#the Core’s eyes *are* pretty orange in theming heh
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Thinking about it, man would it be bizarrely but funnily fitting if the two following characters got a moment of being foils to the other later:
With a series whose most prominent theme is change and moving forwards, it would be fitting for the main antagonist of Amphibia to be an ironic embodiment of doing whatever it takes to find new ways of prolonging the past -and probably including outdated or horrific traditions/views- far beyond any reasonable due date. Or in essence, the Core’s whole premise reeks of the themes of stagnation and regression.
And where Andrias fits quite well as a compliment to the Core’s brand of antagonism with his unwillingness to let go of his friends’ ‘betrayals’ and his desire to bring back his ancestors’ interdimensional empire, Hop Pop strangely offers the strongest thematic counterpoint to the Core out of the entire cast with the growth that he’s had over the series.
I mean, he started out as THE most concerned character about adhering to tradition and the old ways, so much so that much of the lessons he learned in early S1 was to start learning how to embrace change and the new. And funnily enough, Sal’s conversation with Hop Pop in Little Frogtown even ends with what could be considered an inverse of the Core’s perversion of advancing technology to preserve Newtopia’s greatest minds.
“Turns out if you embrace change instead of clinging to the past, you get a say in what the future looks like.”
In contrast, it seems like it would be applicable if the Core is a depiction of clinging to the past so hard, the only significant changes it likely embraces is trying to force the future to look more like the past/what it wanted in the past. It’d be like if Sal, instead of adapting to the times and finding a new niche for his sauce for everyone to enjoy, had done whatever he could at any cost to force people back into eating his traditional sandwiches with his sauce like used to be in the past, even if they didn’t want to.
As such, it wouldn’t surprise me if Hop Pop/‘s influence on his kids is meant to be building up towards him playing a part in the conflict between those ideals, where the Core symbolically refuses to let go of its tight grip on the past, whereas Hop Pop’s side has learned that it’s okay to let go of some pieces of the past and that sometimes it’s possible to still bring other pieces along going forwards.
At the very least, even though he may not be able to directly fight against the Core, he could still find a way to indirectly help or inspire the trio there in a particularly significant manner, and like my friend @mira-blue would probably say, man would that be a fascinating way to tie in his growth to the rest of the series.
Especially when one considers stuff like the potential point of thematic connection in Hop Pop’s pursuit of his dream to be an actor, particularly between its appearances in A Caravan Named Desire and Holloywood Hop Pop compared to other episodes.
There, Hop Pop had gotten so sucked into the allure of his dream coming true that in the former, he almost sacrificed his morals to keep performing even after finding out the plays were a distraction to rob folks until his morals reared their heads at the last second. And in the latter, he was so attached to the allure of continuing to become a gigantic star in Earth’s acting industry with the movie role that he indirectly was putting Polly and Sprig at risk of discovery from Mr X by extension the more he tried to chase after said dream.
And in that second episode, he had learned to focus more on protecting what truly mattered in his life after finally getting a taste of what he had wanted for so long rather than continue chasing after something he didn’t have, a kind of self-release from one’s dream that I have the feeling the Core would be very hard pressed to match.
#amphibia#amphibia meta#amphibia speculation#amphibia theory#hop pop#the core#though ngl#now I can’t stop thinking about what it’d be like if one of the minds of the Core was a Plantar ancestor#particularly to hammer in how much Hop Pop has changed since his early S1 self idealized the HECK out of listening to one’s elders#and one’s forefathers like such an ancestor would be for him#who knows#maybe that could even play into the pink frog stealing the box if she is a different Plantar ancestor who saw things differently#from a relative of hers whose mind was uploaded into the Core#or perhaps even the family shrub diagram/whatever else might be found under the house in the hidden chambers#that and maybe even Plantar Orange of all things lol#the Core’s eyes *are* pretty orange in theming heh
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“#though ngl, #now I can’t stop thinking about what it’d be like if one of the minds of the Core was a Plantar ancestor, #particularly to hammer in how much Hop Pop has changed since his early S1 self idealized the HECK out of listening to one’s elders, #and one’s forefathers like such an ancestor would be for him, #who knows, #maybe that could even play into the pink frog stealing the box if she is a different Plantar ancestor who saw things differently, #from a relative of hers whose mind was uploaded into the Core, #or perhaps even the family shrub diagram/whatever else might be found under the house in the hidden chambers, #that and maybe even Plantar Orange of all things lol, #the Core’s eyes *are* pretty orange in theming heh”
Thinking about it, man would it be bizarrely but funnily fitting if the two following characters got a moment of being foils to the other later:
With a series whose most prominent theme is change and moving forwards, it would be fitting for the main antagonist of Amphibia to be an ironic embodiment of doing whatever it takes to find new ways of prolonging the past -and probably including outdated or horrific traditions/views- far beyond any reasonable due date. Or in essence, the Core’s whole premise reeks of the themes of stagnation and regression.
And where Andrias fits quite well as a compliment to the Core’s brand of antagonism with his unwillingness to let go of his friends’ ‘betrayals’ and his desire to bring back his ancestors’ interdimensional empire, Hop Pop strangely offers the strongest thematic counterpoint to the Core out of the entire cast with the growth that he’s had over the series.
I mean, he started out as THE most concerned character about adhering to tradition and the old ways, so much so that much of the lessons he learned in early S1 was to start learning how to embrace change and the new. And funnily enough, Sal’s conversation with Hop Pop in Little Frogtown even ends with what could be considered an inverse of the Core’s perversion of advancing technology to preserve Newtopia’s greatest minds.
“Turns out if you embrace change instead of clinging to the past, you get a say in what the future looks like.”
In contrast, it seems like it would be applicable if the Core is a depiction of clinging to the past so hard, the only significant changes it likely embraces is trying to force the future to look more like the past/what it wanted in the past. It’d be like if Sal, instead of adapting to the times and finding a new niche for his sauce for everyone to enjoy, had done whatever he could at any cost to force people back into eating his traditional sandwiches with his sauce like used to be in the past, even if they didn’t want to.
As such, it wouldn’t surprise me if Hop Pop/‘s influence on his kids is meant to be building up towards him playing a part in the conflict between those ideals, where the Core symbolically refuses to let go of its tight grip on the past, whereas Hop Pop’s side has learned that it’s okay to let go of some pieces of the past and that sometimes it’s possible to still bring other pieces along going forwards.
At the very least, even though he may not be able to directly fight against the Core, he could still find a way to indirectly help or inspire the trio there in a particularly significant manner, and like my friend @mira-blue would probably say, man would that be a fascinating way to tie in his growth to the rest of the series.
Especially when one considers stuff like the potential point of thematic connection in Hop Pop’s pursuit of his dream to be an actor, particularly between its appearances in A Caravan Named Desire and Holloywood Hop Pop compared to other episodes.
There, Hop Pop had gotten so sucked into the allure of his dream coming true that in the former, he almost sacrificed his morals to keep performing even after finding out the plays were a distraction to rob folks until his morals reared their heads at the last second. And in the latter, he was so attached to the allure of continuing to become a gigantic star in Earth’s acting industry with the movie role that he indirectly was putting Polly and Sprig at risk of discovery from Mr X by extension the more he tried to chase after said dream.
And in that second episode, he had learned to focus more on protecting what truly mattered in his life after finally getting a taste of what he had wanted for so long rather than continue chasing after something he didn’t have, a kind of self-release from one’s dream that I have the feeling the Core would be very hard pressed to match.
#Amphibia#amphibia spoilers#Hop Pop#hopadiah plantar#amphibia the night#amphibia the core#writing#storytelling
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