#the bishops dont understand how the lamb

[dubioushonour]

Shunrue's Charm is my favorite relic, no contest (I still have two relics to unlock but I am confident in this)

[the-s1lly-corner]

Lurker again! Sorry for double requesting but I did not want to lump these in the same ask. Could I also ask for a reader who is like Swan from Phantom of the Paradise? With Narinder please! Thank you!

Narinder x Swan!Reader

pretend im saying something here RAAAAAH RAAAAH- and i dont mind the double req!! always happy to write potp based readers evil laughs notes: reader is gn, reader is any creature, swan as in the character from phantom of the paradise, not swan as in animal but they can be imagined as a swan here, non specified creature for the reader, youre not a follower, pre betrayal narinder, you guys have an undefined relationship, reader owes their soul to someone but its not stated to who they owe it to, reader is not part of a cult theyre kind of doing their own thing, admin didnt have a clear idea of what to do here but! yeah cws: blood/body horror mentions but its very brief

youre both hard to read, though its easier for narinder to understand you due to him having the ability to read minds... though i like to imagine that it took some effort to read it

knows your soul belongs to someone else and lets you know that he knows- you absolutely hate it when he mentions it, sending daggers his way

due to your contract you dont really get hurt or age, so hes going to be stuck with you for a long long time, and the odds of you still being around when hes eventually released from his chains is pretty high if your contract is still in order

youre not at all bothered by your arrangement, though hes very vocal about how if he were in your position he would... hate it, to put it kindly- to have your life and power rely on whoever made the deal with you

funny given his status as a bishop does that, in a different font + his eventual defeat by the lamb putting him in your shoes, kind of

to outsiders it may seem that the two of you despise each other, or perhaps trying to string the other along in order to use for later in some way- however the two of you are...

okay well actually thats a pretty accurate assumption, however there is some fondness shared between the two of you even if both sides will deny it to themselves that you enjoy each others company

he does want you in his cult though, even if you dont give him much faith he knows youre powerful- manipulative, as well, something that can be useful to keep followers in line

narinder 🤝 you

having something to do with your face that makes it either split open or melt off, making a huge mess and getting blood everywhere

sure you cant do yours on command but hey its a nice little similarity- and suuuuuuure yours is a sign that your contract has broken and your body is falling apart and succumbing to rot but hey! you guys are twinning!

hes more emotional- in the sense that he lets his anger get the best of him and get out of control- while youre more cool and calculated, and it really drives him insane when you two get into a disagreement

[cconfusedkat]

i think i sorta know how i want to build up each of the bishops/allure together ,,

Leshy and allure are the fun ones together,, leshy thinks hes finally found another person to "annoy" but in reality hes found his perfect spouse to match that energy of his and for a love of fighting to bond with them ? Allure often thinks he can be a bit too much ,,but they like his leadership when it comes to missionary parties being sent out ,, they think hes often misunderstood ,, probably the first person to understand him more properly than anyone else before ,,, still doesnt stop him from nagging allure by randomly tazing them in the waist or going "TAG" and burrowing himself under the dirt (WHICH IS AN UNFAIR POWERPOINT!!!!!!!) (<- allure textbubble)

Heket and allure are also a fun bunch :-] but theyre both more emotional than the realize ,, heket doesnt like opening up nor does allure so they sorta bonded in that,, allure likes that shes overprotective of small things such as insects or being a collector of stuff ,, they could probably name a billion things about her ,, heket just finds them cute tbh 😭 like yeah she CAN be emotional but thats not rlly her whole thing ,, shes probably the one to make allure angry first cuz of her chaos she puts up when being paired up with leshy behind the scenes- allure is overly cheesy and heket is NOT !!! I hope that can summarize them together better LAMDOADM allure is an overanalyzer and heket just. Doesnt care? I mean she Does care its just shes also an asshole ❤️‍🩹

