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protectionsquad24601 · 1 year ago
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Lemony Snicket was canonically a cheerleader and I haven't seen a single person talk about it. The possibilities are delightful- Lemony saying cheesy rhymes in a deadpan voice?? Lemony in a cheerleader outfit in general?? Lemony getting tossed around by others more qualified to be a cheerleader?? Lemony who joined cheerleading simply because Beatrice was in soccer?
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stilesthenby · 2 years ago
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here's a little something I wrote after reading "Ava Silva lives on" by moonyriot on twitter
------------------Ava------------------
Ava and Beatrice were home, Bea was in the kitchen fixing them something to eat and Ava decided she wasn’t going to wait anymore. She grabbed her camera before talking because she had a feeling Beatrice was going to make a funny face (and she was right). She stood by the doorframe and, with the camera positioned, said “Bea… we need to talk” in the most serious tone she could.
Beatrice froze in place for a second, staring at the pot in her hands, then slowly looked towards Ava, who managed to contain the laughter just until she took the last pic of Beatrice looking at her in complete panic.
When Ava started laughing, Beatrice’s panicked expression turned into utter confusion at the sight of a camera pointed at her as she connected the dots in her head. After a few seconds (and a small smile she will not admit crossed her face when she locked eyes with the other girl), she turned back to the task at hand and said “This is not funny, you know” to a still laughing Ava.
After a couple minutes of regaining breath and watching Bea cook, Ava spoke again “I really do… need to talk to you, I mean”. This time, Beatrice was calmer, she turned off the stove and looked at Ava, who was reaching out her hand for Beatrice to take. She did so and Ava led them to the couch, sitting them facing each other, with their knees touching and still holding hands.
Beatrice’s breathing was a little deeper than usual, like she was trying to control her nervousness, something Ava was also trying to do since Beatrice was patiently waiting for her to speak, as they were both staring down at their hands perfectly intertwined. But she didn't know how to start.
Should she start from the very beginning, all those months ago? Should she start from the moment they came to Switzerland? Should she start with the home they built for themselves? With their routine? With how perfectly their lives fit together? How perfectly they fit together? And then, like a divine move, the words came out of her mouth before she could think twice. She was starting with the very thing that led to this conversation.
“I read your letter…”
------------------Bea------------------
“I read your letter…”
The shock was instantaneous: her body clenched all together, a buzzing sound filled her ears, breathing became nearly impossible, her vision started blurring. She chanced a glance at Ava’s face, trying to convey repent, regret, sorrow, anything that would show she tried not to cave to those sins. Beatrice saw the other girl’s lips moving but couldn’t make out a word. Her gaze fell to her knees as she turned her body frontwards. She tried to take a deep breath and failed. The same way she failed to focus her gaze on the wall in front of her and the same way she failed to stand up from the couch, falling on her knees and slamming her hands on the coffee table to not fall completely. Beatrice tried to lift her leg to no avail, her limbs weren’t responding. She felt something tighten around her shoulders. Ava had her arms around Beatrice and was trying to get her to sit down and lean on the couch. To no one’s surprise, she succeeded, since Beatrice appeared to have lost control over her body. She looked at Ava again and this time was able to read the girl’s lips as she asked what was happening. That begged the question: What was happening??
Betrice tried to assess the situation. Numb extremities, ragged breathing, blurred vision, heavy head. She had felt all of this before, long before. The realization made her heart clench even tighter, making her lean forward as Ava tried to steady her collapsing body. Her hand went straight to her chest, trying to soothe the feeling. It had been years since the last time it happened but apparently, like many things in her life, the control over this went down the drain after she met Ava. She wanted to tell the other girl what was happening so she wouldn’t worry. She closed her eyes and managed to say, barely above a whisper, through her ragged breath:
“P- Pa- Panic attack”.
The amount of strength it took to speak plus the shame that washed over her upon admitting such thing and being that vulnerable made everything worse, something Beatrice didn’t know was possible. 
It felt like she was at the junction of a raging sea and an unyielding rock, with the waves hurling over her, again and again, every time she tried to catch a breath. Like her lungs were filled with brine/salt water, burning through her chest. Her ears overtaken by the deafening sound of the waves colliding with the rocks. Her body caving into the pressure of the water as she sinks deeper into the abyss.
She had no strength left. She was ready to stop fighting. She could feel her consciousness slipping away, tired of these overwhelming feelings. But then, everything came to a halt.
Suddenly, there was this warmth that Beatrice couldn’t quite place, growing within her. It all happened in a matter of seconds: she started feeling her extremities again, her head stopped spinning, her ears stopped buzzing, her breath steadied. And, just like that, the warmth was gone.
As soon as she stopped feeling it she knew where it once was. But that couldn’t be right. There’s no way that what she thought had happened really happened, right? No, this would have too many ramifications, the outcome could be catastrophic. What if Ava- Wait… Ava did it. Why was she fearing the consequences of an action that wasn’t even hers?
And then it struck her. Ava did it. She opened her eyes to make sure this wasn’t all a messed up delusion. Ava’s face was a few inches away from her own, her hands in the air, still in the position they were when she was cradling Beatrice’s face, but now they were cradling air. Ava had her eyes shut and was lightly biting her lower lip. Beatrice, whose body was still halfway slipping into the floor, faltered a bit at the sight. When she looked back up, Ava was opening her eyes and looked almost more confused than Beatrice herself.
“W- Why? …How?” Beatrice's curiosity took the better of her.
Ava collected herself before answering, taking a deep breath and focusing her gaze on Beatrice. It looked like she was also trying to understand what she did.
“Well, uhh… You said you were having a panic attack, right? I remember learning that one way to stop a panic attack is to make the person who is having the attack hold their breath for a few seconds, preferably without them realizing it.”
