#the situation is more complicated than this because many events happend before all of this but it would take me hours to write it all down

[ffriluftslivv]

me and my best friend liking the same guy from our class and our friend group and me deciding to let her have an opportunity with him because there's obviously smth between them and she deserves to be happy and still me telling her that im going to be just fine and it's okay to take my place:

actually me when she talks about him and how much they talked today (when ofc i wasn't at school because im sick) and how much they talk in general:

[padawanlost]

If you don't mind me complaining about something: I just happend to read some comments in a star was sub on reddit, and apparently some think that the clones knew about order 66?? and then there was some statement that cody doesn't really care about obi-wan and that he had always been more loyal to the republic than him?? like, did they miss everything?? it just bugs me so much. Do you think there's a reason behind this line of thinking? are they in denial of canon or something?

Yes, there’s a reason behind this line of thinking. Before the 6th season of The Clone Wars(2008) premiere the lore regarding Order 66 was clear: everyone knew about it, including the Jedi. 

Before season 6, Order 66 was simply one of the 150 Contingency Orders for the Grand Army of the Republic. The clones learned these orders in Kamino but they were not these super secret orders no one knew about. The clones knew about them and they were openly discussed in canon. So before TCW the clones, in fact, fully aware of order 66. 

Order 66: In the event of Jedi officers acting against the interests of the Republic, and after receiving specific orders verified as coming directly from the Supreme Commander (Chancellor), GAR commanders will remove those officers by lethal force, and command of the GAR will revert to the Supreme Commander (Chancellor) until a new command structure is established. —From Contingency Orders for the Grand Army of the Republic: Order Initiation, Orders 1 Through 150, GAR document CO(CL) 56–95 [Karen Traviss. True Colors]

Ordo had never understood it, either. He could recite any statute or regulation, including all 150 Contingency Orders for the Grand Army—which all clone officers had to know by heart—with all the ease granted by his eidetic memory. But making sense of rules was another matter. Why start a killing war if you were going to slam on the brakes and declare one way of killing someone morally preferable to another? [Karen Traviss. True Colors]

It’s not clear how much of this the Jedi knew but we do know they didn’t investigate the situation on Kamino THAT deeply so it’s debatable if they actually knew about these Order (or at least Order 66). Regardless, the clones knew about the existence of Order 66. 

As for Cody, yeah, this idea they had a super close relationship is fandom. I mean, TCW portrayed them as working well together but, before the chips became a thing, Cody had no remorse for trying to kill Obi-wan. Afterwards, he spent many years happily working for the Empire. So it’s not like Cody was a huge Jedi stan who spent the rest of his life mourning his former Jedi general. 

Cody was portrayed as a loyal soldier with orders and he executed them as he was trained to do. So, again, yeah, people aren’t wrong for saying Cody was more loyal to the government (Republic and Empire) than he was to Obi-wan. It’s not that the clones were malicious, they were in fact very loyal. Arguably, as loyal as the Jedi. and when they were told the Jedi were betraying everything they were srown to protect they reacted accordingly. It’s not that Cody didn’t like Obi-wan, but he was a soldier and he had government to protect. When the order came he did what he was trained to do, no personal feelings (the jedi way). I mean, he didn’t know the orders were coming from a sith lord, that he was being used or that Obi-wan was innocent. So he obeyed. 

This is why so many people are critical of the chip storyline, because it robs the clones of their agency and strips the story of so much complexity. It replace themes like loyalty, obedience, war crimes, politics, agency, etc with a simply ‘the chips made them do it’. In a way, it makes the clones more sympathetic but it also made them less complex. Instead of men forced into a impossible position we have living robots with no agency. It’s complicated but I get why they did it. the chips were much easier to explain on an animated show with limited time. I mean, the previous lore explored the issue on multiples platforms over many years. and the kind of introspection that works beautifully on novels and comics don’t always translate well to screen.

So, no, people are not ignoring canon or in denial. They are just going deeper into the lore :)

[through-thorns-to-the-stars]

One time I mentioned all other friends besides of my precious bestfriend left me, and I kinda feel like talking about that. It links with really... Dark times in my life. But first things first.

I met my bestfriend in middle school and I forgot to mention that because of my choice, she had to sit with one a little weird boy as we had uneven number of girls and boys. He was just a nerd, but you know how it is with kids, every difference is reason to call someone "weird". And as my bestfriend liked him with time, I started to spend time with him too during school periods. We even had some similar interest and it was cool to listen his monologs about old consoles and such stuff. As time went on my bestfriend suddenly recognized one girl from other class as their previous school friend and that's how our small group grew to four people. She was kind of nerd too, loved math, but liked anime too, soo we all had something in common. Especially we all were outcasts of our classes and when we sticked together we felt better ourselfs.

After middle school we all went to the same highschool, me and my bestfriend to one class, but our other friends to two different classes because of class profiling. It mostly didn't bother us, we even ended classes quite often and spend periods together, we also spended time after school together as before. But in our second year all sort of things started to crumble...

