#the fact that most of his roles are giving subby vibes makes me &

[bleulone]

JONAH HAUER-KING as MAX MALLOWAN in AGATHA AND THE CURSE OF ISHTAR (2019).

[dismalzelenka]

Day 36

for @the-wip-project

Damn I can't believe we're 36 days in! Wow!

I could wax poetic about a bunch of different angles on this but I'm gonna ramble about spicy stuff today because I've been writing smut all morning so have a cut and some lemon flavored meta and breaking down the different dynamics in the f!handers/nathaniel howe OT3 for The Place Where I Belong! Tagging for discussion of D/s dynamics, pain play, very light verbal teasing beneath the cut. I also briefly touch on age gap and arranged marriage tropes for various AUs.

Almost all of my sexual relationships I write, if they become recurring, end up with some flavor of D/s. It runs the whole spectrum, but there is something very appealing to me about one person taking control and directing the flow of action. I think for me it's largely because I'm bad at interpreting body language cues and struggle in sexual situations where I'm expected to go with the flow without someone explicitly giving me direction or allowing me to take control. So I'm drawn to these dynamics in real life, and thus most of my experience tends to be in that realm.

Anders and Journey are both switches, but their relationship tends to skew towards him being the more dominant one because sex is one of the ways she copes with her anxiety, which sometimes makes her freeze and get really indecisive. He provides her with a sense of safety and this feeling of "I'll catch you no matter what." She's also kind of a pain slut when she's in a subby mood, by which I mean she is REALLY into being spanked and bitten and will let you hella fuck her up. When she's the more dominant one, she's very much a tease. She does things like restraining Anders and not letting him touch her, making him watch while she touches herself, and gently teasing him for how much of a slut he is. She's small but she's also super athletic and really strong, and he's kind of a bean pole, so when she holds his arms down he can't fight her off despite the fact that she's almost a foot shorter than him, and he finds that incredibly fucking arousing.

Nathaniel is probably the most consistently dominant one out of the three of them. He's used to taking charge after being a Warden Captain for ten years, and it's a role that fits his personality well enough that the mantle definitely doesn't always come off with the uniform. Sometimes he leaves the uniform on when they're feeling particularly spicy. With him and Journey though, especially in the beginning, they have this sort of balance beam dynamic where she tries to see what it takes for her to break his control and get him to snap and fuck her without holding back. He's very scared of hurting her at first, until he discovers she's actually very into being tossed around in bed on occasion, and then he slowly discovers he actually really enjoys that too. She's kind of a power bottom with him, especially at first.

Between Anders and Nathaniel, Nate is more often the toppy one in a traditional sense. He loves to fuck Ansers in positions he can see his face, because something about know he's the reason Anders is making those amazing expression really does it for him. Kind of prods his possessive streak a bit I think. Occasionally they swap and Anders tends to be kind of a service top with him on those days, just like super soft "let me show you all the ways I love you" sorts of things.

All three of them are very open to experimentation as well, and then their power dynamics as a triad honestly shift a lot also depending on their individual mental states. That's kind of a common theme across all three of them, sex is a way of communicating a lot of things, so sometimes when one of them is in a shitty headspace the other two like, take care of them, both physically and emotionally. Sexuality is deeply interwoven into their fabric of how all three of them interact and how they reassure each other when one of them is doing poorly. Nathaniel enters the relationship with a lot of insecurity about his place among the three of them. Hawke goes through something later in the story that very very deeply rattles her confidence. Anders eventually has to face a life without Justice in his head. All of these things do affect their dynamics both in and out of the bedroom and affect the sorts of ways in which they choose to take care of one another.

These dynamics are mostly similar across all of the AUs of them I have rattling around in my head, with the addition of one more big thing that I'm looking forward to playing with eventually that isn't as much of a thing in the modern and canon-ish universes:

In both the Wild West and Regency AUs there is an additional element of the person/people with the least societal power having the most control. In the WW AU there's a pretty significant age gap between Journey and the other two, but she definitely has them both wrapped around her finger and there's a huge line of respect for her and a vibe of they love her deeply and would do literally anything for her. A big theme is at first she makes them earn the right to learn her name, and then once they start "courting" her she makes them earn the right to touch her and undress her, and there's never a moment where those boundaries are pushed or violated.

