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@sunshinecatie I tried explaining myself, you went "I'm sorry you're hurt" rather than actually apologising.
You willfully misrepresented my opinion that Ed wouldn't kill Jon over him and Susan consensually banging based on canon dialogue rather than buried fics and roped Dee into it instead of just agreeing to disagree until pushed to do so.
I reached out to understand what went wrong. Twice. The second time when I realised your reasons still did not make sense. You WERE upset, why? Wording. What wording? I did not put "I think" at the start or otherwise phrase my opinion as an AU, OC or headcanon.
You doubled down and kept making it about wording when I, like Lunar, say what I mean and the aggression you took from it (on the discord) was projection on your part. However, this post is what it looks like when I am actually angry at you.
Which became a snowball self-fullfilling prophecy because you kept claiming I was angry in the original interaction when I wasn't (which in itself was aggrevating). Eventually making me genuinely angry.
At this point, I:
a. Neither expect nor deserve forgiveness from you or anyone you consider a friend
b. Do not trust the discord to be a safe space for anyone except those you already consider a friend, which is why I left. Because it quickly turned out to not be a fun Rogues fandom chat, and instead Catie's Corner.
c. Do not trust the sincerity of anything you say, given how thoroughly you have repeatedly warped my very straightforward frustrations with your inability to live and let live different interpretatons of canon text (you were only ok with the idea of Ed's actions being confined to an AU, OC or headcanon; when discussion of canon text is very standard procedure in fandom and the act of doing so in itself is not reason for upset, but it proved to be for you, which is why I started to consider you a more controlling person - which likely does not reflect yourself generally).
If you were actually going to reach out to rekindle a nonexistent friendship, you would have. Don't pretend you actually give a shit when you have done nothing but deny, deflect and distance. That is an especially shallow attempt to gage sympathy instead of actually doing better. You don't care about "fixing things", all you care about is making this (me) go away so you don't have to deal with it.
I also do not expect you to agree with my perspective on things, given how prone you have proven to be to misinterpreting people.
So let me be clear.
I was not angry in the discord when all this started.
I am now very angry for how you refused to see that I was not originally angry and instead focussed entirely on how you disliked how you felt I was saying you were "wrong".
You are not "wrong".
I did not say you were "wrong".
My phrasing, to anyone but you, clearly did not even imply you were wrong. It was a disagreement / counterpoint sure, but nothing argumentative or insulting.
Let me repeat.
Me disaggreeing with you does not mean you are wrong!
Also! If people besides me DO for whatever reason think you are wrong, then THAT IS OK!
Disagreement is not invalidation.
Your focus on thinking I needed validation was honestly a bit perplexing.
I was baffled you freaked out over me thinking Ed wouldn't do X. Because whatever I think about Ed doesn't mean you need to think the same thing. I gave my reason for why I thought what I thought. That wasn't an argument. That was just making sure you understood why I thought that about Ed, even if you don't agree.
I vented my anger on my personal account because I did not want to bother people but still wanted to get out how I felt. I have virtually no following, so considered it basically posting into the void the same as any other rant post. I thought the block would keep the post local to my blog. Trying to rebuild this bridge while I still had this box of matches in my pocket would not end well. I would be holding in everything I grew to hate about you through gritted teeth. I do not think like you do, I need actual closure to move on and that is not possible here.
I was frustrated that at every point I attempted to talk to you, you never listened and we just came out further misunderstanding each other.
==>You are not at fault. <==
Silence doesn't feel like mending, or peace, just an indefinite continuation of whatever note was left on.
I also am not vague posting. I am very specifically posting about my exact feelings about fandom discourse and the ways I disagree with your attitude towards it. My non-fandom rants are not about you, your actions have however triggered (inappropriately, I must add) those non-fandom (trauma / mental health) rants.
