#there’s delulu and there’s context clues

[doublel27]

I’m not going to use the word stan (as I’m old enough to hold the negative origin of the term) but as another person who enjoys teasing apart the lines between promotional activities and personal activities, it’s fairly well considered they’re together but no one talks about it.

I mean, the thing about earthmix is they don’t actively engage in wild levels of independent “fanservice” while still a lot of stuff they do post jointly are ads like the traveloka ind right now. (I’m personally of the opinion that celebrities know that everything they share is for an audience, and therefore whether they’re in a real couple or a fake couple anything not shared to close friends only or on their locked private Instagram is fanservice aka a service for the fans. But that leads me to want to talk about American actors and fanservice but that’s a separate post.)

Specifically post divorce era they’ve gotten even quieter on social media than they were before (and wildly more quiet since the passing of marriage equality which I find particularly curious) but there are little things like the many late night videos of Earth’s cast with Mix in Earth’s pajamas. They also, like FirstKhaotung, have a shared closet where clothing and jewelry seem to flow between them seamlessly. Though unlike FKT I’ve yet to see them pack one suitcase for a trip. They also tell on themselves about how much they’re together. A few months ago, Earth pulled a whole “it’s been a long time since we’ve been together like this” at some event and Mix immediately shot back they see each other every day. And Earth was like “for work, it’s been a long time since we’ve been together like this for work, with the fans.”

When Mix wasn’t posting from Earth’s house earlier in the year Earth made it clear that he was spending significant time at Mix’s house in an interview (while mix was finishing his degree) saying if Mix couldn’t come to him then he goes to Mix. This week at their book fair fansign when Earth was asked which of his cats Mix most resembled, Earth wrote down one of Mix’s cats first before that was pointed out he was asked about his cats and then crossed it out and wrote one of his own. They co-plan vacations and Earth was supposed to go on Mix’s solo graduation vacation but couldn’t make it. They had originally wanted to do Europe (Scotland which is Earth’s bias) for that trip but when Earth couldn’t make it Mix switched to Japan and Korea with friends. Mix also when taking about that trip discussed how hard it was to do that trip alone as usually all international travel is coordinated by the company or by P’Earth, and how because he’d done japan with Earth it felt safer to do alone but he got lost. In relation to that, their individual friends comment and react to each of their respective posts. Mix’s P’ who is living in Korea replied to earth he needs to come with Mix next time. Earth’s friends posted on Mix’s graduation posts. Many shots of them together are captured and posted by others (like the aforementioned p’aof who posted a picture of them curled together asleep on his couch for New Years Eve 2023-24) as are references to how often they’re together. With Neo’s Mint joining the company, NeoMint went on a special EarthMix Space and Mint was like “well, I’ve already met EarthMix before. We played board games.” And as we know, Neo was perennially EMFK’s favorite Steve (I wonder what Earth tastes like. I bet he’s salty. I’ll go ask Mix and Have you forgotten I’m here are both pre-divorce era Neo as EM’s Steve) and it’s interesting that on two different vlogs, NeoMint have referenced essentially double dates with FKT and EM respectively. Joong outright refers to them as Mom and Dad.

The stuff they do post is also interesting. They were retweeting the same sets of house images a couple of months ago with in seconds of each other. They also habitually post birthday messages for friends in rapid succession, once this year accidentally wishing Rin a very early birthday. Their posts have a habit of sharing the same songs. Earth and Mix both posted for Mix’s birthday with the same song, and then Mix deleted the song from his Instagram post for his birthday but left a “great song choice, dad” comment on Earth’s. Mix’s birthday this year lead also to a 7 day spree of Earth posting various quotes about daisies and love, with regular good nights on his main IG and his broadcast. Daisies have been a symbol of his for Mix for years (at least since ATOTS) and he was making his own fan edits of himself with daisies and a picture Mix took of him surrounded with hearts. Most of Earth’s thirst trap ig posts are all taken on days he’s with Mix (including the last one in Europe) They’ve also been very quiet about what Earth’s actual gifts for Mix for birthday and graduation were this year aside from the immediate shopping spree. There was a jewelry box for graduation that Earth said had 10k baht, but Thai fans were quick to point out the box was too small for all that. His birthday message to Mix ended with the non-sequitur “Let’s discuss it again after your birthday, alright?” and Mix almost tipped out of his chair. And then when Earth walked out on stage with the largest bouquet of roses, Mix turned bright red, looked ready to die, and just stared at Earth like “Really?!” And Earth immediately burst into awkward laughter and covered his mouth, until the roses were revealed to be from Mix’s sister that Earth delivered.

Which is also an interesting point of how close Earth remains with Mix’s family. At the graduation event last week, Earth held hands and walked with both of Mix’s parents at different times. Like, if they were for real still broken up, considering how emotional Mix was during divorce era, I wouldn’t expect them to be that close now.

And then I think there’s the little cues post divorce era, which is how emotional they both still are when they talk about it. The way they both get shy when talking about their trip where they finally made up during divorce era. (And it still comes up as one of their favorite places to go two years later) There have been multiple trips to temples, but the favorites are the New Year’s Day 2024 one with Mix’s family and FKT, where Mix sits in relation to Earth as a spouse would, and a trip to the Temple of Red Thread in Hong Kong during their fan meet this year which is known for people looking for love or to solidify relationships.

They’ve also been very loudly in support of marriage equality for years, and did (together) respond in a live after the vote went through “we can get married now” before looking at each other and nodding with a “yes it’s very exciting” it’s very debatable if they were reading a comment in the live, and what we they were using…but…

It’s just if we’re going to make comparisons Mosbank and Daouroad (and BillyBabe for me personally) are close to a Ryan Reynolds/Blake Lively type of professional couple, whereas Earthmix is on a Tom Holland/Zendaya vibe for how public they want their private relationship vs their professional relationship.