Regency is a little less developed conceptually (they're both outlines in progress) but the idea is similar- she's a noblewoman's daughter in an arranged marriage with Nathaniel, and Anders is the handsome but penniless young rake she's been going out drinking with while disguised as a man. So ultimately she and Anders end up being the ones who call most of the shots, even when Nathaniel might occasionally take charge physically in the bedroom. There's a balance aspect to the idea of the person with the least amount of power having the most control that I really really love and is very satisfying for me to both read and write.

Anyway have I mentioned I love them and they all live rent free in my head forever now 🥰

[livesincerely]

Thoughts on sub Davey? 👀

(Disclaimer at the top, this answer stayed safely in T rated territory, but feel free to scroll past if this isn’t something you’re into 💕)

(Also, this ended up being a whole essay, then fun bullet points at the end, so sorry in advance, I’m just like this)

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So 👏🏼

I have already been called out a few times in comments/replies on the lowkey dom Jack vibes that show up in some of my possessive Jack fics, and also for that one scene in the first part of the domestic au.... 😅 I didn’t intentionally include dom/sub themes in those fics as I wrote them, hence why they’re not tagged that way, but there’s certain overlap between possessive character behaviors and dom character behaviors, so it’s understandable why they’d be read that way.

But as for like, actually writing a dom/sub thing? I’m not sure, honestly. I’m pretty happy playing with the dom/sub undertones that show up every once and a while—if I ever went full on I’d want to put some proper research into it to make sure it’s coming across appropriately (safe, sane, and consensual darlings! learn it and love it.) But I’m not against the idea? I guess I’d have to think on it more, and I’d need to have a prompt/scenario that I really loved, because writing smut is time consuming enough as it is, and I’m sure a dom/sub fic would only be more so.

But, as for thoughts on sub Davey...

So, while I do write Davey as the more submissive of the two, it’s honestly more that Jack is dominant than it is that Davey is submissive.

Jack is just a more, for lack of a better word, aggressive character. He’s a leader, he’s impulsive, he’s protective, he’s more hot headed, and I think (especially in a canon era setting) he’s more territorial. As the leader of Manhattan, he’s used to being listened to and there’s very much the sense that the Newsies are ‘his’ boys and lower Manhattan is ‘his’ terf, and everyone is his responsibility—which, since he’s the leader, then translates to being the one that’s willing/used to stepping up and making the first move, and in a sexual/romantic situation that turns into the dom Jack vibes that spring up in my fics.

And for me, since it feels natural to have Jack be so dominant in most situations, Davey compliments and counters that by being more passive, more diplomatic, more level headed. Additionally, Jack’s got the whole “I’ve always had to fight for everything I have, so I sometimes don’t know how to stop” thing going on, so it feels natural for Davey to foil Jack and be more submissive. Plus, Davey’s got the whole “world’s most oblivious smart ass” thing, and I love that for him. Flustered Davey is second only to flustered Jack... 😉

But, for me, Jack and Davey’s relationship is all about balance and give and take: Jack needs Davey just as much as Davey needs Jack. So, depending on how established their relationship is at the time, Davey swings wildly between being an unknowing distraction (letterman fic, everybody wants a taste) and being an absolute tease (you only have to ask, possessive kisses 1 & 2 of lets cut to the chase). Because, even though Jack has lowkey dom vibes/major protective and possessive vibes, he never acts on them unless Davey 1) gives him permission or 2) provokes him into acting, which in context is permission.

And god does Davey provoke Jack. It’s always so funny to me (even as I’m writing it) because it always takes Jack a while to catch on. And he tries so hard to resist, even when all he wants is to just press Davey up against the nearest flat surface and wreck him. And that scenario is never not fun—I live to lovingly torture Jack Kelly. So, I’d say that whenever Davey is being more submissive in bed, it’s 50/50 odds on if it’s because he’s actually flustered and instinctively succumbing to Hurricane Jack or if he’s intentionally pressing every one of Jack’s buttons. (Like I said, he swings wildly between innocently oblivious and purposefully provocative)

Honestly, Jack is probably the one who’s the most unchanging and predictable as far as what gets him going and Davey sort of does what he wants depending on his current mood. Like, for example, I have a whole unfinished tease entry where Jack’s been a little shit all day, flirting with and flustering Davey while he’s trying to work just because Davey blushes so easy and Jack loves it, but then Davey turns the tables on him later. It’s a sort of “service top, yet still playing the game” Jack matched with a “take charge, knows exactly how to get what he wants” Davey, if that tells you anything about my thoughts on their relationship.

