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i really don't think he kept her captive as in out of the public eye like everyone's been saying for months. i think that's a decision she made for her when she had to (2016) and i don't think it was for him or about him.
i think the references to jail and being trapped are about being stuck under the emotional weight of someone who refuses to help themselves.
i can fix him (no really i can), renegade, the alcott, hell even ylm.... the betty speeches too... they all paint a story of a man deep in his depressive bullshit who refused to help himself or accept help and she felt trapped and suffocated by the weight of it.
i think shedding that weight was a huge part of her realizing she didn't need to hide herself away as much, but i don't think hiding herself was ever about him.
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Happiness is so much more heartbreaking now considering neither Taylor nor Abigail ended up with the person who they thought they would be with for the rest of their life.
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no cos: Pulled the car off the road to the lookout. Could've followed my fears all the way down. And maybe I don't quite know what to say. But I'm here in your doorway // I thought the plane was going down. How'd you turn it right around // All the jokers dressin' up as kings. They fade to nothin' when I look at him. And I know I make the same mistakes every time. Bridges burn, I never learn, at least I did one thing right. // My one and only, my lifeline // Stop, you're losing me. I can't find a pulse. My heart won't start anymore for you // I wake up screaming from dreaming. One day I'll watch as you're leaving. And life will lose all its meaning (For the last time) // I got nothing to believe, unless you're choosing me
#she lost the most meaningful thing she had in her life the only thing she believed in her religion her lifeline#it's devastating i need to lie down#tayjoe breakup#taylor swift#taylor#joe#joe alwyn#mine
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I've not seen a single person here talking about the Taylor and Fernando Alfonso rumors, so thank you Tumblr Swifties
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i'm craving tropical smoothie cafe maybe i'll get some for lunch tomorrow after i'm done volunteering
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today's one month since the tayjoe breakup announcement and i feel like i've aged twenty years and walked into at least three different parallel realities in that time
#it's barely one month and I haven't had time to even process it because there's been twenty different things happening at all times#since then and not a single one makes sense#like literally who would have told me a month ago that today I'd be here talking about how genuinely smitten mattybatty is with her???#imagine telling hayden a month ago that matty would be involved at all 😭😭
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Harry didnt want to keep Taylor hidden in the shadows what 💀 yes they hid alot but that wasn't something that harry specifically did to her if anything that was her most public relationship ever she herself said that it was very public and they had to HIDE because of it. it's literally not the same to what joe put her through AT ALLLLLLLLL. harry also proudly said that he had no problem being seen with her “if you like cameras flashing everytime we go out baby i'm perfect" etc. like what are you even saying
Oh anon...
so first... what joe put her through was not hiding her away. this is an invention of the fandom. no where in any of the joe songs refer to being hidden as something joe wanted. Not. At. All. taylor believed she had to hide because that relationship started when people were calling for her death on twitter. i don't understand why this fandom refuses to acknowledge this unhealthy choice might have been taylor's. and in the pain of the boredom of her relationship, she realized it was unhealthy and unhelpful to her... idk
anyway, that's not the point cause it's not what i meant. I see how it could be misread though. no what i meant was that it had to be hidden. i was referring to the relationship by just his name, which is something i do sometimes to shorthand in my head lol. so when i said "joe didn't want to keep her hidden," i wasn't talking specifically about the fandom's fiction that joe told taylor he didn't want to be public, but more like that the relationship was built to require that. tayjoe was also her most public relationship. at the rep sessions, she made sure everyone knew who these songs were about. she attended events with him and confirmed in long pond that william bowery was joe. she spoke about him in interviews and referred to him publicly as her boyfriend. literally, only other guy she did that for prior was crusty hairball. the relationship's unhealthiness did not come from being hidden, it came from not being honest.
the problems in haylor, however, were connected to public vs private spheres. the backlash was about it and the fear and uncertainty but then also in the breakup the sleeping with people to make her jealous and then the only wanting her when she's with someone else and the unwillingness to commit. the difference between "out in the world" and "behind closed doors" was hugely important to them and as time went on in the relationship, it became less structured and far, far, far more secretive. using courtney cox's house so that no one would see them in hotels or near their residences is pretty.... affair-esque.