“So you decided to…” Beatrice was still confused as to how that led to what happened.
“Yeah… You see, when I kissed you, you held your breath.”
“I did?”
“You did, and that stopped the attack”
“...How did you know that would work?”
“Honestly, I didn’t. I saw someone do this on a TV show once and figured it was worth a shot since I have no other knowledge on the matter.”
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snicketstrange · 3 years ago
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Rereading Ls to BB#5 and My Silence Knot
This is a very curious letter, about which I have written a few times. It's a very beautiful letter, the answer to question nine being really touching, and it shows the depth of Lemony's feelings for Betrice. It's a really big letter, and I want to focus this text on information that is relevant to the general understanding of TBL. First, when was this letter written? In the chronology of Lemony Snicket's life there is a remarkable event in his life, which was the fact that he was unable to marry Beatrice, the woman he loves. However, I believe that Lemony's "non-marriage" to Beatrice should not be viewed as a one-time, isolated event. Through LSTUA we know that Lemony was unable to marry Beatrice in the first place, because Count Olaf would try to kill them during the wedding ceremony. (LSTUA chapter 5). According to LSTUA, Lemony fled abroad instead of marrying Beatrice, and received recommendations from Jacques Snicket not to try to contact Beatrice. (LSTUA chapter 6) Jacques was very specific: he told Lemony not to communicate with Beatrice even by carrier pigeons. Evidently, Lemony disobeyed this specific guideline, as he communicated with Beatrice via carrier pigeons. This indicates that Lemony wrote this letter when he was abroad after being prevented from getting married. The correct question is, why did Beatrice decide to call off her wedding to Lemony outright and not just wait for him? If we want to be simple, we can say that the answer appears in the letter itself: Although there is a message in Sebald code, apparently what the main text says is also true. Lemony wrote in paragraphs 2 and 3 that Beatrice's intentions regarding marriage changed because of the "Co-" and because of the "O." who is Count Oalf. Olaf had just threatened their lives, and she explained in the letter that they weren't getting married because of Count Olaf. This sounds simple to understand, but Beatrice's actions are not simple to understand. Because everything indicates that what Beatrice wrote in that letter definitively canceling the wedding was a lie! What we have here is what I like to call a piscological contradiction. Beatrice wrote the 200-page letter because she was forced to write the letter. How do I know this? First, how would Beatrice know where to send the carrier pigeons? Lemony had contacted her preliminarily after his escape, and had informed Beatrice of her exact location abroad. When Lemony disobeyed Jacques' specific instructions, he set off a tragic sequence of events. One of the most direct consequences that Lemony did to himself was getting Beatrice to send him a letter rejecting the marriage. Evidently, Beatrice was under surveillance when she wrote that letter, and she knew that Lemony's enemies would read that letter in order to verify that she had not passed on information that would alert him to the trap. For the purpose of Lemony's enemies was for that letter to make Lemony return to the country, in order to win back his bride and secure the marriage. Beatrice's letter to Lemony has conceptual similarities to R's letter to Lemony in Chapter 2 of LSTUA. R made an otherwise innocent request to Lemony: "Study these photos carefully," as the true information could be deduced from the photos. Similarly, on page 189 of Beatrice's letter, she discreetly asked Lemony to recall the poem My Silence Knot. In the poem was hidden the real information that Beatrice would like to pass on to Lemony. Something interesting is the number of pages in the letter: there are 200 pages in all. That's an unreasonably large number to explain why Beatrice called off her wedding to Lemony, especially if it can be summed up by Count Olaf's violent intervention. Lemony summed it up this way. We can see that the 200-page letter is full of repeated repetitions and unnecessarily detailed information similar to the content of Ivan's autobiography (Chapter 11 of LSTUA). After many useless pages, but before the end, Beatrice entered the all-important list of questions. She certainly believed that the enemy who was going to check the
letter would give up reading it carefully when he got to that particular page, failing to notice the strategy adopted by Beatrice.
📷 1 May 2019 at 4:08pm Mr. Jeh Ann said: Note this passage in LS to BB # 2: [...] “You and R. are probably learning how to convey coded messages in melodramatic dialogue as I write this.” [...] For Beatrice, the Poem My Silence Knot was very important. She wanted very much that Lemony had understood the meaning of the poem from the first time he watched the play. But Lemony did not understand the importance of the poem, nor the secret message contained in it. The LS to BB # 5 letter contains some responses from Lemony to Beatrice that indicate this. “Question Four: No, I don’t think so. I remember the performance, of course, and I remember your splendid costume, and I remember the hatpin you dropped off the stage, and I remember the argument I had with Eleonora Poe the next morning, when I was more than an hour late in turning in my theatrical review, but I don’t remember anything about the theatrical program. If I held a program I don’t remember opening it. If I opened it I don’t remember seeing a poem. If I saw a poem I don’t remember Reading it, and if I read it I don’t remember rereading it, and if I reread it I don’t remember being puzzle or continuing to be puzzled. In short, I’m puzzled. “ Notice that in the 200-page letter in which Beatrice explained to Lemony why she could not marry him, Beatrice made a point of asking if Lemony remembered the poem My Silence Knot, and everything indicates that Lemony did not remember. Similarly, Beatrice asked Lemony if he remembered the meaning of Baticeer. Question seven: “A man or woman who trains bats”. I am sure that this was not the answer that Beatrice expected to receive. She wanted Lemony to write something like, “Baticeer is the anagram of your name.” That’s because Beatrice, just after asking something like “Do you remember what Baticeer means?” She asked something like “Do you remember what an anagram is ?” Question Eight: “The scrambling of letters in a word, name or phrase in order to make new word or phrase.” She also asked Lemony something like this: “Do you understand what Brae-Man means?” Lemony should have answered something like: “I realized that in the play My Silence Knot the Brae-Man represented me.” However, Lemony replied : Question six: “A man who lives in the hills.” At last Beatrice wanted to point out again that the play and the poem contained a secret message. So Beatrice asked something like, “Do you believe that a letter, a word, a play, or a sonnet can be written in code?” This question was to stimulate Lemony to reason about the poem My Silence Knot, and the play itself and anagrams. If he had thought of these points, Lemony would have realized Beatrice’s true plan. Lemony replied: Question Eleven: Everything. A letter may be coded, and a word may be coded. A theatrical performance may be coded, and a sonnet may be coded, and there are time when it seems the entire world is in code… But the right question is: What is the secret message that is hidden in My Silence Knot? And why did Beatrice want Lemony to remember this poem, even when she was canceling her marriage?
