#the irony of them all being tweets is not lost on me im not making a new tag for that though

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hello. im ready to make a thread of my initial thoughts

spoilers under the cut for the eleventh hour gn (obviously) (also its a pretty long post lol)

the opening sequence caught me fully off guard and i like it so much. pair it with the dramatic irony of them yelling at barry towards the end. juicy stuff. love it so much

my favourite running joke with lucretia is her introcard always having some veiled reference to The Events. one of her proficiencies being 'remembering the dead' certainly holds true

lucretia ^v^ face is real. look at her.

i noticed the running background joke of affirmative mugs that aren't actually all that affirmative. it was very funny. World's Sheriff

the ren and taako scene. i feel no need to elaborate

speaking of that though, the opening to magic lessons starts a running motif of taako being actively bad at fire evocation, despite telling everyone that he remembers being very good at it. i wonder if he had someone close who would do that for him instead

i like that taako actively cares abt the others' wellbeing, up to and including waiting for them to join conversations, etc. its noticeable that he pauses and waits for everyone to respond before he continues. he cares ok

ren <3<3<3<3<3<3<3

the lucretia monologue from merle's lunar interlude is, in my opinion, as an expert on Lucretia Moments (tm), one of the most fucked up things she ever says. and seeing it in the comic definitely made me feel a type of way. i love you lucretia. i want to shake you around so bad

correct me if im wrong but lucretia and merle laughing is the first time lucy's ever gotten silly in the comic right? they tend to cut her jokes in favour of playing her more seriously but it was so sweet and refreshing to see her being so comfortable. makes me so excited for the stolen century comic

extremely mad that the "shoulda leaned away" "I LEANED AWAY" joke was lost. but not as devastated as losing the skeleton DnD debate. they cut all of the best travis moments from the arc

changing their death count from like, 8? to well over a hundred was an interesting choice. i think it works well to convey the narrative stakes a little better since they cut the old-june interludes.

i dont know if this was intentional but starting the last loop on chapter 111, which is the exact amount of years that the stolen century and lonely decade span, made me insane. this may be just an innocuous choice though. who knows

losing redmond and luca makes sense definitely and i love more ren screentime but man the running bit of griffin attempting to foreshadow lup over and over again and noone ever getting it is so dear to me. edward and lydia are definitely a better set for that though. rip skeleton man

istus <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 i cried a little over her in my twitter live tweet. kissing the pages

[static noises] in taako's chalice sequence was fully expected and yet i still got blindsided by it somehow. i had to put the book down for a little while. it was the only panel that made me do that

cried a little at glamour springs too. he looks so sad :,(

the crying at taako's sequence certainly didnt prepare me for the emotional state i went into ravens roost in. magnus burnsides i am holding you. i am holding you. i am h

little june looks like istus and i think that is so incredibly good.

YELLED OUT LOUD WHEN THE RED RBE APPEARED. OBVIOUSLY. IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SCENE

i already mentioned the dramatic irony but what i love the mot abt this sequence is how like, stressed out barry looks. like he has no grip on this conversation whatsoever. it conveys his desperation really well considering how imposing he's (tried to) be in all other scenes

taako saying lup's name out loud after barry says it is profound to me because one thing that's always fucked me up in the podcast is that before he remembers he never once says it. its always "L-U-P". barry is the only one who remembers how to say her name. so seeing taako say it now was like. gut punch. ow

ignore the rest of this thread because taakitz date is real so who cares about anything else /j. i missed my man so bad. so happy to see him around

i KNEW the drawing would be the ending stinger and it STILL got me. FUCK the suffering game comic will be so good

[beesmygod]

for the love of it

yesterday i saw a really really good tweet i couldnt help but follow up on. when life gives you jay sherman as a super saiyan in toriyama’s style, you fucking read it. you would have to be a super human with a will of iron to somehow resist now at least peeking at something with a pitch like that. and i am so glad i did. it is so rarely that you find a weird crossover webcomic that is absolutely soaked in love for the genres it’s capturing. 

please note im not writing “parodying” here. i am absolutely sure this is not a parody comic and it is all the stronger for it. it is just a comic with a weird and delightful outcome without a hint of irony. i think it is self aware in the right ways without succumbing to cynicism or an overblown desire to try to be “epic” in the way that “tails gets trolled” successfully pulled off (but many others stumble and fail to make appealing on a long term basis).

