#the second movie actually does remedy a lot of this by shrek giving her the choice to have him be a handsome human man
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man. i never comment on posts, but im going to be insane for a minute, ok? Ok. So people in the notes are talking about the first Shrek and I think that's kinda stupid ngl, always have. like the ending in the first one where she stays an ogre yes is good and I think applies to this but like.
the thing is that Shrek is ALSO an ogre? why would it be strange for him to find ANOTHER OGRE beatiful? it was a really nice twist that she stayed an ogre, but the point would've worked better if she was some different kind of magical creature seen as "ugly" instead. and if she ALSO stayed looking like that creature. but not ANOTHER FUCKING OGRE? which like of course shrek would find beautiful?? he's a fucking ogre?? now she's just the same species??
how is it subversive or strange that he'd find her beautiful. when I first saw the movie as a dumb kid, I 100% thought that the idea was that she was supposed to take the form of the species of person that loved her, and that's why she stayed an ogre, because it's that fucking stupid that it's apparently strange for him to "still" love her as an ogre, which he also is
people give that dogshit plot too much credit. she should've been some weird monster and stayed that way. but its like why praise the movie for how he loves her when she isnt a beautiful Human Woman when it would actuslly be Weird if he didnt like her as an ogre? you just Know DreamWorks wouldn't have let her stay a "monster" if she wasn't the most conventionally attractive an ogre can get and it sucks
Shrek 2 is better and actually fits the post nicely etc etc etc
too many stories about turning yourself into a monster as a metaphor for pretending to be something you aren't and losing yourself in the process. not enough stories about turning yourself into a monster as a metaphor for choosing to openly embrace yourself even if it's strange to other people
#sorry for being the most annoying commenter alive but#i know this is stupid and insane but#i feel like it speaks to beauty standards women are held to#like its somehow incredibly fucking subversive that he loves her as an ogre#when HE is a fucking ogre#im going to hit post and everyone can pretend this doesn't exist#to the point that he thinks shes talking about HIM when calling herself ugly#the second movie actually does remedy a lot of this by shrek giving her the choice to have him be a handsome human man#and she wants to be the way they were when they married#but like that only came into question later on after they were married#why was it so subversive that he still love her when shes not a beautiful human woman#literally they should've made her actually sone sort of wretched beast#instead its like. “i love you for yourself” and it was never really put into question anyways because he'd have to have a lot of#internalized self hatred to find another orc not beautiful#i cant fucking believe im talking about shrek's potential internalized ogrephobia or something#why is it subversive that a man not be Utterly Repulsed when a woman way out of their league turn out to be in the same league or smth?#and like irl you have the nastiest fuckers out there shit on women who they think are below them even if the guys themselves are similarly#not “conventionally attractive”#but they expect All women to meet Their Standards to be deceiving of respect#let alone attraction#at most you get a narrative where i guess shrek doesn't think other ogres are disgusting? good for him???#ok im hitting post#i apologize to everyone and esp op
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