#theres nothing to fight for--no one who faught for me. i only have myself. and choosing myself is to choose nothing.

[lateseptemberdawn]

watching 'when life gives you tangerines' the way God intended (resenting my fate feeling a deep ache in my heart looking at these characters having the kind of love/relationship/family that i dreamed of--was even convinced i had at some point in my childhood (which was never true) and crying at every episode and still somehow feeling fulfilled in such a tragic way i want to laugh and laugh and laugh until i cry/die)

[bytemycupcakes]

I hope to not come off as rude. I really don't. It's just, I find it really uncomfortable seeing that you ship Charlie with the person who in your headcanon choked her. Like, you came up with that. It doesn't matter if he's trying everything in his power to make up for it. That's not right. He laid his hands on her. Charlie moved on. She has Vaggie now. And yet you still ship them? Not to mention I think the relationship is very forced if both Lucifer and Mavriks father want it to happen.

Okay I figured this was gonna come up eventually, and dw youre not bein rude at all.

Yeah, anon ya got every right to be uncomfy with it, and Im not gonna say ya gotta put up with me doin what Im doin

However, I am still gonna defend myself here.

1. Charlie and Mavriks relationship was perfectly healthy before he attacked her. His attack (on her specifically) was incredibly out of character.

2. Said attack resulted from Charlie asking him to essentially bottle up his anger. Yes, Mavrik faught often and had some minor anger issues. Charlie asked him to stop fighting to the best of his ability, and him being a dumb teenager bottled his anger as a result. Thus, when he finally let it out, it was months of pent up rage. He didnt realise he was attacking her until it was to late.

3. Yeah Lucifer really wants them to be together, but that really has nothing to do with their relationship. Other than him seeing theres a problem (in his eyes), and aiming to fix it. He choses bad meathods, sure, but Mavrik calls him out on every single one. Mavrik hates what Lucifers trying to do, and even tries to stop it. He’s content in letting Charlie live her life. (As for Mavriks parents: They definitely thought it was cute before and while they were together, after they break up they shrug it off. Lucifer is really the only parent that cares, along with the only one who really knows why they split up)

3.5: The only way Lucifer is really involved is that he forces them to talk, like they really needed to. Neither of them are happy about it at first.

4. Charlies forgiveness doesnt happen over night. Its well into the hotels run-time. (So: Years after highschool) She’s had time to think about it all, and see that what he did was practically nothing compared to the sins the hotel members have done. Even after her initial forgiveness, it takes a bit for them to really get close again. Charlie isn’t just “hell yeah lets be super close again”, shes taking it slow, and has decided to give him a second chance. Essentially, her breaking it off and those years before they become friends again, was Charlie taking her time to process the event. Sometimes when a friend hurts you, you gotta step away from them a bit. Yes something like this seems extreme by our standards, but this is taking place in Hell, things are different there and the reactions to such events will be skewed as a result.

4.5: Bonus to that: Alastors an antagonist who will probably hurt Charlie, Vaggie, and the project alot in canon, yet people ship that . Yes, she is happy with Vaggie. In canon. That fact hasn’t stopped anyone from shipping Charlie and Vaggie with other people

4.5.2: ACTUALLY! Part of my headcanons for this (essentially) au, are that before Charlie even talks to Mavrik again, the hotels going to shit BECAUSE of Alastor, involving multiple attempts on her life. (And no Im not just adding this now to make Mavrik look better, its been in my head for awhile, just couldnt think of a way to mention it)

5. Charlie and Mavrik quite literally grew up together and, before that moment in highschool, dont have a proper memory of the other not being around in some way. It felt weird for both of them to not have who was essentially their closest friend around. Especially when they would still be around the others family.

6. People grow and change. Especially in the late teens and early 20s. Through those years they were split up, Mavrik learned to properly control himself, and Charlie saw how bad people really can be. When Lucifer locks them in that room (which they both chew him out on), they actually talk about what happened, why it happened in the first place, and Mavrik is still constantly apologizing.

7. Most of the shipping for these two that’ll actually be them in a real relationship will probably stay in the Celine universe, where certain hc events are different. I havent decided if them splitting up because of the attack stays or not. Everything else so far is really just them rebuilding their friendship, and maybe a few flings.

8. Eventually my headcanons wont mean anything, cause I really doubt they’re gonna be accurate to canon. In all honestly, I’m betting They’re still fairly close and just drifted apart. I just wanted something extra dramatic to split them up- (thus the wording of the attack itself is exagerated for tension) And ended up getting really attached and started shipping it. Honestly I was scared to even start posting about it because of my hc post.

TL;DR: There’s alotta development between these two between the attack itself and them even willing to talk to eachother. I didnt just shove them together immediately after something like that, because that’d be fucking stupid.