But you know, judge for yourself. (I recommend checking out some of MewTul’s content and comparing it to EarthMix and judging from there. They have similar vibes) Also, be polite and don’t go yelling this stuff on Twitter or IG and in comments on lives. Again, I’m old, and I like to pretend that celebrities don’t walk among us here in the gremlin site and if they do people aren’t out here tagging them in the comments.

Hii! I hope you don’t mind me asking, but what do you mean EarthMix are probably dating? I try to keep up with all the basics of the QL rumor mill, but most of it still passes right by me, so I spend a lot of time in a confused state, honestly. I thought EarthMix were roughly on the same level as a lot of other GMMTV pairs, which is to say: fanservice-y, but probably not a thing. So would you maybe mind explaining that one a little more? 👀🙏

I woke up to three separate asks about this and it was a very sobering realization that while I thought we were all just pretending not to know EarthMix are dating, apparently that was just me??? I don’t actually follow them all that closely though, so someone else feel free to jump in with the actual evidence because I know y’all have it.

Here’s the thing about EarthMix: they were 100% dating prior to their divorce era. There’s plenty of evidence that they were living together (my favorite is here) and the way they each reacted to their “break-up” was not…platonic. Mix was posting moody poems about lost loves on his Instagram for god’s sake.

I waffle about whether they’re back together now but to me, it comes down to proximity. They try to be coy about it, but Mix posts way too many videos of Earth’s cats after midnight to not be living with him. And when actors live together, I’m inclined to believe they’re dating because no one’s going to do that for fanservice.

We know that Khaotung gifted Earth and Mix a copy of Oscar Wilde’s De Profundis—a letter he wrote to his lover from prison while he was jailed for homosexual acts—and we also know that P’Aof, a queer director, favors them. P’Jojo has talked openly on his Twitter about how, if given the choice, he will always cast queer actors because he knows how hard it is to be queer in the BL industry. I would imagine that most queer directors feel the same.

We’ve been talking a lot on my blog about how GMMTV seems to discourage any verbal acknowledgement of queerness, so whereas the other two couples I mentioned—MosBank and DaouOffroad—have been as explicit as they can about the nature of their relationship, I don’t have any evidence of that nature about EarthMix. But like I said, I don’t follow them all that closely. EarthMix stans have my full permission to hijack this post and educate me because this is not my area of expertise and the thin line between “fanservice” and “actually dating” is one of my favorite topics of discussion.

[lifblogs]

Literally stop using the words “delulu” and “delusional.” They are ableist af. Bad Batch fandom, I’m looking at you.

[sukunasdirtylaugh]

ok ok so I looked at the LEAKS and I might have a theory down below so spoilers down below. you've been warned.

okay so from what I saw, there was a part where supposedly gojo said goodbye to the gang (nanami, haibara, riko, etc...) and in the panel there is a PLANE. A PLANE. Maybe I'm overthinking things, but maybe the plane is there to symbolize a trip, a transition, and the fact that gojo says goodbye to his friends leads me to believe he really isn't dead (yet).

2. In the scene where he's cut in half, I don't know where I'm getting this from, but he should still be alive since he was cut in half, right? His head doesn't look like it suffered any external trauma (only his midsection) so I have HOPE he's still alive.

[tealvenetianmask]

I rewatched the Helluva Boss trailer today and tried something different. Instead of looking for upcoming details or clues about what might happen, I looked for a narrative. I tried to imagine what the editors were thinking as they chose clips (both visual and audio) to include, and why.

I thought that MAYBE in light of having seen two of the episodes (and weeped over them, and analyzed them into the ground) most heavily featured in the trailer, I might learn something from doing this.

My conclusion is *drumroll* that the clips were chosen to introduce problems. AND NOT TELL US ANY OF THE OUTCOMES SO WE WOULD FUCKING SUFFER. Not too different from a movie trailer really.

So there are four main problems set up. Each of them are set up to make us ask questions.

Villains: Oh, what an array. Cherubs, Dhorks, new John Waters villain, Andrealphus, shadowy figures in hoods, Mammon flipping off the camera, etc. We're given very little information about how any of these confrontations will go. We just know there will be conflict/danger.

2. Blitz vs. self: "you always take from those around you . . ." "do you feel any kind of remorse for what you do?" "I make everyone's lives worse." "I don't want to be this way, not forever." One could argue that we've already seen tremendous growth with that last quote appearing in Apology Tour. I think that if I saw this group of quotes together without the context of the episodes so far, I would have assumed it would come last. But I think it's the beginning of a journey. We haven't heard all of these lines yet. And the ones we haven't heard might get closer to the self-loathing Blitz is dealing with than anything we've seen yet. These lines are telling us about a problem- again, the outcome is left blank. How will Blitz transform once he discovers that he wants to change and starts confronting the truly scary things living inside of him.

3. Stolitz: Okay so ALMOST everything in the trailer that has to do with their relationship is from either The Full Moon or Apology Tour. And in retrospect, it was pretty spoiler heavy. Maybe this is my shipper delulu speaking, but I think the writers/editors were okay with the trailer giving this much away from these two episodes BECAUSE these episodes set up the problems with their relationship and do not reveal the outcome.

The problems are ones we knew existed but have now seen tear them apart: Stolas wanting someone to care and Blitz wanting to be respected, the fact that they both love each other and want to be together but each think they're not wanted. Then there's the cruel as fuck framing where the trailer puts together Blitz looking at Stolas in awe and Stolas smiling as if they're in the same moment, only for us to find out in the actual episode that someone else is making Stolas smile.

