#the most recent one was sirius and claire i wish i could put that here so bad ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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siriussunday ยท 1 year ago
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sirius in the background?! move over lime, it's
SIRIUS SUNDAY!
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noel-levine-fan ยท 4 months ago
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Witch's Heart Heights
So, I was playing Witch's Heart recently when I walked up to the the little thing in the fish fantasy space (the one where you go fishing with Monster Daniel) that is like... one of those boards with holes cut out so you can stick your head in them. One of the holes has you put your head into the face of a witch riding a broom, the other, a shorter one (probably meant for a kid) has you put your head in the face of a cat sitting on the broom with her. Hopefully you know what I'm talking about. I was playing as Claire, and her face fit pretty nicely into the hole for the witch's face. But when playing as Wilardo, I did it again and realize his head seemed a bit too high for it. Then I was like... Are the Witch's Heart character sprites different sizes?
That may seem like a silly question to ask, but I've played a fair share of games where all the sprites are the same size regardless of character height, and I hadn't looked closely enough at the ones in the game to tell whether or not it was the case, so I looked at all the sprites and found something interesting: there are 6 sprite sizes in Witch's Heart, ranging from 21-26 pixels tall (measured based on the character's front facing still sprite). (I wish I could demonstrate this to you, but I couldn't think of a way to show it without doing image editing...)
The other thing I noticed... is that it actually follows the canon height order. It made me wonder if perhaps I could use this 6 size system and their comparisons to the characters with canonical heights to determine a rough height range for characters we don't know the heights for, so that's what I'm going to do.
Note: I'm providing images of each character, and tumblr has a 30 image limit (when did they add that? I used to be able to post way more), meaning this post had to be split into two parts.
Disclaimer: Judging character heights by small pixel sprites like this isn't usually a good idea. Obviously, pixel sprites don't have much room to work with, so it can end up with various scenarios where the pixel heights don't line up with the real heights at all. As I said earlier, in some games, the sprites are all a fixed size so a character nearly a foot taller than another one has the same sprite size, sometimes the creator didn't compare sprites and didn't realize that the taller character ended up shorter than the shorter character in the sprite sheet (or maybe the shorter character needed more detail so their sprite was made slightly larger), and most importantly, sprite height differences just don't translate well to real height because they're so small. I've seen people judge fanartists for making a character much taller than another character just because that character is only 1 pixel taller in their mini-sprites, but like, there really would be no good way to represent a character being that much taller than another without making the sprite too big and messing up the way they play within the game (it depends on how big the sprites are, but in these cases they were fairly small). However, I find it appropriate to do here because we actually do have 9 canonical character heights and every single one of them does actually line up with the real height order of the characters, so we could at least determine a rough range.
With that out of the way, let's start with the heights we do know (from shortest to tallest) and which sprite size they adhere to.
Charlotte: 4'8" / 142cm - Size 2 (22px) Zizel: 4'9" / 146cm - Size 3 (23px) Rouge: 5'2" / 158cm - Size 3 (23px) Lime: 5'3" / 160cm - Size 4 (24px) Claire: 5'4" / 162cm - Size 4 (24px) Wilardo: 5'6" / 169cm - Size 5 (25px) Sirius: 5'7" / 171cm - Size 5 (25px) Ashe: 5'9" / 177cm - Size 6 (26px) Noel: 5'11" / 182cm - Size 6 (26px)
Okay, now onto the important part... The characters!!
Before we start, I just have to make a note: these measurements only work for human(-looking) characters with upright sprites. Nonhuman characters do not have a consistent sprite size and can't be included. I think the one I can't include that people will care about the most is Sheila, who as a mermaid has a sprite bigger than a lot of the human sprites despite (presumably) not being bigger than a human (at least I assume her head, torso, arms, etc are regular sized). Other than that, I've included every character that has the kind of sprite needed for this measurement, including ones that barely speak and nobody remembers. I also included past versions of characters, even if the past/present versions are the same height. Let's start!
(If you're wondering why some heights overlap in inches, for example, 4'9" being solidly a size 3 height but also within the range for size 2, it's because cm is a more precise measurement than inches. 145cm and 146cm are both 4'9", it's just that only 146cm and above are confirmed for size 3, 4'9" heights below 146cm are unknown. I hope this isn't too confusing... Some ranges that have cm just don't have inch equivalents for this same reason, 159cm is the only unaccounted for cm between Rouge's and Lime's heights, but 158cm, Rouge's height, and 159cm are both the same height in inches, 5'2", meaning there is an above range in cm but not in inches... Again, sorry if this is confusing, just trust me. Also worth noting that it seems like some heights in inches have been rounded up, Claire's height being 5'3".8 being rounded up to 5'4" and Charlotte's 4'7".9 being rounded up 4'8", so any height with a .8 or higher will be rounded up for the sake of consistency.)
Size 1: 21px
The shortest characters, and the only one that doesn't have any character with a canon height in this category. All that we know is that they are somewhere under 4'8" / 142cm because that is the maximum height of size 2.
Known range: None Possible range: 4'7" and under / 141cm and under
Characters: Child Claire & Child Noel.
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Size 2: 22px
The second shortest! For characters with canonical heights, this category only includes Charlotte, who is 4'8" / 142cm.
Known range: 4'8" / 142cm Possible range: An unknown amount under 4'8" - 4'9" / An unknown amount under 142cm - 145cm
Characters: Charlotte, Past Charlotte, Child Wilardo, Child Sirius, & Lilia.
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Size 3: 23px
Still on the shorter side, here we have two canonical characters, Zizel (4'9" / 146cm) and Rouge (5'2" / 158cm).
Known range: 4'9" - 5'2" / 146cm - 158cm Possible range: 4'8" - 5'2" / 143cm - 159cm
Characters: Zizel, Rouge, Young Thief, & Older Thief
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Size 4: 24px
Onto more average heights, we have two here: Lime (5'3" / 160cm) and Claire (5'4" / 162cm).
Known range: 5'3" - 5'4" / 160cm - 162cm Possible range: 5'2" - 5'6" / 159cm - 168cm
Characters: Claire, Lime, Past Lime, Dorothy, Fiona, Ashe's Mom, Coro, Coco, & Lucy
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Other characters that have no face sprite: Ashe's Classmates (Female), Nicholas's Maid (a different one from the brown haired one), Lime's Fellow Prisoners, Cinderella, Witch from Cinderella (her sprite is just slightly edited from Dorothy's), Cinderella's Stepsisters, & Cinderella's Stepmother.
Because of the tumblr image limit, sizes 5 and 6 had to be put into this post.
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