#team targaryen forever

[lookingforasphodels]

... and some bitter people keep screeching that the Starks are the protagonists. ASOIAF is a phenomenon because of those messy dragonlords, it is known.

The whole expanded verse is Daenerys Targaryen's legacy.

[danyseastar]

“As things stand, Rhaenyra will ascend the throne and Jacaerys Targaryen will be her heir.”

Alicent, sweetheart, why are you saying that like it’s a bad thing?

“Though his fifteenth name day was still half a year away, Prince Jacaerys proved himself a man, and a worthy heir to the Iron Throne.”

“Prince Jacaerys flew north on his dragon, calling upon Lady Arryn of the Vale, Lord Manderly of White Harbor, [...], and Cregan Stark of Winterfell. So charming was the prince, and so fearsome his dragon, that each of the lords he visited pledged their support for his mother.”

“Meanwhile, the seeds Jacaerys Velaryon had planted on his flight north had begun to bear fruit, and men were gathering at White Harbor, Winterfell, Barrowton, Sisterton, Gulltown, and the Gates of the Moon.”

“Those who doubted the paternity of Rhaenyra’s sons whispered that the eggs would never hatch, but the birth in turn of three dragons gave the lie to their words. [Viserys] sat Jace upon his knee atop the Iron Throne and was heard to say, “One day this will be your seat, lad.”

“That left only Vhagar. No living dragon could match Vhagar for size or ferocity, but Jace reasoned that if Vermax, Syrax, and Caraxes were to descend on King’s Landing all at once, even “that hoary old bitch” would be unable to withstand them.”

“Thousands died. Yet none of these losses were felt so deeply as that of Jacaerys Velaryon, Prince of Dragonstone and heir to the Iron Throne.”

“When the Sea Snake was congratulated on his victory, the old man said, “If this be victory, I pray I never win another.”

[the-daily-dreamer]

Imma wait until the next episode for an explanation because this makes no sense. You’re telling me that Aemond “I should be king but I’ll still seek out and bring my brother to be crowned” Targaryen just wants to kill Aegon?? Suddenly???

This is supposed to be a dysfunctional brotherly relationship where they don’t understand or get along with each other yet will die for each other. What a mess. It’s like the writers forgot what season 1 characterization was.

[dragondream-ing]

If someone defends Rhaenyra’s usurpation because of tRaDiTiOn, they better be waving a Maegor banner proudly.

I’m being serious.

So many people in this fandom care about the tradition of Westerosi inheritance and act like yelling about it justifies team green’s actions. They never seem to take into consideration what it means.

This post is inspired by my allergy to inconsistency and hypocrisy. Here we go.

The only consistent tradition of Targaryen succession is the ruler choosing their own heir. Sometimes that aligned with Westerosi tradition, often it did not. And it started with the very first heir. So either you admit Maegor was the rightful heir over Aenys, or you admit he wasn’t because Aegon the Conqueror said so.

Let me explain.

Visenya was Aegon’s first wife. In Westerosi tradition, Rhaenys would be considered at best a mistress and her children out of the succession or, at the least, behind Visenya’s children. The lords accepted the validity of Aegon’s plural marriage because they didn’t have the power to oppose the Conquerors, simple as. Tradition didn’t matter in the face of dragons. It is not a genuine argument and hasn’t been since the creation of the Crown itself. House Targaryen’s exceptionalism went beyond incest and dragons from the start, and accepting Aenys as king shows the nobles accepted this when it was convenient.

So I’d like team green to be consistent. Is the king’s word law, a la Aegon choosing Aenys as his heir? Or is this a break from tradition that was only corrected when Maegor killed his nephew and took the throne?

It gets messy from here. Maegor, as we know, didn’t have a child, so he chose his great-niece, Aerea as his heir. Jaehaerys was still alive, he could’ve chosen him. Heck, that might’ve eased like a drop of the tension between him, Jaehaerys and Alyssa Velaryon. So if you’re a tradition truther, Maegor was the proper king but then chose an untraditional heir. Hmm.

Then we get to Jaehaerys, and a tradition truther might think YES, THAT’S OUR GUY. But he’s really not.

Yes, he stopped considering his eldest living child, Daenerys, as his heir after Aemon was born. But then Aemon died.

Aemon did, however, die with an heir. Her name was Rhaenys. In Westerosi tradition, she’d inherit after him, because a daughter inherits before a brother. Now, I know the lords do all sorts of things to circumvent this (see Alys Karstark), but that *is* Westerosi tradition.

Did Jaehaerys follow tradition? Nope. He picked his second oldest son, Baelon.

Some might say there are logical reasons for this. Baelon was a warrior, older, and had grown sons. Rhaenys was like 18, married to an ambitious lord not named Targaryen, and at risk of dying in childbirth (Baelon was named heir in 92, Rhaenys had her first child in 92). HOWEVER, we see with Jeyne Arryn becoming Lady of the Vale while still a *toddler* that Westerosi tradition doesn’t set aside claims merely because such concerns exist. In fact, in ASOIAF, some Lannister married an f-ing BABY to lay claim to her lands because *she* is the acknowledged inheritor.

