#then they try to argue that ACTUALLY the Princes don't matter and we shouldn't spend so much time talking about them
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this is a Princes in the Tower and Edward of Lancaster stan account btw
#I do not want to hear one word against Edward of Lancaster#not a single one#least of all if you're a yorkist stan who thinks that edmund of rutland's death in battle at 17 by his father's enemies is a tragedy#while simultaneously thinking that edward of lancaster's death in battle at the same age by HIS father's enemies is a cause of celebration#deeply embarrassing and unserious behaviour#and where to even start with how the majority of self-declared 'Yorkists' treat the Princes in the Tower 🤡#I've truly never seen anything like it#first they try to vilify two children (including a literal 9-year-old) for being 'Woodvilles'#which in their minds is synonymous to greed/duplicity/ambition/unworthiness aka how they view the Princes' mother#then they try to deny that their vaunted Richard III murdered them even though they're perfectly willing to believe John murdered Arthur#then they try to argue that Richard III was just 'a man of his times' and downplay his actions even though his usurpation and deposition#of his pre-teen nephews absolutely broke all parameters of politically and personally acceptable behaviour in medieval England#then they try to argue that ACTUALLY the Princes don't matter and we shouldn't spend so much time talking about them#(says the person who spends all their time trying to convince people on the internet that Richard didn't kill them)#then they try to argue that finding out what happened to the Princes shouldn't affect our reading of Richard III and won't change how we#view his reign#even though it absolutely affected how contemporaries viewed him and was what provoked opposition to his rule#like. what is happening here. where is this one-sided beef against a long-dead 12-year-old and 9-year-old coming from?#are you okay?
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#I do not want to hear one word against Edward of Lancaster#not a single one #least of all if you're a yorkist stan who thinks that edmund of rutland's death in battle at 17 by his father's enemies is a tragedy #while simultaneously thinking that edward of lancaster's death in battle at the same age by HIS father's enemies is a cause of celebration #deeply embarrassing and unserious behaviour#and where to even start with how the majority of self-declared 'Yorkists' treat the Princes in the Tower 🤡 #I've truly never seen anything like this#first they try to vilify two children (including a literal 9-year-old) for being 'Woodvilles' #which in their minds is synonymous to greed/duplicity/ambition/unworthiness aka how they view the Princes' mother #then they try to deny that their vaunted Richard III murdered them even though they're perfectly willing to believe John murdered Arthur #then they try to argue that Richard III was just 'a man of his times' and downplay his actions even though his usurpation and deposition #of his pre-teen nephews absolutely broke all parameters of politically and personally acceptable behaviour in medieval England #then they try to argue that ACTUALLY the Princes don't matter and we shouldn't spend so much time talking about them #(says the person who spends all their time trying to convince people on the internet that Richard didn't kill them) #then they try to argue that finding out what happened to the Princes shouldn't affect our reading of Richard III and won't change how we #view his reign#even though it absolutely affected how contemporaries viewed him and was what provoked opposition to his rule #like. what is happening here. where is this one-sided beef against a long-dead 12-year-old and 9-year-old coming from? #are you okay? (via @wonder-worker)
this is a Princes in the Tower and Edward of Lancaster stan account btw
#needed to copy your tags op bc SAY THAT 🗣️🗣️#i'm SO SICK of seeing people fall over themselves trying to make richard iii the Ultimate Victim of the wotr#while giving ZERO moral consideration to literally anyone else and their attitude towards the princes is so telling#(wrt the john/arthur parallel it is funny too how they try to distance him from that. when breton historians bring it up time and again#as a parallel 🤡)#anyway. ty op i feel so vindicated#fifteenth century
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