Narinder and allure are. Herm. Quiet ones? Together....? Narinder keeps more to himself often than naught. Allure is the number one oversharer of the yap-century. Paired together you get an annoyed cat being forced to listen to someones struggles for three hours- though jokes aside theyre both not too silly together, theyre probably the most domestic together ,, they both know how it feels to lose family so thats why they feel so bonded together ,, thus being in a qpr cuz their friendship goes a little more beyond than a normal one... yet they dont really experience romance normally together either? So qps it was :-] youd probably catch these two spending time alone indoors or outdoors, mainly for narinders preference. Theyre both quiet extroverts KAMDOAKDSKF

Kallamar and allure are constantly beefing but shi has a weird soft spot for them ??? Like yeah hes a fucking bitch (/lovingly) just like his sister as well as lacking empathy but he sorta just. Has allure as an "equal" person if that makes sense (npd term mainly) ,, she typically despises everyone even allure but sometimes theres just something sweet about them that she cant quite pin down? (Which then he screams in his pillow about and complains about why shes in love with a stupid lamb) ,, kallamar and allure have their moments sometimes where one or the other is rlly nice such as being taught or given something small and they both go like "WERE THEY JUST BEING NICE TO ME??????????????!?!!?!?!?"

Shamura and allure also happen to be a little complex. Allure locked shamura up for a month when they were indoctrinated out of anger as well as not wanting to deal with a dissenting shamura all day?? Shamura attempted to kill them when they were released , which almost worked if it werent for heket interrupting and breaking the fight. Years later from those events youd surprisingly see allure and shamura spending time together near the graves, as shamura smiles nodding their head while listening to what allure talks about the whole day,, allure wanted reparations as an apology from shamura ,, shamura obliged and a year later they accidentally fell first for them ,, however allure did manage to fall harder ,, theyve still got issues to work on together (accidental arguments occuring sometimes or miscommunications) but theyre the second most domestic,, shamura confessed first shyly while allure sobbed cuz they felt silly for not being able to confess first 😭 these two are playful on occasion but theyre relatively calm, spending The most time together at eachothers places, doing whatever,, shamura does scold allure more than the others

So basically its like ,, leshy/allure are matches who are funny together and playful with some hints of being charmed by eachother,

heket/allure are matched for different reasons but nonetheless they can still find that time to be goofy and flirting with eachother (that of which heket still easily wins those) (hints of vulnerability here),

narinder/allure are calm and collected more often than naught ,, some hints of playfulness when the timing is right ? Otherwise def more serious together

kallamar/allure are literally just enemies flirting (with occasional "sorry!" "are you okay?" "good morning")

shamura/allure are conflicting personalities that often clash, but can be found domestic together,, sometimes arguments occur while other times they do the best they can for eachother for both secretly feeling very guilty for the other treated another

[soursherbat]

ive seen your ships with lamb and the other bishops, can you tell us a bit about their relationship dynamics?

YES absolutely i have. so many thoughts about their dynamics actually;

i'll start with shamura because they actually have a lot of baggage, as they were the one who had initially captured ramzi to be executed and i believe it was their plan to eradicate the lambs in the first place.

obviously shamura remembers these things, is terribly guilty, and expects the lamb to enact his [in their eyes, justified] vengeance- but are surprised when ramzi is nothing but kind to them.

it actually makes shamura feel worse, the person they'd callously sentenced to death had saved them, given them shelter, healed them, and asked nothing in return?? it compounded their guilt even more

and when they confess everything to him, he's obviously upset to learn that it was shamura's plan and understandably cannot forgive them for it initially- but even then it just tells them to give him time.

it does take quite a while but he does forgive them eventually! other than that, i think their relationship is incredibly soft and touchy-feely... it takes shamura time to start thinking more clearly, which ramzi is more than happy to help them with.