Anyway, this is all to say that yes, I think that narratively they will get together at or near the end of the season. The trailer tells us that they both love each other despite the problems that are laid out. The solution IS for them to come back together somehow. And the trailer gives us that split second clip of Blitz defending Stolas to . . . I don't know . . . stop heartbroken shippers from rage quitting the show altogether after Apology Tour.

4. Stolas and Octavia: when it comes to the first two episodes in this group, this one has been visible in the show only through Octavia's absence . . . But if we look at the trailer as setting up problems, the problem is clear. "You never loved mother and you don't love me. You love him." Shit is going to hit the fan. And again, we have no idea what the outcome is going to be.

So conclusions?

Trailers are a cool art-form. They have to be narratively cohesive without giving away any outcomes. They have to make us want to see more. They can scare us but they can't be so depressing that they make us give up.

We didn't get random parts of the upcoming story. We got the earlier parts. At least, the earlier parts of each conflict (likely to be spread out somewhat), but please notice that the trailer has told us VERY LITTLE about Mastermind and Sinsmas.

There's very little reassurance in the trailer. It's supposed to be that way. But we do have hints that stolitz will be okay. Trust.

[it-lives-within-the-dark]

I really do love SBCL and I really feel like when you read the manga it SO blatantly in your face…but when I read Yana’s old blog it seems like she’s so dead set against Sebastian and Ciel caring for each other at all…that it’s like does she even see what she writers or and I just delulu… or are antis just cherry picking what they translate 😭😭

Hey Nonny!

Short answer:

I'm not familiar enough with Yana's old blog to make any judgements on what her intentions/feelings are for her story and characters based on her posts (not to mention, it's old - people can change their minds).

Long answer:

I go back and forth when it comes to authorial intent and death of the author. I've literally been on both sides of the issue. As a fan, it's easy to say that what the author intended doesn't matter and that my interpretation of their work is 100% valid, even if it's the complete opposite of what the author intended. On the other hand, I've been in the author's shoes. I took a creative writing class in college where one of our assignments was to write a short story and then the class would discuss it. Simple, right? Easy. Except I wasn't allowed to speak the entire time my work was being discussed. I had to bite my tongue for forty minutes while my classmates completely butchered my story, listen to them miss the main theme completely, focus on a random detail that meant nothing, and walk away at the end of class not understanding anything I tried to convey in my work. I never got to explain what it actually meant; all the little clues and details that they missed - nothing. And it sucked. A lot. But at the end of the day there was nothing I could do about it.

All that to say, I think it's up to you to determine what holds more importance: what Yana says in her old posts (keeping in mind the context in which those remarks were made - what year did she make those comments, and where does that line up in the publishing of the manga? - are you taking into consideration that she is a public figure and that she might need to watch her words so that she doesn't jeopardize her job? etc.), or how you personally interpret the work.

I also think it's important to keep in mind that there can be (and is) a difference in what you, the fan, want to see happen, and what you want to actually happen in canon. There's a tumblr post floating around that discusses this topic but I don't have it handy.

Sorry this was all a bit rambly!

[randybutternubber]

NOT PEOPLE BEING MAD AT NOONE FOR CHOOSING TO GO TO THE NOWHERE INSTEAD OF STAYING WITH HER DELULU CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST 😭😭😭

Just going to say this right now, Otto was grooming Noone- not sexually- but grooming her and using her as a place holder for his sister. He literally roofied her with candy and did the same thing to another kid. Something else I want to say is that Noone’s parents, at least in her perspective, abandoned her. She had a brain tumor, and even if she wouldn’t die from it, Noone was already absolutely losing it over the thought of still being sick. Noone would have likely died, especially considering how she had a seizure during Rusty’s death. To her, she had nothing left.

Hate to add more six discourse, but the LN fandom really forgot how stupid little kids are. Evil little kids in media are fun, but the thing is that there are so many context clues and shit even said by the devs pointing that six isn’t evil, at least not inherently so. She’s a great example of a morally grey character. It’s insane that some people in this fandom legitimately go on rants wishing death upon a fictional child. YOU GUYS ARE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT OF SIX BEING MORALLY GREy 💀💀💀

Anyways I hope Otto explodes

[dayslynthesix]

im currently obsessed with tennis and tennis is the only thing that's on my mind so i just doing what my brain cells are asking

first, the characters here were mentioned in another stories, but its not relevant at all, a little bit of context: lauren is priya sister (from delicate - lewis hamilton x volleyball!player) when i wrote delicate she was supposed to be a little younger than priya, so i made an adjustment just so the agegap wasn't so big and jeremy is yolanda brother (from match point)

i think this one will be like 2 parts

lets goooooo

Deuce | Daniel Ricciardo x tennis player girlfriend

laurencaspari

liked by priyacaspari, ccaspari, usaopen, danielricciardo and 45.876 others

laurencaspari had a little but not so much break time

danielricciardo looking good, laure

landonorris daniel clearly doesn't know how to impress a girls

laurencaspari i feel very impressed

maxverstappen1 wait, what?

robertcaspari everytime my daughter decides to take a break shes not taking a break at all!

georgerussell63 listen to me, you and danny against me and max, when?

maxverstappen1 who told your delulu mind i would play with you?

danielricciardo you did, yesterday, when lando threat to be his mate

laurencaspari i mean we can make it happen but i would rather to play with carmen

lewishamilton what about that grand slam you promised me?

laurencaspari at wimbledon!