and then finally... perfect is not an honest confession. it's a desperate attempt to get her back... when he knows the issue is his lack of commitment, but being in public and okay with what people say is a form of commitment... you know, just not the one she was talking about but it was one of the forms of commitment that had been an issue so maybe that would work. i harry didn't say anything dishonest, but he wasn't organically and earnestly expressing love for being seen with her. he was trying to negotiate. so i wouldn't really use it as like an example of him being okay with being public with her. especailly since the message is literally like "i'll be seen in public hanging out with you, but i won't be in a relationship with you." which isn't really a gotcha for harry being pro-public relationship.....
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So now I guess she will truly never walk Cornelia Street again 💔
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It's so funny that when tayjoe were together swifties(not you sweetie😘😘) were literally sh*tting on harry and made fun of him for writing 'I love you'(which was sweet af) and looking sad at bbmas. And when tayjoe broke up they were calling him YB(🤢)and making poor man jokes. Yet after m*** h**** happened they are literally begging for both of them lol. And the amount of people I have seen who are predicting a haylor reunion is insane. I always thought no one took their relationship as anything beyond a fling yet even people in reddit(biggest anti haylors and the ones who hate harry ) knows about the 2014 phase and thinks they would give it a shot. I am not overly invested as in I'll be happy if they date but I will support any relationship they have(as long as it's not matt Healy). But I definitely didn't know people thought of haylor as anything beyond pr and I am shocked in the best way possible.
is now an appropriate time to say how horrendously some fans treated joe for actual years over nothing? calling him a nepo boyfriend (what does that even mean), calling him poor/jobless/boring, accusing him of all sorts of baseless things (the DV hand signal, for example), anons on here harassing blogs by saying she didn't care about him and he was a joke, i've never seen someone treated so badly for quietly minding his business and trying to stay in his lane. idk how tuned in he ever was to any of that noise, and i hope not at all, but that alone would become unbearable for a lot of people after awhile. and like i said before, we have no idea what happened between them and it's not our place to know (unless she decides to tell us), but there's no concrete reason to believe he betrayed her in some massive way right now. people grow apart. the dissolution of a six+ year relationship is going to leave hurt and scars and wreckage even if it WAS somewhat amicable, because you're losing a whole life you've built together, and whatever plans you might have had for the future. so of course she's hurting, i'm sure he is too, but i'm just not ready yet to skewer him and put him on the list with JM, JG, and CH as this terrible partner when all we knew was him being a good and decent and kind one for years (from more commentary than just taylor's). the tweets begging for joe to fight for her and to come back are funny, but also very sad - it's like the epitome of you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone. (i also don't think ANY of us were prepared for this massive of a shift in one month's time. during tour. with a re-recording coming soon. it's a lot to process.)
then with harry, i've never understood making fun of what he wrote if you're a fan of what she writes, because they're both drawing on confessional personal experiences? where is the logic? he's the only instance where we've gotten the other side of the conversation! i think the (totally idiotic) pr accusation started to really die down several years ago as more and more people got into the truth of their relationship and when he repeatedly praised her songwriting (the only people who accuse them of that now are detached from reality akljsdkljf). but yeah it's quite the mood switch to see the subreddits bringing him up in a positive way and acknowledging that he's a sweet and talented guy after ripping him to shreds for no reason last year. :/ although that's what he deserves to have said!
i've also never seen swifties and even people who don't like her so united in an opinion as they are in collectively being in shambles over this development. 😭 and as i said before, there's a difference between a bad boy edgy persona and actively causing harm with bigoted words/actions - you can only use racism as "satire" so many times before it stops being a joke, or make sexist comments and follow someone like andr*w t*te without being legitimately misogynistic. i just. *head in hands* someone on the sub said, "people keep saying 'let her live her life' - and i absolutely am, but i don't have to be comfortable with the way she's doing it when it involves racist boys, and i don't have to support it," and someone else said, "being hurt can make you do crazy things, and she is only a human just like all of us," and i honestly feel there's room for both thoughts here. we can understand it wholly and let her live, and that doesn't mean we have to support it ourselves.
meanwhile let us just keep manifesting haylor friends era. anything feels possible at this point!
