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I don't get my fandom. They want more queer rep. The main cast is a bisexual femme woman with a preference for women, an aroace gender-indifferent AMAB man, a genderfluid all-pronouns using AMAB person with a beard who wears a dress, and a biromantic asexual bigender AMAB man who is agender + male. The supporting cast has a lesbian girl, a middle-aged ace het woman living semi-romantically with another woman who is the main cast's (emotional) adoptive mom, and a ambiguously queer character whose gender is never really confirmed or discussed.
A big criticism I also see is "the writing team is all cishet". One, we don't know that, someone could be closeted. Two, why is that a problem? I think it's great that they went, "this makes sense for who this character is. We don't have to force them to be cishetallo just because that's what you normally see in animation. Web animation can be different. This is who this person is and that's fine."
I'm 19. I talked to my half brother, who is 38, about this and he actually choked on his coffee. He said when he was my age, nothing like this was easily accessible for him. It would have been jaw-dropping representation for him. I asked about the writers being cishetallo and he said, "who fucking cares? I would've moved Heaven and Earth to see these characters hanging out and just fucking existing back then!"
I know you get a metric fuckton of asks, but I'd love to hear your take on this. You've been in the queer community way longer than I have (I've barely started interacting with queer people IRL; I grew up in rural Wyoming) and I do wonder what this debacle looks like to people in other age groups. I'd also be curious to know what older people would've thought if they'd seen this friend group in media when they were younger. I know it means a lot to me. But I feel like I don't get what it would have meant back then.
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Well, written up like this, it might get an eye-roll for sounding like Captain Planet casting. (You know "One of A and one of B and one of C" in a way that feels kind of forced.)
But yes, I think most older queer people when looking at the actual canon would be like "Sweet! A cast full of queer characters!"
I grew up somewhere shockingly liberal for the 90s next door to some old, married lesbians (who still live there, as it happens). It still sucked for teenagers. I had an okay time, but I was always hearing about other teens having an awful time even as the adults in the same communities did okay. And that's a very, very good version of what it was like in the 90s.
I did have access to queer media, vastly more access than most teens had. It was still mostly art films, boring coming out memoir, and The Pain of Being a Minority serious literature. What I wanted was genre fiction with a romance b-plot between queer characters I found hot. There was a bit of that, but not much.
I don't know that I personally would have killed for the exact set of queer rep in a modern show, but that makes sense. There are plenty of identities that present about the same but where people have internal reasons for choosing one or another. There are different forces making one queer identity or another more embattled at a given point in time. So while broadly similar queer people have always existed, there actually are fads in identity to an extent. (This is different from "wharrgarbl, the blue hairs with their pronouns!!!", which is just people being ahistorical assholes.) Modern media does and should reflect these differences. It might be for me, but it's going to be for 40-something me, not teenage me if it's coming out right now. If it's for current teens, it's not for teen me.
But yeah, in a general sense, I agree with your brother: "Damn, we have so much today! That's cool!"
The kvetching is usually people being angry that it's not representing their exact slice of queerness instead of someone else's. Or, let's be honest, a lot of it is "You didn't make my ship happen! How dare?!" dressed up as activism.
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One thing I will say is that teenagers were extremely dramatic in my day too, and black-and-white thinking was just as common. Looking a gift horse in the mouth is not new. Yes, your fandom is full of idiots, but I wouldn't read too much into it.
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not the male ro anon (obv), but it feels always kind of strange to me when people ask for more or like even gender distribution in ro? like ik its bcs im a funky aroace, but first of all, the romance is a feauture not the main selling point. if there's no ro that appeals to you, the story (should) and their friendships can. like yeah, i also scroll down to the ro list and check everyone out, but if no ones my personal taste, im still playing the game if the premise and plot sound cool. like your writing is more than just the romance points. (maybe im a bit bitter on this topic bcs i deal/t with romance being the main and only point in every media ever, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.)
and you also dont have to stick to your taste. am i into women? no but i can make a character who is and i can still enjoy the romance of it. ik customization is a really massive part of if games, but it also offers the means to explore outside of your own identity. i think thats a big part of flavor texts too, seeing the small differences and how it changes the experience between different types of people.
and speaking from a coders perspective, maybe im just lazy (laziness is a lie and doesnt exist), but having to code the different pronouns and maybe even gender specific flavour text for gender selectable RO can be kinda annoying at times ngl. and i can absolutely understand why writers dont want to add gender selectable ro options because theres a lot of important differences in how people are brought up as, and the amount it could change someones character can be massive, we're talking like straight up two (or more) different people, just for one selection in an RO. and sometimes offering gender selection just doesnt make sense for the romance or the plot. not only does teddys sexuality but also gender play into his romance and character. it would not have the same meaning if we were allowed to change his gender.
and thats just like 3 points i personally can think of. and personally, genuinely, obviously no hate to the anon, i understand if its just a frustration of an perceived "imbalance" in ro, but authors have many reasons why they chose to offer the ro that they do, to make them gender selectable or not. and speaking from a readers perspective, sometimes we do feel entitled to ro, options and flavor, that the author knows wont happen. that doesnt make us bad readers, or authors bad writers and coders, its just something we have to remind ourselves of. "theres probably a reason for it".
I spent a bit of time considering which ROs could even have been switchable and I ultimately came up with Wil, Alistair, and CG. And with CG that would mean changing some of her background and tbh I kind of like Alistair being a guy and a more 'nurturing' type of character.
So yeah. idk. With Wil I felt like the opportunity was there to make them switchable and I decided to give it a shot since it'd be something I hadn't tried before (and let me include a character who potentially has neopronouns. but M!Wil was always gonna be a thing.
and agree that pronoun code is a pain in the butt.
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Bear Castle Cycle 2.0
(actually there has been at least 4 different versions but let's not go there...)
I have officially un-shelved BCC after almost 2 years of hiatus. At the time I was very frustrated with it and felt like I didn't know anymore what I wanted and what was it's point. Now I have rediscovered a passion for it. With more distance to the story, I can more easily see the darlings that need to be killed and where I want to take this story. I will be rewriting some of the worldbuilding and restructuring the plot. Hopefully I get back to drafting it soon.