the comic is “Dragon Ball: The Lost Saiyan”, in which the events of “the critic” take place in the same universe as the Dragon Ball Z universe. It is read from right to left like a traditional manga and merges both the stylistic idiosyncrasies of both “the critic”s animation team and toriyama’s art style. on the 8th page i was completely sold on this idea and i want so much more of this world presented to me.

i hope if the author sees this they do not take this in a negative fashion when i talk specifically about why i love this. they gut reaction to being pitched this idea is to laugh at it because its so totally out there and seemingly random. but as part of my ongoing desire to really honestly give “bad” (weird) things a chance, i implore you to check this out too. when there is a sincere and unfiltered love for anything it shines through so brightly in the work it inspires. even the most unorthodox of ideas can be spun into gold when the care is there.

perhaps the most entertaining part is how in character everyone sounds and feels. the greatest downfall of ambitious crossover comics is that everyone sounds like the author instead of sounding like the characters we know and already have established in our hearts and minds (the previously mentioned “tails gets trolled” works because it swings so far in the opposite direction that the humor comes from the things coming out of the characters mouths being so bizarre that its funny just to think about them saying it; my point being that this aspect works on a pendulum). its only been a few years since i last watched the critic but i can read all of the characters dialog in their appropriate voices. and while i know less about dragon ball, i know who the characters are and how they should behave.

the plot of the most recent chapter (there are only 43 pages, sadly. i said out loud last night in bed as i was reading it “surely that can’t be all?!”) appears to be about a dragon ball alien monster who appeared in a movie that sherman panned and is out for revenge. i love it. who wouldn’t! that a perfectly in character plot that combines these two extremely disparate shows into one conceivable and cohesive narrative. 

i’m going to be keeping an eye on this bc it made me smile. maybe...it will for you too. and maybe it will inspire you to make your own weird and fun art.

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did u even read their tweets lmao, holly LITERALLY SAID that what he said was wrong. however; that doesnt make him a shitty person. the people replying to them have no valid points whatsoever and there's no reason to try and defend them for being wrong

sigh this is going nowhere, best to just utterly shut you down and dismiss you instead of acknowledging your viewpoint.

… not so cute ain’t it.

i did read holly’s tweet and it’s [the 2nd one] not as annoying as some of the other big name youtuber’s pulling their white-knight act. however i personally think it is in very poor taste to try and tack on ‘but he ain’t a nazi tho’. that person who replied to the tweets never said he was, all they mentioned was that even if pdp thought he was ‘joking’ (still banking on that kill all white people sign, see if everyone’s all peachy about that kind of ‘joke’) nazis and nazis supporters would take it as a sign of support and acceptance. seems like a valid concern for me.

 there’s already a massive spike in hate crimes in us today and the last thing we need is for that to continue. the last thing we need is for the genocide of jewish people to be treated like some trivial joke. bc hey i don’t care if anyone thought it was ‘funny’ (not even someone who is into ‘offensive’ humor would’ve found it funny, it was just a horrible statement end of story, there was no punchline no irony… nothing y’all) , still treated an entire group of people as less than human bc you wanted to trivialize their lives and let them know their suffering and lives meant nothing to you.  and it seems like she’s aware of that… after people started talking to her about why pdp pissed them off. keep in mind her first tweet in the photos is spent coddling pdp and pulling the ‘nice guy’ bullshit. like i said before a simple ‘his joke was in very poor taste’ would’ve been enough to start with. 

what makes someone a shitty person is how they treat others, what they do to others, what they think of others. im not clear if we’re talking about ross here or mister ‘kill all jews’ himself, so i’ll start with ross i guess. also i’d like to make sure you’re aware that being a shitty person is a temporary state, you don’t have to be one if you don’t want to. hell even i act like a shitty person sometimes but it’s not permanent.  

what makes ross a shitty person here is how he treats the person trying to discuss with him. again he opens up with the ‘nice guy’ bullshit. like i said before, everyone is ‘nice’. this is also a bad sign because of bias. he’s already putting himself on pdp’s “side”. he seems to think that just bc HE thought pdp’s “apology” was acceptable everyone else should. he also tries to push blame on the person who was replying to him for not being satisfied (nice people ‘except’ apologies too). how’d you feel if i called you a shithole and grade-f scum for disagreeing with what i said, despite not knowing you or what you stand for? especially since you took a calmish tone towards me.. you wouldn’t feel too chipper i bet. you also wouldn’t take kindly to it i just forced a ‘bully’ and ‘not nice’ label on you for disagreeing with me. 