ccaspari big sis doing big sis things, love yaaa ❤

user1 so this is the girl daniel is dating? wow, she's gorgeous

user2 i mean, i would date her too

user3 so this is the point where max and daniel go for the divorce?

danielricciardo

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danielricciardo my date for the night

maxverstappen1 let's all of us pretend we don't know who she is

laurencaspari that pasta is looking good, wondering who made it

landonorris ew, pda

carlossainz55 you don't complain about pda when youre the one receiving the pda

redbullracing wondering when we will see her at the garage 🤨

danielricciardo soon adm, soon!

charles_leclerc that pasta is indeed looking very good

elisebutton yeah, ok, i got the clue

elisebutton wow, steeling each other's wife? dirty move, ricciardo

danielricciardo please, dont tell your dad

laurencaspari im still your wife!

maxverstappen1 lauren...

elisebutton everyone knows shes his girl now

user4 she's a roland garros champ!!!! how does danny ric got her is my question of the day

user5 hes a f1 driver, girl

user6 so the lauren caspari is dating a dude who goes vroom vroom very fast for a life?

user7 now she got herself a personal driver

laurencaspari

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laurencaspari hey @lewishamilton what about that? im still shaking, i remember being a child and watching wimbledon on tv with my dad, never expected to be a champion here, and now dreams came true. thank you to my family and my partner and my friends for all the support. usopen see you soon! let's gooooo 🥇🎾

lewishamilton ok, youre a woman of word, i call mercedes to see about my part of the deal

robertcaspari immensely proud of you, my precious daughter is a wimbledon champion

ccaspari big sis doing big sis business once again

jeremyrossi wow, huge congrats lauren! well deserved, you've played a tennis i never saw in my 20 years playing tennis, very proud of you!

priyacaspari HAHAHAHAH i mean, now we all combined have more titles than the boys @yrossibutton

lewishamilton im still 7 times champion of the world

yrossibutton ok, were 3 times olympic champions

laurencaspari i didn't knew we were counting but im tied with jeremy, meaning i have 12 grand slams too

priyacaspari congrats sis, im very very proud!

maxverstappen1 how am i supposed to beat you when you keep winning grand slam after grand slam? congratulations, by the way

danielricciardo im very proud of you, my love, you're incredible and it was magical seeing you play.

laurencaspari i love you ❤

elisebutton wifey doing wifey things considering ferrari is not helping hubby so he can do hubby things

redbullracing hello, @charles_leclerc

charles_leclerc no

maxverstappen1 yes

laurencaspari hey redbull, what about that sponsors thing?

redbullracing come to the next grand prix and we'll see 😉

danielricciardo don't wink at my girl, adm

user8 "my partner" 🥺🥺

user9 she said "i dont have wimbledon yet, hold on" and she went there and won

user10 going 4 out of 4 for grand slams, wow

user11 imagine being bff with aryna and having to play her in the finals?

user12 wait, tennis and formula one world are colliding

user13 that's why charles and pierre have been at roland garros for the past 2 years, they're supporting danny rics girl

danielricciardo

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danielricciardo back to where all started, happy 2 years to us and congratulations to your 12th grand slam, im insanely proud to share you highs with you and insanely proud to call you my girl, love you. ps: could you please get max and i tickets so we can see sabalenka play?

maxverstappen1 dude, i told you to be sutil about it

elisebutton oh, youre so cute its adorable (im crying)

charles_leclerc lis, baby, people will start to think that you're not happy with me 😭

elisebutton i am! im just missing my wife. but i love you, you're my invisible string

landonorris ew 🤢🤢

laurencaspari i knew it! you're with me just so i can get you to see aryna play with your husband! max, stop stealing my man! but yes baby, everything for you ❤

sabalenka_aryna congratulations, lauren! im very happy for you, looking forward to play you again! and please, bring you personal driver to see me play, i will love to see you guys again! xx 😘

ccaspari now we all know who does the cooking in this relationship

maxverstappen1 we all knew wayyyy sooner!

user14 i mean, they are indeed very cute

user15 i just love how lis is friend with her

user16 lauren sister, catharine, have a youtube channel called 3 girls at a boat where her and her sisters went for a boat trip every sunday, lis is one of her closest friends since i don't know 2014

user17 just saw they went to greece this summer with charles and lis

user18 catharine is very funny, i love how she's mocking on lewis and priya and lis and charles all the time

user19 aussie boy got the girl

user20 daniel 2 and a half years ago after watching a tennis match deciding that "hey laurencaspari would like to go out with me?" send tweet was a good idea

maxverstappen1 i was there and told him that yes, was a very good idea

an: ooooooookaay i started this one and at first i didn't liked it but now im just wow, i love it! missing my girl aryna playing and my man danny ric driving a fast car

[peachjagiya]

I dont know if I will make sense, but even if I dont feel like im a "shipper" (just someone who really and genuinely finds the interactions and lore between two people suspicious), the way jkkrs treat their ship, the way they talk about it and misinterpret everything jkk do, just makes me doubt everything all together.

They are the breathing proof of things taken out of context, of ignoring debunking clues on purpose, of constructing narratives out of thin air. They are out there on twt, saying AYS episodes are finally proving jkk as a couple..? are we watching the same show? and if they are so beyond delulu, then, are we the same in the eyes of others? I am so disgusted by the forced sexual scenarios that im starting to hate shipping all together.

No that does make sense.

But shippers are just people. They have shipping in common but a thousand different approaches. A whole crowd at Harry Styles concert and only one person thinks it's ok to throw a water bottle. Doesn't mean all Harry Styles fans are crazy. It means one idiot threw a water bottle. You know?