I drew some of the most central characters as I was thinking about the fashion. There's no big departures from my previous ideas, but I have much clearer image about the fashion in my mind now, so mission succeeded. I will use this as an opportunity to do a little re-intro to the characters. There is some changes to them, some older (which I never publicly introduced) some I have done since I un-shelved this WIP.
Valeri cor Mantgamia (left)
he/him
Second youngest main sibling (25)
Accidentally becomes a spy but oops is the worst liar on the planet
Biromantic demisexual
Is in cavalry and there has all the homoromantic tension a man could ask for but is unfortunately the most repressed man
Is in for an existential crisis and unreasonable amounts of maiming (because he's my poor little meow meow)
Fiolev cor Mantgamia (right)
he/they
Youngest main sibling (19)
So in a much earlier iteration of the story he was a girl, but the character wasn't working out and I kinda made a whole different character, a boy, but I've still struggled figuring him out. You could say I transed his gender, so now he is transmasc
Valeri made him dress as a boy when they were kids and homeless, and while he doesn't see himself as a boy, he definitely doesn't see himself as a girl either and rather presents as a boy
Uses his ability to turn into a girl to con people though
Accidentally cons his way to being possessed by a demon and being part of a plot to start a civil war
Aroace
Faerathos cor Mantgamia (bottom)
he/him
Oldest main sibling (28)
He was supposed to be the one tragically cishet sibling... They were all cishet at first....
He is bi of course he is bi I'm incapable of not making my characters bi
Accidentally commits high treason by (accidentally of course) having an affair with the empress
Also commits high bi disaster by accidentally having a thing with the emperor too, his long time homoerotic friend
Agrippa noé Moireau (top left)
she/her
Tragically straight
Groomed to be The Long Lost Rightful Heir and The Chosen One
Is actually a tool of imperial control
Valeri's love interest
Cassia cor Mantgamia (top right)
she/her
Second oldest main sibling (27)
Plotting murder literally every waking moment
Spying for the enemy with the goal of overthrowing the government and murdering the imperial family
Targets Julie, who is partroned by an imperial prince, but accidentally catches feelings but oops she is bad at feelings (the whole family is very accident-prone)
Collected on the outside, disaster bi on the inside
Julie noé Maupin (bottom left)
she/her
Opera singer master duelist lesbian casanova occasional novelist
Has a dark secret
Does NOT want to get involved with any political shenanigas (gets involved with political shenanigans)
Cateline (bottom right)
she/her
Assassin to a criminal organization Fiolew gets entangled with
One-sidedly in love with their leader who has ambitions of power
Mute and communicates with writing
Bi
Marcus K'irhinzaham (left)
he/him
The commander of Mantgamia house guard, which now only consists of him, and (according to popular (and his) knowledge) Faerathos is the only one left to guard anyway
Widely recognized as the greatest swordsman of his time
Short king (169 cm)
Bi
Cúén "Fechín" cor Faélci (right)
he/him
Previously named Conan cor Faélin, the last name changed a bit because I did some changes to his language and his first name didn't really fit the language either
Known in the army as Fechín, because he is imposing as his dead cousin to spy for the Cabalusian independence army
Gay trans man (which makes his cover solid, people think there's only daughter his age in his aristocratic family)
An asshole especially to Valeri but oops they have to secretly work together now
Gid'alon Child of Stars (bottom)
they/any
Vašáin, Ahinian third gender, in their case it means they are intersex and non-binary
In exile after doing a little bit of heresy
Just wants to do their research on the spiritrealm but oops one of the demons they studied possessed Fiolew
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How do you feel about Will as bi rep (a major issue for me, a bi dude), is it okay or is it kind of the same as the rest of the book?
First, just let me apologize for the agonizing waiting time. This ask is from May 2nd. In my defense, it took me just that exact time to ruminate for the best answer and still I barely have any clue what I'm talking about. I'm not good at this. I'm really not.
Anyway. Back to the point.
At first glance, I think there's another thing we need to address before going into the details of Will as a bisexual. And that is the definition of what, exactly, is considered representation.
Because Idk about you but I have some criterias when it comes to representation.
Sometimes people just write/ draw/ talk/ etc... about something because they want to or they like, you know? It doesn't have to be representation all the time just because they mention it. They don't want to represent, they just want to... express themselves, so to speak.
Imo, if something wants to represent a concept, a community, whatever, it needs 1/ to be done with a certain level of dedication, knowledge, and awareness, 2/ have some focus on their distinctive traits, and 3/ leave a memorable impression on their consumers/ audience. As the main purpose of representation is to include and to show, you should definitely make your appearance count.
Now, do I consider Will's bisexuality representation?
Eh. I don't know.
Tbh I don't have much of an impression of that... I mean. I'm aware. And it's great that Bisexual Will is finally canon after so many headcanons. And that's all. The weigh of the fact is, well, that of a fact. It doesn't leave an imprint on me.
I, personally, don't have a problem with that. As in: I would understand if Rick just want to include a bisexual character (demigod. Bc we all know Apollo and the Greeks is the whole LGBT spectrum). It doesn't have to be something big all the time, really - Kinda like the way Malcomn Pace's, Paulo Montes's, or Jake Mason's sexuality is left up to interpretation.
So, let's just assume that Will is a bi rep. What do I have to say about this?
I'm assuming you're asking specifically about that part of Will and Persephone (since I don't recall anything else...), so I'm gonna follow that path. I just want to make it clear that:
-Whilst slightly baffled, I have nothing against Will being attracted to Persephone.
-I don't consider it a good choice as bisexual representation.
The first point I have explained in another ask that: as long as it makes sense and fits into the plot - as in, plot-wise, logically - I don't have problem with it, and Will's attraction to life as a whole isn't something new. The principle of what it means, however, is another matter which depends on how the events themselves progress.
The second point: I just... don't think being interested in your boyfriend's step-mother is a good choice for bisexual rep, you know...? Like. I mean. Gods this is hard. I mean you have to admit it's a little weird, to some extent. I have seen weird stuff my whole fandom life but even I were like. "Okayyyy hold up a little---" It's kinda funny, yeah.
Not mentioning blatantly admitting it to your boyfriend's face. And no, Nico's "bisexual chaos" does not help.
Of all the famales in a series and Rick chose Will's boyfriend's step-mother. Bold, really. I'd give him that.
