#swedish radfem

[there-are-4-lights]

(this is a rant based on a conversation i had yesterday, i wanted to write it down as a time capsule/diary entry type thing about where The Debate is right now. links are to stuff in swedish)

right now im super apprehensive about how the self-id/single sex spaces discussion is gonna go in sweden. a major difference between sweden and the uk is we have established women’s orgs on our side, high ups in the womens shelter movement are speaking out etc.

and im seeing how that can go in 2 different directions. as an example, recently there’s been articles and awareness about the situation for young women/teen girls in institutional care. amongst other things, sexual assault by male staff is an issue. the board says they want to fix it by “hiring more women”. the main organisation of women’s shelters demands single-sex staff, so males don’t get access to vulnerable girls.

at the same time, we have the self-id/trans debate bubbling up. this month there’s been a handful of articles and debate on the issue, but we’re waiting on the government to announce their (overdue) proposition. (So we don’t know right now if it’s full self-id or not! if i remember it correctly the most recent proposal from last year disappointed basically everyone by having all the gender-id language but wasn’t full self-id because it needed some “simplified process of confirmation”, so the self-id advocates were mad about it)

which brings me to what this post is actually about: the fork in the road where we’re at. there’s so much polarisation and so many questions that the right/nationalist side owns already, like how the drag queen story hour thing is only ever presented as a “liberal gays” vs “straight nationalist conservatives and alt righters” issue. right now, at this point in time, the media is actually talking about single sex spaces as “trans advocates” vs “(some) women’s organisations”. and that’s an important advantage imo. one that we don’t want to lose.

re: the example about the institutionalised girls: there are two ways this could go. one way is that people understand that the women’s orgs are right to demand single-sex services for vulnerable girls and women.

the other way this could go is trans activists shouting about how women aren’t actually demanding single-sex care because the girls are vulnerable, they’re just using it to be mean about trans women. and they’ll use the fact that various women’s orgs collaborate on articles to undermine them. (look, these womens orgs that we thought were reasonable work with the really terfy ones!)

[wild-wombytch]

*looking above your shoulders at the Wiki page* Ok, queen! I'm buying her books next time I do a trip at the bookshop. She's the proof we can actually make things move. I wish more leftists actually cared about the working class (as they did and were supposed to continue doing initially, before their focus shifted to gender politics and quite literally defending the oppression of Muslim women in the West and dismantling women's rights in general)! She's quite incredible to continue expressing her opinions despite being censored time after time. I never heard of her before but I'm really glad I do now! Thanks for letting us know about her!

I feel bad for everyone who isn't swedish and doesn't have the national treasure that is kajsa ekis ekman

[handweavers]

you stupid swedish racist idiot i am not american and not talking about the us you just think anything that isn't Eurocentric is us centric + Swedes who move to Southeast Asia call themselves Expats like any other Westerner and I know this because I HAVE MET THEM + you're a radfem too so you should just kill yourself at this point

[qurbanjaan]

Welcome to qurbanjaan’s ˚ ༘♡ ⋆｡˚

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About me ੈ✩‧₊˚

♡You can address me as qurban, I’m 19 years old and this blog is nothing but reflections of my life — random, crude and inconsistent thoughts and opinions.

♡I’m half Pashtun half Brazilian, ex-muslim (atheist) and a honor killing attempt survivor. Lived in Afghanistan, Brazil, Austria and Angola. I consider myself a RADFEM, struggle with anorexia nervosa and PROFESSIONALLY diagnosed with PTSD according to DMS-V and more specifically diagnosed with CPTSD according to ICD-11.

♡I speak English, Portuguese, Swedish and German fluently and intermediate Pashto. Feel free to interact with me in any of them.

I’m anti-religion, anti-ed and pro-recovery, anti-cosmetic surgery and anti-veiling.

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Some of my interests include .ೃ࿐

♡Aesthetics, skin and hair care, nails, drawing, reading, animals, archeology, religion, linguistics, feminism and women’s rights and healthcare, fashion, music and bakery.

♡I appreciate the diversity of women’s beauty and I have an obsession with Rwanda and Sweden.

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Please do not interact if you are ⋆.ೃ࿔*:･

♡A man, younger than 16 years old, disrespectful, and unwilling to listen in general, here to search for arguments and to pick up fights, a NSFW page, racist/xenophobic or homophobic.

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What to expect from my blog ༊*·˚

As I mentioned up there, my blog is solely a public diary to discuss my experiences and opinions, some things here may be contradictory or controversial. I’m up to talking and befriending other women here.