Now that I have stopped quoting myself, I can give my new opinion on the matter: evidently the secret message contained in that poem was now again very relevant. I tried for many years to deduce what the poem's secret message was. I made several absurd deductions. But sometimes, the answers are right in front of us, and we just can't see them. Now I think I did.
My Silence Knot A poem about a story of two people who... Written by the person in the story (in the play in the poem) who… My silence knot is tied up in my hair, As if to keep my love out of my eyes. I can not speak to one for whom I care. A hatpin serves as part of my disguise. In the play, my role is baticeer, A word which here means “person who trains bats.” The audience may fell a prick of fear, The sharp pins are hidden in their hats. "My co-star lives on what we call a brae. His solitude might not just be an act. A piece of mail fails to arrive one day. This poignant melodrama’s based on fact. The curtain falls just as the knot unties, The silence broken by the one who dies.
What was Beatrice's state of mind when she wrote this poem? Well, we know that she wrote this poem specifically for a single performance. She knew Lemony was about to ask her something, and it wasn't hard to deduce that she suspected it would be a proposal. She also knew that their relationship would be fraught with difficulties as it was already fraught with difficulties. As I said, on the day of the proposal, Beatrice handed Lemony a knotted lock of hair. Surely the marriage proposal was made after the performance of that particular play performance in which this particular poem was printed in the play's program. Keeping all this in mind, the most important information of the poem is hidden in the first sentence of the poem: "My silence knot is tied up my hair as if to keep my love out of my eyes." By speaking these words and then handing over a lock of hair, Beatrice was making a declaration of love. I hypothesize that literally on the white ribbon of that knot that ties up Beatrice's lock of hair is a little declaration of love, something like "I want to marry you" or "I will love you forever". And it was all supposed to be a little joke: If Lemony understood the meaning of the poem, he would then receive the lock of hair, untie the knot, and read the message. That would be the answer to the marriage proposal. But unfortunately, Lemony paid no attention to the poem, and did not understand Beatrice's gift. Years later, when Beatrice was forced to write the letter, she asked Lemony to remember this poem. With that, he should finally untie the knot on that lock of hair, and then understand the truth: Beatrice still wanted to marry him. This true motivation of Beatrice is perceptible by the obvious question she asked Lemony, question number 9, something like "Are you going to keep loving me no matter what?" This question in a letter of definitively canceling a marriage is a psychological contradiction. The simplest explanation for this contradiction is that Beatrice wrote the contents of this letter against her will. Oh, and the end of the poem is also explained. It is important to know that Beatrice played a character who dies in the play. After stating that she couldn't talk to the person she cares about in the first stanza, Beatrice wrote: "The curtain falls just as the knot unties, the silence broken by the one who dies." The one who dies is Beatrice. (She died only in the play, and was not predicting her true death.) She broke the silence with her declaration of love for Lemony. And of course, untying the literal knot is what would break the silence, both at the time of the proposal and at the time of the 200-page letter. Because Lemony didn't understand the poem, he didn't fight to marry Beatrice, and simply accepted that she didn't want to marry him anymore. What followed were misunderstandings and false deaths that made communication between them even more difficult. Now that I understand this, I agree with Semblance 's opinion: Beatrice probably believed that Lemony was really dead when she married Betrand, although Lemony mistakenly thinks she knew he was actually alive (at the time he wrote LS to BB#6. No wonder Lemony cried so hard when he found that poem and that lock of hair again. His life could have been totally different if he had understood the meaning of that poem.