In conclusion: I have to say that I'm not good at this, and I'm at no position to speak for the bisexual community. Though since you ask, I'd say that I, as a AroAce still trying to figure out myself, can't be happy with canon Will as a bisexual representation, and neither do I hold it against the author(s).
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have you read loveless? what are your thoughts on it?
I have read it! i have the book in spanish so the translation might not be perfect and i should read it in english
I liked it, i have a love-hate with the situation of the main character's sexuality being the main plot; I love the aroace representation, but it makes a big contrast with the other books from the osemanverse. I think it's great that aromantism is being treated with the same importance as romance would treat itself in a book about romance. I think we really needed this book but, yeah i just think it's not really Osemanverse material (because there's representation in every book but it's never really the main point, there are a lot of things happening and Alice's books tend to be like rolla coasters, which i love)
(it's not necessarily a bad thing for the book to be this different to the rest of Alice's books)
#loveless alice oseman#loveless#osemanverse#aroace#aroace representation#aromantic asexual representation
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Is there any intent to have the romance angle of the original ML present in this rewrite or have an actual big role?
This is actually a very good and important question.
In the original, the romance plots were everywhere and were made out to be integral to the story. For example, Marinette and Adrien, Chat Noir's crush on Ladybug, Marinette's """crush""" on Adrien, Luka and Marinette, Kagami and Adrien, blah blah blah and so on. I get it, they're all teenagers, but at this point in time It's gotten severely out of hand imo. I mean look at the hexagon memes, honestly.
There are going to be romance plots in Miracle and Plague, but they're going to be present for development of side characters or to show their progression while off-screen. Nino and Alya, Rose and Juleka, etc.
But then there's the question - what about Adrinette? You know, the plot that made Marinette the way she is, the one that was finally somewhat resolved after 10 years of production? I was going to say it in a separate post at some point, but might as well answer it right now :)
It will not be happening.
For reasons why I'm removing Jiayi and Adrien's romantic feelings for each other are easy! First of all, I've come to hate the constant romance that got in the way of the heroes PARTNERS' relationship and trust. It was infuriating how Chat kept asking Ladybug about the state of their relationship or Ladybug suddenly doing a switcheroo and attempting to flirt with Chat in the MIDDLE OF THE BATTLE Its been a displeasure watching those awkward ass scenes. Second reason, currently the most leading factor is that Jiayi is an aroace lesbian. This is her coming out.
But then, what is to become of the nuianced story of Marichatadrienbug 🥺 what will replace it?
The answer is simple.
Sibling dynamic.
Or platonic friendship.
No I will not be accepting complaints or returns.
To fully answer your question though, no, the romance plot will not be the main focus of the story. I personally think that If you're writing something, first write the BASE and then think about strong relationships (unless the story is a romance plot or the relationship is crucial to the plot itself. In Miraculous, It is absolutely not.)
Anyway, thanks for asking! 🐞✨🐈⬛
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For the Random WIP Ask Game:
11. 🌈 RAINBOW SLOTH: Wild card! Share one thing about your WIP that you have been waiting to be asked about!
And all of a sudden I’ve forgotten everything I’ve ever wanted to be asked…
Kidding (partially).
I initially wanted to post a whole paragraph about plot twist ideas/arcs for my WIP for this, but then again, I also wanna talk about APS fun facts, but then again again, the question is asking to share only one thing, so now I have to actually make a choice and commit. :P.
I think I’ll do the second option, so here are some random APS fun facts:
The very first version of APS was some novel I wrote 3 years ago that was set in Japan (I was a huge weeb at the time and it was so cringey) and the plot was wildly different and honestly so convoluted. I tried to take the premise of “superhumans discovered by government and go through dystopic hell” and “secret underground superhuman organization that basically fights off ‘bad guys’” and mush them together. Turns out, you can’t have two main premises at once (at least for me). One of them could have been a side-premise/subplot of sorts, but nooo. I had to mash them together and squeeze them into one book to the point where the plot switched from one plot idea to the next (ex: I set up the story as a “superhumans discovered by gov’t” plot and then completely flipped it on its head and forgot the other premise halfway through). It was a hot mess. A flaming mess. I deleted that book entirely and decided to change everything about it (except the title). That was a much better decision.
Caster was supposed to be the love interest of another random side character. Decided against it later because I don’t wanna center the story too much around romance. Caster’s also aroace and not interested in any kind of relationship, it wouldn’t really be fitting anyway. Idk, the idea just didn’t stick.
There was supposed to be a scene in chapter 6(?? Was it 6?) — the one where there’s a street brawl and someone chokes and dies — where Talia actually steps in to do something. All she manages to do is splash water in one of the perpetrator’s/instigator’s faces. I only wrote that because I thought it was funny, but I took it out later because it created a big character inconsistency
APS was supposed to be a book series with dual-POVs throughout (ex: Caster and Talia for the first book, Melissa and Cassian for the second, etc. etc.) I eventually scrapped that because the second POV either became useless to the book or it could have another whomp story all by itself without sharing the story with a perspective of another character.
At one point, I planned APS to be a 6-10 book series with so many fucking prequels and sequels and companion novels. I scratched that entirely because, seriously, it was so unnecessary to have that much for no good reason at all. The plot would be too stretched and convoluted if I kept it as a 6-10 book series, and after revamping the plot events, I realized I only needed three books to tell the whole story.
To build off the previous one: I do have a slight “spinoff” series of APS called APP (A Powerful Past). It’s more of just individual books covering pieces of backstory/lore in more detail, but that’s a side-series, so it’s pretty much it’s own thing. I’m only gonna work on it after APS is finished, so for now, the most I do to work on APP is to add to any thought dump pages.
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I think, for me, the most offensive time someone tried to claim a character is "x-coded" is when someone who claimed to be my friend kept claiming the main character in my last fandom was "aroace-coded", "SO aroace", "HYPER aroace", and insisted that it was 100% intentional and if the creators knew what being aroace was back in the 80's-90's, they would have declared her aroace outright.
...Ignoring the fact that I identified as aroace. (That person was asexual, but in a "ew sexuality is so gross u-u" kind of way, which also leads me to not trusting them on ANYTHING regarding sexuality. They also couldn't interpret anything for shit either, despite claiming that "writing is objective" and to have perfect objectivity on everything, no matter what.)
