#that the feanorians do...but ''give me your stuff because i want it or i'll kill you'' has absolutely zero moral leg to stand on
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The Fëanorians were Doomed to begin with...
Even if the sons of feanor had been handed a silmaril freely at any point in Beleriand it would not have helped them. Hey. Are you listening. The silmarils were hallowed. Ever since the first kinslaying they would have rejected the feanorians. Luthien could have walked right up and dumped it on their heads and it would not have saved them. Earendil doing what he did walked a very thin tightrope to an outcome where Morgoth is defeated. But either way, whether or not they knew it, the silmarils were lost to the feanorians almost the entire time they sought them.
"If Dior did this, if Elwing did that," it doesn't matter!!! Not even taking their perspectives and situations and political landscapes into account at all, it didn't matter!!! The silmarils COULD NOT be held by the sons of feanor. They were on an impossible quest and did not know it... only at the end could they see their own mistakes, and then there is little to be done. Self destruction of one kind or another.... they are in the narrative. They cannot escape it.
#listen. am i hearing that dickens reference spoken in the voice of the muppets christmas carol? YES#but honestly i think namo would enjoy a muppets version of himself anyway so shhhh it's fine#the tragedy is the point#they doomed themselves the moment they drew swords on the teleri tbh#like say what you will about feanor's right to pursue the silmaril and his right to leave aman and everything else#the moment he went from ''give me your boats''/''no'' to ''then i'll stab you and take them over your dead bodies'' he crossed the rubicon#nothing gives you the right to murder someone else in order to take their stuff it doesn't matter how much you've been hurt#he was not in any active danger; he was just impatient and self-absorbed#and instead of either A: trying to talk the teleri around or B: looking for another solution he went straight to GIVE ME YOUR STUFF OR DIE#and yes certainly it was a very emotionally fraught situations! tempers were high! emotions were all the fuck over the place! BUT#you don't get to just start stabbing innocent people because you're upset and they made you angry dude#the second part of the host who came in after the blood started spilling and jumped to the wrong conclusion#and got stabby in order to help their friends whom they thought were under attack (rather than being the attackers) is more of a grey area#because they thought they were acting in DEFENSE but turns out they were aiding and abetting mass slaughter as a temper tantrum#but they didn't KNOW that they were jumping in on the side of ''give me your stuff or die'' so while they can indeed feel guilty as fuck#i don't think that they necessarily get painted with the ''we killed innocents on purpose > we have done evil and become evil'' brush#that the feanorians do...but ''give me your stuff because i want it or i'll kill you'' has absolutely zero moral leg to stand on#the feanorians were doomed to begin with#sons of feanor#silmarils#silmarillion#oath of feanor#lotr#lotr meta#alqualonde#kinslaying
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