And it’s sort of a role reversal, but sort of not: Jack’s super into it because he’s just super into Davey full stop—he doesn’t care if Davey wants to take the lead. And even as Davey’s taking the lead, there’s still that give and take/push and pull because it’s still Jack and Davey, if that makes sense? Idk.

Anyway, long story long, for me Davey and Jack are just really well matched and really into each other. Davey has subby tendencies but they’re mostly reactions to Jack’s dom tendencies, of which there are many. And Davey is always a tease, but whether it’s on purpose or accidental just depends on the circumstance. I don’t know if I’d ever go out and write a full, full dom/sub fic, but I’m really enjoying the hints of it that are coming through in my usual style, and I’m not against the idea.

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It occurred to me after I wrote all of the above that you may have wanted a more... fun answer, not just ramblings on character and relationships. So have some bullet points? 😅

When Jack calls Davey “David,” in that low, growly, demanding voice??? Davey literally feels like his knees are gonna give out, just melting right on the spot, shivers down the spine, totally pliant and dazed. And it only happens when Jack’s really revved up, so it always takes Davey off guard when he says it. When it comes to playing the game and the back and forth between the two of them, Jack saying “David” is like, the ultimate dom move and usually the final warning before he absolutely wrecks Davey.

The easiest way for Davey to tease Jack is to wear any of Jack’s clothes, but especially his t-shirts or his jackets/hoodies. Jack cannot keep his hands off of him when he does—it kicks Jack’s possessiveness into high gear, and he’s already the more impatient one, just generally, so that’s a sure fire way to provoke a reaction when Davey wants to play the game. The only thing better than Davey wearing Jack clothes to tease him is Davey wearing Jack’s clothes for any other innocent reason, especially in a pre-getting together scenario. Because flustered, possessive-but-trying-to-hide-it Jack is so much fun. I mean, that’s literally the letterman fic in a nutshell, and it’ll be a big feature of the quarantine fic (once I get around to it 😅)

(I also just love clothes sharing as a trope, but I’m sure that’s obvious by now)

Also! Davey’s taller but Jack’s bigger and stronger than he is. And Jack is absolutely capable of holding Davey down, picking him up, and just generally man handling Davey around. I think it’s the letterman fic that has the scene where Jack holds Davey’s hips in place and grinds up into him because he’s being a mouthy shit? Yeah.

Davey gives Jack shit for constantly marking up his neck with hickeys, but he actually kind of loves it. He likes wearing Jack’s marks on his skin, sure—particularly the ones Jack bites into his neck and shoulders and the ones that show up on his hips and thighs from Jack’s fingers—but what he really loves is how Jack reacts to seeing the marks after the fact. Because wow

I’m sure there’s more, but this is already wayyy too long lol. Hope that made some kind of sense? Or, at least, wasn’t too horribly confusing?

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[svtsjunnie]

if you posted a-z analysis, can you go with jeonghan?

(A/N) I’m a very new carat!! so I am still learning the boys and their personalities so I apologize now if you disagree with some of my answers, but again this is all personal opinion and not true so please don’t be hard on me hehe. Thank you and I hope you enjoy!

a = aftercare (what they’re like after sex)

Jeonghan is definitely huge on aftercare. He would be super into cuddles, and I think he would honestly prefer to be the little spoon, but would obviously care for his partner and their needs. 

b = body part (their favourite body part of theirs and also their partner’s)

Him: he seems like someone who likes his hands (I mean-)

Them: neck, he likes to mark his partner up and kiss their skin

c = cum (anything to do with cum basically)

LOVES IT. On him, on his partner, anything to do with it, I think he has a hue kink when it comes to cum.

d = dirty secret (pretty self explanatory, a dirty secret of theirs)

He likes to be taken care of, but can also be super dominant. I think a dirty secret of his would be how much he likes to be a dom bottom or sub top.

e = experience (how experienced are they? do they know what they’re doing?)

He definitely knows what he’s doing. Like he may seem sweet and innocent at first glance but you know how sneaky (for lack of a better word) he can be 

f = favourite position (goes without saying)

I don’t know the proper name but like missionary with his partners hips in the air. He likes to see his partners pleasured expressions. Same goes for if the roles were reversed.

g = goofy (are they more serious in the moment, or are they humorous, etc)

It depends on the situation, but I think for the most part it would be light and sweet, with smiles and kisses. That is until it gets more intense, where he gets really into it and changes into a much more “serious” person, focused completely on pleasure and trying to reach climax.

h = hair (how well groomed are they, does the carpet match the drapes, etc.)