Ignoring the fact that the series's entire plot hinged on this character being constantly flirted with and proposed to. So, if the character DID finally agree, the series would end.
Ignoring the fact that every single side material in existence during that portion of the series would pair that character up with people, or confirm a multitude of crushes they had on members of the opposite sex.
Ignoring that the only LGBTIA+/queer rep in the games were the ever-popular mixing up of gay/trans people and thoroughly mocking them, making them into really offensive stereotypes, and so on. So, if the character WAS intended to be aroace, there'd probably be lots of jokes about "fixing her", or otherwise it would be used to further the fact that her main love interest was truly "the one" for her (it was reaaaallly heavily shipped, to the series's detriment at some points).
Also that overall feels way less real when someone else is able to talk about how much they view that character as a lesbian and how much they ship her with other girl characters, and THAT gets encouraged, and "oh I love your writing so much!!!"'s, but when I talked about my ship (the canonically teased one that was m/f) it's "I just think she's aroace u-u" "She's aroace-coded though u-u"
(Fun fact! Same person that insisted the 1 canonically bi character later on is actually gay because it's "uncomfortable" for him to show attraction to a female character!)
Also, I think the most damning, is that Coding is really specific to America and things that were showed in America during a specific time period. It's based on the Hay's Code, where, if you wanted your movie on the big screen, being queer was seen as something that either needed "fixed" by the end of the movie, or the character in question had to be killed if not fixed. That's why so many villains are queer-coded; villains weren't allowed to live either, and so, you might as well just make your villains queer if you wanted to have a queer character at all. Then you wouldn't have to get emotionally attached to a whole 'nother character just to kill them. (There wound up being something similar for comics, too.)
The Hay's Code ONLY affected things that were shown in America.
It WOULD NOT affect a Japan-only video game that was never localized into America, and was never planned to be. Plus, Japan just...doesn't really "code" characters? In my experience, Japanese media's pretty fucking free when they want to add gay characters or characters whose "only love" is [not a person]. They're not always the greatest at representation (perfectly capable of being as vile as depictions in other places...obviously), but I can only think of a few sparse examples of them just...hiding a character's orientation behind vague hints.
The person who insisted that Coding is an actual thing that can be applied to any piece of media for any reason (their reason in this case being that they just FELT it, they felt it VERY STRONGLY, so clearly it must be true and intended!!!) was not American, had not ever experienced anything to do with the Hay's Code, and only had their own word to go on.
Anyways, this is a really long-winded way of saying I hate "coding", I hate that fandom as a whole got its grubby little mitts on the fucking term, I hate the fact that people can't just admit they have a headcanon anymore, and they can't allow anyone else to have differing headcanons. (Not that THAT part is anything new. God forbid.)
Also sick to death of the double-standard. This is not the first time I've shipped something that's genuinely canonically teased or outright canonical (I'm a bit of a basic bitch when it comes to my starting ships) and someone INSISTED the character couldn't POSSIBLY like the other character, but a different ship was completely and totally fine. (Also insisting that this character's aroace, that character's gay, and that character's also gay, but I say my favorite character is pan and I don't think there's any real contradiction to that? "They can't be pan! That's weird. That's weird of you to say that :(")
#chaotic rants#not important#sorry i just...thought about All That again and im mad about it#also i hate 'minor-coding'#'minor-coded' and 'family-coded' arent a fucking thing#stop trying to make it a thing#just say you don't like the ship in question and fuck right off#im going to chew through drywall if i keep seeing people say#that certain characters in my current fandom are 'minor-coded'#i s2g
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I love your fanfic!!! I love how soft and cute the 1897 gang are!!!!!! Aksbaksbakaksmsksksns 🥺💕
What are some plans you have for the fic? Will there be any lgbt or neurodiverse headcanons in the fic?
AWEE YAY THANK YOU!! 💕💕 This means so much I got so happy seeing this notification aaa!! I’m glad you love the 87 boys,,
Also aa thank you for asking! (this. Turned into such a long answer I’m so sorry for rambling AHA)
One big plan I feel comfortable talking about is that I am going to send the remaining 2012 boys to Rise soon! I feel like that’s not too spoilery, both because it’s something that will happen soon and something that was kind of inevitable pfft. I have some cute moments for them to all get to bond, I have a big overarching plot and stakes I want to introduce? But I also really just want to have a ton of fun moments and focus on everyone getting to know each other. I want to try write interactions or dynamics I haven’t seen been done much yet, so hopefully I deliver! (I actually scripted out a 12!Raph and Rise!Leo scene for in future this morning pfft)
Another thing I guess there’s no harm in saying is that I want 87!Shredder and 87!Krang to really play a main part in this! They’re the versions of those characters I find the most fun/easy to write, so at least for the beginning stages they’re going to be focused on antagonistic forces. I just think they’re so goofy I love their dynamic sooooo much, and they fit my writing style perfectly! So expect them in future eheh
That’s not to say Rise and 2012 villains won’t get a centre focus at any point though! Rise has such a fun rogues gallery and with 2012, I really want to play with the domino affect, I mean taking the turtles out of the picture right before so many major things has gotta have some consequences~ (they don’t even know April’s part Krang yet…)
When it comes to LGBT headcanons, I do definitely have some! Technically?? I think I’ve already said that everyone is somewhere on the aroace spectrum (especially the Rise turtles) I also find the idea of 2012!Donnie and 2012!Leo being nonbinary in some form sweet, so I will probably have little moments about that scattered through the fic! (Also I think it would be really funny if 2012 Leo and Dee both went to other universes and then when they finally reunite they’re both not cis anymore. Spider-man pointing meme the dimensional radiation took their fucking gender-) I typically don’t think too much about this kind of thing though, I’m someone who’s LGBT+ that doesn’t bother too much with labels for themself so it’s honestly kind of hard for me to put fictional characters in a box too-but everyone definitely is in someway! That’s the best I can answer that probably
TLDR: They’re all loser teenagers who haven’t realllyyy figured themselves out yet, but they’re all pretty comfortable with whatever their identities might be, so for now they’re just gonna focus on saving the world HA
As for the neurodivergent side of things, again the whole main cast definitely is!! We all knew that though ♥️ AHSAJHA I can find traits from my own diagnosis in basically all of them, so they’re all on the spectrum! Sobs sorry this is another pretty broad answer-so to list someeeee?
