#there's no suspension of disbelief if you don't just accept whatever the narrative tells you
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anchoredgalaxy · 5 months ago
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i do hate how much acotar discourse revolves around trying to pretend the story isn't plotted like garbage. the entire second book of this series is a giant retcon and characters are constantly changed on the fly. anytime someone tries to defend this series as if the characters are real people capable of making decisions and as if the plotting is at all organic i just can't take that seriously.
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metaforth · 1 year ago
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I was talking to artofavacado yesterday about why fantasy feels so real when we came to sort of a realization.
Fantasy has an advantage over documentaries and true stories. You go into those knowing you're reading about something that happened often before you were born. You can feel disconnected from history, especially if you're not someone who feels the lingering effects of whatever history you're a learning about. It's easy to see it like it's over and done with. Fantasy shows you events as they happen, you can easily feel like you're actually there experiencing whatever unfolds, and that's why it can feel so real. This is especially true of fantasy worlds that are well written and feel just as alive as our own.
Though we were talking mostly about fantasy I feel this applies more broadly to fiction as a whole. The disconnect people often feel towards history is replaced when engaging with fiction by a willingness to accept what you're experiencing as reality, even if only briefly. A world that carefully maintains your suspension of disbelief can make this effect all the more potent.
There's tons of potential for it to feel even more real to you than documentaries and other non-fictional media can (something I feel only a handful of stories truly achieve). It reminded me why I love writing so much in the first place, it's an essential element of any sort of media that has a message to send or a story to tell. Even a single painting problem has a storied narrative behind it, even if that narrative only truly resides in the artist's own mind. It's literature that often contributes the most to reshaping society and social norms. I bet it'll be hard for many to name more than 3 iconic movies that aren't to some extent based on a novel or comic book.
These fictional worlds can lay bare grim realities within worlds that feel so real, with characters you're come to know and love deeply. It can leave a profound impact on your like no other art form can. When I found myself falling down a right wing rabbit hole it wasn't breadtube or some lectures that pulled me out, it was literature. The works of John Flanagan on the Rangers Apprentice and Jeff Smith in Bone, or the Man of Action team on Ben 10, or the countless writers who've worked on DC and Marvel comics shaped the mind that would find its way back on the right track when it was headed. All these works and many many many, many I probably don't even remember exist but still subconsciously add to my imagination in ways I can't even know have done more to shape me into who I am now than anything else. Who I am and the creative work I do is a collage of all these experiences and the unique flavor of the life I've lived with these works alongside me.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
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katiecomma · 3 years ago
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Book Review - One Last Stop
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I would like to start this review by saying this: these words are entirely my opinion. This is a review of a piece of writing that is based on my opinions and experiences and feelings. That being said, if this book made you feel represented, if you related to the characters, if you loved this book my opinions do not invalidate any of that. We are looking at this from different minds and different perspectives and different life experiences. Which is one of the most wonderful things about art: the interpretation. So, you are still represented and relatable and loved no matter how I feel or what I have to say.
On to the review. I'm going to put it below the cut, because it is CHOCK FULL of spoilers. So if you don't want to be spoiled do not continue.
I will also say, this is not a super positive review. I didn't love this book. I didn't even really like it very much.
I'm going to divide this into talking points.
1. The New York Trope
I hate hate HATE the New York Trope. Again, this is a personal thing that's specific to me. It's not to say it's a bad trope, it's just one that I'm SO SO SOOOOO tired of. I hate the idea of someone who could never find a place ANYWHERE else no matter where they've tried to go, making their way to New York where they believe they will finally belong. And then magically, even though they're a loser or an outcast or whatever... they do! They awkwardly stumble into the perfect little found family of weird people that so perfectly suits them it's like where they were made to be. I hate it. Again, this is personal. And it may just be lingering bitterness, but I moved from a small town to the big city and found it almost IMPOSSIBLE to make friends. Those cool people that you wish you were friends with, already have their own groups of friends and they don't often just adopt random new people that they don't really know and make them "part of the family." Yes, I know... I'm bitter. It's fine. See? This is the personal experience swaying my opinions that I was talking about. In addition to having that personal opinion of the trope, I'm just kind of tired of it. I feel like the New York Trope has been very overdone.
2. Forced Trans Rep
I was excited for the trans rep in this book. Afterall, it starts at the very beginning of the very first chapter when August answers a roommate ad that states: "Must be queer & trans friendly." I was like: awesome! I am so on board for this! LET'S GO!
I feel the need to break here to say that I love Niko. He is amazing. And I love his character.
Ok... so, the ad specifically states trans friendly. It breaks trans out from queer, which suggests that someone within the apartment is trans. We meet the three roommates: Niko, Myla and Wes... and nobody mentions the trans thing again. Which is awesome. I'm still on board this rep train. We are led to believe one of the roommates is trans. And we don't need to know which one. Why do we need to know? It doesn't matter. The representation is there, in my opinion.
And then the awkward scene I didn't like. There are baby/kids pictures of all the roommates all over the fridge. August recognizes everyone except a little girl who only looks a little familiar, wearing a princess dress at Disneyland and making a grumpy face. August asks who it is. Niko, very casually goes: "Oh, that's me." At which point August has some internal dialogue that felt very much to me like: Ok, I thought there was something off about him, he's not really a normal guy. That's a paraphrase... but that was the vibe I got. I sent it to a few other people who confirmed that I'm not crazy, it vibes that way. So... in addition to this scene feeling forced to "out" the trans person in the apartment (which felt SOOO unnecessary since the ad let us know there was a trans person in residence), August's reaction came across as accepting, but not feeling like Niko was a normal guy. Which... I really didn't like. It made me not like August at ALL, who is the main character.