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snicketstrange · 3 years ago
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Rereading LS to BB# 6
I will now begin to consider Lemony's letters to Beatrice. The letter LS to BB#6 is actually a telegram. The letter was written at the end of the summer, during Beatrice's pregnancy. Everything indicates that she was pregnant with Violet. An interesting detail about asoue's chronology is that we know that Beatrice left the Island in winter, during Decision Day, which happens every year in winter. We know that Violet was also born in winter. If Beatrice was indeed still pregnant at the end of the summer, we would have to conclude that the departure from the island took place around March and Violet's birth took place around December. However, this would not make sense within the story, because between Violet's birthday and Decision Day, there are no three months. (Remembering that Violet celebrated her birthday during the main events described in TGG). We know that it is unlikely that Dainel Handler thought of all these details, but it is still possible to resolve this apparent contradiction due to the delay that can exist in people receiving information about the pregnancy of ex-fiancees, especially when these people are pretending to be dead. So when Lemony wrote this letter at the end of the summer, it is very likely that Violet was already born and he didn't even know it. So Decision Day happened in winter, and Violet was born a few days or weeks after Beatrice and Bertrand left the island. It is understood that there was such a delay, it is quite likely that information about what Betrice had done on the island, that is, found a cure for the deadly MM fungus, had not reached Lemony. I believe it is very likely that the danger that Lemony tried to warn Beatrice about involved the possibility of misuse of the deadly MM fungus. If the bitter apples near Serraria do indeed come from Beatrice's research work, then we know that this was a problem that managed to be solved, at least in part. Furthermore, the information that was passed on to everyone was that the deadly fungus had been totally destroyed. As Ish explained in TE, there was a fire in AA after the break in the tunnel construction, that is, after Beatrice and Bertrand left the island. So it seems that the dangerous subject the telegram was going to address involved the Gregor Anwistle Schism. The fact that Fiona was a baby at the time of these events only highlights the accuracy of these conclusions, as Fiona is slightly older than Violet. As I have already explained, I believe that Beatrice Jr had access to this and other letters before she wrote BB to LS #1. In LS to BB #6, we find expressions identical to those used by Beatrice Jr in BB to LS#1. For example: "The distance between us is so very far and so very trouble" and "for a bat to obey your orders". Another similarity is that Lemony describes the possible difficulties the written message will face in reaching Betrice using phraseology similar to the one Beatrice Jr uses to describe the difficulties her letter would face in reaching Lemony. Another interesting conclusion is that Lemony states in this letter that he and Beatrice spent time together in the mountains. Now that we know about what happened in ATWQ, we can only say that after Lemony's return from SBTS, he at some point went to VFD headquarters in the mountains, and spent time with Beatrice. This agrees with some claims made in TSS. Lemony refers to his companions in the VFD base as people of integrity and imagination. This is a description that contrasts with the view that Lemony seemed to have on VFD while he was in SBTS. Has his relationship with Beatrice softened that rebellious heart? Because everything indicates that it was there in the mountains that he fell in love with Beatrice again, since in SBTS, apparently he was free to fall in love with someone else, not even mentioning a possible relationship with Beatrice. It's interesting to note that Lemony didn't think Beatrice thought he was dead. Lemony was also fully aware of Beatrice and Bertrand's marriage. So this is a
strong indication that Beatrice never believed Lemony was dead. (Perhaps Bertand believed this). It is possible that Beatrice simply let Bertrand believe that she believed Lemony had died and so there was that possibility that if the baby was a boy it would be named Lemony. (I'd still like to know who the original "Violet" was.)
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snicketstrange · 3 years ago
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Rereading BB to LS#4
I think these are one of the most important letters from the young Beatrice to Lemony. This is a letter that is fundamental to assemble the puzzle that is the story of what happened to Beatrice Jr. A great puzzle that is impossible to completely solve is the exact chronology of events. I don't propose to solve this, but I propose to present something that I consider a fact unnoticed by many fans over all these years. I mean... It might not matter to most fans, but both Beatrices matter a lot to me. I want to point out that some years separate the writing of BB to LS#4 and the writing of the letter to the editor, which I will soon highlight. Beatrice finds herself in a training room. She is obviously at a VFD school in The City, the same VFD boarding school that Lemony attended. Again, Beatrice Jr chooses specific words that had been used by Lemony years before in other letters. Even in the first paragraph Betrice makes an interesting choice of words. It says: "For instance: A Baticeer" is a person qho trains bats. I Learned that in a poem I watched you read." This scenario indicates that Beatrice Jr was in theoretical training in VFD, which as we know lasts for at least a few years. Only after that does one go into her hands-on training. This one for in turn, it lasts at least a few months, with the person being accompanied by an instructor during that time. We saw this up close on ATWQ, but this is also quoted by Beatrice in BB to LS#5. Beatrice Jr was not yet a bat trainer when I wrote this letter, but she would still become during her training. All of this makes me conclude that there is a gap of at least 1 year, and possibly more, between letters 4 and 5 . Furthermore, in the second paragraph Beatrice describes the moment when Lemony encountered the poem My Silence Knot, evidently the poem in which there is the definition of Baticeer. Beatrice describes the moment as follows: "I followed you from the library, where you stood for nearly an hour staring into a glass case containing old documents on display for the "Staged Petry: Sonnets by Actors and Actresses" exhibit." Then, in Lemony's letter to the editor, Lemony wrote about this event as follows: "And now, after all is time, , examined in a hallway of the library, with the scrap of paper in the glass case... For many years The thought if I collected all these letters and their accompanying ephemera... this file is finished". In other words, it really took many years between writing letter 4 and writing the letter to the editor. But why would this be important? Well this is related to the very essence of ASOUE's fictional writing. TBL was published in Lemony's universe as well as each of ASOUE's books. Each book had a year of publication, and the publication of these books did not keep up with the main events described in them. When writing about the Baudelaires, Lemony is certainly writing about the past. Lemony is a researcher, not a stalker. But speaking of Lemony... At what point in his life was this letter written? By writing ASOUE's first three books, Lemony was leading a quiet life. From the publication of Book 4, Lemony became a fugitive, and remained without a fixed address until at least the publication of TSS, when he wrote that he could finally be cleared of the charges if he found fundamental evidence. I believe that at some point during the writing of TPP Lemony he finally found the evidence he needed, after all he was able to gain access to the secret library that remained intact after all those years. And that library was created to store evidence of crimes. Again, understanding that Lemony is chronicling the past when talking about the Baudelaires is critical to understanding the story behind the ASOUE story. I want to demonstrate that understanding the passage of years is also important to understanding TBL.
In any case, Lemony already had a fixed address when Beatrice Jr wrote this letter. So it seems that Lemony had already published TPP when this letter was written. However, TE was only published after Lemony wrote the letter to the editor of TBL. This makes us think of a gap of a few years between the writing of TPP and TE, as the poem was seen by Lemony at the time of writing this letter, and TE was written at the time of writing the letter to the editor of this book. This pause in the search for events related to the Baudelaires is important to understand the development of the Lemony Snicket character. For many years Lemony focused on understanding the Baudelaire story in detail. But finally, he spent years trying to understand his own story.