I’m definitely writing all four 87 turtles and 2012!April and 2012!Raph with being autistic in mind! 2012!Donnie as well, but also apparently he does canonically has OCD?? I don’t 100% know if that’s canon, but I will be keeping that in mind while writing him as someone who also has it. 2012!Leo I headcanon along those lines too-it-see this is why it’s hard for me to answer none of these kids are neurotypical in my mind-
Sorry these were such non answers AHA, I guess the easiest answer is yes there is? But I’m genuinely happy with them all being up for interpretation! I won’t be enforcing many of my headcanons on the story really, just writing what feels natural, so you guys can interpret them however you want from there! I don’t really want to lock anyone in because I don’t want to stop people from being able to see them in ways that make them happy same as they can for the original shows
#♥️♥️♥️!! thank you for asking!!#gosh I need a tag for this fic don’t I. WHY did I make the title so long#for future reference AU
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for the ask game <3
10 . WHEEL OF FORTUNE: A TURNING POINT (What was the turning point in your writing career?)
52. THREE OF PENTACLES: TEAM WORK (Who will you thank in your acknowledgments?)
53. FOUR OF PENTACLES: FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE (Do you or would you write full time?)
54. ACE OF WANDS: NEW GROWTH (How do you grow the seed of an idea into a full story?)
10. WHEEL OF FORTUNE: A TURNING POINT (what was the turning point in your writing career?)
i do not have a writing career because no one has ever professionally read my writing. the turning point in my writing journey? probably having the revolutionary realisation that i could write small scale stories. big plots always stopped me before the story could even get started, now i write character-driven low fantasy plots about small casts of characters and i'm so happy as a writer for it.
52. THREE OF PENTACLES: TEAM WORK (who will you thank in your acknowledgments?)
@rxinbowbright and @chaoticdecember, without them half of my stories wouldn't even exist. they are getting dedications in more than one of my books. would also thank my best friend for letting me read my stories out loud to hear her opinion. and my sister! just because. i am dedicating evergreen lung to him because we both really needed an aroace coming-of-age story but never had one.
53. FOUR OF PENTACLES: FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE (do you or would you write full time?)
no! my brain and creativity reservoirs cannot handle it. i do want to publish my books but i do not want to make it my full-time job. my real aspiration as far as professional career goes is to be a museum curator.
64. ACE OF WANDS: NEW GROWTH (how do you grow the seed of an idea into a full story?)
imagery is my main driving force. i usually always start from an aesthetic or atmosphere or a collection of images. then i try to build something around it that would excuse it. haze dogs, for example, came to me entirely through imagery. disasters to sleep through as well. then what i do is sit down and... start writing. because of the way my writing works, with long-winded explanations and specificity, i slowly start to form something out of nothing. scrolling through pinterest helps a lot too for the same reasons, imagery. there is also the simple practice of just putting everything you like into the bowl and see what sticks. it's how i brought ángel into haze dogs which helped the story a lot because his family is what sprung the idea of cults. it's how we got the eldritch critters in disasters to sleep through, they were inspired by philip pullman's dæmons except make them a little horror.
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please PLEASE tell me literally anything about your ocs im so insane about them. please i want the infodump.../nf
ohoh oh oh im. i am Very Very So Excited that someone cares about my little guys!! m thinking of making a blog specifically for them cos theres WAYYY too much to put in one post [and i have no fucking clue where to start-]
i also just realized ive been working on this story [on and off] for literally over half my life.
i really really have. no idea where to start so ill just introduce the main(??) character [also the one i project onto the most B)]!! (and some stuff about what the story Means to me cos. i think. a lot.)
this is sage!! they/she [and also it/its at a later point] pronouns, THE hopeless romantic aroace Ever, autistic with plant and art spinterests, and Very Very lonely. they spent a large amount of their adolescence isolated due to fucked up world stuff, basically all human contact being from her brother nathaniel (he/him), who was very focused on researching the Monsters [a whole other big thing ill talk about in a different post] and didnt pay attention to her. this lead to very intense people pleasing tendencies and thinking of love as something that has to be earned. when they finally make a friend (oliver (he/they)), the relationship is strained due to both their traumas, the strangeness of their environment as a whole, and, yknow, the fact oliver is actively turning into a Monster and Will Die. and he does die, but not in the expected way ;)) [nate straight up murders him!!]. sage is infected with the same [disease??] that turns people into Monsters, and runs away. andd then the plot gets blurry and i dont. quite know Whats Happening :,)
the story as a whole is very focused on the Monsters and the process of people turning into them [a very direct allegory to (my) trauma/disability], and exploring [my relationship with] the concept of Humanity and how [my] queerness, trauma, and autism affect it. lot of body horror and generally shitty people B)
Wasnt getting the Special Interest Chemicals for this story for a bit but now it’s back full force and it. genuinely means the world to me that someone else cares about these ocs rhrhrhrhrhnvjdh <3 <3 <3
#oc#ocs#original characters#autistic rambling#tw death#autistic artist#special interest#i spent an hour trying to make this readable rnrnhrmrh :’))
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let me add some more into the mix:
gravity falls, a beloved childhood show, where they allowed:
a room of decapitated animals to have blood flow out the eyes and mouths of each animal, filling the room to where only the characters heads stuck out.
monsters that were basically nightmare fuel putting it as light as possible.
an episode where the main character is kicked out his body and watches as the demon possessing him continuously injuries him (smashing his hand in a drawer, throwing him down a flight of stairs, etc).
the main villain, bill cypher.
the petrifying of hundreds of adults and using their bodies to create a throne.
side mc a gets threatened by his brother, side mc b, with a fucking crossbow.
the hot air balloon scene (look it up if curious).
giffany. just giffany.
pretty telling showings of serious topics (bad relationships with family, isolation and desperation, how younger kids can have crushes on older girls, stuff like that).
several adult jokes (mentioned for "family-friendly" content).
one of the main characters having lots and lots of crushes on boys and the other having to come to terms with how his crush on side mc c (an adult woman) would never work out.
the line "ive got some kids to turn into corpses."
many, MANY zombies.
implied character death and several near-death experiences.
these and more, but didnt allow...
