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Idk. Hellcheer is cute to me. I would've loved to have seen what could potentially come of them had the writers kept them alive. I've always been a sucker for the "bad boy" and "good girl" trope. I just think it would've been super cute and super sweet if the writers chose to do that with them.

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Steve is an idiot the way literally all of us are, or have the potential to be, idiots. He's not intellectually an idiot. He's smart; he's just a goofball who, here and there, does something stupid.

I have two degrees and I still put my car keys in the fridge yesterday morning and spent two hours looking for them. I had to Uber into work. That's the kind of idiot Steve is.

Its really disappointing to see people take the silly things he does and weaponize it against a character who is actually capable of extreme critical thinking, problem solving and pressure-response.

People will find anything to invalidate his character. Anything. And there's so many other qualities that Steve possesses. Leadership is one of the biggest. He was co-captain of the swim team, so not only do you have to be really good, you also have to be a team player. He's also inquisitive. He's always asking questions because he wants to be a part of things and understand.

But also the people in the show call him an idiot and treat him as one, Robin and Dustin are two of the first people that come to mind. And it's done in a "joking" manner but it really doesn't come off that way for me. They do tend to treat him as just another pretty face when he is fully capable of critical thinking and problem solving like you said. But the people in fandom use the word maliciously, and they mean it. People have an obsession with making Steve's character seem less than everyone else.

I wish people would stop using the word idiot to describe him even in an "affectionate" way. Why can't we call him silly? Or funny? Or a goofball like you said? Those are ten times more endearing than idiot.

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Maybe it's just me but I have a very strong feeling we won't be getting season 5 until the end of 2025 or beginning of 2026.

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Which character likes which weather season???

OOOO this is an interesting question. I'm going solely based off the vibes I get. Curious to know what others think! :)

(Also forgive me if I forgot anyone)

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Max: She's a fall/autumn girlie.

El: She gives me spring vibes!

Mike: He's a summer boy.

Dustin: He's also a summer boy I feel.

Will: I feel like Will enjoys spring honestly.

Lucas: Hm. I'm getting the sense that he could be a fall/autumn dude, but also he enjoys summer.

Steve: He's a summer man. 100%.

Nancy: She gives me winter or autumn vibes.

Robin: Spring. Robin hates being too hot or too cold!

Eddie: He hates the cold and hates the heat so I'm putting him in the fall/autumn category.

Jonathan: Fall/autumn or winter.

Hopper: After being in Russia, Hopper 100% hates the cold now so I'm going with summer for sure.

Joyce: Spring or fall/autumn for momma J.

Erica: Winter solely because she likes chucking snowballs at Lucas's head.

Murray: He's giving winter or summer vibes for me.

Billy: Summer!

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What's your favorite thing about Stobin

Honestly I think it's how quickly they came to love and trust each other. They're able to lean on each other and are supportive of each other.

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One thing I would like to see addressed in the show is the parentification of Jonathan but I don't think we'll get that because the writers absolutely pushed him to the sideline and I don't really see him getting much attention in the last season either.

The parentification is probably the most interesting thing about Jonathan and I do wish they would explore it more. But assuming season 5 is going to be going back to season 1 dynamics, then I think Jon will have a decent amount of screentime/dialogue. Parentification is such complex topic and it would be neat to explore further!

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okay but can we talk about the fact that ed*ie fans don’t actually like canon ed*ie

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿: It's becoming more and more apparent, Anon. And this is why I focus on canon. Fanon means shit to me. It's unimportant. The only version of Eddie that matters to me is canon Eddie. I try to enjoy canon Eddie for who he is. I don't feel the need to make up 238 headcanons and then get mad when none of them are true. (I won't be on Tumblr when his book drops either next week lmao because I can already tell what's going to happen)

🌶️: He's unfortunately become unrecognizable. Pretty much an original character at this point!

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Do you think Ronance makes sense

Not in the slightest bit.

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Mike Wheeler is the perfect example of a teenage boy. He's bitchy, snarky, a king at irritated facial expressions, barely says three words to his sister, and loves his girlfriend and best friends. Mike Wheeler is great.

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London, since you love Halloween, what sort of costumes do you think the characters would wear? (I know we see a few in S2 but I wondered if you have any other ideas too)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿: I literally love this question lol. I’ll pick a few characters. I could see Eddie being something simple, like a pirate or a rockstar. Max loves Halloween, so she would want to be something scary each year!! She would be the type to add blood and gore to her costumes. Steve would absolutely go as Marty McFly from BTTF or Ferris Bueller! I think the teens (Steve, Nancy, Robin, Jonathan, Eddie) if they were all friends would 100% be the Breakfast Club for Halloween! Robin would go all out one year and be Beetlejuice LMAO face paint/makeup and everything. I could also see El and Max wanting to be the twins from The Shining and trying to terrorize the neighborhood lol, and I’m fully convinced Robin and Steve would go as the Blues Brothers one year 😂

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Thoughts on the sibling pairs? Favorite sibs?

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿: I hope we get to see more of Mike and Nancy now that they’ve grown up a bit. I’d even be pleased with a simple hug lol. Jon and Will are sweet, and Erica and Lucas crack me up. I’m excited to see all of the sibling pairings in season 5.

🌶️: I think Jonathan and Will have a very special bond. I really loved their relationship in the earlier seasons. We didn’t get much in season 3, but in season 4 their conversation was really nice to see! You can tell Jonathan cares about Will more than anyone else in the world.

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do you ever think about how sweet and adorable el is? i just want her to have a happy ending :(

She'll get her happy ending, don't worry!! They all will :)

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Top 3 favorite ST friendships?

Darn that's a good question.

Number 1: Dustin and Steve but I'll never forgive the Duffers for ruining it in season 4.

Number 2: Max and El. Their friendship was so cute in season 3 and 4.

Number 3: Robin and Steve. Although I hate some parts of their friendship, I genuinely think it's a nice friendship and something both of them needed.

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I don't hate Dustin and Max, I just hate the fandom portrayal of them that always seems to give them a "me, me, me" attitude, especially around Steve. Like when fics seem to have them demanding to be a part of the decision making process in Steve's life, or expecting to be the first to know updates in Steve's life. I see it so much in Steddie fics and I'm over it.

I love Dustin and Max as they are in the show. Complex teenagers that have been struggling with trauma and living impossible events at a very young age.

I hate Dustin and Max as they are in much of fanon. Incredibly selfish and self centered assholes who expect to be included in everything, and will just take and take without caring about how it affects anyone else. (I saw one fic that had them demanding a $50 a week allowance each from Steve. At a time when minimum wage was like $3 an hour.)

Steddie fics should be banished <3

In all seriousness though, I get what you mean, which is why I hate discussing fanon anything really. Fanon is so far fetched. Canon Dustin and Max are top 3 in my eyes. They're just traumatized teenagers trying to navigate the world. There's so much room and time for them to grow as people, you know?

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who are 2 characters that you want to see interact more

So many, honestly.

Eleven + Steve

Jon + Will (I feel like they've barely talked since season 2)

Hopper + Steve

Nancy + Mike (Again, haven't had a true conversation since like...season 1)

Max + Will

Nancy + Mrs. Wheeler

Eleven + Lucas

There's probably a lot more that I want to see interact, but it's late and my brain is turned off lol

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Are your favorite ship steddie or anything with b*lly if not I think you're safe

Lol absolutely not. No way in hell.