so there’s that and how he bemoans that ‘this is going nowhere’. as if this was some petty game he wanted to win instead of a discussion with a human being who was upset and offered him good counterpoints. a ‘well i can see how you’d think that way but i respectfully do not agree’ would’ve sufficed here. this person already does not give a damn how “NICE” pdp was, nor do they care if ross thinks it was genuine. but like i said before, it does not matter if he does think it was genuine and bringing it up as the be all end all is not a valid point. if the bully on the playground shoves your ass down in the mud and the teacher makes him apologize to you… do you care if the teacher thinks he meant it or not? hell no you don’t, she’s not the one the bully is apologizing to. of course not everyone was going to be happy with some youtube video and expecting everyone. and i do mean 100% of everyone who watched it, to be satisfied is ludicrous. you do not make yourself or your friend look good when in the midst of “defending” them you spend the whole time trying to decide how everyone else should feel, and pushing the blame on the person your friend hurt. so yeah he acted like a shithead to that person and pulled the ‘ol shutdown once he couldn’t get the other person to go ‘oh im soooo sorrry ross i seeee the liiiight now i was being a mean buullllly.’

pdp is a shitty person bc he consistently acts like one. he’s said shit like this before and never got any consequences for his actions so he figured he might as well keep saying it despite the fact it wasn’t humorous in any sense of the word. he wasn’t doing it to be funny, he was doing it bc he could. well now he faced consequences this one time and now he backpedals to all hell claiming it was a joke and he didn’t mean it. too bad so sad get a filter. how he treats his friends isn’t a valid point accounting for how ‘nice’ he is, bc it’s the bare minimum to treat your friends nicely if you want to keep them. how he treats people he doesn’t know or have personal care for is a better indicator. consensus also says it’s pretty poorly since he just sees people like you and i as screenames and subscriber counts and youtube views. otherwise he would’ve accepted the criticism he’s been getting for years about his shitty taste in humor (you do not see mark or jack saying stuff like ‘kill all jews’ in their content no matter how explicit they get) instead of just ignoring it. he can say terrible stuff like that on his own time, not when he provides entertainment and a service to people under a company like disney. if everytime someone tells you ‘don’t say that it’s not nice’ or ‘don’t push kids it’s mean’ you pick up your ball and go home you’re an asshole, sorry buddy it’s the way it is. 

“the people replying to them have no valid points whatsoever and there’s no reason to try and defend them for being wrong”

well im sorry you feel that way, but that’s your opinion. if you don’t think their concerns or points or valid i sure hope nothing similar ever happens to you. that you get hurt or stepped on by someone and everyone else becomes more concerned with coddling your aggressor instead of making sure they apologize for what they did (and making sure they don’t do it again either once their backs are turned). 

the validity of the repliers is it’s own beast and i know i can’t change your mind, but the main thing to take away is that gee.. they were human beings upset and hurt by what pdp did. they were hurt and upset that these people were more concerned about white-knighting for pdp than addressing their concerns bc it’s indirectly saying that “bc you didn’t agree with me you don’t matter now” or “pdp’s reputation matters more than making sure he pays consequences for his actions”. what i wanted to come across in that post is not “defending” (again with the picking sides thing…). all i want is the white-knighting bullshit to stop. no more ‘but he was a nice guy’. no more ‘you guys are bullying him so you must all be wrong!’. no more ‘i don’t think your points are valid so you’re not worthy of defense’. just no more.

let pdp take responsibility for what he did. he can’t do that if he starts thinking everyone who reacts negatively to him is some monster who can’t take a (poor not really a ) joke. he can’t do that if he thinks that just bc he does the bare minimum he can get out of any consequences. he can’t do that if he continues thinking that people are trivial and don’t matter just bc he doesn’t know them personally. 

hope that clears it up for you. hope that you also refrain from assuming that just bc i don’t agree with you that means i just reacted without reading or thinking. what, did you think i would look again and ~~~~seee the light~~~ and start agreeing with you? it doesn’t work like that. if you were worried about how i might’ve misunderstood something or lost some context, then that’s fair, but a simple: i’m worried you misunderstood or lost some context in the tweets. would’ve been fine.

my annoyance stems from repeated exposure to this story bc pdp and his friends won’t let it go.