(ill just use names now, sorry for spoilers) dipper to be ftm trans.
the love god to wear a rainbow flag on his necklace.
2 random old women to be shipped together (no plot relevance, they were nameless side characters).
actually confirming the relationship between a sherrif and his deputy (both men, implied at the end of the show).
AND PROBABLY OTHER STUFF TOO! while i do hate twitter, it does actually hold a treasure: actual corrections disney wanted to gravity falls, and alex hershe's (creator and voice actor of like half the show) real time responses! (i wont put a link simply because twitter, but ill try to find a way to just download the vid and put it here later)
thats just the tip of the iceburg, lets go onto the owl house.
it had basically all gravity falls had (minus children having crushes on adults, specific scenes/characters/events/lines i pointed out (ie. giffany or bill), zombies, major boy obsessions [mabel level], and they have possession but not like how bill did to dipper) and more!
several fight scenes, having characters transform into monsters, showings of abusive behavior and its effects, and other things. so why was such a successful show cut down to 3 seasons? because luz was confirmed to like amity. disney couldnt handle that shit, and shot it down (it also probably HATED that raine was non-binary, lilith was aroace, willow was pan with 2 dads, hunter was bi, and luz was bi, plus any other confirmed things i never knew). if the "violence" in the battles was what got rid of it, then it would have went sooner. NOT JUST THAT, BUT TO JUSTIFY THEIR SHUTTING DOWN, THEY PROCEEDED TO POST SPOILERS FOR THE FINAL TO GET LESS WATCHING! why? so they didnt seem homophobic and they could go "oh look it has less traction now! see, thats why its gone!" (this i cannot find for sure information, i heard it from a very trusted friend who was/is also a big fan of the show) in the end.
not enough to convince you? lets talk about the "same sex" kiss in buzzlight year. while, yes, im glad for the representation, it was really only added AFTER disney was called out for only showing pride support during pride month. and who could forget the headlines? they fucking supported the "dont say gay" bill, then acted like it was some fucking accident. "maybe they didnt know what it was about?" the name itself was pretty fucking obvious.
also, there is gay erasure too! for a while, i solely believed it to just be suggested by past stories that the little mermaid was a gay love story, but with a quick search, several articles confirm it. the thing that really ticked me off? the name "ariel" is a unisex name (or it works for any gender), but the more feminine way is spelled "arielle" while the masculine way is "ariel", which got me thinking and surely enough, the author was gay, having written the story the same year his male crush was engaged with a woman. the story (as well as others hes written) have tones of unrequited longing love from what my research has told me. and yes, i did find an online copy of the original story by hans christian andersen, enjoy it!
theres probably other things i didnt cover, but disney has faked playing both sides for too long, when they always have stood on one with a fishing pole and a cardboard cutout of that rat on the hook, tossing it over here whenever they felt like it.
spread it out, disney is not our ally.
reminder that corporations don't care about you and they never will
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jay. 26. asian. they/them. pan-aroace.
hi! this is a space for me to nurture a personal project of mine: a fictional story set in a world inspired by the 1880s amerikan “west”.
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as I adore fantasy/outlaw adventures, and misfit friendship tropes, I’m interested in incorporating elements of low-fantasy + gothic fiction + real material drawn from this time period.
I’m a big nerd for research and write a lot of non-fiction stuff offline. I’ve never written anything creative for anyone before so this is me having a go because why not! my offline life works with histories of Other-ness and legacies of imperialism. with this lil’ project of mine, I’d like to challenge: 1) the domination of cis, white, heterosexual, machismo in the “western” genre; 2) the romanticization of the “cowboy era” that overlooks slavery, genocide, racism, dispossession. “Taming the wild frontiers” literally required the dehumanization and extermination of Indigenous peoples from those Lands; the oppression and exploitation of racialized labour to build towns, railways, businesses… etc. I am keen on working this reality into my fictional world—subtle dark humour as commentary? main plot points? idk yet we are workshopping
that said!! I indulge in writing random “cowboy”-themed writing/drawing prompts from time to time (see tags below) the fictional concept of a cowboy in the popular imagination is so camp lol like a pirate
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“cowboy” is a gender neutral on this blog
I am taking up this corner of the internet to build a safe and creative space for myself. in these parts: we are for the total liberation for palestine; we are anti-zionist, anti-racist; we support land defenders and indigenous struggle for sovereignty; we support armed resistance of all oppressed peoples. don’t agree? keep it moving. i’ve no tolerance for bigotry or hate. get off tumblr and read a book.
there is no nsfw content (i.e. explicit nudity, sex, violence, gore) here. I will not engage in conversation or posts with nsfw content. blog warning for guns, knives, animals (horses), and themes of death and religion. I have a potty mouth and use it frequently.
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characters, meet the cast
the story, shorts and other scribbles
updates, mapping my chaotic imagination
things to check out while you're here:
yeehaw prompts / cool cowboy stuff / gothic west / more stuffs
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Why you should watch "Die Rosenheim-Cops"
As described in English even though the show is German because I want to reach all of my mutuals. Language shall not be a barrier. Also, I feel like I can convey this stuff better in English. If you like stuff like Midsomer Murders, this is for you. I started making this post during summer break but never got to finish it. Well, now I finally did.
The Formula
The structure of the story is mostly the same for every episode. Someone finds a body, we switch to the office where the call is taken, the inspectors are informed and at least one always arrives late. Then the forensics expert gives some basic info and interrogations start. Usually, there's a more comedic or lighthearted B-plot to the main murder plot. Sometimes, it's more relevant and focused on, sometimes it's just there to make everything feel less stiff and repetitive. Then, both plots work towards conclusion, the murder plot with lots of zigzags and twists and turns as more and more is uncovered. Each episode ends with the culprit being found and a final fun banter freezeframe.
