more people to know about subcultures and that's fun I get so whacked when I see art with Barong tagalog or when#I see art of pre-colonial gods and goddesses#get really whacked when they mention Mariang Sinukuan#or when they use Bakunawa swallowing the moons for a storyline#But please stop treating people as less just because they know less#you don't know the circumstances of them being uninformed about it#you don't get to make them feel guilty for not knowing#mei rambles
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