Put it in the Taekook context: there's a difference between groups of TKKrs even. Casual or invested, aggressive or chilled out, argumentative or drama averse, fun or serious, thoughtful or unhinged, queer or heterosexual.

There's a difference between twitter TKKrs and tumblr TKKrs even. And then when you get on Tumblr, not every TKKr is part of a Tumblr hive mind! There are opinions and thoughts I hold that I'm sure other TKK blogs don't hold.

As a Tumblr TKKr, I note we don't tend to tear each other to shreds about differing opinions. We're maybe united in doing our best to not be dicks, I'm sure, and sometimes due to life experience, general age, attitude and outlook, we often align on things. But we're not a monolith. We don't all get in a big GC to decide our collective attitude. (AS FAR AS I KNOW?!)

There are definitely TKKrs acting the same as JMKKrs. And we're all side-eyeing them. But pointing at them as an indicator that all TKKrs must be like that is a slippery slope.

To let the shitty actions of one group under a category determine how you feel about a whole category feels like you'll just end up hating things more than you ever like things.

Find the group that you can chill with. But then you might not be invested enough to bother and that's ok too!

I hope you find a good balance that works and I'm sorry the scary side of shipping is making you feel this. 💜

[pianostarinwonderland]

damn ok malleus

yes. i am back. and i am gonna not shut up about the last main story update but specifically about the mixed opinions on Malleus' actions.

There's been interesting sides I've seen, both on Twitter and Discord. You have the Malleus stans, mostly the Malleyuu stans, who feel very conflicted about Yuu not being "included" in the dream worlds that Malleus sent the boys to. Then there's the other Malleus stans who are like "lol those Malleyuu stans were in absolute delulu for thinking Malleus would treat Yuu so specially". Thennnn you have some fans who would start discussions about that discourse just to insert their Malleus dislike opinions, where at that point I wished I said pls take that shit out of the topic 🤡

And for me? Well, after a week, I am now sitting here all like . what dafaq

No because there’s something I don’t get and it’s the thing I want to address first: how Malleus' UM works and the whole 'Yuu isn't in the dreams'. You all can correct me on this since I've only been relying on TL summaries and the little context clues I can glean from listening to the main story. From my understanding of how his UM works, Malleus can put people to sleep and put them in their own dream worlds. He can watch these dream worlds since he's the one who has the magic to put these people to sleep.

But he isn't the one conjuring up said dream worlds.

Malleus sent Idia to sleep, but he's not the one creating the scenario where Ortho is still alive and studying in RSA. That's a dream world created not from Malleus' magic but from Idia's inner desires, his inner subconscious. And we are just seeing that his dream world is a world where his brother is alive and happy.

If we are to assume that Malleus created that dream world for Idia, that would mean that he would have known Idia's backstory and grief for Ortho. But like, he doesn't.

Suffice to say then that since Idia's dream is centered around his subconscious, of course Yuu won't be in the dream. To him, Yuu isn't that important in his life. This extends to Grim. While Grim is a cute kitty, ultimately he isn't that important to Idia either, enough that he'd be part of his dream.

And that's why none of the dreams we see so far have Yuu in them. I don't really think it's Malleus excluding them, it's that the other boys don't really find them important enough in their lives to have a spot in their dreams. Sounds harsh, but it is true, especially since this is strictly main story we are talking about. No events being included whatsoever, barely any personal stories being included either (Robe Idia personal being the notable exception as it was actually featured in main story).

Now the second important thing that I don't really have to address but want to really talk about: Malleus' actions. A lot of people find themselves at a point of contention with this. Again, you have a good amount of Malleyuu fans who ended up in their divorce era lmfao. Then there were people who don't necessarily stan him but still felt displeased by his actions.

I don't really have an issue with people not liking what he's doing or acting. I'm not the biggest fan of Malleus either, and people who have either followed me for a while or regularly talk to me on Discord will know this. But what I have an issue with is that it feels like there's been a lack of willingness to understand where Malleus' actions come from. I will acknowledge, I used to not want to understand him, but after some self reflecting and talking to the right people, I can see the dude in a better light than before. The poor guy's been judged pretty badly, maybe not as bad as the judgment that Vil and Leona got, but the shift in opinion and the little willingness to understand him is . welp. kinda lolz. Especially when this has been built up for a while.

People have mentioned already that Halloween 2 shows Malleus' selfishness, and I agree with this sentiment. He sent people to the ghost's dimension, thinking that everyone would be happy. But consequently, while the ghosts are happy, the students are upset at what he and Lilia did. And for good reason! Some of them were possessed, and the others had to save them, which meant getting into fights. It was a dangerous situation to throw them in, especially when they were somewhere else.

Halloween 2 is a perfect example of Malleus doing things thinking that everyone would be happy. But really, it only makes himself happy, and he doesn't see or understand the perspective of others.

Malleus' dorm card and story was also released pretty early on in chapter 7's story for a reason as well. His story shows that selfish side of him, on a much more mundane scale, which is bringing all dorm leaders to Diasomnia for a dorm leader meeting, thinking that it would satisfy everyone. But they were upset of course, because without consent, they were just teleported like that. And that's a pretty scary situation to be taken away unexpectedly.

In short, Malleus' selfishness has always been a part of him. People can have their criticisms and dislike it, just as how you would dislike something in a person. But you can't deny that it is a part of Malleus, just as how him finding value in forgotten things like old architecture and gargoyles is a part of him.

