#they also don’t rlly know how to differentiate between romantic and platonic feelings bc.

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This took me a Hot Second bc I’m not sure if this would be unpopular or not but tl;dr: Shipping language needs to change.

(rant under the cut. i am so sorry anon, i have Feelings™ about this that i didn’t even know i had until i typed all this out and couldn’t stop. feel free to request like 5 million ficlets of ur fav pairings from me lmao. I’m so SORRY)

So, yeah, shipping language needs to change, Especially bc shipping’s become much more nuanced for a lot of shippers and esp since i keep running into fans using Romantic/Sexual shipping tags when they mean to ship a pair familially/platonically.

And that’s not even getting into the nuance of how tumblr™️ culture demands shippers to justify their ships if it involves anything Remotely Sketch

(ex. Abuse. Some fans ship abusive ships/ships with abusive traits for a multitude of reasons. I agree it’s important not to romanticize those traits of the ship. But it’s just as important that those kinds of ships are present bc it’s an excellent opportunity for introspection and discussion both w/in fandom and outside. Ofc if the ship makes another fan uncomfy it takes 0 seconds and costs 0 dollars for them to ask someone to tag the ship name if not simply unfollow them. and vice versa for the blogger to tag and respect another fans wishes if they want to keep that follower)

But to get back into the rom/sex vs fam/plat thing. It’s one thing that I LOVE about ao3 bc they let you differentiate by using either “/“ or “&” for those respective relationships. And I rlly wish that fic authors would keep that in mind while tagging bc I’ve seen some Bad Cross-tagging happening almost all the time. I almost wish we could go a step further and maybe include “-“ to help further differentiate btwn familial & platonic relationships. Or possibly use it to indicate platonic relationships with a possibility of becoming Romantic?

I’ve got Some Ideas about all of this obvsly. Mostly bc the way I multiship HAS to be super nuanced esp btwn all of my AUs

Murder Fam vs Magic vs Titans Dark for example? All include Rose and Raven having a significant relationship in them. Murder fam is strictly familial bc they’re legally adoptive sisters. Magic fam is platonic w/ that opportunity for romantic. Titans Dark straight up has them being Very Chill Exes. Each one is a product of circumstance and the characterization in each will hopefully keep that clear. But they’d all need their own warnings & ship tags bc of that as well, so readers know what kind of relationship to expect between the two of them.And it’s a really funny thing. Wanting to simultaneously see these characters either become romantically involved or keep sibling like traits.

Which is ANOTHER thing that annoys me. When shippers try to downplay another ship by saying “they’re like siblings!” when they have absolutely no familial stake and it just becomes a catchall for ‘i don’t want to ship this and have to have an excuse to not’.

Listen, I have a sister. When push came to shove I’d absolutely be there for her, but every other moment we’ve fought like barbarians. Even now as kind of adults we’re catty as shit.

Siblings are people that you’re forced to spend more time with than anyone else on the planet. Imagine being forced 24/7 to be with someone you cant stand, and yet also who you build up a rapport with bc you literally cant get away from them anyways?

Thats not a universal experience, but its mine and its why i HATE when people use the sibling argument when it comes to a relationship where the pair gets on like two peas in a pod otherwise. The sheer animosity that siblings inherently hold for one another is Unparalleled, and how it changes on a dime as soon as something Bad Actually Happens? Ugh, SIBLINGS.

but yeah, ship language & how we label our ships. that needs to go, and i know it seems to have evolved even over the past 7-ish years I’ve been in fandoms but like…. really hoping it continues to do so. i mean considering that OTP/BROTP even has kind of gone by the wayside (thank goodness bc i really fuckin hate those terms now that I’m a multishipper and aint got time for that nonsense but thats a WHOLE OTHER RANT) I’m sure fandom language will only continue to change as fandom continues to evolve.

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for the pride themed ask! the band members?

ooh ty !!

jack drummerboy:

Headcanon for their sexuality

bisexual babey !