#i've been mad about the way people discussed and treated joe for years and even without him and in light of everything i'm still pressed#because it was unfair and never warranted#i don't believe T & H will ever get back together but honestly who even knows what might happen everything feels unreal#i would not have a problem w/ m@tty if there wasn't a laundry list of things to have a problem with.#idc about him consensually kissing fans idc about him eating raw steak as performance art though it's gross to me personally#idc what he looks like that's mean/subjective.#but everyone who's unhappy bc of the legitimately upsetting comments and actions has a reason for that#sorry this is more into gossipy areas than usual but we're going through A Time!#anonymous#letterbox#thrown out speeches
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Not any of those anons participated yesterday but I am genuinely shocked by the number of people who romanticize Taylor/zac while saying Taylor/harry was pr on reddit. I think its mostly because we actually saw them being interviewed together and heard them interacting with each other so people tend to think their dynamic as cute. Meanwhile neither haylor or tayjoe have that 'interactions' filmed other than few pics so people tend to be dismissive. I remember when rep came out people were saying most songs were about calvin eventhough narrative doesn't make sense or taylor herself said it wasnt
yes! i also think people got super sick of haylor and will try and minimize that relationship as possible. and there's this bias towards each song being about a different person, so people will try to cram as many muses as they can into an album when like,,, she wasn't that inspired by that many people
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oh my fucking goood like she was dropping hints wanting to get married and then in the end he didnt want to marry her
i don’t think not wanting to get married makes somebody a bad person, like it’s his choice. but the absolute bullshit of this is letting her believe that was the trajectory of their relationship and then not following through??? you should’ve made it clear the very first time the subject was brought up???
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I wouldn't celebrate just yet think they still together on the low
if people announces it then it's 100% legit. same with the tayjoe split
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31 things I am convinced Jaylor do
*vacation edition*
Play a game and the winner gets to pick where they go for their next holiday.
Joe picking smaller towns so that they can be themselves in peace without the media.
Taylor planning surprise trips and not telling Joe where they are going.
Making it a habit to go to Nashville and London at least 2 times each in a year.
Joe flying to Taylor's tour destination if he has a vacation day, and Taylor flying to his shooting spot if she has an off day.
Joe records and takes pictures of Taylor all the time 'to document the memories', but it's really to see her smile and roll her eyes at him.
Joe taking Taylor on a piggy back ride in the water because she's scared of sea urchins.
Taylor sending Jack random voice memos of sounds and lyrics that she wants to use in her next song/album, while Joe just shakes his head at her, muttering about how lucky he is to be so inspired by her constantly, and see her work.
Taylor gets scared every time she does that because she feels that Joe will get annoyed at her.
Joe smiling at her and telling her that he loves seeing her work, which calms her down.
Sunset walks on the beach are a must, they can never go back home without doing it at least once.
Taylor is always packed a week in advance and Joe is never packed.
Joe surprises Taylor with trips and not telling Taylor.
They both take off days in September to go to The Lakes.
Joe made this a tradition/habit that there are no phones/anything work related after 6 pm, unless it's urgent.
Taylor seeing a tabloid of her and it makes her feel badly about herself, and Joe reads it, rips it apart and tells her exactly why the tabloid is wrong.
Joe always surprises Taylor with a dinner, the night before they're leaving, at an extremely romantic restaurant.
They try to go hiking or do something they have never done before.
Taylor convinces Joe to go to a waterpark, they have disguises so no one recognises them.
Taylor made it a rule to have one day strictly for photos.
Joe buys Taylor some souvenirs, and Taylor does the same.
Taylor and Joe collect seashells if they're at a beach.
They try to go to beachy places.
They make it a point to see a movie in black and white.
Taylor surprises Joe with matching pyjamas.
Joe surprises Taylor by cooking her dinner.
Taylor takes Joe to a museum, because [he seems like the type to like them] he once mentioned how he loved learning about different cultures, and he loved history, and museums.
If in Paris, they put a lock on love lock bridge.
They talk about all the places they could get a destination wedding.
At the airport, they both buy at least 1 new book, and chocolate.
Taylor insists on buying the country's signature and famous wines.