This shift in perspective made Lemony decide to end the Baudelaires story in book 13. He planned to unravel more details about what happened after they left the island, as indicated in TBB the Rare Edition. But Lemony got tired of it. He had a life after all. And it's very interesting that Lemony Snicket's next books weren't about the Baudelaires, they were about himself. In LSTUA Lemony had already shown that he had the hope of one day having his own recorded history... But he decided that it would be better not to wait for his death for that to happen.
Going back to letter 4, I would like to highlight the last paragraph. Beatrice, in this letter again is not interested in information about the Baudelaires. She wants to meet her uncle. Notice what she says: "The three Baudelaires may be long gone, but there is a fourth Baudelaire here, waiting for you." These are not the words of a girl who desperately wants to find her parents. These are the words of a girl who desperately wants to find her uncle. In other words, Beatrice Jr seems to be having similar character development to Lemony's: she's detaching herself from the Baudelaires' story and focusing on her own story, and the way she's found to do that is by looking for a blood relative. She again mentions that she is waiting for Lemony to untie "My Silence Knot". Evidently she's using this as some sort of code, hoping it will motivate Lemony to talk to her. Of course that must have confused Lemony more than anything else. This was Beatrice Senior's way of talking to him. At this point it's not a mystery how Beatrice knows about this expression "My Silence Knot". After all, she saw the poem the day she wrote the letter. The real mystery is in the letter BB to LS#1, which will be the next letter I will discuss.
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snicketstrange · 4 years ago
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The principle of mirroring in TBL
The principle of mirroring in TBL was presented to me by Dante, and this principle was one of the things that made me rethink much of my theory. In short, the principle is that TBL was written prioritizing aesthetics. In other words, there is a certain equivalence between two timelines, and therefore any theory that is really valid for TBL must take this reality into account. The validity of this principle was shown to me in several examples, from the cover of TBL, to the format of the letters, and the choice of words. My last theory about TBL is actually an attempt to explain the reason within Lemony Snicket's universe for most of the effects caused by the mirroring principle that was apparently in Daniel Handler's mind when he wrote TBL. In summary, my last theory proposes that one (and only one) of Beatrice Jr's letters to Lemony Snicket was placed in the chronologically wrong order. That is, the letter BB to LS # 1 was originally written after the letter BB to LS # 3. The logic of my theory is that Beatrice Jr found the letters to Beatrice Sr at Lemony's office (as she recorded in BB to LS # 2). At that time Lemony had not yet published the books, as Beatrice Jr did not recognize the paperweight as being a leech, and she had only heard rumors about Lemony's research (in other words, she had not yet read the books). In this same letter, she states that the first letter she sent may never have arrived. In other words, the fictional TBL editor mistakenly deduced that BB to LS # 1 was in fact Beatrice Jr's first chronological letter to Lemony, when in fact the first chronological letter never reached Lemony's hands. And that is why in BB to LS # 1 there are quotes related to My Silence Knot and bat training. The question is: if this is true, it is necessary to take into account the mirroring principle. Dante showed that it is difficult to accept this theory due to the fact that all other letters continue to follow the chronological order. Because if it was Daniel Handler's intention to mix the chronological order of the letters in this way, he probably would have made the mix much better and more evident. Changing the chronological order of just one of the letters does not seem to be the simplest way to resolve the situation, and so most people have come to the conclusion that Beatrice Jr had information about My Silence Knot and bat training. But now, we get to the heart of this text. Does my theory pass the mirroring principle test? In other words, is there one (and only one) of the letters sent from Lemony to Beatrice Sr that is out of chronological order? And the answer is YES !! Please compare the letters LS to BB # 3 and LS to BB # 4. These letters contain elements that indicate that they are in the wrong chronological order. The letter LS to BB # 4 was written before LS to BB # 3. Here are some reasons that lead me to this conclusion. In LS to BB # 3, Lemony states that R's mother died and that she will therefore need to leave the TDP and assume her role as Duchess of Winnipeg. However, in LS to BB # 4 Lemony states that R is still working in the newspaper, as R plays cards with Lemony and she beats Lemony in the game (she doesn't seem to be too concerned with life's difficulties unlike Lemony who doesn't can focus on the strategy of the game). (With respect to R's identity, I can only say that apparently all other references to R in TBL seem to refer to Duchess of Winnipeeg. It doesn't seem to me that Daniel Handler wanted to refer in TBL to someone other than the Duchess by using the initial R. The phraseology used to refer to card games seems to indicate that Lemony plays cards for several evenings, as if this were a routine. So, the most likely reading is that the Duchess lived in the City, and met Lemony socially almost every evening. ) 
In LS to BB # 4, the performance of Beatrice's play is taking place in several cities far from the City. We know this because Lemony sends the letter via bats, and states in the letter that she will meet Beatrice in a few weeks. On the other hand, when Lemony wrote BB to LS # 3, Beatrice's performance in the City was due to happen that same week, on Friday. Lemony says at the end "See you in few days". This is in contrast to the ending of BB to LS # 4 where he states "See you in a few weeks".
I agree that My Silence Knot has been performed several times in the City and Lemony must have seen them all (or at least most). But the night in question when Beatrice introduced My Silence Kont after receiving the letter BB to LS # 3 was special and unique. And I'll talk more about that in a little bit.
