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besiegedhunter · 1 year ago
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I saw your thoughts about Game ending and how it's should Red or Lumacub victory from narrative point, but I kinda wonder, if it's really would be possible for any of them to win? Because it's stated that to win Fang has to kill all other, and Hypergryphs don't actually kill their playable characters.
Also, wanted to ask, if Crownslayer actually can even participate in Game, with her not being a Fang? Even if she could win, she still not qualified. I kinda thought she would be less player, and more a vengeful stalker making Red's progress slower.
Yeah you're absolutely right about that. Red nor Lunacub can die but I don't think it's particularly impossible for a Fang to exit the game while still being alive thereby leaving this unnamed one to be the only other Fang left to be toppled.
The most likeliest way I see this happening is Lunacub exiting the game because it's very much what her Signore, Agnese, desires:
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Because of how she talks about nature and Emperor, I imagine that she plans on breaking away from the Signore dei Lupi pack. Maybe only temporarily but enough so that Lunacub can have a life outside of the Signore dei Lupi's game.
Which, while the Signore dei Lupi are a cruel bunch, the thing they care about the most is producing a Packleader and they look down on those who turn away from their purpose. So if Agnese leaves the Pack I think they may not do anything because she's not going to contribute to their purpose.
This as of the moment is the most concrete answer but it's also possible that Red could refuse to play Grandma's game and the Signore dei Lupi deem Grandma as unfit.
Or some deus ex machina like the She-Wolf appears to put an end to this round too.
But I think the only reason they wouldn't go for Agnese exiting the game is if Lunacub is in the event, something I doubt because of how they're framing her but I could be wrong.
And yeah, I don't think there's any chance that Crownslayer could participate in this round. The real Fang, being her Mentor, died and everything points towards it being before they could make Crownslayer their replacement, if that was even intended for this round.
So yeah odds are that she will be harassing Red, fuelled on by revenge like she's always been. That or maybe she's approached by the Signore dei Lupi who chose her Mentor and something comes from that. We'll see.
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besiegedhunter · 10 months ago
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So I finished So Long Adele and that's kinda interesting how inhuman Dolly is. Like he is kind and caring, but in a very weird way, which kinda contrasts even with other Beastlord and I guess it's because he's avoida interacting with humans? Like he said that Adele's parents were the last people whom he let to see himself and he had a bit of trouble with using human launguage.
Which makes me ask, do you think Grandma is similar to him in that way? Because for some reason Agnese seems quite normal and all other Beastlords we saw participate in human society in one way or another
Also, I really appreciate all the long answers you give, so please don't apologize for them. They are always great to read
Thank you for the kind message! I think I worry that I say so much that it ends up not being an answer, especially with such a post lol but I'm glad you enjoy them nonetheless! As for the ask:
It's a bit difficult to explain. Like, I think that Dolly has a weird relationship with things that I think is best demonstrated with the volcano at the end, where he says plain out what lava is and then proceeds to kinda just care about surfing on it.
That's how he sees the world and the laid down definitions for things. He knows what's conventional, he just only cares for what he finds enjoyable. He's pretty loose with things whereas basically every other Beast Lord aren't.
Like the Signore dei Lupi create their own terms for things and set rules for their game that they must strictly follow. They also know how to work within other systems, as Zaaro was able to make the Bellone family flourish and keep himself hidden and Agnese understands how Rhodes Island works as well as how limited Lunacub and Red are by the lives they've led up to that point.
Vs Dolly who frequently causes problems within Rhodes Island himself or with his clones. It's moreso his personality and relationship with things that make him come across as more out of touch than the other Beast Lords.
And all the other Beast Lords are very much abnormal and out of touch. They just may not come across as much because they make an effort to learn about society when society benefits their goals.
Grandma... I think Grandma probably will come across as more out of touch than the other Beast Lords if and only if she has much interaction with society. Can't come across as out of touch if there's nothing to touch, you know?
But Grandma didn't even see worth it to teach Red how to deal with society. She didn't try to accommodate Red being a human and her feelings. She shows a blatant disregard for anything outside of her goals and as of this moment none of her goals appear to correspond with any facet of society.
I'd assume that if she were to interact with society in any way it'd be with a complete disregard to it. Like the most she'd do is minimize her own presence or send Red in to accomplish something.
Furthermore I can't imagine when Red has little knowledge for society that Grandma would. Grandma is something that Red logically needs to move away from and she needs to integrate herself with society. Grandma having done so herself or showing much knowledge/respect for it would sort of fly in the face of that.
And Grandma's lack of empathy for Red, her tool. Well... I think she'd have even less empathy for random Siracusans and their rules or customs.
Which idk if that's saying she'll be like Dolly. I feel there'd be an immense difference and how out of touch she is will be masked by how cruel and cold she is which is nothing like Dolly but I think ramping up how inhuman Grandma is would be interesting.
Characters like Zaaro, Ya, even Aulus, Quintus, the First to Talk and Endspeaker don't really come across as that much really and they're all enemies and not human/fully.
That said, it's possible how I'm painting Grandma won't be at all how she's presented (I've certainly been wrong *cough* *cough*) but I also can't see her being very kind... Not with what Red is like...
Which can I just say, the game presents Red extremely lightly for her circumstances? Like I know it just does that with a lot of things but it's so terrible yet really not so much presented as such. And it's Grandma's fault so... yeah. We'll see.
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