TW!! THIS BLOG TOUCHES SENSITIVE TOPICS: ED, MISOGYNY, VIOLENCE, MENTAL HEALTH AND RELIGION

[unichrome]

are you a radfem?

no I'm Swedish

[lesbianp1lled]

radfems focus on shaving bc women are treated poorly if they don’t shave

There was a Swedish model who was sent extreme rape and death threats for doing a shoot with hairy legs,, she was blonde, the hair was SO light and people still found her disgusting.

Shaving is like wearing makeup. Why do women do it? Is it really “for themselves” or would they not shave if they didn’t feel the need to? What about body hair on women makes people uncomfortable?

I don’t think looking into that makes someone crazy

Ok it sucks for that woman but that is how the model industry is, if you’re not prepared for the criticism and people analysing you then you shouldn’t do it. Don’t interpret this the wrong way, I do think it’s horrible she got them threats but at the same time she was a model and the average person isn’t going to get those kind of threats for not shaving. You might get rude comments or staring but at that point it’s time to put your big girl pants on and just don’t let it bother you.

Radfems say the most basic things about womanhood and think it’s revolutionary. Of course shaving isn’t entirely just for yourself and most people know this. Like I said previously I don’t care if you shave or don’t shave, i’d never shame someone no matter what they do with their body because I simply don’t care.

Also I don’t shave anyway but if there is a point in the future where I did want to that would be ok because I don’t live my life wanting to fight the patriarchy for my every move just to get some validation from the chronically online radfems that don’t do any real life activism.

[bimboficationblues]

@torschlusspanikattack the “sex work = rape because of the impersonal domination of the market” is a nonstarter both because (contrary to your claim) we do have other language available for talking about forms of coercion/domination/exploitation, sexual or otherwise, and because it makes it impossible to parse personal harm that can/does take place in the course of sex work. it’s a framework that can’t distinguish between tricks that were okay or fine to deal with and times where you were physically assaulted or actively manipulated - it’s also clearly a holdover framework from before it was widely possible to make and distribute pornography or solicit virtual clients from your apartment in an afternoon.

the thing about “wage slavery” or like comparisons between waged labor and feudal forced labor is that many nevertheless still understand that it is not *literally* the thing it’s being compared to (I am not literally a slave or a serf for having to go to work, and frankly I think the whole comparison is unnecessary at all outside of rhetorical agitation - capitalist work is its own horror independent of any pre-capitalist social form). the radfem “prostitution = rape” framework fundamentally does not admit this, it is not a metaphor or even really a comparison, it is a statement that the two are identical. as is often the case in radfem stuff (the Swedish sex work law that was expressly designed to make Sweden apprar more feminist regardless of harms to actual sex worker, or liberal Mackinnonite theories/model codes of pornography as a violation of civil rights) it gets hung up on signifiers and symbols in a way that obfuscates actual harm - what sex workers would actually materially benefit from is secondary because at least we’ve prevented the abstract concept of rape (while creating incentives for tangible instances of it to occur). I don’t think that is a very good grounds for either a sexual ethics or a sexual politics (the latter of which is the thing actually at hand).

the other point is, frankly, not worth responding to! it’s just no-evidence intuition - the fact that people sometimes acquiesce to “quid pro quo” sexual harassment situations or remain in abusive situations when there are tradeoffs to leaving illustrates that your claim that people would always rather experience non-sexual coercion over sexual coercion is not like some universal law or even broadly true - it’s both overreaching, and takes what people might *think* about themselves to be the actual truth of how people behave. hell, the existence of people going into sex work as an alternative to other forms of coerced work disputes it - some people do so as a last resort, some don't, your framework needs to be able to account for both. (this is like when people are like "ooh prison is worse than the death penalty" - the people actually subject to the latter do not all think that!) we are literally responding to someone who says “this sphere of human activity isn’t innately different or special to me” and you’re going “I think it is, so it must be!”. and the whole “sex is a unique special ~sacred~ site of human activity” is both woowoo, and the underlying framework of the many forms of sexual repression that hide or naturalize sexual violence. the OP used the word mystification, and it was apt!

and it’s also just asinine to say “well you have to give radfems credit on these two points before you critique them” no, you don’t! that’s literally the point of critiquing them!

[friendlymathematician]

a fellow swedish radfem, i love to see it!