#taylor swift#taylornation#joe alwyn#william bowery#vacation#wedding#jaylor#otp#dream couple#13#imagine#taytay#teffy#taylurking#tayjoe#toe#fan#swiftie#swifties#indian swiftie
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Taylor and Joe over the years.
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On one hand we ain't around to witness TayJoe breaking up but on the other can't believe we missed four rerecords
I Miss You, I’m Sorry
pairings: Taylor Swift x gn!reader (platonic)
Summary: in which you’ve been at everyone of Taylor’s opening shows in the pit since the Fearless tour, but you’re not at the opening of the eras tour
warnings: angst, unspecified chronic illness, reader death, this was supposed to be happy, spelling mistakes, sad Tay.
word count: 1.5k
You had been to everyone of Taylor Swift’s tours. It was a known fact between the Swifties. So much so that people went go up to you at the beginning of the Reputation Stadium Tour and asked for your autograph.
You and Taylor weren’t necessarily friends, but she was well acquainted with you and how your wear obscure outfits to each show. She often found herself scouring the front rows of each show for a familiar, comforting face.
Many videos had showed how Taylor’s eyes would light up when she saw you and vice versa. How she’d wave giddily, and hold back a laugh at your costume and how you’d bounce up and down, screaming the lyrics louder than anyone else.
You weren’t the first Swiftie, but you had been crowned the biggest Swiftie.
At the end of the Glendale show, you had stayed behind to take a mass amount of photos in your costume. That was the first time you were taken backstage. Part of you thought that you were being kidnapped (three men in all black, looking all emotionless and brooding leading you somewhere dark was suspicious to say the least), but then Taylor was stood in front of you with a wide smile.
Your eyes were wide and your mouth was agape, not to mention that you could hear your heart beating in your ears. “H-Hi?” You squeaked out, afraid that if you spoke too quickly you’d wake from this dream.
“Hi! Y/N, I’m-“
“Taylor-fucking-Swift,” you cut her off with a gasp.
Tears welled up in your eyes. You were supposed to meet her at the Reputation Secret Sessions in New York, but something had come up, so you didn’t get to. Part of you wished this had happened three years ago when you weren’t so weak, but it was happening nonetheless.
“Can i hug you?” Taylor asked.
You nodded rapidly and Taylor leaned forward to wrap her arms around you. You melted into the hug, sniffling softly, “I can die happily now.”
Taylor chuckled, “I missed you at the Secret Sessions,” there was a frown in her voice that made you feel guilty.
“I caught the flu,” You lied, “I didn’t want to make you or anyone else sick. I really wanted to go, though.”
The blonde smiled, still hugging you, “Well, when my next album comes out, I’ll have a super secret session just for you. Since you’re my biggest fan,” She said and there was some truth behind her words.
You had been invited to Taylor’s house to listen to the songs on Lover a few days before the first Lover Secret Session. To say you adored each song (Death By A Thousand Cuts being your favourite) was an understatement.
Taylor didn’t notice how jittery you got when Soon You’ll Get Better was playing. It seemed like you had related especially to that song, whether you were the best friend of the person in the hospital room or you were the person in the hospital room.
Your sister, who was also a big fan of Taylor and had been accompanying you to each tour, had always skipped that song whenever playing the Lover album in order, it hurt.
When Midnights came out, you were practically promised a world tour since the Lover Fest was cancelled due to the global pandemic. That was a hard time Your you and your older sister. As if you weren’t sick enough as it was, you had caught the coronavirus and had been forced into a hospital where your family couldn’t visit you for months.
But it got better. The rerelease of Fearless and the release of Folklore came and some people had spammed your instagram account with the news of finding out that you had helped Taylor write the bonus song. Then not long after, you had been allowed visitors and your sister never left your side again.
Though you were bedridden, you kept a smile on your face. Most people weren’t bothered by your sudden disappearance, it had happened a few times in the past whenever you had gotten sick, because you always came back with a brighter smile.
Then Midnights came out and Taylor announced her Eras tour and TikTok was going wild. Some fans were complaining about the price, some were wondering if you had gotten tickets. That led to people beginning to worry. You had never been gone for two years, and worse, your sister was gone, too.