Regarding the departure of the Duchess of TDP, although this is not stated by Lemony in BB to LS # 3 this is very clear. Her exit is going to cause the change in the functions of employees in TDP. Before R left, Lemony's role was to check the spelling errors in the newspaper's records. After R's departure, Lemony went on to a VERY IMPORTANT role for this theory: He became a theater critic. This is an important chronological fact. Please consider the sequence of events that I am proposing completely before disagreeing with each individual part: 1 - Lemony wrote BB to LS # 4 saying that Beatrice is far away making several presentations of My SIlence Knot in countryside cities. According to LS to BB # 4, that was the tour's last performances. By that time she had already done some performances in the City, and Lemony attended those performances. We have correctly deduced that in this letter he indicates that he will propose to Beatrice a few weeks after he writes the letter. This would happen after her first re-presentation in the City. 2 - After a few weeks have passed and Beatrice is already in the City, her first re-presentation (and the last) is to take place that week, on Friday. On this day or the following days before Friday, Lemony becomes a theater critic. This happened because of R.'s mother's death (Not before that, according to LS to BB # 3). It is in this letter, LS to BB # 3 that Lemony asks Beatrice to use a hatpin as a signal for the midnight meeting. In other words, this sign was created by Lemony after the death of R's mother when he was about to become a theater critic. Now compare that deduction with what is written in LS to BB # 5, which is the letter I am using to confirm my deduction. Note this detail: "Question four - No, I don't think so. I remember the performance, of course, and I remember your splendid costume, and I remember the hatpin you dropped off the stage, and I remember the argument I had with Eleanora Poe the next morning, when I was more than an hour late in turning in my theatrical review ... " These words confirm that that specific presentation that Lemony was referring to in LS to BB # 3 happened after Lemony became a theater critic, which was after the death of R's mother, which was that same week. That special night, Beatrice used the hatpin as a signal to be able to meet Lemony safely at midnight. The evidence indicates that it was on that night, and not before, that Lemony proposed to Beatrice. In LS to BB # 5 Lemony wrote that the R ring was placed on one of Beatrice's fingers that night, after the waiters indicated that the cafe was already closed. (After all, the meeting took place at midnight). Through this interpretation, we understand the poem My Silence Knot more fully. This poem was specific to that specific night. Although Lemony has already seen the play My Silence Knot, the only time Beatrice inserted the poem My Silence Knot in the play program was that specific night. Which is why Beatrice asked a question about that poem that night. In the poem Beatrice wrote: "Hatpin serves as part of my disguise". She wrote about it after receiving the letter BB to LS # 3. She presented this poem in the same week that Lemony became a theater critic. She also wrote: "A piece of mail fails to arrive one day". She must have been talking about the letter that never came, which Lemony referred to when she wrote "2 weeks after my last letter" in LS to BB # 4. Beatrice received LS to BB # 4 with that written on her and realized that a letter that never arrived was missing. So she talked about it in the poem My Silence Knot, which was written after she received LS to BB # 3.Furthermore, Lemony's expression that she hoped Beatrice would never wear the butterfly costume again seems to indicate that this was going to be the last performance of the play My Silence Knot. That is why the poem of that program that night was so important and so difficult to find many years later. The poem was presented in only a single section of the play. See continuation of question 4: "but I don't remember anything about the theatrical program. If I held a program I don't remember opening it. If I opened it I don't remember seeing a poem. If I saw a poem I don't remember reading it, and if I read it I don't remember rereading it, and if a reread itI don't remember being puzzled or continuing to be puzzled. "Beatrice asked about that specific program that specific night . I think there is enough evidence to state that Daniel Handler's intention was that the night of the marriage proposal would happen on the same day that Beatrice dropped her hatpin as a signal for the midnight meeting. And if that really happened, the letter LS to BB # 3 must necessarily have been written after LS to BB # 4.
I recognize that in LS to BB # 3 Lemony does not mention anything about a possible marriage proposal. I wouldn't mention it either ... After all, a marriage proposal in general is something that happened by surprise. Lemony had already talked about asking Betrice something. If he insisted on this matter, it is clear that she would realize that this "something" was something intimate, not something related to VFD. It is easy to see why the fictional TBL editor confused the order of these letters. The introduction of the letter BB to LS # 4 states "2 weeks after my previous letter", but the editor did not take into account a simple truth: one of Lemony's letters to Beatrice simply did not reach Beatrice's hands. And because he did not take this into account, he confused the chronological order of the letters. This is a mirror !!! This means that my theory passes the mirror test. Both in Beatrice Jr's letters to Lemony and in Lemony's letters to Beatrice Sr there is a letter missing, and the lack of that letter led the fictional editor to err the order of the letters when publishing the book. That was the author's intention! And I reinforce: "I finally understood TBL".
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snicketstrange · 4 years ago
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My last text was criticized. I will not publish the reviews themselves, but I will publish my response. That way you'll be able to agree with me more easily, and that's what I want after all.