First, our math friend started to grew distant from us. Secondly I had crisis with my bestie, we argued almost all the time. I can't lie, mostly because of me. Those times were the worst in case of my family situation and I couldn't deal with it myself, started falling into real depression, didn't have energy for anything which resulted in worse grades, I felt like my bestfriend didn't understand me. I didn't want listen to them, also I was angry for this one math friend as she almost didn't had any time for us. And then the worst happend. To be honest, it started earlier, during our vacation, when I spended a lot of time with our male friend. I fell in love, with next few months, as cliche as it can sound.

It was probably my worst mistake. I tried to hide it, I argued with myself he's not interested, but as he was still close, it tortured me everyday. My self-esteem fell down even more, I thought he never would look at me in this sense. Want some more cliche, stupid teens scenario? There you go. He fell in love with our math friend. I felt unworthy him and tried to help him win her heart. She even had some feelings for him, but it got complicated and never worked. But most importantly it destroyed all my free will, my sense of self-worth, I had suicadal thoughts and started hurting myself. All stress I had because of my family problems, school, and now even friends gatherned in one moment. It was miracle I somehow ended highschool with enough results to start university, but inside I was ruined. After highschool those two friends cut contact with us, we sometimes met when there was occasion, like some kind of anime event, but for me they're almost like strangers now. In three years of university we met together probably ten times or less...

It took me around two years to get my shit together and start to feel fine with myself, more or less. As I said before, I still have "bad days", but now I feel much better. And I promised to myself I would never again let anyone make me feel as guilty, unworthy and miserable as I allowed them to do it. You may say: what they did wrong? Well, I let them know I need help many times, but they did nothing, too focused on their own bussines, except my bestie who tried to help my the best they could. That one friend I fell in love with even discovered what I felt, but the only thing he did was get away from me as much as he could. In few days after he completly stopped texting, even if before he had time to text with me for hours.

But I left it in the past now. Thankfully, as he changed later and now is a harsh asshole. Now I'm better than this. Now I want to focus on people who care about me, and I want to care about them, like my mother or my bestie. I'll never let myself be that deep in shit again. I promised it to myself. I want to live and be happy. That's it for now.

[typologycentral]

[SJ] Am I an ISFJ or ISTJ?