helping them with their reading if they need it, offering gentle reminders, making sure their migraines dont return, ramzi dotes on them often and is not afraid to show how much he cares for shamura

and onto kallamar- the poor guy is terrified of the red crown, but he actually has a pretty jovial relationship with ramzi himself. he's traumatized by narinder's betrayal, and the crown triggers intense anxiety in him.

so, ramzi will usually conceal the crown when he's out and about! either as a snake around his neck or worn as decorative bracelets/anklets, whatever is less conspicuous.

kallamar loves being decorated, necklaces, crowns, beads, chains- anything he can get his hands on! and the lamb is more than happy to oblige him, i mean- what's it going to do with all that gold?

he's eager to give his husband whatever he wants to make him happy, and kallamar is quick to return the favor. despite his prodding at the lamb, he loves it and is grateful to them for everything.

ramzi also has prosthetic cuffs made for his ears, and he's given a cane to help with his balance- imo he's a bit wobbly after losing them. kallamar has dysmorphia regarding his appearance, and ramzi comforts him as best he can...

man if i go on about the others this post will literally never end 😭ill get on to the others eventually but Man i have so many more thoughts!!

[gaytoddhoward]

hi chat im thinking about how cotl having the lamb be. well . a sheep . was very much an intentional choice & how the goat being a goat is also very intentional i think. this is gonna sound insane & rambly if i just type it out so im gonna kinda just make bullet points.

(spoiler alert: i ran out of steam while typing and it ended up just being a bunch of rambling about these funky caprines & symbolism in christianity)

-the [sacrificial] lamb is executed & comes back to life (w enough time having passed for the bishops to leave the immediate area)

-they are literally functioning as gods vessel to spread his faith

-the lamb functions as the shepherd of their flock. jesus is known as the good shepherd & christianity as a flock . iirc . idk im not a christian

ok now this bit is probably mad innacurate bc again im not religious & i never have been, i basically just have this info from wikipedia delves but.

-jesus was the son of god but also like. was god . or an aspect of god anyways. god is like, split into three different parts & jesus was like the incarnation of one of those parts ig?

-pls keep in mind that jesus is symbolically linked w sheep/is the sacrificial lamb of god

- the devil has a few different interpretations/origin stories from my understanding but i think in christianity the accepted take is that hes a fallen angel ? so . would be of god , or like . Was anyways .

-satan/the devil has been associated w (black) goats at least since the middle ages

also

idk i lost my train of thought idk what point i was even going for . i just think the religious parallels r so so cool & its nuts to me that i dont see people talk about it idk . i think the species choices were definitely very very intentional & not just like. little fluffy main character in cult game funny :) alternate universe version of sheep = goat :) idk does anyone see my vision am i cooking do i at least have ingredients here or am i reaching

[grapefood]

So I believe that - The bishops wounds are unique in nature, they do not heal because they have not come to terms with what happened to them. If they either forgive, or just accept what happened, the bleeding will stop. They won't get their parts back though. (I know the game is probably going that way but I hope not.) Within the cult, without the power of their crowns, their disabilities take full hold. The Lamb creates a cream with Camilla and honey, which he creates into a tea for hekets throat, it soothes their pain. On particularly bad days, they are allowed menticide to distract them. However, not for Shamura as its not good for their brain. The Lamb also has to replace their bandages every three days or else they get sick, but they are more likely to be comfortable if they are replaced every day.