And then you apply this to Chapter 7 where Malleus puts everyone to sleep so that Lilia wouldn't leave. It can and does leave a bad taste that Malleus is putting an entire island to sleep for 1000 years just for one guy to not leave. It’s also maddening that he can watch everyone’s dreams especially when they’re going to be so personal. The show of power, the disregard for others, it can be irritating to people, and if it wasn’t for the fact that it meant getting to know the rest of Diasomnia more, I’d hate it too lol

But personally speaking, I see where the dude’s coming from. Loneliness is a bitch, and it's worsened by the fact that his reputation drives people away. It's no secret either that Malleus' grandma is very busy to the point that there were some dinners with him that she had to cancel last minute due to work. Malleus' parents are dead. And the rest of Briar Valley would treat him with utmost respect and nothing more. So of course he'd cling onto the few things and people in life that make him feel less lonely. It's why he has fondness for Silver and Sebek. It's why he's so interested in people like Yuu and Grim who aren't afraid of him. It's why he values architecture that's been long forgotten.

Lilia of course has been the most influential to him. He's been with him for majority of his life. He's taken care of Malleus, he's kept him company. And for Lilia to suddenly leave and possibly to never be seen again. I think that would be absolutely crushing for Malleus. It's all the trauma and hurt and war flashbacks (that can unfortunately be literal) coming to bite him.

All the powers of the world in his hands, and he cannot gain his happy ending. Poor man.

In short, loneliness really hurts. I also say this personally speaking. When Chapter 7 came out, I was really struggling with loneliness, so it kinda made me empathize with Malleus.

It's also worth noting that Malleus doesn't act entirely on his own feelings. He hears from others their own feedback and feelings and will do something. One of his motivations in doing what he's doing was seeing Silver's and Sebek's reactions. When the two of them reacted to the news, Malleus was the one who told them to accept Lilia's decisions, even if he himself was probably the most hurt by them. Malleus saw Silver cry about it.

It's definitely something ingrained in him as crown prince: that he would have to hear out a problem and come up with a solution. Not that he’s good at it (because interpersonal matters apparently didn’t matter that much to his teachers /hj.) But he does it because he’s taught to. And because he's so powerful, people will look to him to solve the problem. You really see this in Glorious Masquerade, especially when Idia, Azul, and Malleus went up the tower. Idia would be like, "Let Malleus take out the flowers!!" but Azul would use his magic to take them out. In hindsight, when Malleus complimented Azul for his ability, I now wonder if part of it was not just awe for such magical ability but also admiration that someone didn't just rely on Malleus, but stepped up to do something and succeeded in helping out.

There’s really a lot to Malleus right now that’s causing him to do these things. And hey, it’s just like with every other OB that we’ve encountered. Trauma that has hurt them since childhood affects the things that they do in the present, and either the trauma itself or their present actions will bite them back in the ass.

I don’t know anymore man, I’m literally like supposed to be the last person to defend Malleus 🤠 but there’s just some brainworms in the head that I want to let out because damn….. it sucks to see how too much devotion to a fanon version has caused this split and conflict and simultaneously see people who really dislike Malleus take the opportunity to dunk on him without really having substance and understanding in their arguments.

[from-the-clouds]

You're so iconic for starting the Professor!Kendall thing. Dr Roy is a permanent part of my brain now. Every other thought that I have is about him, wondering what his life is like away from hsi family. Did he sell his share? Is he like Connor? Is he still part of the board and still shows up to vote sometimes??

I wonder if his father ever made stories about him while he was working at the university? is it NYU? Every time something Royco related breaksdown publicly every student just spends the entire class micro analysing his movements? Does he make snarky remarks about the company? Are there any students ballsy enough to straight up ask him about it in class???

Imagine the cruise thing is breaking news, it's all everyone is talking about and you have a class with Kendall Roy 💀. I know the entire university has to be waiting to find out something, people reaching out to staff and students trying to get anything.

So MANY thoughts.

Okay, okay, so many good questions here.

This got long so my thoughts are under the cut.

I think as far as his involvement would be -- the MOST he would be involved in the business is having shares and being on the board and occasionally showing up to meetings. However, because I'm delulu, I selfishly want an alternate universe where Kendall doesn't continuously get roped back in the Waystar drama, so I feel he has probably cashed out completely, and is just sitting on a fat pile of $$$. I also like the idea that he left in a sort of dramatic fashion after he was promised the top position but realized quickly his dad was never going to give it to him. So there's probably some tension between him and his family and he doesn't think too highly of the company.

And yes, I think immediately after he left, his dad probably made up all kind of ridiculous stories about him -- especially since Waystar's media brands usually have a conservative voice, there would definitely be a sort of messaging like "He couldn't handle the real world so he went to back to school" or like that gross saying "Those who can't do, teach". I feel like conservative media outlets love to demonize academia any chance they get, so there would definitely be those sort of shady sentiments. But I think once Kendall like, did it for long enough and stuck it out, Logan would probably eventually lose interest. The bad press might've made it hard for him to get a job as a prof at first, but the only the only real thing it would've done is driven a bigger wedge between Kendall and the rest of the family. I do like to think he still speaks to his siblings, but sort of holds them at arms length.

As for the college, I'm not really sure. It could definitely be NYU, or even Colombia, but I do like the idea of him being in more of an old school 'college town' vibe, not necessarily a school in a big city. I could see him wanting to put some distance between himself and his family, but I think he'd still stay on the East Coast. So maybe Harvard? Cambridge definitely has the right vibe. And he could be a professor who was also an alum. But I haven't really decided what the school is.

My main headcanon about him though is that he REFUSES to talk about his family, Waystar, any of the his previous involvement in the company. Not only is it a sore spot for him, so it'd be difficult to talk about, but he also wants to put as much distance between himself and the rest of the Roy family as possible. And nobody really knows the real story of what happened, and he never tells anyone, not even his most trusted colleagues.