The Characters
Aka the main reason for watching the show, all pictures are from s08e15
Korbinian Hofer
One of the core three that have been with the show from the very beginning
Has a farm that he works at on top of investigating
Bickers with his sister a lot
Sassy
The more serious one, but just because he's more experienced
Doesn't take shit from anyone
Pretty stereotypical Bavarian, think Schultz from Hogan’s Heroes but smart
Aroace vibes
Older brother of the entire homicide squad
Sven Hansen
This isn't actually from the episode but I found this picture and thought it captured his essence well
One of my favourites
Originally from Hamburg
Regularly struggles with the Bavarian dialect and culture
The good-looking gentleman bastard
Did I mention good-looking? He wears a suit 99% of the time and has an expensive taste. Sadly doesn't have a bloody suit moment yet though. He's the Sanji/Face/Hogan/Hugenay of the show
Second-oldest brother
Loves to go sailing (and apparently becomes a bit feral when competing in races)
Sir, you’re bi
Best friends with the owner of the fancy bar/restaurant in town and regular customer there. Like, can he even make breakfast for himself?
Ladies' man
Gets really, really sassy, snarky and passive-aggressive if you annoy him
Miriam Stockl
Sassy secretary
Secretly the inofficial boss of the homicide squad because if she refuses to do her job, everything comes to a stop
Absolutely LOVES gossip
In charge of the coffee machine and cookie jar. Also has tea and even hot chocolate
Sucks up juicy details and drama like a sponge and then redistributes it, usually wildly over-interpreting it
Really kind if you don’t annoy her
The Bob Andrews of the show, does 90% of the research
Big sister of the squad
Girlboss
Michael "Michi" Mohr
Golden Retriever vibes
Literally so wholesome
Always all over the vibes
Smart but also really dumb
Huge dork
Always doing his best
Gets super excited if he finds out some important info and has the inspectors basically beg for him to reveal it to him
Stockl's gossip buddy
Little brother of the group
Definitely not straight
Peter Shaw of the show, as in points listed above and the occasional "den schnapp ich mir!" Has a slightly higher success rate though
Gert Achtziger
The de-facto boss of the entire station and all its departments
Dad of the squad, as in he has to put up with their nonsense but also switches between scolding them and pretending to scold them like a metronome, tolerating or sometimes even supporting the nonsense
Serious but can also be goofy
Constantly stressing about either his boss or the music academy
Sometimes also investigates because he misses it
Friends with Hofer's sister
Marie Hofer
Korbinian's sister
Really nice, generous
Bickers with her brother
Hardworking both on the farm and in local politics
Becomes part of the city council, responsible for the music academy
Besties with Stockl
Ties to the city's high society, regularly has important information for the case
Girlboss
Patrizia Ortmann
Honestly a bit of a bitch. Or a lot.
In charge of the finances and absolutely done with everyone's nonsense
Hates Hansen but they also have a romance storyline??? I remember I shipped them the first time watching the show, but now I'm just... no??? She has to get her attitude checked first
Literally so petty, but get her on your side and whoever you're up against has already lost
Queen of Sass
Probably has the most braincells out of the cast
Has to do most of the paperwork, including Hansen's "business expenses" which... I can’t imagine how frustrating that has to be
Ingnaz "Jo" Kaspar
Owner of the local fancy restaurant/bar called Times Square
Honestly kind of pathetic
Always manages to somehow get in trouble
Involved with most big events in or around the city because he's doing the catering, providing the drinks, helping out as a waiter...
Shit goes down in Times Square. Whether it's drama or interrogations or just Jo overhearing important stuff or having the main subject sit in his restaurant, there's always something going on
Can't keep a girlfriend for more than 10 days and falls in love in a heartbeat
Knows every customer by name, the girls usually by first name
The Scenery
The whole show plays in the city of Rosenheim and its surroundings. So, if you like older buildings, mountains, lakes, you'll like the aesthetic too
There's just one issue:
The show is in German only. I haven't found a source for English subtitles yet either. BUT if you understand German, I'd definitely recommend you watch it. Additionally, if you don't and you ask me nicely, I might even be able to dig up my old hyperfixation energy and write subtitles/a translated script for one of my favourite episodes. Or one of the best-rated ones. The show is on IMDb after all, so you could browse and see which one you like. Third of all, I might also translate my fanfic to English, who knows.
Anyways, self-ad over, essay over, have a great day!
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MORE AUDIOBOOK THOUGHTS:
The Magicians: ok. you KNOW im a big fan of this book. but man. the narration was kinda dull? like it was fine for a shift but i wasnt all that interested. got through like half before dropping it (specifically i got right up to the end of the breakbills south. THAT part was fun just because of myakovsky but it wasnt enough to make me want to continue.)
Murderbot Diaries books 1+2: Honestly, im not typically a huuuuge fan of Kevin R Free as an audiobook narrator most of the time, but honestly? He pulls off this series really well. Most of what i DONT like about his reading actually work here. It also helps that the murderbot diaries are just REALLY good.
The Raven Cycle books 1-4: HOLLLY FUCKING SHIT. MAN. i grabbed the raven boys on a whim because i had the 3rd murderbot diaries book on hold, and i remember liking it when i was younger. and HOLY FUCKING SHIT. these were the best fucking audiobooks ive gone through so far. Will Patton is fucking PHENOMENAL. Not ONLY are all the character voices distinct and clear, but the fucking NARRATION has a different tone depending on the POV character (to the point where i could IMMEDIATELY tell which POV it was based entirely on the voice), and he ALSO pulls off characters changing accents/tones of voice (which happens pretty often and is relevanr for character development and occasionally plot). Story itself was also even better than I remembered. This is now one of my favorite book series of all time without exaggerating. I already want to go back and listen to these again. Thats how good it was. If my talking here convinces you to listen to any of these, make it the raven cycle. Its really fucking good
The Dreamer Trilogy book 1 + half of book 2: Also narrated by Will Patton (sequel series to the raven cycle), so still has fucking PHENOMENAL voices and narration and all that. I want to like the dreamer trilogy sooo bad but i just cannot fucking STAND Bryde. Ill probably finish the trilogy i just need a break for a while. This is, after all, the longest ive stuck to a single series without anything in between. Call down the hawk was REALLY good, which i think is partially because Bryde doesnt become a major character until Mister Impossible lol
The house in the cerulean sea: It was.... alright. Narration was a bit weird at points (ie a few moments where i was thrown off because the inflection just didnt fit the context) but it was overall passable. Distinctive character voices, which was always a plus. Story itself was fine- some points were trying a bit too hard to be funny, but it wasnt too insufferable once i got used to the vibe. Lots of therapy speak from small children felt kind of unnatural and got a bit annoying at points, but i think the way it was read managed to at least somewhat pull it off, especially since all the kids had funny voices (REALLY hard to take all the emotional stuff seriously because of that, which was a good thing.) Magic system was kinda weird? But eh, it was fine. Cute story.
