#that one issue of yj where bart and greta were trying to get kon's powers back sticks in my mind
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I don't think that Kon was as good at hiding how much he was struggling as he thought he was. Teenagers, in my experience have very clear signs and despite all his other abilities, Kon isn't a very good liar, or even a good actor. He's ridiculously genuine for a hero that was marketed as a celebrity, partially, I think bc he never had to deal with hiding any part of himself to begin with.
But the reason that no one reached out in universe was that the people that he interacted with the most were either adults who didn't care about him beyond his usefulness, adults with limited autonomy of their own, and other teens like his teammates. And if you've ever had a close friend struggle with depression and suicidality, you know that its hard to help when you are just a kid dealing with your own problems.
I don't think anyone would be surprised if Kon told them later about how he was feeling back then. They already knew, but there wasn't much they could do about it bc like, they were sixteen years old and going to place their bets in the hope that their best friend was probably not going to kill himself before they saved the world. Maybe just in the process of saving it.
#the most they could do was to be there and try to cheer him up when he was especially sad#that one issue of yj where bart and greta were trying to get kon's powers back sticks in my mind#bc it comes directly after tana's death too#and things were so bad for him then#like they could tell#and speaking of tana#again there's no big reveal there#they would have known that he was being groomed even without the exact language for it#but have you ever tried talking ur friend out of a bad relationship? have you ever tried talking to a teenage boy about a bad relationship?#kon el#cw suicide
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Young justice and the titans not getting along makes no sense to me. You’re telling me the titans did dumb shit and hated being micromanaged by the league but then a couple years later they’re doing the same thing?? that’s so dumb?? the titans are like “god you remember what we were doing when we were their age?? Were we that small?? Fuck, do you know what we’re supposed to do besides feed small people?? This would be so much easier if any of us went to therapy”
The titans help yj get away with shit all the time
“Young Justice just blew up one of Luthor’s vacation homes, did you know about this?? Where are they!?” “Who’s young justice? It’s not my fault…I plead the fifth…?”
Kori has claimed Kon and now has beef with Luthor and Clark
Besides Wally, Bart is closest with Kori and they trade stories about their homes bc it’s nice to talk to someone who’s gets it
Greta and Garth are like sitting at the bottom of a pool and gossiping about their teams
YJ and the titans have city wide manhunt games once a month and the jl hates it bc they wake up to their children trending bc they’re jumping off buildings or breaking into civilians’ houses to get away from each other
They race spaceships if they’re not on planet
Greta and Garth are the worst gossips so they just tell each other absurd things about their teammates completely aware that everyone will know within the next 4 hours
Everyone else makes jokes about how Kons what would happen if Kori and Nightwing had a son (he has anger issues, curly hair, he’s alternative, isn’t white, & he’s the mom friend)
Roy and Cissie only compete amongst themselves bc everyone was so sick of them winning that they started cheating or in Kori’s case incinerating the targets
One time he was talking to Kori about mental health stuff and she’s comforting him and mentions that “yeah you get that from nightwing” and nightwing cuts in “Kori, you do that too?? Don’t lie to him”
Whenever Kon loses his temper he’s not afraid of people thinking less of him for it bc it always sparks up the never ending debate about whether Nightwing or Starfire are responsible for Kons temper
“NO FUCK THIS, FUCK YOU, AND FUCK HIM, YOU FUCKING-” “he gets that from you” “he’s floating rn wdym” “yeah his fucking eyes are glowing that’s definitely Kori’s temper” “look at him doesn’t his face remind you of when kori was pissed after I broke my collarbone?” “no listen dick has that same crease between his eyebrows when he’s mad”
“I’m your leader, assholes” “rn all you are is the leading cause of that baby’s short temper”
Kori helped Kon with controlling his powers bc Clark wasn’t gonna do it
Wally and Bart get along!! From the beginning
Besides Nightwing Tim is closest with Vic not even bc they’re fucking nerds but bc they’re both so unbelievably petty
Anita and Rachel should not be left alone together bc they’re always doing nonsense with magic
They mentioned air boarding so Tim and Vic are trying to find the schematics for a hoverboard…💀 Anita and Rachel figured out how to make people feel like they’re suffocating without killing them or doing permanent damage (all the scarring is psychological)
Cissie and Donna get along really well and Cassie pretends they’re jealous
Also, Cassie gets along really well with Roy and Cissie will loudly complain about her older brother hating her
the jl is so tired bc they thought the titans would be helping them with yj and they were wrong
#young justice#young just us#bart allen#cassie sandsmark#kon el#anita fite#greta hayes#tim drake#cissie king jones#dc impulse#wonder girl#superboy#dc empress#dc secret#red robin#arrowette#dc titans#dick grayson#koriand'r#victor stone#rachel roth#garth of shayeris#roy harper#donna troy#wally west#nightwing#starfire#dc cyborg#dc raven#dc tempest
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Y'know, this answer deserves its own post. @tardigradetheking
They story they're telling seems pretty obvious to me:
Mickey Mxyzptlk, an entitled manbaby comic book fan who hates modern continuity and wishes things would go back to the way they were when he was a kid, traps (what he considers to be) the "real" Young Justice (only the boys, no girls allowed) in his idea of what their original adventures were like. Cassie, being ignored by the sexist twat, winds up being his undoing as she works to free her friends from the outside with the help of the rest of the original team.