You could argue that it matters more when it’s the Crown, and I’ll concede that while pointing out you’ve made my argument for me: isn’t that a good reason for the Crown to do what it wants instead of following traditions that hamstring it?

If you’re a tradition truther, however, you should be in a rage and insisting Rhaenys inherit, and you should be outraged by what was done to her at the Council of 101 after Baelon dies. Her claim wasn’t even considered, Laenor’s was—ya know, her toddler son who got his claim *through* her.

So then Viserys takes the throne and continues the Targaryen custom of choosing his heir. And the tradition truthers of the fandom rise up and boo, and they cry “duty and sacrifice! What about tradition!?”

Just admit that the lords of Westeros, Alicent, her merry band of greens, and the fans that make excuses for them didn’t and don’t care about tradition unless it suits them, and they only become vocal about it when a woman stands a good chance of inheriting over a man.

Viserys never wavered in his choice, the realm knew it and so did the greens. This is precisely why Rhaenyra had far more support than her brother, and why the argument that the realm wouldn’t accept her is bs. The realm DID accept her. Because they understood something many in this fandom struggle to

There was only one consistent tradition of royal succession between the Conquest and the Dance: the ruler chooses their heir.

[katrantsasoiaf]

hotd as troubled birds (ft. the green kids) (3/?)

[alicentsultana]

Aegon, Aemond and Helaena use green not only because it is their mother's color, but because is the color of the family that actually welcomed them. They probably barely know the rest of Hightowers well enough, but the same way alicent wore green and her family promptly understood what she wanted to say, her children also would do the same, they know and trust it, because that's the side of the family who would come to them, because they are descendants of the tower.

unlike the other side who doesn't accept tem because they aren't what? Product of incest enough?

[rhaenyras-regret]

Can we get some love for Baela and Rhaena?? They seem so ignored in the series thus far, like all the TB kids are, but them especially. Me especially, can't wait for Baela x Jace.

[nyeisha95]

Absolutely CRYING at the trailer for the season finale!!!!! Yo Rhaenrya scared Aemond so much that he went to HALEANA of all people and told her to hop on Dreamfyre and fight!!! What is Haleana about to do Aemond? Go out there and end up like Aegon and Sunfyre when they got their asses beat by Rhaenys!!! At this point you just have to wait for Daeron, he’s on the move, your council literally just told you this!! Stop shitting your pants and wait, damn.

But I love how much this scared him though. It’s almost like Dracarysing your own brother and his dragon who could have been a great asset at this time was a stupid idea huh??!!

[earth4angels]

rhae is given no breaks. she’s on a constant grief, burying her dead day after day, like not even MONTHS apart. she’s losing so much… and wants to hold together her family as much as she can.

she’s going through so much pain all because she’s taking in a job her father left her, a realm she needs to protect.

[perfectmanisperfect]

i am now recovered from my rhaenicent delusions. team black (rhaenyra) whatever you do next i got your back.

“i want aemond targaryen” hell yes i’ll get you that and more. his head on a pike isn’t enough i need to bitch slap him myself.

[lullaebies]

Premise: Prince Rhaegal, the only male child of King Viserys I, navigates through schemes and trials by both sides of his family, while trying to defend the name of his sisters and children. Tensions rise at court as the seemingly odd and weak prince starts demonstrating traits of a suitable heir.

A genderswapped AU fanfic for the Green children. M!Helaena focused.

read on ao3 here || fanfic tag || this work is a part of a series! ઇଓ

[bananabeatbox4]

Dreamers.

[fatherforgivethem]

“𝐈’𝐥𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫,

“… 𝐈 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐥𝐰𝐚𝐲𝐬

𝐀𝐬 𝐥𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐬 𝐈’𝐦 𝐥𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐠

𝐌𝐲 𝐛𝐚𝐛𝐲 𝐲𝐨𝐮’𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞.”

[dirtytransmasc]

Step dad Criston Cole HC:

his kids never got too big. never too big for him to (at the very least try to) hold close, to carry around, to rock them to sleep, to let them sit in his lap or be buried in his side. they're never too big to run to him for comfort. they're never to big to need their tears wiped away. his kids are never to big for him, they never 'age out' of his love and care, he will always be their dad in every way until he draws his last breath.

[carebooks]

some people who are team green are either:

1. misogynistic. either not hiding it or subtle like republicans. or subtlety not hiding it.

2. only in it because they're hot for aemond (aegon ii, helena, cole, and alicent are also contenders)

3. taking this post too seriously, guys, they're fictional teams and fictional characters

4. think both sides are neutral and ‘equally’ bad as an excuse for being team green

5. all of the above

[rhaenyra-first-of-her-name]

I need some fics where I just get to enjoy the family dynamics in the Rhaenyra 's household.