Leshy gets a cane, made out of wood and gold, and after a while gets to know the layout of the cult better. He doesn't wear shoes as the pathways indicate where to go. His cabin has small steam by it, so he knows which one is his, and the temple has a ringing bell when they are wanted within it. Hot rocks wrapped in fabric are used occasionally to soothe the pain from his neck tics. Heket, as I said before, has a tea brewed to soothe her throat. She also received a chalkboard so she can communicate, though sometimes eats the chalk for some reason and needs more. Kallamar also has a chalkboard, and has to read the doctrines daily as he cannot easily take part in the sermons. He wanted to be the one to look after Shamura, due to feeling guilt over sending the lamb to kill them first through his panic. Since Kallamar was the god of pestilence, he is very well versed on ways of disease and germs. He makes sure to care for Shamura and helps them remember where they are and who their siblings are, and who the Lamb is. (not gonna go into detail on this because it goes against what you want on your blog) -- I am also developing a sign con-language that the lamb makes the bishops use, but the lamb is a little less caring within this project, and only gives them words that benefit their god. I'm having a commission based on them but here is basics: "Prescriptive not descriptive - The lamb corrects them if they don't use it properly. Most of the signs use both hands - use one hand to itch/touch face for any other reason apart from communication. Tired - Both middle fingers brought outwards across the brow. Thirsty - Both index fingers brought outwards from the mouth. Hungry - Thumb on the chin - rest of fingers brought towards the mouth. Pain - Touch with three fingers where they are hurt. Pray - Hands together in front of the chest Death - Thumbs inwards across the collarbone. Sick - Cross hands over mouth palm in, straight down. I love you - Both hands on the chest palm down, then gestures towards the object of affection. Solid no - Touch wrists in front of you, closed hands, fingers facing inwards." I'm working on words for specific foods, and areas in the game like the lands of old faith. 😄 -- Thats all I got so far!

Op this is so interesting! I am a sucker for soft ex bishop headcanons! Also thats so sweet that Kallamar decided to be the big man for once and care for his brother! Also while the Lamb is usually a good leader, the fact that the new way of communication only benefits the Lamb kinda makes sense. How is the Lamb supposed to know how you are if you dont communicate in a way the Lamb understands?

I also like the headcannon that once the bishops accept their defeat and move on, their wounds would heal symbolizing healing from the past and just 😭😭😭😭

Dude yours so creative, I want to inspect you under a microscope (PS , I love that Heket eats the chalk 😂)

[hostilemuppet]

i wanna play cult of the lamb soooo bad but ive more or less exhausted dyke city already. i even gave the bishops their own little prison (dont mind how i changed their colours i was curious)

now i think i understand why people speedrun

[relatablemormonmoments]

Sunday Talks Summary

Typed down really quickly because sleep is calling (O@ks is in there somewhere but I didn't even listen to his talk soooo)

Dale G. Renlund

Heavenly Father wants to bless us

We need faith inspired blessings

We must rely on Christ

We don't need to earn a blessing but we must qualify for one

Small acts of faith ignite God's promises

Push on and Pray again

"Mike, you can do this, try again"

Make tools before we know what to do with them

Cheerfully donall things that Lie in your power and then stand still - Joseph Smith

Pros: Beautiful talk about why God gives us blessings and why we need those blessings

Cons: Insinuates that we need to work within strict guidelines set by the church

Sharon Eubank

Temple is a steady beacon (one night the lights wouldn't turn on, it felt somber and people. noticed.)

Satan seeks to heighten pressures and take away the light

God visits people in their afflictions

Life can be exhausting

DEPRESSION! THIS TALK IS ABOUT DEPRESSION

i stan this woman 200%

Jesus is always reaching out to someone who isn't traditionally accepted by society

Some of us are full of questions but are irritated by it (Dream about stone Gazebo)

We develop assurance/ hope in things unseen

Return us to purity-not logical but true

Take courage and turn to God

We need friends and we need eachother

Pros: This talk is about how God loves us no matter what and will guide us and wants to make us feel better, This talk feels like a well needed hug, There is hope in God

Cons: May make you sad

Quentin L. Cook

Faith hope charity and love

Sharing Gospel=Great Love

(Story about visiting Samoa and ministering to a man) At first unsuccessful in converting him but left as friends, then prophet made his armor fall away and he left accepting the missionaries

Invite friends to feel the CHURCH EXPERIENCE

The home is now the main family history center thanks to the internet

The home is the main Missionary training center

Men and Women have = power to recieve revelation for the family

Loving atmosphere in the home

Maake the internet a servent to your family rather than a distraction or a master