That's the elevator pitch, the logline. I say the rest of the old team because I suspect Greta would have also been involved, had the Stargirl Spring Break Special not already set her up as being slated for the Lost Children. The Devil, of course, is in the details:
Mickey's idea of the boys' adventures are heavily skewed by his own biases which he, like the comic book bros on Reddit and Twitter, insist were part of those stories even when they weren't. Hence the exaggerated sexism, racism and homophobia.
He's also trying to reset the YJ boys back to who they were specifically in the early issues of Young Justice, ignoring all the growth and change -- both positive and negative -- that's happened to them since. Again, reflecting attitudes from entitled fans on social media, including here on Tumblr -- look at how many people care more about Cassie's fucking hair than her personality or experiences.
Kon slips into this illusion more easily than the others because he's adrift in the current timeline, without a place for himself -- his whole upcoming miniseries is already set to be about him figuring that out, but for now he's lost, and the future he always expected to be waiting for him -- being Superman -- has been given to someone else. Of course he wants to stay in the time when he never had to grow up and the future was full of possibilities. The more he lets himself give in, the more his mind slips into that kinda asshole bro sentiment -- which, let's face it, he had more than a trace of in the 90s.
Bart, meanwhile, is naturally resistant to this sort of thing partially because of his particular power set and partially because, despite all he's gone through, he's ultimately still the guy who goes with the flow, rolls with the punches, and accepts things the way they are. Whereas Tim is somewhat susceptible to slipping back into when things were easier, when he could just be Robin and hang out with his friends and never had to bury any of them, but gets jarred out of it when the reality tries to forcibly reset the recent changes that have made him happiest.
These differing attitudes result in conflict and naturally dredge up a bunch of drama related to those past changes that they haven't talked about. Cassie's having similar encounters with Cissie because they're using the fact that Cissie is no longer a superhero as a reflection of Cassie and the boys all being on the wrong pages with one another. Which they are, because they're literally not on the same page anymore -- it's been ages since their canon selves have truly shared experiences, they've all been off doing their own things with their respective "families," and they no longer know where the others are coming from. But with each conflict, they're baring... well, conflict, things that have gone unspoken between them. Now that those things are spoken, they can be resolved.
It's not a perfect story. The art is definitely a little hit or miss (pro tip: blame the artist and the editor for not knowing which Bedlam to cameo, not the writer), the pacing feels a bit rushed and (speaking of Bedlam) the whole story would've been stronger if they used him as the villain instead of a new character no one's ever heard of. But that last part is kinda par for the course at DC right now.
Otherwise, the story's pretty straightforward. It's meta, it's criticism, and they're pretty bold to critique their fandom so blatantly, but there's nothing confusing about it.
#young justice dark crisis#young justice#dark crisis#meta#tim drake#kon-el#bart allen#mickey mxyzptlk
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yj98 but its a show and i stayed up wayy too late plotting it in my head and
MUST start with tkb on their sleepover bc if not then i dont want it
cassie starts with short hair and she could grow it out in around s2 (NO BANGS !!) but then she cuts is AGAIN !!! short hair cassie supremacy
greta's hair is LIGHT BROWN even when she's like solid human
bart's hair is FLOOFY and his eyes are GOLDEN
kon and tim have UNDERCUTS
cissie has LONG hair throughout the WHOLE thing (also i had this headcanon of cissie's hair being actually curly but she'd straighten it everyday bc she didn't like her curly hair- until cassie one day is like "ahhh look at that girl i love her hair omg its so curly i think im in love with her-" so cissie just throws out her hair straightener -- but thats just a hc lol)
ANITA AND SLOBO MUST SHOW UP (in s3 tho)
kon and cassie's costumes have LEATHER. JACKETS.
-this actually fucked me up in the comics- but once the group was in civvies and they weren't carrying any bags or anything and suddenly tim says ''ok gang lets get changed!" and the next second they were just. in their uniforms. SO many questions abt that like ??? where even ?? did they keep the clothes ??? where did they change ?? did they just strip like that ??? (also they COULD have had them underneath except the girls were wearing crop tops and also they were wearing different shoes?? ANYWAYS conclusion IS kon always carries a bag with their clothes sdjlhjkshkjgdjh
if it's t-shirt kon then just throw out the whole damn show idc i will NOT have a yj98 show wiTHOUT 90s kon (except that while in which he loses his powers and wears a superman t-shirt- in that case its the one that he used in the comics not the black/red one)
the arc with cissie deciding to not be a superhero anymore is very important so it's gotta happen (EXACTLY like the comics- with Dr. Marcy's murder, kon stopping her from killing her murderer, cassie and kon trying to cheer her up, etc etc)
wendy the werewolf stalker HAS TO be a thing pls
bart sucking at lip-reading 😩😩 tim giving ou his face but not name and being like "call me tommy dork or whatever" and bart's like "timmy drake?? what an UGLY name i think i read that wrong"
the small kon/cassie thing
bart's character development ( i mean all of them too ) but ESPECIALLY that contrast where bart quits yj because he saw himself die and was terrifed, to many issues later he states that he does NOT care if he dies anymore
special episodes with no man's land AND a world w/o grown ups (also the tour special)
kon/bart being absolute morons but morons TOGETHER
if tim is TOO serious then it's like,,, bleauh- tim was the one that ''had it together'' but just because he felt like the leader kjsfhsdfjkd- tim drake is a MESS
add more lmao
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