<3

[askgothamshitty]

Do you have recommend articles/essays debunking a swedish study that says that su1c1de rates on trans individuals go up after transition and is very popular in radfem tumblr and GC sites? I would greatly appreciate it

Anonymous

29 May

I have a TikTok on it! https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRoFxSxP/?t=1 I talk about how the researcher behind the study has come forward to say the results have been misinterpreted and misrepresented

[robofucks]

hi I'm not new to tumblr. I'm robofucks, my name suggests what I do.

dni: minors, harry potter fans, dream smp fans, terfs, radfems, transmeds, otherkinphobic, objectumphobic, and other basic dni.

pronouns: it/its

More under the cut

tags you can block:

#objection-objectum -> post about objectum

#robo-recordings -> general posting tag, most text based

#robofuckery -> things about tech and stuff. Sometimes I wanna fuck them, sometimes I don't, but they all go under this tag.

other stuff to note

I'm objectum and I have possessions that I've attached to, and here are there names, relationship with them, and pronouns:

Grayson/Greyley -> a blanket with a soft grey side, and white sherpa on the other. (Platonic) (He/him)

Michaelwave/Mikes/Mikewave -> an LG smart microwave. They have a silver body with a black interface, and sing a lovely soft tune when done or at a halfway done mark. (Platonic) (He/him/they/them)

Topsy/LapLap/Spacebud -> my laptop. He has a silver chassis silver, but decorated with various space stickers of astronauts and rockets. (Platonic) (He/him/they/them)

Patches/Qilt -> a multi patch quilt with various patterns and colors on the topside, and a white underside. Torn and tattered as some patches on the topside and a hurt seam on the other. (Platonic) (She/hers/it/its)

Iggy -> My LG Stylo 4 phone. He has a silver white backside with one camera. He has a crack at the top of the left corner. She does not wear any cases. (Platonic) (He/him/she/her)

Peera -> My PC tower. Gamer's Republican brand/Asus ROG G10. The front of her case juts out, and has a singular jagged line of light. (Platonic) (She/her)

L3D (LED for screen readers)/Bub -> My monitor hooked up to Peera. I do not remember the brand. White case, small and minimalist. (Romantic/Platonic) (He/him)

Riez -> My BF's PC tower. Swedish brand. Three RGB lit fans inside, a clear side panel, and larger than Peera. The RGB fans can either go through all colors, or be selected to be on certain colors: Riez is mostly on the red one. (Platonic) (He/him/they/them)

[cruelsister-moved]

what is the angle here though like obviously if a woman starts going on about how it's so hard to be white and refugees need to be expelled u know she's a freak but that goes beyond dogwhistling into just whistling really so like are you saying a woman complaining about her bf is a dogwhistle like and implying it's automatically manipulative cult recruitment if a woman is asking you for sympathy??? i just dont get the take here

[there-are-4-lights]

VICTORIA SMITH HAGS IN SWEDISH!

Holy shit this is amazing! Keep this in mind for future gift-buying, and order it at your library!

I had no idea a Swedish translation was in the works so this was a nice surprise

[cynosurus]

Swedish journalist Kajsa Ekis Ekman* rages in response that she always knew bdsm was a capitalist patriachical conspiracy, and demands it be outlawed.

*notorious vitriolic radfem transphobe

I read somewhere that Sam was a dog in the first draft of Lord of the Rings. Which goes some way in explaining his extremely affectionate behaviour towards Frodo.

But the British public were so sensitive to cruelty against animals that Tolkien had to change him into a working class man instead.

Appearently a new edition based on the dog draft is on its way in the US. The publishers holding the rights are conservative and feel there is high time that something is done about the fact that the relationship between Frodo and Sam keeps getting interpreted as gay.

[lavendeerlesbian]

I hate to break it to you, but it's not trans people that are cutting their children off from all outside contact to control them. It's not trans adults that are isolating trans children. It's people that have decided transness is something that a child can be tortured out of. You know, just like you!

They literally are, though? Trans "elders" teach children what to say to streamline them into getting them on hormones, or how to get CPS to take them away from their parents who don't immediately agree to put them on hormones, scare them into thinking they will die if they don't get immediately affirmed by their parents, will literally give them hormones behind their parents' backs, etc. Why else would we have such a major influx of people identifying as trans, as well as a major influx of detransitioners? Why do you think the Tavistock Gender Clinic in the UK is currently being sued by 1,000 families of people who were rushed into transitioning? Or why Sweden and Finland have changed their recommendations and do not encourage physical transition anymore? There's even a Swedish documentary about children being given poor care by the industry, I'll link it to you.

Contrary to what you might believe, radfems don't just hide from the world and spread around hate for no reason. Radfems regularly engage with contrary opinions and look at all povs (not cult behavior). Radfems don't try and control what other people consume, don't follow the BITE model, don't encourage others to isolate or change their identities, etc.

[diamondsableye]

TERF misinformation going around - and why it’s wrong.

So I got some advice from @terf-tips (Satire account DW), @tifs-against-terfs and @uncanny-tranny so I’m gonna follow that advice.