With respect to the original first letter, Beatrice Jr herself states that one possibility is that the letter never arrived. An important detail is that Betrice Jr states that Lemony never answers their questions, even though she needs to answer at least twelve of the questions she asked. We do not have access to a letter in which Beatrice Jr wrote more than 12 questions. This is evidence that not all of Beatrice Jr's letters to Lemony are published in that book. The reason the editor of the book put that as the first letter is simple: Lemony referred to Beatrice Jr's letters as her first letters, in the letter that Lemony sent to the editor. Thus, the editor believed that in that sequence of letters from Beatrice, there were all the first letters from Beatrice Jr. But evidently, the first letter that contained more than 12 questions, never arrived. About Beatrice Jr needing information from third parties about what is written in front of Lemony's door. Remember that it was several years between her stay there and the letter she sent BB to LS # 1. At the time Beatrice Jr was there, there was nothing written on the door. But now, they told her there is. When Beatrice was there, Lemony had rushed out of his office apartment. Most likely he didn't even lock the door and went out the window, in a scene very similar to the one we see on the show, in episode 2. (Apparently the window was left open) He left behind important things, like the letters and the track he would do. We also have a time mark: the fire in the royal gardens had taken place relatively recently, perhaps a few years ago. The evidence that a fire had occurred was still there, and the plants had started to grow from the ashes. 10 years is too long for that description. But 5 years seems more reasonable. In any case, Beatrice Jr claims to have heard rumors about Lemony's research and has constructive criticism of the research (not critisism of the books). This phraseology does not seem to make much sense if Lemony had already published a book and Beatrice Jr had read those books. She heard rumors, she didn't read a book that proves that Lemony's research is real. Another evidence that Beatrice Jr had not read TWW, is that she did not recognize the leech-shaped paperweight. TWW describes what leeches look like (in addition to illustrations). So, if Beatrice Jr at that time was a fan of Lemony Snicket's books, she would certainly have recognized the leech shape. The reason for only BB to LS # 1 is in the wrong order is because only the first letter Beatrice Jr sent to Lemony did not reach his hands. This possibility is raised by Beatrice Jr. herself. The other possibility, that Lemony took the letter with him, does not seem to have any purpose. Why would Lemony specifically take that letter and leave so many others? He not only left letters, but left confidential information, which could harm him if he wished he could not be found easily. The editor could easily have deduced the sequence of letters # 4, # 5 and # 6. But letter # 1 contains elements that could make the editor believe that it was the first letter. This caused a lot of confusion, but I forgive him. The first letter was simply not there. He did the best he could. Regarding the contents of the letter 1. Since she was at Lemony's apartment, Beatrice Jr had already shown concern that this was Lemony's apartment or not. She said it was Lemony's chair, if she wasn't mistaken. In BB to LS # 3, (which we both agree chronologically was written after BB to LS # 2), Beatrice Jr is even more concerned with this. She wrote that she has doubts whether this was Lemony's office at all. This doubt remains in BB to LS # 1, as Beatrice Jr had not yet seen Lemony. In BB to LS # 3, Beatrice sees several bats in the cave, and yet she makes no reference to bats being used to send messages or being trained in any way. On the other
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snicketstrange · 5 years ago
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Why do you think Beatrice survived the fire and she was still alive for many years after the fire?
Again ... I will summarize ... What makes me believe that Beatrice survived for many years after the fire:
1 - Lemony is an unreliable narrator. He may lie or deceive himself about Beatrice's death. Most likely both depending on the moment.
2 - Lemony states that Beatrice was in the Masked Ball in which he was captured, which happened after some of Uncle Monty's reptiles DIED, and not just disappeared.
3 - Lemony published TRR after 2 YEARS or MORE, after the events recorded in book 2 itself. Still, a villain sought information about surviving reptiles in book 2 already published. The Masked Ball Lemony was captured in took place after this event. And Beatrice was at this event, completely alive.
4 - The TAA book was published many years after the closing of Prufrock Prep. However, by the time the Masked Ball Lemony was captured in happened, Prufrock Prep was still in operation. It was at this time that the villain sought information in the TRR that had already been published. This indicates that Prufrock Prep stopped working sometime between the publication of TRR and TAA. And between these two publications, many years have passed.
5 - In a letter that "R" sent to Lemony, "R" states that Lemony after his capture at Masked Ball spent many years presumably dead, ie without publishing new books. Lemony had already started publishing when this letter was written, as "R" states that Lemony had already begun researching the Baudelaires' lives. "R" also states that Beatrice really was in that Masked Ball. "R" also claims to have seen what appears to be the arrival of the original of Book 4 at the Orion Observatory, along with the bubblegum papers. This description is identical to what Lemony states in the letter to the editor printed at the end of TWW. This confirms that Lemony sent the letter to R along with TMM's original after his long stay abroad, presumably dead.
6. Lemony said something to Beatrice at the Masked Ball, something he wanted to have said for 15 long years. Not something that was happening right now, but something he wanted to tell about 15 years ago. Something about Count Olaf. Olaf died 1 year or less after the fire at Baudelaire Mansion. The Ball was at least 2 years after the Baudelaire Mansion fire. The only thing that makes sense to tell about Count Olaf after Olaf's death occurred is to warn Beatrice that "Count Olaf is Dead!" That was the phrase Lemony said to Beatrice that night. If Lemony spoke the truth about 15 years, and there is no indication that he would lie about it and then hide information, that would put Masked Ball as happening 15 years after Count Olaf's death.
7 - "R" maybe thought Beatrice died in the fire of her house, and Lemony maybe believed it for a while. But at the very least, when Lemony wrote TCC, TSS, and TGG, he knew Beatrice was alive. The secret messages on TCC and TSS were probably for Beatrice, because Kit was dead. Especially the TSS message shows that the letter recipient knew how to make Beatrice's salad and that he would never forget Beatrice's birthday. As shown in THH, Lemony can call other people brother and sister.
8 - Hotel D, quoted in the letter in TSS, is a hotel rebuilt after the fire, because by the time the letter was written it had been many, many years since the original fire. In TBB the Rare Edition, it is shown that the trolley used by the Baudelaires had later been used in founding a hotel. That's because Hotel D was rebuilt.
9 - Lemony knew that Kit had been dead since she started writing TBB, because his source of information was evidently the book on the island, where Kit's death was recorded.
10 - In TGG, Lemony states that he can save Kit through some food. He is actually protecting another person's identity. Probably Beatrice herself, who after many years pretended to be Kit. That's because Kit died on a desert island with few witnesses, which made Kit and Olaf's death a secret for many years. Beatrice certainly took advantage of it. Remember that like Olaf, Beatrice has theater training, and can pretend to be other people.
11. In TBL, there is evidence that two Beatrices are writing for Lemony, not just Kit's daughter. For example, the anagram My Silence Knot is used by one of the Beatrices, while the other Beatrice does not use the same anagram. This anagram was created by Lemony in a code class, and Beatrice Baudelaire began using it as a recognition code. Understanding the chronology I just used, you will find that not even Beatrice Jr was only 10 after the TPP was published. When the Masked Ball took place, Beatrice Jr should be at least 14 years old. By the time she went to get information about her uncle, some of Lemony's books had already been published. For Beatrice Jr claims to have some constructive criticism of Lemony's work.