So, when March 17th rolled up, and Taylor opened the tour with Miss Americana And The Heartbreak Prince, Taylor and her fans searched for you in the crowd. You weren’t there. And the second night in Glendale, you weren’t there either, but your sister was.
And that gave Taylor a little bit of hope. She waved at your sister, who waved back, fiddling with bottom of the top that you wore to the opening of the Fearless tour back in 2009.
At the end of the show, your sister had been led backstage where Taylor had changed and attacked her with a hug. The blonde broke away with a grin, “Hi! How are you? It’s been ages!”
“I’m good, yeah, it has.” Your sister responded, “Life’s been cruel, you know?”
The blonde nodded and looked down, “Where’s?-“
“Y/N told me to give you this,” Your sister held out a diary, making Taylor falter.
“What’s this?” She asked, frowning at the title of it.
Your sister sniffled, “They said- They said that they’re sorry that they couldn’t make it this year, that something came up. They really wanted to be here, Tay.”
The blonde felt her cheeks begin to dampen as your sister continued talking.
“They wrote this when they realised that they wouldn’t-“ A sob tried to claw its way out of your sister’s throat. “M-make it.”
The blonde shook her head.
Whilst the two of you weren’t necessarily friends, you knew each other well enough to know that you didn’t need to label whatever it was going on between the two of you. Your sister’s shoulder’s shook slightly as Taylor took the diary and hugged the woman.
“I’m so sorry,” She apologised profusely. “I’m sorry. I’m so sorry.”
A few days later, It was the Las Vegas shows. And, though Taylor hadn’t quite recovered from the news, she couldn’t just not go and perform. So, swallowing down her tears, she made her way onto the stage and sang like she wasn’t feeling all of these negative emotions.
And when it came to her surprise songs, she was sat at the piano, blinking away her tears. She cleared her throat and looked at her fans with a small smile, “So, uh, How is everybody?”
They began screaming on top of each other, making her chuckle slightly.
“Um, I’m sure you’ve all heard by now, but my good friend, Y/N Y/L/N past away last year. Their- their sister told me after the second show in Glendale and they wrote down a diary, wording every thought that had ever crossed their mind about me. They said- they said if they ever died and we became friends they wouldn’t want me to cry for them because they’re ’no one special,’ but they were probably one of the best people that I have ever met.
“Y/N drew a sketch of what their next outfit to one of my tours would be,” The image went up on the screen, before a series of photos of you at tours, smiling at Taylor and the camera. “I just- I wanted to say that even though we didn’t do labels, you were probably my best friend, Y/N,” She sniffled, “And I love you.”
The chords to your favourite song began and as Taylor tried to keep the lump in her throat down and her tears at bay, and a slideshow that your sister had composed began playing in the background.
Your life played out in front of everyone from beginning to finish, from 1994 to 2022. All twenty eight years. The people in the audience watched as you lost your parents and then yourself.
And then in the end, a photo of you grinning tiredly flashed onto the screen as the song faded out. And just as it ended, your voice sounded through the speakers.
Is this recording? Yeah? I’m going to assume it is. Okay, um, it’s February 21st— Happy Birthday, Joe. Uh, i don’t know what I want to say. I mean, thank you to everyone that has made my life worth living. I mean, at fifteen I wore a stupid outfit to a Taylor Swift concert and now I’m friends with her? It’s kind of sad knowing that I’ll never get to hear Speak Now Taylor’s Version, but oh well.
I’m going to be honest, I’m so scared to die. Every night for the past six months I’ve been scared to fall asleep, knowing that there will be a chance that I don’t wake up. I don’t want to die, I’m terrified. I don’t want to leave my sister alone and I know that she doesn’t want me to know, but she’s been crying herself to sleep since we got the news.
I just want to know if you’ll look after her for me? I’m all she’s got. Thank- thank you. I love you.
There was silence followed by Taylor’s small, ‘I love you, too.’ And then cheers from the crowd. Some people were announcing their admiration for you and some were crying.
“I miss you, Y/N.” Taylor whispered. “I’m sorry for not being there with you.”
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What’s your favourite Taylor Swift song?
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