However, that would not stop his students from constantly speculating about what happened, listening for context clues in his lectures, watching his every move when something big is happening at Waystar or with one of his siblings. It's like a known thing amongst his students to NEVER bring it up. Every now and then at the beginning of a semester, there's always one student who thinks they're above this unspoken rule, so they try to crack a joke, like "what's the worst that can happen" and he'll berate them in front of the whole class and kick them out just to send a message that it won't be tolerated. Maybe even you ask him during office hours if he got to see his family over the holiday, forgetting for a moment who he is and who his family is, and he gets really tense and awkward -- but he has a soft spot for you and knows you didn't mean to offend him.

And yeah, when the cruises scandal breaks, I bet journalists are reaching out to everyone around him, and he might make a remark in class like "Remember, everything said in my lectures are confidential under university policy" but that's the extent to which he'll acknowledge it. I could even see one day maybe a camera crew bombards him after class, and he remains calm and stoic as he walks to his car and drives off, meanwhile all his students are watching like 😳😳😳

In general, I think, similar to how he is on the show, he would really throw himself into his work and be super vigilant and serious about what he does, just to fill up how lonely he is and how hurt he was by his family. He doesn't show this part of himself to his students though, they just think he's really strict and uptight. But people definitely whisper all the time rumors about what they think happened, why he left, what his life is like now, how much contact he has with his family, but he remains frustratingly tight lipped and reveals very little about his personal life.

That is, of course....until you become his student and get to know him better. 😏

[f0point5]

Lando is literally just like any other man, just because he is famous doesn’t mean he is different but fans want to believe he is whatever image they have in their heads of him.

I don’t know him either, but he literally gives me the vibes of any other fuck boy lol. And I agree with you, if people actually knew Lando’s all time friends they would understand he is not that different from them. Just see how Lando acts in Twitch, that’s just a glimpse of how he’s actually like in real life and let me tell you, he isn’t that bright 😂 He is handsome and funny, I get it but the fact that he is also young, rich and famous should give you the clue that you can’t expect him to be the perfect guy of your dreams.

Sorry for my long ask, just saw people being delulu online about Lando and needed a rant!

Honestly, he seems like a nice guy, but like, he reminds me of a lot of my friends, and fr they’re people who would get cancelled in 3 business days if our texts leaked.

Lando is a 24 year old, with access to pretty much anything he could want. What…do people think he’s going to be like? That he’s going to be feeding the homeless on his lunch hour in Woking? Bffr. Again, he seems like a really sweet guy, no one has a bad word to say about him. But he’s not Prince Charming. You’re not going to find him at the back of a book store hoping to find a plain, sweet, cupcake maker who sees past the fame and understands that he’d really like to just plant trees in the rainforest and shit.

He’s just a guy, who is of his context, that context being upper middle class -> public school -> car racing.

[3rddimension]

okay y’all the new EIOYI had some cute shourtney moments but i think ian meant garrett proposing because the present was “from” garrett. being delulu is fun but context clues also matter

Yeah that's what I said on the first ask. Probably meant that Garett was proposing more. But still a fun episode anyway!

[lifblogs]

The thing that makes me grind my teeth the most about people using the words “delulu” and “delusional” in regards to Tech probably being alive because we’re literally reading a million context clues we’ve been purposefully given, is that… are they not thinking of the mentally ill people? Are we just not considered or thought about? Do we not exist to them unless they see a quirky “inspirational post,” or if we have a problem right in front of them? Are we not real to the rest of the world?

[lemonhemlock]

I find there’s also an emphasis in HOTD fandom on excusing things with “it’s not that deep” when it comes to something that doesn’t line up with their narrative, but adhering to the “facts” when it does. Certain stans will write off certain things Mushroom says (Sara Snow, anything that paints TB as less than holy) but will swear things like Brothel queens or Aegon in the child fight pits was book canon too. People even do it with the show: the idea that child Aemond saying he’d marry Helaena should be brushed off and ignored simply because he’s a child, like it can’t say something about the character? Both versions feels disrespectful towards the writing somehow- like there are things in books/scripts that should be totally ignored. F+B is a different case with how it’s presented, and we are meant to go 🤣🙄 at some of Mushrooms stuff, but he’s still in the book for a reason. Even if you think the reason is to say goofy shit lol. It just bothers me to see people disregard what hard work writing is just bc it doesn’t align with their version of the show.

certainly both sides will have their biases, but i also think people maybe disregard the differences between the two mediums. visual storytelling is one thing and has its own rules, while writing is a an entirely different beast. ofc writing allows for more complex messages and thoughts, because there is a lot more space available on paper to flesh out certain ideas, while film-making requires culling a lot of content, condensing said ideas and makes use of different tools.

so, if in writing, you can afford to have mushroom say a bunch of wacky shit just for gags and have it not mean much of anything, you don't have that kind of space or luxury on screen. so, if you CHOOSE to have mushroom's ideas presented, you have to be vv careful with the framing. there are ways of presenting it to the audience as an outright lie OR as ambiguous OR as the straight-up truth and the techniques used will differ according to the desired result. you can't just chuck it randomly in there bc you run the risk of telling an incoherent story that contradicts itself instead of the carefully constructed ambiguous or grey narrative you're aiming for

sometimes it is indeed not that deep, but you just have to evaluate everything based on the medium, context clues and the probability of it being true in relation to the other information presented. for example, grrm the writer can afford to present us three different versions of the same event and we can decide which is the most likely according to how reliable the sources are. but hotd is NOT filmed like The Last Duel, so the writers of the show usually have to pick ONE version and stick to it. however, they don't have to be entirely explicit about it, because visual storytelling has certain rules of its own that people who are not brain-dead or delulu implicitly understand, based on how cinema has evolved throughout history.