The whole thing just felt really unnecessary to me. Especially when there's a scene later on that does it better! There's a scene later where August is asking Niko about his psychic abilities and she goes: when did you know?... and Niko replies: "That I was trans?"... and August waves it off and goes: "No, that you were psychic." That in my opinion would have been a way better reveal moment. It doesn't seem forced, and August waves it off like it's no big deal.
I may be crazy... but that drove me a little nuts. And really made me dislike August. I understand it's important to point out that everyone could have a little bias buried in them still, and it's important to overcome that... but I really didn't need anything to make me dislike August more... which leads into my next point.
3. August Is An Asshole
Yes, I understand there are assholes in the world.
Yes, I understand that they are redeemable.
But I did not like August for most of this book.
I understand that part of it is supposed to be her defensiveness... and her want to be a loner.
But August is an unapologetic asshole and says dickhead things to the people who are trying to help her or care about her. And I just didn't like that.
Again, I understand she's had a shitty life... but there just wasn't a lot in this book to redeem August for me and make me like her. I spent a lot of the book being like: I hope this nice girl doesn't fall for her because she's a bit of a dickhead.
4. August's Self Hate
In addition to being a bit of a dick... August has so much self-hate I found this book hard to read at times. Every time there is a description of her doing ANYTHING it is tinged with self-hatred to the point that the book was frustrating to read. There is a scene where she's been out in the rain and she's wearing sneakers. She gets on the train and her "sneakers squelched unattractively." So even when things are out of her control she projects self-hate onto them. And I HATED IT SO MUCH. It was infuriating. Even after Jane starts to like her and tells her that she's attractive and that her body is attractive the narrative is still very much "why does she like me though?"
I've had this conversation/rant with a few other people... and I understand that self-hate is very engrained in our society. I understand that girls, especially chubby girls, have this on their mind a lot of the time. One friend said that it would be unrealistic to have a book where the chubby girl doesn't hate herself, the suspension of disbelief of that would not be possible. (I feel I should point out this friend is chubby also).
But as a fat girl I need to say: I'M FUCKING TIRED OF THIS. I HATE IT SO MUCH. I want a main character like Lizzo, walking around with her skin on display and being confidant. I know that's a leap, honestly, but I would even go for someone acknowledging their body but not in a hateful way. Or having a little bit of a confidence issue but nothing like what was in this book. August hates herself so much that honestly... I was kind of mad about it.
One of the best fictional fat girls of all time is Suki from Gilmore Girls. You know why I loved her? Growing up and now? Because her weight is NEVER brought up. It's never the point of any of her jokes. It's never suggested she should lose weight. She never has any plotlines around dieting for her wedding or trying to fit into an old dress. Her weight is NEVER AN ISSUE. THIS IS WHAT I WANT IN FAT GIRL REP!!!!
Sorry... this point in particular is very close to home for me. As someone who's recently found her confidence it was very hard for me to read an entire book where everyone around the chubby girl is being nice to her but she's rude to them and self hating to herself.
Do girls like this exist? Of course! I was one of these girls! But it's frustrating to read sometimes.
5. Jane's Promiscuity
I found this was a sloppy way of getting them to kiss. And I'm not a HUGE fan of the slut and virgin trope. I don't mind someone having experience. But it seemed like Jane slept with half the women in the US before she was 24. And the only reason there was for her to have SO many partners was for August to kiss her more.
Quick explanation if you haven't read the book: Jane starts getting her memories back via sensory experiences. So they decide she'll remember her partners better if August kisses her to help her remember kissing other girls.
So in the end it just felt like a REALLY lame excuse for them to kiss.
At this point, I feel you being like: did you like ANYTHING about the book at all?
I did!
6. Wes and Isiah and Maya and Niko
I loved pretty much every character BUT August.
Wes and Isiah's love story was much more interesting to me than August and Jane's. Wes had the self-hate going on too... but Wes' was related to being a disappointment to everyone in his past and not feeling like he could be anything else. And he didn't want to burden Isiah with a disappointment. But they were cute as HELL and I loved the development of their relationship.
Maya and Niko are just perfect, and wacky and wonderful and were adorable from the start.
7. Jane
I loved Jane's character (other than the previously mentioned promiscuity). She was fun and happy-go-lucky and had an interesting problem and an interesting history (again, aside from the promiscuity).
8. Queer History
It was only touched on briefly in the book, but I loved the idea that Jane was front and centre for a lot of events in queer history. I liked what it brought up. I liked the way it made August want to learn more about her community. I honestly wish there had been a little more. Especially since Jane lived through it all.
I loved loved LOVED Red White and Royal Blue.
One of the things I loved most about that book was the way she broke down walls and stereotypes. The way that Pez is so effeminate, but only shows interest in women throughout the book, and NEVER labels himself. Having queer rep throughout politics. Having a divorced woman as president. There was so much representation in that book, but it didn't feel forced the way it did in this one. One Last Stop seemed very centred around these tropes and stereotypes... and that drove me a little crazy. I expected more from Casey McQuiston after reading Red White and Royal Blue.
In conclusion. I will not be keeping this book. I will not be rereading it. I did not care for it much at all.
Ok. Rant over.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN: if you disagree with me. If you felt something because of this book. If this book spoke to you and made you feel seen and represented. None of my bullshit opinion changes that. FEEL THOSE THINGS! Take the art that means something to you and keep it close.
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