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im well aware im the only person that finds the idea of tavros having a thing for rose as funny as i do but come the fuck on . actual worst 2 months of her life and its been pretty bad for her before
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Look, after mindflayers, [spoilers], [spoilers] and [spoilers], being chaotic good and chaotic nice become two different things. Anyway BG3 has me by the throat and this is my Tav! Their name is Tavrose (She/They), they're a dark urge lore bard ( A Dirge, if you will), who started off a sweet heart who steadily got less and less patient as the story went on. I blame Astarion. Hope I can draw more of her soon /o/
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Thinking about the wonderful poem by jjbang8, "His wife had filled the house with chintz. To keep it real I fuck him into the floor." It reminds me so much of my Tav, who is demisexual, but uses sex as a means of expressing appreciation and love to those they're incredibly close to.
It makes me think of how sex with Astarion, in the beginning, was a way of offering the vampire intimacy from the only approach he's used to. Only with my Quinntav their first night together they made it implicitly clear that they were offering for the sheer joy of witnessing what comfort they could bring him and.
Quinn had told him this before, but Astarion has consistently been baffled. Sceptical. Two hundred years and he says that only a scant few times has he felt pleasure himself while with any one else. Sex has, by and large, been a matter of survival, at best for him. At worst, it's been about stomaching Cazador's abuse.
But then comes along this Tiefling who harbors their own demon, who thinks themself to be unlovable and cruel, who finds so much joy in making their own companions happy, and ensuring everyone's survival of at the cost of their own. And all Quinntav wants to do is hold Astarion's hand. Sleep naked with him in the same bed. Sing melodies to the vampire and frustrate him into throwing tantrums.
And to get down on their knees for him, to feel his fingers in their hair, to watch the anger and fear vanish from his eyes for just a few moments, due to something they are able to provide.
It's a slow process, even after that first night. It's offering Astarion every chance to be physically near them, it's waiting for him to take the first step every time, in and outside of the bedroom. It's less then a few encounters that involve sex, itself, until eventually Astarion admits he needs to put it aside until he can be with someone in that way without seeing Cazador's face.
When Quinn begins to feel stirrings of their own sexual desire for Astarion, it's so far into their relationship that both have admitted to themselves that they love each other. That Quinn has taken so many precautions to ensure that Astarion has space of his own (understanding that he needs to be alone sometimes, that sometimes the vampire can't stand to be touched even by the first person he's begun to trust and ultimately care for), that when the Tiefling tries to hide it from Astarion out of fear of making him uncomfortable in any way, that Astarion finds this to be charming. To be endearing. To be heart breaking. As this singular person that has beheld more of him then anyone else should somehow feel as though they're failing him somehow.
(That, and this is no small surprise, Quinn discovers that they have a worship kink may add to the amusement, but I digress.)
Sex never becomes a large part of their relationship, but it's incredibly remarkable when Astarion begins to request certain acts of extreme vulnerability during sex. Specific positions and etc that, previously, occurred when he was being used not for his own pleasure, but strictly for another's. To fill a quota. To placate his abusive creator.
Their relationship may not fit the poem to a T. But Astarion was trapped in a loveless situation. He had nothing to his name save for the clothing on his back, repeatedly repaired by hand year after year. ("His wife has filled his house with Chintz.") by his own person. But finally he's able to return to something for the sheer pleasure of it. He has begun to heal, to feel again, to want and to be allowed to want whatever he desires. And the comfort he feels while in these acts of carnal pleasure has been one of the most remarkable signs of beginning to heal that he is able to find within himself ("To keep it real I fuck him into the floor").