When I first took the test, I got ENTJ but I never got to analyze it, I just took as fun. Then I started taking it seriously, and found out that even though I may share some ENTJ's characteristics, I'm still far away of being one. I read all the descriptions in the 16personalities web page which in my opinion the test is to bias, but found myself to connect with the ISFJ by reading its descriptions and mostly its strenghts and weakenesses. Then I started to investigate more, and learn of the cognitive functions and started seeing them, at first I did not understand them very well since their explanations were to vague. I still have problem defining a concrete example of these. I also saw youtube video from a guy called Type Tips which shows some photographs of the different mbti types based on socionics taken by a Russian Psychologist called Filatova. My smile related the most to ISFp (SOCIONICS)/ISFJ(MBTI), but problem is my smirk isn´t that large, is a bit shorter. To make it simple: I usually don't like to take a forced direct picture, cause you either have to smile or be serious, so I rather smile to feel comfortable with myself. I prefer indirect photos that catch a real and not make-up event. My natural smile is closed, (I dont like to show my teeth) a small smirk and usually one side bit larger than the other. I could define it as happy and comfortable smile. Also tranquil eyes looking directly to the camera. Thing is when I was little I was so distracted that I did not even look at the camera but then started to learn to look at it when being taken a picture. My second relation to the Socionics smiles was the ISTJ but their smirk is littler than mine. Things about me that may help you determine my type? I like to write. I am not a professional writer as in I need to write better to consider myself an author. My stories are always inspired on something or sometimes it comes out of my mind. My stories are mostly non-fiction and I never apply feelings to it, it is more practical and sometimes I add a joke to it during the narration or dialogue between characters. I mostly narrate than make speech between the characters, as if telling an anecdote. Close relatives have said my stories are good, and to even prove it, I was ask in school to write a fanfiction and the best two students would win. Of course, the vote was from the teacher itself and maybe I was against rookies. I really want it the prize, and I got it. The teacher told me he likes the way I narrate. Writing comes easy to me, ideas. Once I start writing, ideas start coming in, sometimes I might get stuck. I have great grammar, and often correct my friend's spelling mistakes. I have great short-term memory for numbers (total payment, percentage in a test, etc.) but after two or three days I will forget it since it wasn't important. I can remember non important details in an event, mostly speech (someone said something but it wasn't that important) of course, I do not remember the exact words bu t know what it was about. I am passive agressive, and my moral alignment is neutral good. A friend once said that a thing she likes about me is that I am nice to everyone (as long as you don't hurt me physically is ok or deeply, it's ok). I like martial arts and like fighting but not in means of violence, so yeah, I hate bullies and always find peace before fight in a conflict. Fighting is just to practice and improve upon my martial arts skills which are really low. People such as bullies, law and rule brekers, rebels, immature people who don't care about their school grades, I usually think of them as stupid. If I was to have a friend who suddenly tries to do something I am against with adn then gets in trouble, I won´t defend him since it will be breaking a value important to me. I have my own set of values and follow the rules and like to take a few or absolutely no risks; if I do the opposite, I feel uncomfortable. With close relationships, especially friends and family(father, brothers sister, not including uncles, grandpas, etc.): I tend to listen but I am also eager to talk as in to share my opinion. I talk a lot since I extent myself too much or repeat words (I do not get to the point) (do not assume I may be an extrovert since I talk too much, I also listen since this helps me learn from people). With my close friends, I like to be funny and prank a little, without hurting phisically, not to molest my friends is just a way to entertain myself and show some happiness to them. I mean, I listen and formulate my thoughts and then speak when is my turn but since I don´t get to the point, my speech is too long. Also when speaking new ideas come in so I speak even more. Honestly I like to talk longer rather than be assertive and to the point. I must avoid repeating words or sentences as I just did above. I express my opinion and though on a certain topic easily among closed friends, in public I rather say something short and non important or say nothing. I value my closed friends and family. I feel hurted emotionally when being insulted, but I don't cry unless I feel guilty for myself or if I get hurt physically (realy hurt). I can sometimes being stubborn on trying to be right and defending a point of view. Once, I am proved with great logical argument and concrete evidence that I am wrong, I accept it and say sorry. I usually say sorry for everything when doing something wrong (of course when I know I was wrong). Another thing about me is that wnen in a conflict and argument, I interrupt when someone makes a bad assertion of me since I think it is unncessary since not being real and hate hearing things that are not real, but it is also my fault, and I must let the person finish. I am a patient and impatient person (depends on the situation and how many times it has happened and with whom). Other things about me: I like reading comics, and friends (I called some of them friends since I had a relationship with them before, but I do not talk them as usually as with my closed friends which are more important although family comes first, as long as they treat me good which as far as today, nothing uncomfotable has happended) in school regognize and say my name when I see them (maybe its because I was nice to them, and they appreciate it that). When a person is being hurted emotionally and mostly physically, I tend to feel uncomfortable and go to help that person and give him specific concrete advice as if to say "You must defend yourself, or you'll get hit harder". I help a person when he/she really needs it for example: The person drops something and it is out of reach, I pick it up and give to him. Someone forgot something, I keep it with me and give it until I see him/her. But for example, a person trying to fix a car but she is struggling, I won't be the type of person that asks "Do you need help? Can I help you?, I simply don´t help and ignore because I believe you need to learn to solve things by yourself and become independent. When friends ask me for advice which is rare, I give them advice based on past experience and what I think is the right thing to do, but honestly I prefer that people get me away from their personal conflicts (there is a reason why psycologists exist, and I am not one of them). I like chess, xiangqui, shogi, and basicaly strategy games that require a lot of use in the intellect. I hate strategy games that require economy and army maangement, I prefer implementing ideas meaning tactics and strategy. A perfect game of strategy would be one that requires the use of many weapons and the manipulation of the battlefield. When thinking, I hate being sitted down all the time so I get up and start moving around (in my house of course, outside I would be seeing weird), this mode of thinking energizes me and helps me think faster and ideas come easily. When I am interacting with my friends I dont think a lot, but when I am alone I tend to think a lot. I make up imaginary conversations set in the future about a certain topic with closed friends (not all) or family (not all) but usually dont happen. Sometimes I make this but in a past setting that already happened in real life but a few things were missed to say during that moment and day. I am not good nor so bad at future forecast, it simply isn't in my nature, but when I do make a future forecast, it is based on past experiences or things I have seen before. Some friends say I am weird and unpredictable. Maybe I am just not good socialzing. I have great grades, honestly school is easy if you really want to learn and care about your future. I use facebook rarely, mostly whatsapp which has an importan use. I have facebook since two , three, four, five years ago and have not posted a single thing. The only thing in my profile, is my profile picture (my first one and I have not change it) and very very few persons celebrating my birthday and me replying "thanks". I do not use Instagram, Snapchat or any other useless and boring social media. Twitter is not boring and useless but I do not like it, so I do not have it. One last thing to say is that ISFJ are easygoing, and I tend to be easygoing. When I am interested in a topic (very interested), I investigate a lot and stay addicted for a long time (could be months or even a year). I proscrastinate too much and usually do my homework late, since organizing a schedule for me is complicated since I have a hard time following it. I think this all I have to say: So, what do you think my MBTI is ISFJ or ISTJ? If you think I am another type besides the options I am providing you, feel free to type in. If you think I miss something, tell me please. It would be an honor if you could justify your answer, and please stay abscent from biased interpretations and myths about types. Sorry for the long text but I really want to know my type. Thank you for your answers. Have a nice day (If I was to talk in person I would smile here but I only use emojis with closed friends) and end all my conversations in a period and NO, I AM NOT ANGRY. So if I say OK. it means Ok without the period. Again sorry for the long text and thank you for your answers especially those that were justitfied with concrete logical examples and evidence. http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92052&goto=newpost&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=tumblr