Pro: Feminist mention, Focuses on missionary work and Nelson's home centered teachings

Con: Pro Proselytizing, Semi Anti Internet

D. Todd Christoferson

Spirit made clear that the Church is uniquely prepared

Second Coming

The lord hath brought again Zion

Employing our imperfect efforts, our small means, the lord brings about great things

Pro: About the Second Coming, we dont have to be perfect, as long as we make an effort

Con: Pro do all you can to expedite end times

Tad R. Callister

Atonement ->Safert in our foolish actions

Repentance =allowing the savior to protect us (Parachute analogy)

Some have trouble forgiving themselves and have falsely made the infinite atonement into a finite one

You can never go too far

How do we know we' e been forgiven? ->Feel holy ghost's influence

Guilt's a warning, a stop sign, but we can forget its pain (Alma)

Let us cheerfully do all things in our power and then stand still before God -Joseph Smith

Saving ordinances unleash our Godly Powers (which makes me think of superman lol)

No man should blame his "nature" when he has Christ to protect him

Pros: Atonement saves us when we actively use it!, Guilt is a warning!, You can't stray too far

Cons: Call out for those who always e cuse their own actions and refuse to better themselves.

Russel N. Nelson

"I need to feed my spirit!"

Return to our love ones when we all serve the lord (Beautiful but tragic story of his Daughter's passing)

Visited Paradise CA after death of daughter and devastating fire

Policeman helps others escape to safety at peril of own life, worries about his own family to learn they were safely evacuated

When we are on the brink of death we think of if our family will be safe furst

Salvation is an individual matter, Exaltation is a family matter

Pour out heart to God, make and keep covenants with hkm

Invite non members and thise distancing themselves from church

Pros: Really sweet, concern about our family who we want to be with forever

Cons: I CRIED ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER, The Family A Proclamation to the World

Juan Pablo Billar

Spiritual Gifts are like muscles

When he was a kid his brother joined the church and went on a mission. He planned a trip with his friends to celebrate graduation and made a stop in the town his brother served in, wanted to hang out and sunbathe at the beach, brother was like "hey this is my companion lets do some chores before we go to the beach" and so Juan walked with his brother through the town for more than ten hours going house to house as his brother and brother's companion preached the gospel. His brother asked his feelings onnthe savior and never corrected him. He gained knowledge. He never sunbathed but bathed in the light of heaven, he was a missionary without being a member of the church.

Trust in the Lord

("He's just like Uchtdorf!" -My Grandmother)

Got baptized and went on mission in brother's footsteps

Exercise our faith, its a muscle

Pros: I LOVE THIS MAN HES SO ADORABLE and very funny

Cons: None

Garret W. Gong

Counting sheepndoesnt make him sleepy, but anxious and awake

Count the lamb of God and be counted by the Good Shepherd

He calls us by name, we do it in his

Book of mormon is a blessing

Gathering of Israel

Feed his sheep

False prophets = wolf in sheeps clothing

Minister to all of God's children

Filled with compassion, pure and perfect love

Invites all to find peace

Pros: Feel good talk, equates us to the lord and the lord to us

Cons: Pro proselytizing

David A. Bednar

"I have learned for myself" -Joseph Smith

We all nesd to learn for ourselves

Become more like Heavenly Father

We cannot borrow Gospel Knowledge from others

Gospel learning becoming home centered

We are unsure about what we can say about the temple, and thusbafraid to say anything to our children and grandchildren that would foster a love for the temple

A lot of good information is provided by the church

The Lord will enable you

Pros: Encourages learning for ourselves rather than to learn, or to rely on other's knowledge, There is no cheating on a test of faith, Nelson's centered on the home plan

Cons: A lot of non members don't want to rely on church sites for info about the church because its obviously biased towards the church

Kyle F. McKay

Immediate goodness of God comes to those who ask

Immediate hope and peace and kindness

Completely surrendering self to Lord (Emily & Substance abuse) for betterment of self

Great plan of deliverence and redemption

"Aleisha we love you, you need to take this call," Bishop grieved with her over loss of family, gave her a blessing, filled with peace, understanding, and joy.