#personal#bg3#bg3 astarion#any way this is an unpolished mess of a rant and i can write an million pages about his relationship with Quinntav#and how important it is also for them as a dark urge character#hell how quinntav relates to myself as someone on the ace spectrum is phenomenal#quinntav refuses to be there if Astarion chooses to ascend#despite how they feel for him they've spent too long wrestling with their dark urges to stay with him#(unlike tavrose who would)#but i like to think that witnessing Quinntav face their own horrors and the things they've done would help to embolden Astarion#into choosing to not repeat Cazador's legacy of terror
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Tavros in the fairy dress will always be close to my heart
#i wish they kept the ghosts disabled#god tiering is diffrent since you literally die and are reborn like you are physically not the person you are before#but it dosent make sence for ghosts to not be disabled#esp with how inconsistant it is#(equius still retaining his horn injury meanqhile tavroses legs r miraculously fixed)
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eqitav...... im an eqitav truther btw tavquius? horse and bull and then they kiss on the lips or whatever (i think equius engraved a cuitemark onto tavroses legs)
HI EQUITAV IS SO REAL. equius literally built his legs that's gotta count for something.
#fr i think they could actually get along really well#everyone else gets up to a lot of ANTICS and that feels like it could be tiresome for both parties. so. find peace and quiet in one another#also i feel like out of all the characters tavros would be a good person to give equius the what for abt the hemospectrum#n equius could help tavros learn to speak his mind or at least abstain from the chaos.#homestuck#my art#daily post#equius zahhak#equius#tavros#tavros nitram#equitav#day 216
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I need to see all your troll designs so badly!!!! I mean already in love with your feferi design I want to see what you’ve come up with for the others!!!
Here are my designs!! Some have been designed by my past drawing and some had go be thought on the spot!! There is reasons for certain choices,,, so ill explain them:
because everyone's horns are the same colour as there blood karkats horns have been crudley painted on grey to match his shirt,,, for whateva!! Sollux has bee related things because I thought it would be silly for him to be a "fake queen bee"... ,kanayas sign is not on her suit it is on her sleeve!! As it would be covered by her big collar!! Tavroses hair was dyed to represent a brown ljke bull,,,, also he has a bull ring,, however i didn't know how to show thay in the redesign!! Also kanaya and vriska have extra limbs,,, vriskas is to represent spider legs and kanayas grub limbs,,, aradia is on a ouja board because I thought it would be cool of she got around like that!!!! A good chunk are based on there lusus minus some!! Like eridan is based a tiny bit on his lusus which is why he has a seahorse tail whereas karkat isn't really so he stayed the same!!! The explanation is done!!!
#feferi peixes#karkat vantas#vriska serket#glub glub#kanaya maryam#equius zahhak#eridan ampora#aradia megido#sollux captor#terezi pyrope#nepeta leijon#tavros nitram#gamzee makara#all the trolls#trolls#fishyprincess#glubby#glubs#fish#im not tagging all there respective animals#homestuck feferi#homestuck vriska#homestuck eridan#homestuck gamzee#homestuck kanaya#homestuck tavros#homestuck nepeta#homestuck aradia#homestuck trolls#redesigns
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gamzee makara when he kissed tavroses corpse or something
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I'm remaking that animation from before and not only is going really well it's producing some very cute tavroses. tavrosi? tavreese.
#mun's art#tavros#still not completely confident my ability to make art won't up and vanish again at any minute#but im really happy its working for the moment
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ur blood swap is literally the coolest. so clearly well thought out. i am kind of literally in love with bloodswap tavroses i love to see one if available
to be real i have NOT thought much about tavros but hes an indigo!
he has the classic FREAK STRENGTH of the zahhak gene and he does NOT DO WELL WITH IT. he tries so hard to be delicate and careful but hes incredibly clumsy and bad at controlling his strength. hes a. hes like. a.
like a bull in a china sh
#ask#anonymous#lofaf bloodswap#tavros#he is also sweaty unfortunately. he hates it.#he still has self-confidence issues but like. imagine *confident* quote unquote tavros from canon#except hes like that all. the time.#constantly talking about what a confident guy would do in his situation and doing a bunch of backpedaling and cop outs#instead of being a huge pupa pan fanboy hes a big fan of troll kintaro (actual troll equivalent pending)
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day 28
plushies i think would be available on earth c include; bunnies in every fucking outfit you can think of, horrorterror-themed squiddles, lusii that make horrific-but-accurate noises when squeezed, collectable mutant cats, and fucked up looking frogs.