So this is an ultra condensed version because I know super long posts can be pr intimidating, lets get to the point.  Anon sends in repulsive ask to a TERF blog, I came across the ask while scrolling and found a TERF in the replies.  TERF says that dysphoria is 100% social.  I provide reasons why it isn’t.  TERF then claims that transitioning never treats or helps dysphoria basically ever (while using some extremely transphobic phrasing mind you.)  I was like “WTF no??” and gave resources, and told them to prove their claim.  TERF made a post that for one didn’t even try proving their initial claim, and for another used incredibly dishonest tactics to try and prove it.  I wrote a super substantial post debunking it.  The problem?  TERF turned off replies so no one could see my debunk, and it’s currently catching on in radfem communities.  That’s alright though, because I don’t want to give any more exposure to TERF OP, so here I am.

Study 1 mentioned: “Proof” that being trans was a social contagion, IE “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria” (If someone ever brings this up, laugh of them because they obviously see scientific research as a joke) -Research conductor did not interview the actual children, they interviewed the parents instead -The parents were all contacted through gender critical and radfem websites only, creating a huge selection bias -Research conductor’s work wasn’t removed due to “Trans activists”, they were kicked out of academia for being a shit researcher.

Study 2 mentioned: Swedish study analyzing long term effects of SRS -Study compared post SRS trans people to the general population which is not proportional or accurate and messes with the data’s findings -Study acknowledges that they did not correct for this and that the data is skewed -Study does not call for the end of transition, but rather that trans people should have also have other resources available to them for their mental health -The researchers themselves saw TERFs using this study as a way to discredit transition and made a public statement that their data should not be taken this way

Study 3 mentioned: not a study, an article from The Guardian from 2004 -Article too old to be considered accurate anymore -Data was even older and analyzed by a single professor -Data only shows that the older studies weren’t organized well and that the data was inconclusive, nothing along the lines condemning transition

Study 4 mentioned: TERF OP “cites” a report from 2014 -Just shows a screenshot of a conclusion which references the study -Didn’t list the actual study itself, nor the report which referenced it -TERF OP is likely lying and obscuring data -Shown conclusion itself just said that data was inconclusive

Study 5 mentioned: 2016 report on the medical status of trans people from the Obama Administration, TERF OP framed it as looking at all trans medical care -Only looked at the results of SRS -Only looked at trans people 65+ and on medicare -Once again, data was only inconclusive

If you see any of these studies used at all by TERFs, ignore them, they are complete bunk. TERF OP finishes their post with a long ramble about how they’re only trying to help trans people.  My message to anyone who is trans or supports trans people is this: no.  They are lying.  TERFs absolutely do not care about you or your well being at all, if they did they wouldn’t be TERFs.  They only want to make you think they care about you.  Memorize this, if you are trans, or hell even just GNC, TERFs are not on your side, and they never will be.  They may not explicitly say it, but they are fundamentally against your existence.  Remember this and take it to heart.

Below the cut here I have in depth sources about the benefit of medically transitioning, and screenshots of the original debunk.  Transitioning helps trans people, this is not up for debate.  You don’t have to but I encourage you to reblog this to help stop the spread of misinformation.  Take care and stay safe y’all.

TRANSITIONING HELPS TRANS PEOPLE:

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/ -ENORMOUS meta-meta-analysis on transgender people and the effect gender transition has on their mental health -Of 56 studies, 52 indicated transitioning has a positive effect on the mental health of transgender people and 4 indicated it had mixed or no results. -ZERO studies indicated gender transitioning has negative results

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/4/696 -Longitudinal study on the effectiveness of puberty suppression & sex reassignment surgery on trans individuals in improving mental outcomes -Unambiguously positive results - results indicate puberty suppression, support of medical professionals & SRS have markedly beneficial outcomes to trans individuals’ mental health and productivity.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x -Meta-analysis of studies concerning individuals who underwent sex reassignment surgery -80% of individuals reported significant improvement in dysphoria -78% of individuals reported significant improvement in psychological symptoms -72% of individuals reported significant improvement in sexual function

https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567%2816%2931941-4/fulltext -Children who socially transition report levels of depression and anxiety which closely match levels reported by cisgender children, indicating social transition massively decreases the risk factor of both.

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-03/tes-sdc030615.php -“A new study has confirmed that transgender youth often have mental health problems and that their depression and anxiety improve greatly with recognition and treatment of gender dysphoria”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223813/ -Longitudinal study which indicates transgender people have a lower quality of life than the general population. -However, that quality of life raises dramatically with ‘Gender Affirming Treatment’, the nature of which is detailed extensively in-text.

SCREENSHOTS OF OG POST DEBUNKING TERF (WARNING, EXTREMELY LONG READ): https://ibb.co/Rg6sP2g (Part 1) https://ibb.co/3hdgQVS (Part 2) https://ibb.co/8gTqWjk (Part 3) https://ibb.co/XCJTPDc (Part 4) https://ibb.co/7JyJM22 (Part 5)