Pro: Very calming to listen to, God loves us all and qants to comfort us

Con: sensitive subjects of substance abuse and car crash

Ronald Rasband

Our homes are fortresses against evils of thenworld

Our homes are only as powerful as our spiritual strength

Need for Holy Ghost

Satan rages on, subtle snake

Faithful in resisting inequity

Do we act with the willing obedience of Nephi?

Focus on Eternal Life

Testimony=Personal Fortresses

Pros: Nephi, yes Satan is attacking us and we need to build our defense.

Cons: are people with nonmember families/ "broken" families weaker against satan? does this include found families? non traditional homes?

Russel N. Nelson

162 temples today

pioneer temples will be renewed, restored, preserved, and renovated

Temples are part of our sacred history

American Samoa

Okinawa

Tonga

Utah

Washington

Honduras

Chile

Hungary

May we renovate our lives to serve and love Him

Church will continue until He deems the work is done.

[cconfusedkat]

Hi ive been brainrotting on actual stuff surrounding Allures cult and i need to sit down and place my thoughts

Mature rating because its pretty heavy cult stuff

While looping cirice i kinda wanna begin studying catholicism to sorta understand the religion better (since it's just a branch off of Christianity) and just like. I think allures cult is a believe in one type of god for some time until it eventually turns into Paganism with the older religions of Archangelo... but they want to rename it for allures sake after they pass away, so their followers most likely make a vote on allengelo... sorta just a combination of the eight lambs and allure. The difference is how the people add one more god (making it now nine lambs) of this religion,, their belief in the lambs grow stronger and how the lambs will save them from an eventual doomsday (like how most cults operate, in fear of another rising cult that causes the end of the world. I sometimes forget cults are really this terrifying even when escaping one when you were younger)

I myself eventually converted to islam again so i never exactly had any relations with Christianity and its branches. Using the catholic symbols and reference to missionaries and bishops sorta makes me want to lean further into the darker aspect of allures cult? Their cult *is* named "alluring lamb" after all ,,, you never really know how terrifying it is until youre like. Actually involved. So when im applying my past as a child with trauma regarding cults i hope its clear i dont endorse cults,, i was very lucky to escape

But regarding Allures cult, when they send (mainly two) missionary parties, heket and leshy arent just scavenging for items but genuinely converting others on how this cult is a safe place and etc etc... the dark themes scare me myself but its a big twist to play around with and tackle my own trauma if that makes sense ?

"Cant you see that you're lost.. cant you see that youre lost without me?" Is realistic enough for allure to say, because again theyre still the last remaining god after all. Theres pure horror in that statement. Where else would these cultists go if it werent for the lamb that would save them all from the "fake" religions across the land? Allure was able to change a whole land to their new faith of bringing back the beliefs of archangelo.

Weehhgheh OKAY taps hands on my desk,,, WE TACKLIN THIS TRAUMA TOGETHER IN CLUTCH‼️‼️🗣🗣 unironically it does like. Kinda help me? Talk? About the undistinguished horrors? Allure wasnt exactly a good person in their early days of leading their cult after all,, neither were the bishops,, it all took them to finally apologize to eachother when shamura died ?? LIKE ?? as much as i absolutely love comfort, theres a lot of room for angst and development.

Some people change for the better.. some people change for the worse. Allure shortly realized how fucked up their ruling was so they went as far as to suicide (at 10,000 anyways) just for not being able to handle all that guilt. Okay maybe they need therapy more than they thought but if they use their own confession booth theyll be FINEEEEEE (Allure ,, allure you literally died in your own hands with the fear of anyone finding out ??? YOURE IMMORTAL HOW DID YOU EVEN DO THAT ????)