(tavroses tinkerbull plush is canon, though! kanaya sewed it for her. i think people forget about that a lot.. theyre friends)
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i dont even mind angsty art of tavroses abuse but the amount of people who make vriska so comically evil and malicious and everyone just accepts it as 100% canon is really weird . the tragedy of their situation is that vriska is acting out of her own hurt + jealousy ; i wouldnt even argue she hates tavros , i think she hates what tavros being happy means for her - that she is a product of abuse and a deeply flawed society , and that it isnt just ' natural ' for people to grow up cruel and defensive like her , she is seeing someone who grew up in similar circumstances ( on alternia , their individual situations are obviously pretty different ) and who is happy and who is peaceful and she refuses to come to terms with what that means . so she just says tavros is weak and this kind of grotesquely twists back around to vriska trying to make tavros Like Her - cruel and defensive ! so thats where the abuse comes in . its a very twisted result of vriska ' caring ' about tavros and her whole worldview of strength coming from abuse i mean hardship and refusal to accept the fact that she herself is a victim .
vriska isnt cruel to tavros out of any traditional idea of hatred , at least not to me , but because tavros existing the way she does contradicts her worldview and if she thinks about it for too long shell realise that she is a victim and that she didnt need to turn out like this in a circumstance that was in any way healthy . that the fact that she needed to do this to survive is a fundamental flaw of the world she grew up in , and that tavros being the way she is isnt a fault of tavroses , or a sign of weakness . but she is a thirteen year old girl who has been told to think like this her whole life .
when vriska kisses tavros and gets rejected , she feels pathetic for not responding by forcing reciprocation . when she eventually kills tavros , she feels pathetic for feeling guilty . she is the first one to acknowledge how fucked up she acted in the dream bubbles
stop watering down their relationship to ' vriska is evil and a bitch and tavros is good and a wimp ' . their whole relationship is built on vriskas own abuse and would not exist the way it does if she was more well adjusted . youre allowed to feel sorry for tavros , youre allowed to dislike vriska , but you are doing a major disservice to both of their characters by struggling to understand the nuance !!!
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What do you--
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When the fuck did she do this?
Is she talking about Tavrossprite back in Homestuck Proper?
Does Dumb Bitch McGee not know how long it's been???
Or is she speaking of the billions of Dead!Tavroses that existed back then???
Literally what did she mean by this.
#blog#upd8#homestuck#homestuck squared#homestuck beyond canon#notwriting#notastory#vriska serket#notmyart
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Act One has been fun, thus far.
I've discovered my Tav's personality as I've played.
Alignment: True/Chaotic Neutral, Quirks/Tropes: Guttural Growler, Tranquil Fury, Combat Pragmatist, Deadpan Snarker, Undying Loyalty, Alchemist, Absent Minded Humming
Time spent with the subject has reveled some interesting character traits. Tavrose appears for all the world to be altogether unappealing to get along with: a sarcastic wit that suggests little by way of amusement when used, a manner of speech that would lend itself better to his mother tongue, eyes that pierce unwaveringly towards anyone who deigns approach him... And yet ask anyone of his traveling companions who better they would have at their head, and they can name none other!
Tavrose is a strategist, appealing to the weaknesses of his enemies with a sort of precision only years spent as an expert hunter could have gifted him. Oftentimes it is said that his tent smells of some incense lit, some potion brewing, some flowers crushed and left by the way side. He reads often, though seemingly rarely for pleasure, and it is after some line of questioning that Tavrose's knowledge bank is not only due to his profession...but also to a deep, unerring interest in all manner of creatures around him. Ask the Tiefling how large his Owlbear cub is to grow, ask about his talon length, the state of his diet, when he is expected to molt, etc, etc, and Tavrose will provide down to the letter everything it is you ask and then some.
Tavrose does not detest monsters by any means: if a charismatic approach may be made towards a frenzied beast, he will find a way of pacifying the creature. He let's himself decide on how he is he approaches a person, no matter their disposition or known history, and is unerringly loyal to those close to him to the point of showing true upset whenever an ally is slighted, be it physically or emotionally.