Judging based off how well kept the hair on his head is kept I think he keeps it nice down there. not bare but definitely trims and shaves the edges d,jhgjk

i = intimacy (how are they during the moment, romantic aspect…)

again, depends on who he is with and the over all atmosphere of the moment but I think if he were to be making love he would be nice and slow and probably try to make his partner orgasm at least once before getting to it, and that’s if he was feeling impatient. I also think he would be really into claiming them as his. Romantically? I don't think there would be much thought put into it, not in a bad way, but a lot of the times when he has sex it isn’t planned.

j = jack off (masturbation headcanon)

Jeonghan lives with 12 other boys, it would be hard to have some time to himself but he would definitely take the opportunity to take care of himself any chance he gets, whether that be while his roommates are out or he’s taking a shower.

k= kink (one or more of their kinks)

As I said before, he would be into cum play. I also think he would be into marking his partner, leaving bites and scratches all over their skin. He likes physically seeing how good his partner feels, likes to boost his ego in a way.

l = location (favourite places to do it)

The easy answer is in a bed but I think if he was feeling more frisky he would definitely take someone on the counter or table, somewhere he can still see his partner while pleasuring them.

m = motivation (what turns them on, gets them going)

I think he is super into knowing that he is doing a good job. Things such as their partners noises would really get him going. He’s also probably a praise slut, each praise just fuelling him to work better and harder, it turning into a growing cycle.

n = NO (something they wouldn’t do, turn offs)

He probably wouldn’t like exhibitionism, idk why but to be he doesn’t give me that vibe.

o = oral (preference in giving or receiving, skill, etc)

while he likes receiving, he would definitely be more of a giver (goes back to his praise kink) he’d like hearing his partners pleasured moans.

p = pace (are they fast and rough? slow and sensual? etc.)

 I think he would start off slow and sensual but as he gets more into it, it would be harder. Not necessary fast and rough, but he would become more passionate with his movements.

q = quickie (their opinions on quickies rather than proper sex, how often, etc.)

I think he would be into it solely on the fact that it is hard to have proper sex often? I think he would much rather spend his time during the act but sometimes when you need desperate release it has to be quick

r = risk (are they game to experiment, do they take risks, etc.)

I don't think he’s too much of a risk taker? He would definitely consider anything his partner brings up, but there are certain things he just would be down for

s = stamina (how many rounds can they go for, how long do they last…)

He’s got stamina. He’s able to hold back his release until he’s satisfied with how he’s made his partner feel. Holding back as definitely raised his stamina over time

t = toy (do they own toys? do they use them? on a partner or themselves?)

He probably has a cute little vibrator he pulls out and uses in the bathroom in the middle of the night.

u = unfair (how much they like to tease)

this is one thing I've forgotten to talk about but Jeonghan FOR SURE teases. You see it in the way he interacts with others that he always teases, and I don’t think that would change when it comes to the bedroom. he’s love to make his partner squirm underneath him, love to hear them beg for him

v = volume (how loud they are, what sounds they make)

Although he likes to hear others moans, I don’t think he himself is very loud? he might let out a few quiet grunts and whimpers here and there but I don’t think he is very loud. The only time I feel he would be loud is if he were in a submissive headspace, then he would be all whines and whimpers, especially close to orgasm

w = wild card (get a random headcanon for the character of your choice)

subby!jeonghan would be the sweetest. he is so eager to please and would do anything his partner asks him of. he would take everything like a good boy and wouldn’t throw any fits (depending on how deep he is). if he is being a brat, he’s craving attention, and acts out to get it. he would take his punishments well, almost basking in the attention he is getting from it.

x = x-ray (let’s see what’s going on in those pants, picture or words)

From what I've seen he’s probably average (again im new and I don’t rlly pay attention to that ):)

y = yearning (how high is their sex drive?)

Slightly higher than average. He’d get needy often but it easily goes away after jacking off.

z = zzz (… how quickly they fall asleep afterwards)

I think he would be quick to fall asleep after making sure everything is okay.

sorry, I'm not super impressed w my work here but Jeonghan is one of the members I’m still trying to learn more and more about so please don’t come for my throat im a babie

[bleulone]

JONAH HAUER-KING as MAX MALLOWAN in AGATHA AND THE CURSE OF ISHTAR (2019).