so, if we see daemon picking up a rock and looking at rhea, then the scene cuts to smth else and she's dead, we're meant to understand that he killed her with the rock, not that it's ambiguous. if harwyn strong is shown on screen to be overly familiar with rhaenyra's children, then it means he's the father, not that we don't know for sure. if a character issues a statement or an interpretation and it is never challenged in any way, we're meant to take it as fact, because that's how relaying information to the audience works in this medium, in the absence of word-of-god narration / exposition dump. like if luke is reinforced as the heir to driftmark and rhaena assures him at dinner that he'll do a great job, we're meant to understand that she has no qualms about the entire situation, not that she's secretly pissed or disappointed about it.

a lot of ink has already been spilled about aemond and helaena already and people just refuse to call a spade a spade, like it's costing them their entire bank savings to admit they just don't like a writing choice. in any other film or tv show having a character* look wistfully at another and express a desire for marriage would be interpreted as a deliberate choice by the writers to position said character as a potential love interest. anywhere but in hotd, ofc. 🤦‍♂️ what a drag, what a bore.

*especially one with little airtime

[noodlyappendages03]

Saw him this morning for all of two seconds and said hi. Was pleasant and oddly, it wasn't weird. He slowed his pace and we made eye contact, but he didn't stop to chat and ask me where I had been. My guess is he figured it was none of his business and didn't want to give the wrong impression or the mean, self-loathing part of me thinks he straight up didn't care. I showed up late because my daughter had a ceremony at school. I'm sure he noticed because he took my damn parking spot!

He left early today. DD doesn't owe me anything and I'm not entitled to know his whereabouts either, but it's one of these guesses: 1. He has his kid and there's some sort of end of year event (thus, why I also came in late). 2. He's meeting with a divorce lawyer to hash out child support (the likeliest possibility based on what I've heard from last week). 3. He has another date. I prefer to think it's Option #2, since he was getting advice from his dad who had flown into town on Friday. He's been doing divorce stuff every other Tuesday.

But there's always that distinct possibility he left early to meet up with a woman. I don't want to think about that....or it being the same woman I had mentioned before. Which is why #2 is either the truth or a comforting lie. Guess I'll find out if he shows up tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon.

People are complicated. Life is complicated. It's hard to relate to TikTok because many of those giving advice are younger and it's their first rodeo. Let me be a bit delulu and more nuanced for a minute. My guess - based on the look he gave me and the context, which can't be described in words adequately - is that he was starting to fall in love with me but knew he didn't want more and also wasn't in a place to give more. We were having a great time, then suddenly it just came to a screeching halt. It wasn't a definitive answer. "Maybe we shouldn't do this anymore..." He couldn't ask me for the next step and the next step would have also put my career there on ice. He didn't want me to uproot my life because I think he realized in the process of uprooting his how much I would have to sacrifice for him. Money I worked hard to earn, my house I've worked so hard on. Time with my daughter. Time that he will most likely lose with his own. He knows I love my daughter and knows that it would break my heart if I was going through the same ordeal. So he didn't want me go through that if I didn't have to. Plus, if it affected our professional life, that had the potential to negatively affect the child support issue as well as my livelihood. He couldn't give me the consistency I need, and it wouldn't have been fair to me. (But of course he can have fun with another divorcee who doesn't work with him, is jaded by love, and has already been through the whole thing. Less at stake with that one. She has less to sacrifice for him. Hmm. Key word....less.) In a way, it was a very loving thing to do to be honest and up front. And I did a loving thing back by letting go, as hard as it was. (He's a smart man...I think now he knows just how hard it was to make the decision that I did. I was trying not to tear up talking to him Friday, which is why I was averting my eyes so much. Soul-searching wasn't just me flipping a coin. I agonized and cried for hours.)

ETA: His divorce is public record, so I looked. He contested his divorce on Friday, which is why he was gone. He's hurting and stressed. Explains Thursday and Friday. I was hurting, he was hurting. Fuck. Not sure where he went today. He has no clue I lay in bed crying a good chunk of the weekend.

[bishopsbelova]

the fact that if we go with the actors age, it means that Olivia has like 4 years left to retirement and Amanda 20 wtf?! (because yes she's back as a detective, possible Sergeant for me ok?! I'm in delulu season). But, looking at svu fandom wiki page, Olivia is born in 1968, 4 years younger then M, so she got 8 years left, then Amanda takes over ssshhh. Also if they don't want to make Fin retire, it's cool, make him a Lieu and Amanda a Sergeant, best run precinct in all Manhattan. I got my delulu clown mask on you see.

I guess we just gotta go by the actor ages in terms of Amanda and Sonny anyway - though I also guess context clues over the years do show that they’re roughly the same age anyway.

I need Sergeant Rollins-Carisi like I need air okay - and please homegirl has been acting like a Sarge for a few seasons now anyway. Amanda was always supposed to take over from Liv and I still stand by that 😭😭

They mess with Noah’s age - they can mess with Fin’s 🤷🏻‍♀️ cause I know Ice is here until Mariska leaves/the end of the show. So like just bump him up to Lieutenant and make Amanda a Sergeant (and she can have her job she loves back and have more power over what cases she goes out in the field on)

They’re technically supposed to have a Captain, Lieutenant and Sergeant on top of a few detectives anyway 🤷🏻‍♀️.