Though Tavrose will often choose to share information when it is seemingly most convenient for him, his line of humor can be absolutely scathing, and he is not one by any means for idle conversation...a friend in this Tiefling is a friend that will last a lifetime.
Additional Notes: The Tiefling's character is noticeably different then that of his...Patron's. But it may be due to the Devil's influence that Tavrose remains remarkably unflapplable in even the most vexing of situations.
I have also caught the Tiefling humming on occasion. Always the same melody, I believe it to be a lullaby written in consideration of the goddess Selune herself.
When asked what instrument he would consider picking up, Tavrose stated the violin. Because, I quote, "The old man has extras." The old man in question is, yes, whom you would expect.
I caught the Hunter giggling just the other day! Or...their approximation of it. He had taken some of the Owlbear cub's stray feathers and wedged them into Scratch's fur, resulting in a very irate pup, indeed.
Tavrose seems to be no stranger to sharing mental scenes with his companions. Sometimes it is a manner of strategy, but according to Karlach is may be that Tavrose finds it less difficult then using anything as fallible as mere words. When asking Wyll if he had seen anything particular of interest in Tavrose's mind, the Blade of Frontiers said thus:
"Imagine a sea of flowers, farther still then your eyes can dare reach. See the blue skies and feel the crisp, spring wind on your cheeks. Imagine the buzz of mayflies near your ear, and a voice on the wind, calling your name to return home. I think it was his childhood, his mother, that he tried to recall. But it always ends there, right as his head turns. I treasure that he gifted this memory to me. People look at Tav and see some...stoic, no-nonsense mercenary. I see him, and I see a humming meadow. Quiet. Contemplative. A comfort."
They pretty, your honor.
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current tavroach lore is that gnat was so bewitched by tavroses autistic swag that he broke the rules of paradox space and reality and everything to intercept the meteor and find her about a year into the journey . + also stopped her from being dead by talking her out of confronting vriska . this is because yuri is really powerful and good
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Troll Types Sorted By Maintenance Level
Low Maintenance
Feferies*: caretakers by nature, they love to help around the home and tend to catch and care for any small animals that cross their paths, the only thing you really need to watch out for is their willingness to abduct outdoor pets in order to care for them, this behavior is mostly seen in Feferies who don’t have enough to do at home so it’s important to keep their swimming areas full of fishy friends, and enriching toys, as well as to change out the decorations fairly regularly.
Aradias: there are two variants of Aradia, white eyed and orange eyed. the orange eyed variant will be discussed here. Orange eyed Aradias are cheerfully morbid psychics, they will often tell you about the things their ghost friends have told them. Orange eyed Aradias also require digging space and things to find in the dirt.
Kanayas: require a constant source of their crafting material of choice many prefer sewing but not every troll in a group is the exact same so make sure to try new things with Kanayas so they can find their passions. Kanayas also have an aptitude and propensity for chainsaws so be aware of that. Additionally kanayas socialize very uniquely so it’s important to give them the space they need and not force them into anything too fast.
Tavroses: incredibly sensitive and prone to peer pressure. they have potential and the will to carry anything through if not presented anyone who tells them not to. with a Tavros it’s important to help them stand their ground and trust their own judgement. they are prone to hip/knee issues as well so keep an eye on that. [also they require wide doorways]
Average Maintenance
Karkats: Karkats are very loud and require constant attention which they will complain about the entire time. If you want to adopt a Karkat you need to have a thick skin as this group can vocalize but oddly enough the ability seems inexplicably limited to insulting their caretakers. They also enjoy movies more than any other troll group what kind of movies a Karkat prefers goes by a case by case basis so provide a wide variety to see what they like most.
Solluxes: Their mood swings make these trolls a bit unpredictable, one week may be full of quiet gaming and happy coding while the next they’re full of manic energy and shredding their personal space. Additionally, they get migraines rather frequently and may very well predict the imminent death of your loved ones. Solluxes require patience and understanding but make for great company in a lonely home.