Have they came out? If so, how

oh the JOURNEY he went through before coming out.. i won't get into it (:3c) but he doesn't even come out actually. david knew bc he's the first person jack went to when he was having feelings and starting to Realise, so he helped him through it. the rest of the band kinda just knew bc gay people recognise gay people (and also the way jack is with david? not even subtle anymore)

How their friends/family took their coming out

jack has vowed to Never come out to his parents bc if all communication ceases between them it's not gonna be bc of that. he told his brother the summer after high school, idk the moment just felt right and he was feeling brave enough so he went for it, and his brother took it very well, hugged him and all. bc he could see how much this meant to jack, even tho he could kinda tell since they were kids, but he won't tell him that

the band took it well ofc ! like i said they kinda knew already, but the moment jack mentioned he's bi they all went :0 in unison

Do they go to Pride/With whom?

i don't think he goes to pride ! not every year at least. he doesn't rlly like the crowds, but he WILL show his pride the entire month

one year tho david managed to drag him to a pride parade and he LOVED it ! still not a fan of the crowds but the entire experience was cathartic for him

Do they show their colors? (Flag-wise)

david got him a scarf with the bi colours for his birthday the year he first came out and that's one of the only pride "merch" he has. still it took him a long time to actually wear it bc what if someone recognises it? WHAT if someone in this small town in ohio can piece together the meaning behind these three pretty colours?? jack you need to RELAX

david:

Headcanon for their sexuality

gay 😌

Have they came out? If so, how

he came out the moment he realised he's gay, which was a couple years before high school (americans help me out here what grade is this) his gay awakening was james marsden in hairspray (2007)

How their friends/family took their coming out

his family was chill, they said all the right things and all that. his parents grew up outside of the midwest in the 60's so they were all "love who you want 🥰🥰" meanwhile his sister was like "so what we all love boys 🙄✋" but she was also 8 years old so

it's one of the first things the band knew about him actually, he never tried to hide it. some of them didn't like it since this is ohio after all, but brad made it very clear that if anyone has a problem or gives any problem to david, they are out of the band (this extends to anyone who comes out down the line)

jack kinda.. avoided it the first few months since they met. internalised homophobia and all you know how it is. but after a while he's willing to slash the tires of anyone who looks at david the wrong way

Do they go to Pride/With whom?

he does!! he and nick go every couple of years, alternating between each of their cities. he doesn't go all out like nick does, but he's just as enthusiastic, wearing his flag like a cape every time

Do they show their colors? (Flag-wise)

he's got a rainbow bass strap ! also a rainbow scarf to match jack's bi scarf :]

dom:

Headcanon for their sexuality

i go back and forth with him tbh.. but i'll go with bi for now :]

Have they came out? If so, how

i don't think he ever formally comes out. first of all, he and his family have moved so much when he was a kid to early teens, so he never rlly had long term friends to even talk about these things. but he has had crushes on nearly everyone he meets.. to the point where he can't differentiate between platonic feelings and romantic feelings

How their friends/family took their coming out

his family's okay with it. not super happy, but they try to be supportive. they kinda forget about it, which isn't the best, but dom has learned to be okay with that.

out of the band, he came out to jack first, funnily enough. he saw his bi scarf and went "hey me too! :]" which caused jack to Freak out and avoid everyone for a week.

everyone else took it well, bc at that point about half of the band is Not straight or cis so to add one more to that? hell yeah :^)

Do they go to Pride/With whom?

he does! not every year bc he always has something else to do, but he tries to make time for it! he meets up with nick and david (sometimes jack) in whatever city and they go together :] and he Has written corny tunes about pride and shares it with them on the way there

Do they show their colors? (Flag-wise)

hmmm i don't think so ! mainly bc i don't see him sticking to One identity long enough to wear the colours. he does have a he/him pin on his jacket and a pride stickers on his guitar tho

nick:

Headcanon for their sexuality

gay, and maybe not totally a boy? who knows :3c

Have they came out? If so, how

the only person he counts as formally coming out to was his mother, bc they're super close and they talk about Everything so

How their friends/family took their coming out

his mother was supportive and helps him whenever he has a crisis of some sort. she gets him his first pride flag :] she also has one of those shirts that say "i love my gay son" or smth SLDJKJ

it took him a while to come out to the band, mainly bc he's had some trouble in his last school, so when he transferred he decided to keep it quiet. also he thought jack was homophobic so sjdhsdk

BUT when he did come out, everyone took it rlly well and that helped him come out of his shell hehe

Do they go to Pride/With whom?

YES HE DOES! he loves it, he looks forward to it every year, it also helps that it's his birth month so he's extra annoying (affectionate) about it

like i said, he goes all out, rainbow everything! he also tries to get involved as much as he can through volunteering, organising with local lgbt centres, etc etc

he tries to get the other guys in too, but he understands their apprehension, being small town gays and such. but still he spreads the pride every year :]

Do they show their colors? (Flag-wise)

yeah!! he's got pride pins and stickers (tho he only uses them once he's out of high school) and several tacky rainbow socks :^)