No it is not your fault. No this is not an attempt at pity farming. It just happens sometimes. Sometimes things people do remind me of past abusers (and yes, your misunderstandings, mannerisms and thought patterns (in terms of what you share online) very closely resemble a narcissistic abuser of mine I have since cut ties with. Does that mean you are narcissistic or abusive? No. The similarities are likely entirely superficial, but it does explain (though not excuse) the misfire), and that exacerbates whatever more mild feelings were initially experienced into a full-blown episode. Again, no that is not your fault, it is just a thing that happens that I am working on and has genuinely improved from the shit show it was before starting medication.
I love the Rogues Podcast. I'm glad you enjoy it as much as I do. I have since 2015, I think. Long before I started social media or any community interaction. I have come to not love the community, which IS yours more than it is Dee's and Codot's, especially these days.
Asking questions is not the issue, it's how you lord yourself over others for being someone asking Dee and Codot questions that is the issue. Again, you are not listening.
For the sake of levity, and because it is how I feel:
One measly interview does not grant you the authority you seem to think you have. You can reframe my anger however you wish, but that does not change the fact that at no point have you actually listened to a single thing I have been trying to tell you that others have perfectly understood without issue, making it clear it isn't my wording.
This is actually why I partially blamed your behaviour on you being American. Silly, I know. But in all the communities (with a mix of fans from across the globe) I have enjoyed interacting with, it has always been American fans that start shit and blame it on me / something innocuous I said. Always.
Granted, that was only one or two other times (once with a Legend of Korra fan and another with a far right Fallout fan) so my sample size is small but still.
Autistic people aren't all the same. It stands to reason that speech and mannerisms will generally differ across countries. What wording you need to feel unbothered is VERY specifically with added reassurance. In the discord I felt like I needed to follow up everything with something to go "You're valid (Catie)!" to keep you placated. It's not like I waltzed in there are picked the fights that ended up happening. I waltzed in their and started talking about Rogues and other stuff I like.
This is a side-tangent, but my feelings towards the ways we miscommunicated with each other are much like my mum's feelings towards most software she uses for work demanding the use of American spellings and American grammar even when set to "British English", which is clearly a completely superficial setting that doesn't actually adhere to British grammar and spelling.
So I lashed out in frustration. And rather than confront me yourself, you called upon Codot and the discord to do it for you, or at the very least so they would hear your version of the story first so they come into this with your story already in mind. Telling people you treat like goons to tell me to back off doesn't work. It just validates my unflattering view of you. Sorry.
I have tried to be as clear as possible in this post.
If it upsets you, fine.
The only thing I ask is that you please do not feel threatened or upset when people besides me discuss Rogues!Ed (and the Rogues podcast as a whole on a deeper level than just "Wow! I LOVE that character!", "That line was SO funny!", etc.). Not as an AU, OC or headcanon, but just how they see them in text. Otherwise this will happen all over again, just with someone else. And it will be your fault.
#i am autistic#it is not an excuse#Lunar's post honestly feels like a perfect extension of how I feel about this situation and you Catie#I feel like I have to stay silent around you#and walk on eggshells#I don't know what will set you off honestly#since it took just saying I wouldn't think Ed would do something for you to become upset the first time#then dramatically stormed off the server after I told you to stop bereting other server users who believe in death of the author#It's not like I was being hateful or hurtful#I honestly thought my posts would be hidden from you since I blocked you (and lunar in case you asked them to snoop for you)#I am allowed to however vent in my own bloody blog#I very specifically referred to things you said and your username#that isn't vague posting it's shower arguments#I posted them fully thinking the block would prevent you from seeing them#i am new to tumblr#Frankly I wish to swear worse than a sailor at you#at the same time#I wish I was financially able to fly over there and share my non-rogue passions with you#Like teaching you aerial and such#I guess as a way to apologise and talk candidly about things you are less likely to get upset about because they're unfamiliar#I've avoided going into detail about how profoundly you've upset me in case my anger didn't make that clear enough#But your initial attack and every attack to others or myself has made my heart beat through my chest and made me unable to sleep#I have gone out of my way to move on and do things to help#walks#touching grass (you and Lunar should also do this quite frankly)#talking therapy#going back on my anti-depressents after not needing them for a year#trying to focuss on other things#none of it helped so I needed to vent#In case you still think I'm trolling or doing this for fun I am not and never was
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