Equiuii: They can shatter buildings with a flick of their little finger but they are desperate for approval. they don’t like hanging out with those they deem ‘lesser’ so when raising an Equius a progressive and inclusive mindset is required. Milk is something the average Equius will want en mass so be sure to have a fridge properly stocked at all times. as well as some tinker-toys and metal puzzles as Equii love to build little devices and solve simple puzzles.
Terezies: These trolls will lick/sniff anything and everything as that is how they see, so using Terezi safe cleaning supplies is a must. cleaning thoroughly and often are also ideal so as to keep them from getting sick from licking germs. Terezies love rules but more than that they love mysteries [despite having major conformation bias and not being very good at them] so rounds of clue/other mystery games will be frequent with a Terezi in the house. Terezies also have a tendency to become highly dependent on others so it’s important to foster a sense of self sufficiency when raising Terezies to limit the negative outcomes this could cause.
Aradias: White eyed Aradias are much less sensitive than their orange eyed counterparts. While deadpan, apathetic and monotone almost all the time, it’s important to check up on Aradias as they have trouble expressing distaste with anything. soft beds, good food, and nice company in moderate amounts are enough to keep white eyed Aradias from showing physical signs of stress but in order for them to be content caretakers need to work on an individual basis with them.
High Maintenance
Nepetas: These trolls have an insane hunting drive. Nepetas see animals up to three times their size as prey and will attack if not raised/enriched properly. However they are incredibly adorable and this often results in reckless black market adoption. Toys and shredable boxes with food inside are a must for any house with a Nepeta. They require scratching posts and often do well to have therapy cats. Nepetas also have a tendency to draw on the walls, as well as be heavily invested in the romantic pursuits of their caretakers.
Gamzees: Gamzees like to climb into tunnels, tubes, and ventilation shafts of all kinds weather easily accessible or not they will also climb/paint your walls regularly weather provided paint or not. Gamzees do not do well when their beliefs are challenged and are prone to violent outbursts when such challenges occur. they love to snuggle and hate to be alone, separation anxiety is a challenge most every Gamzee and their caretaker will have to overcome/adapt to. they enjoy juggling clubs and circus/fair paraphernalia and some Gamzees emanate constant carnival music with no off switch. [also be aware many Gamzee caretakers experience clown based nightmares]
Eridans*: extremely aggressive towards other trolls, Eridans also require designer brand everything or they will break out into hives from ‘the poor’. they are extremely sensitive, and don’t deal with rejection well so when raising an Eridan it’s important to provide a consistent, supportive, and lavish environment. Additionally, Eridans have fairly poor above water eyesight and require unique prescription glasses so be sure to take them to a troll ophthalmologist as soon as they leave the grub stage so they can see properly
Vriskas: insanely lucky but that luck applies to her own interests alone and will not help you. Vriskas need constant attention and frequent praise. Vriskas have the ability to put humans to sleep instantly so they pair well with insomniacs. It is however important to meet them on their level and indulge their ‘mind games‘ without that they quickly become bored and seek ways to undermine the rules. They enjoy playing with other trolls, but Vriskas also have a tendency to randomly attack their playmates so it’s important to keep and eye on them.
*Sea-dwellers are illegal to own in parts of the world with an average outdoor humidity of less than 60% and their homes must provide ample swimming space and be kept at at least 80% humidity. ANY LOWER AND YOUR SEA-DWELLER’S GILLS WILL DRY OUT AND THEY WILL SUFFOCATE/SUFFER OXYGEN DEPRIVATION. THIS COMES WITH SERIOUS MEDICAL REPERCUSSIONS FOR THE TROLL AND LEGAL REPERCUSSIONS FOR THE NEGLECTFUL CARETAKER
#homestuck#troll husbandry#karkat vantas#gamzee makara#sollux captor#vriska serket#aradia megido#tavros nitram#nepeta leijon#feferi peixes#eridan ampora#terezi pyrope#kanaya maryam#equius zahhak#mod nico
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when you see tavroses in the dream bubbles from a timelines that were more kind to you do you feel robbed in a way?
AT: wE WERE ALL JUST THE SAME LOWBLOODED TROLL TRYING TO LIVE OUT WHAT LIFE WOULD GIVE US }:)
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