12 - Beatrice probably died before Lemony published TE. After Beatrice's death, it was no longer important to preserve the idea that Kit was alive.
13 - The Prufrock Prep photo of the woman, who is not Miss K in LSTUA. Probably is Betrice. Lemony wrote something very sentimental on the photo. In addition, Beatrice at TBL states that she was at Prufrock Prep.
Apparently Beatrice worked as Nero's secretary after Sunny's "resignation". Beatrice trained to be a secretary, and applied it to Prufrock Prep, according to BB to LS # 5. And so Beatrice was in that picture, not Kit, not Miss K. The picture was taken after Miss K's resignation.
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snicketstrange · 5 years ago
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The interpretation of letters theory.
To understand this text, I recommend reading The Beatrice Letters theory.
In this text consider the following:
"letter" using lowercase letters, is a word that here means "a symbol usually written or printed representing a speech sound and constituting a unit of an alphabet".
"LETTER" using capital letters, is a word that means ": a direct or personal written or printed message addressed to a person or organization.
 And yes, I know ... those letters form anagrams ... And I know that everyone believes that this was the only great "secret" behind those letters. But while that makes sense in our universe, in which Daniel Handler intentionally wrote those letters to form an anagram, that makes no sense in Lemony's universe.
The letters prominently written in TBL LETTERS, not the detachable letters, but the letters that are actually written in LETTERS, have been written over many, many years. Think of the point of view of someone in Lemony's universe who would take this LETTERS file: this person would easily realize that the anagrams formed were just a coicidence. The letters individually do not seem to matter. However, Lemony wrote the following in the letter to the editor of TBL: (I will do the game with capital letters and lowercase in that quote):
"It was quite some time before I received the first of Beatrice Baudelaire's LETTERS that I realized that all of Beatrice Baudelaire's LETTERS of was not just in the first Beatrice Baudelaire but in the second Beatrice Baudelaire and that perhaps if I gathered the remaining LETTERS of the first Beatrice Baudelaire with the first LETTERS of the remaining Beatrice Baudelaire, the Beatrice LETTERS could explain the Beatrice letters and even the LETTERS of Beatrice, no matter wich LETTERS they are, and no matter what order the LETTERS are in. I immediately began work on the file. "
In this sense: "the Beatrice LETTERS could explain the Beatrice letters and even the LETTERS of Beatrice", at least one of the words "letters" refers to letters. Thus the letteras itself has some meaning in clarifying the mystery of TBL. And after thinking a lot, I believe I discovered some of the meanings of the letters:
letter "E" LS to BB # 1: Lemony had a bad sense of direction, and Beatrice I knew it. (My hypothesis is that in the dashed lines they indicate the path while the solid line indicates walls). The path begins inside the instigation, showing that Lemony confused the East gate with the West gate. This understanding agrees with what Beatrice wrote about Lemony having a bad sense of direction in BB to LS # 5.
letter "E" in BB to LS # 1: In the universe of ASOUE there are people who can pass for others in letters. Even signatures are not reliable as a mechanism for ascertaining the true authorship of the letter. (This is important because the R ticket should not have come from R. In addition, Beatrice I can fake signatures.) In addition, to make sure who a signature is, a recognition code is needed within the text itself. I believe Beatrice uses anagrams as a code of recognition.)
letter "N" in LS to BB # 2: The drawn mountain is Mount Fraught, where there are VFD eagles. The top is full of snow.
Letter "S" in BB to LS # 2: It was Beatrice II who wrote this letter, since she does not know what a blood-sucking lacrimosa lake is. In addition, Beatrice II does not recall the detailed information she received from Violet, Sunny and Klaus on the ASOUE events. If she remembers this information, she would soon recognize that the paper weight is actually a leech. So the person who wrote BB to LS # 2 is not the same person who wrote BB to LS # 5, since the person who wrote BB to LS # 5 details the stories told by Klaus, Sunny and Violet, even the points in which the story they told disagrees with the story told by Lemony in the books.
letter i in LS to BB # 3: Beatrice used a Hatpin because of Lemony's request in this letter. Beatrice wrote the poem My Silence Knot after reading this letter, because in the poem she refers to Hatpin. The relationship of Lemony and Beatrice was secret, because Beatrice says Hatpin is part of her disguise.
letter "K" in BB to LS # 3: This is my favorite letter ... Lemony was writing to someone using this stationery. Probably he was using it to communicate with someone who was pretending to be Kit. And according to my theory, Beatrice I went on to become Kit after Kit's death, and Lemony helped Beatrice I to go through Kit. So some letters from Lemony to Beatrice he pretended to be talking to his sister, but in fact he was speaking to Beatrice I, as in the cover letter in TSS.
letter "R" in LS to BB # 4 - Someone evil was pretending to be R. We know this because of the damp brand made with cups of stains that is staining the LETTER. This means that Lemony's secret dating with Beatrice was discovered by some malevolent man who was pretending to be R. This may have caused several problems in Beatrice's life.
letter "A" in BB to LS # 4: VFD training has very bad teachers, and Beatrice who wrote this LETTER knew this.
letter C in LS to Bb#5 As a sign of Beatrice's eternal commitment to Lemony, Beatrice had given Lemony a piece of her hair with a knotted knot. It was for Lemony to realize the profound meaning of this gesture. But he did not notice.
letter T in BB to LS # 5: This Betrice actually attended a VFD school.
letter A in LS to BB # 6: LETTERS are not copies written by Lemony to be published later. Lemony found the original LETTERS, even the telegram he had sent.
"B" in BB to LS # 6: Beatrice I kindly refers to herself as B. in the usual way in VFD.
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