In the lives of puppets: DOGSHIT. did not make it past chapter 1. Prologue was mildly interesting, but the tone was immediately brought out back and given the ol yeller trilogy. Made me realize that T J Klune (same author of house in the cerulean sea) only has 2 jokes: kid/creature/innocent making extreme threats of violence, and just the most unfunny sex jokes in existence. Same narrator as house in the cerulean sea, but i dont think any narrator couldve saved this one.
Dear Wendy: picked this one up after scrolling thru available books, synopsis seemed mildly interesting? Stopped almost immediately once realizing that this is way too gen z for me. Specifically i mean that its like very social media focused and i also couldnt get past the fact that its focsed on like. Instagram dating advice. Like the whole pitch for this book is that the main characters are both aroace thats why i grabbed it in the first place. i dont give a shit about instagram drama. idk for all i know this book is perfectly fine it just managed to immediately lose my interest lol
Murderbot book 3: FINALLY OFF HOLD THANK FUCK. A FRESH WATER POND RECOVERED IN MY MAYONAISE LAKE OASIS
my thoughts on the stuff ive listened to during work; note that im not basing my reviews on how good the actual book is, its based on how my personal experience was to listen to the audiobook while working in the lab
Animorphs books 1-3: i read this series as a kid but only once, so i was familiar with the story enough to not get distracted but i had forgotten enough of the details to be kept engaged. Voice acting was fine, tolerable to listen to, character voices distinct enough to differentiate without being annoying (albiet with at least one exception). Biggest issue is length- since my shifts are 8 hours, i got through the first 3 books in a single shift, and the specific version i was listening to was split up into a handful of short parts each book so i kept having to switch to the next video, which was way too much of a momentum-stopper (and work interruption) to stick with this series specifically.
The Witcher books 1+2: eh. was fine enough. once again this was something i was familiar enough with to follow without having to worry too much about missing details, while also being somewhat entertaining. i think i liked it a lot better to read than to listen to. voice acting was fine. biggest issue was that i had finally gotten used to the narrator pronouncing dandelion as dan-DIL-leon for the first book but in the second book he switched to pronouncing it as DAN-dee-lion and i had to stop partway through because of it
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: i remember enjoying reading it a lot more than listening. Ill be the first to admit that im kind of picky about audiobook narration and this one just didnt hit right, but was overall a good experience. Voice acting was fine, and the actual story was very entertaining as expected. Perfectly acceptable.
Discworld books 1-2: extremely good listens. Voice acting was great, character voices were fun and fit the characters really well, only skirted the line of being annoying. fantastic story, but not too complicated or unfamiliar, so i could still follow and be entertained while still focusing on work. Will probably continue the series at some point, but giving myself a buffer period before i start up again to avoid series burnout
Malevolent parts 41-44 (catching up with the podcast lol): man. theres just something about listening to a guy getting gutted and filled with maggots while working in the lab of a hospital. like broooo you are going to get sepsis!!! Very good listen, as expected, just kinda funny trying to keep a straight face while talking to coworkers and simultaneously listening to arthur's no good very bad day
Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell: probably the best one so far for what im using these for. The length meant i was able to spend like 4 whole shifts on the one audiobook. Footnotes were incorporated fantastically, narrator and voice acting was phenomenal, and its also pretty much my favorite book of all time. Ive read this SEVERAL times, but because of how fucking huge this thing is theres a lot of details i forgot about or misremembered. Only issue is that it was split up into several audio tracks, so i had to switch to the next one a few times per shift. They were each around 2 hours long however, so it wasnt too inconvenient. Also at one point i fucked up and accidentally skipped like 8 whole hours without realizing until after an hour in where they referenced an event i KNEW i hadnt gotten to yet lol
Catch-22: man they really went all fucking OUT on the voice acting here. All characters are EXTREMELY distinct, so im very easily able to tell who's talking even without speaking tags. One of my pet peeves in audiobooks is when the narrator whisper-yells when a character is meant to be screaming. That does not happen here. Narrator fucking COMMITS. Yelling, sobbing, laughing, all of it. Fucking fantastic. Phenomenal as an audiobook, i think i mightve even enjoyed it even better than actually reading it.
Slaughterhouse-five: man. this one is ALSO an audiobook that is fucking PHENOMENAL. biggest problem is that i got WAYYY too into it. I really needed to just sit down and soak it in, which was not very condusive to a workplace environment. I now have a self-imposed limit where im not going to be listening to any more vonnegut books from now on because i KNOW itll have a similar affect
His majesty's dragon: this one couldve been good, but the recording i found was not. The guy reading it did a big spiel at the beginning of each chapter and kept adding unneeded commentary like it was a middle school read along. Im going to be getting a library card today so i can use libby, so i might come back to this once i get access to an actual official audiobook lol
murder on the orient express: nope. barely lasted three minutes into this one
percy jackson and the lightning thief: see this is an example of something ive actually read too many times as a kid so i know the book too well for an audiobook to be entertaining. Dropped it after less than a chapter.
the kane chronicles: had potential, i remember liking the story a lot as a kid but i hadnt read it nearly as much as the pjo series, and i think it wouldve been at least vaguely entertaining. However, half the book has one of the narrator sdoing a really bad british accent for his sister's voicelines and i just couldnt do it. i didnt have the strength. Dropped after maybe 4 chapters.
Camp Damascus: the only audiobook of the lot that i actually bought, and the first one i got through that i hadnt read the physical book before. Interesting story, ok voice acting. Solid choice to listen to. Not quite what i was expecting, but pretty good story! Had some EXTREMELY gnarly descriptions of body horror thrown in at like. two points of the story maybe. Didnt really affect me personally but kinda threw me off in a 'this feels like a different story entirely' sort of way. Dont have much else to say here since these reviews are more talking about my experience with these as audiobooks specifically, and i havent read the book itself to be able to compare this one.
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