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Xander & Soleil Father-Daughter Support
tried my hand at what i'd imagine their in-game support would be c: accompanying fanart here!
C-SUPPORT:
Soleil: *Sigh* Xander: … Soleil: … Soleil: *SIGH* Xander: Is it really so much to ask that you focus, Soleil? Soleil: But this is boring! There’s way too much to do. Xander: Perhaps if you would participate in your duties as a princess rather than flirt with the women in town, you’d have more time on your hands. Soleil: Humph. I still don’t get why I had to get locked in here with you. You could’ve at least given me a pretty tutor! Xander: On the contrary, this method has brought me success before. Xander: I dealt with your father’s philandering in precisely this way, and he stopped toying with the feelings of women all together. Soleil: You know why he stopped flirting with girls? You got MARRIED, Papa! Xander: Study. Soleil: Ugh. Fine. Xander: … Soleil: … Soleil: You’re looking sleepy. Xander: I’m not. Xander: You won’t be getting out of this early. I won’t leave until you’re finished. Soleil: Yeah, because you’ll fall asleep and it’ll take me all night… Xander: And what was that? Soleil: Nothing! Just working. Xander: … Soleil: … Xander: … … … Xander: Zzz… Soleil: Oh wow. He’s actually asleep. Soleil: I don’t wanna wake him up. I guess I could leave now! Soleil: Though… I might need a nap, too. My eyes seriously hurt after staring at all this. Soleil: Hmm… Soleil: …Zzz…
B-SUPPORT:
Soleil: Papa! Xander: Hello, you. Soleil: Hi! Listen, I have big, big news! Xander: Oh? And what’s that? Soleil: I’m getting married! Xander: You’re what? Soleil: Yup! Isn’t that something? Xander: I… To who? Soleil: Who? Oh, well. It’s a… Secret. She’s really shy. Xander: …Is that so. Soleil: Uh huh. So, um, anyway. You don’t need to keep tabs on me anymore, because I’m gonna be completely faithful. Just like Dad, heh! Xander: Ah. Of course. Xander: Though, Soleil. You understand, as you’re a princess, that there is a certain procedure which must be undergone when it comes to marriage. Soleil: Huh? Xander: It isn’t something as simple as putting a ring on a finger, it’s a royal affair. Xander: You must introduce her to our family formally, as well as engage her in the courtship process—there’s etiquette to be learned, and we’ll have to make completely certain she doesn’t intend you any harm. Xander: Not just anyone can marry a princess, you know. Soleil: Oh. Soleil: Um. Okay. Yeah, okay. Soleil: I’ll… Introduce you to her. Sometime soon. Xander: Thank you. We’ll be expecting her. Soleil: …Okay. I’ll, uh, go tell her! Bye! Xander: Goodbye. Xander: … Xander: ...That girl.
A-SUPPORT:
Soleil: …Hi, Papa. Xander: Soleil, what’s that expression for? Soleil: I, um. I need to confess something. Soleil: There’s no girl, I’m not getting married. I just didn’t want you to know I was out flirting again. Soleil: It was all a ruse. I’m really sorry I lied, I probably got everyone so excited. Xander: Soleil… Xander: Thank you for telling me. Xander: Though you don’t need to worry, I didn’t tell anyone. I knew from the beginning that you weren’t really engaged. Soleil: Oh, man. Was I that obvious? Soleil: …So I’m in huge trouble now, huh? Xander: It’s true that your actions aren’t exactly becoming of a princess. But I would like to clarify something with you. Xander: I’m not particularly upset that you’re flirting. But I’ll be strict with you if it gets in the way of your duties, as it has been. Xander: It was just the same with your father—he was causing trouble, and I felt I needed to step in to prevent it. Xander: You don’t need to lie to me. If you’d like to to spend your free time with girls, you’re welcome to. But it mustn’t continue to hinder your learnings and responsibilities as a princess of Nohr. Soleil: Oh. Soleil: Wow, I wasn’t expecting that. I really thought you were going to be angry with me. Xander: No. I only want you to understand. Soleil: I think I get it. No, I KNOW I do. Soleil: I admit that I was putting things off for a little too long. Soleil: I’ll do better, I promise. I’ll devote more time to my princess things. Xander: I’m glad to hear it. And thank you for being honest with me. Soleil: I’ll make sure I tell you when I really get married, okay? Xander: Alright. But not too soon. Soleil: Well of course not, Papa! I haven’t met all the women in the world yet!
#long ass post under the cut warning#xanlow#(implied)#i was trying to write this how supports tend to be written in-game cause i think it's rly charming~#also throwing my hc that soleil calls xander 'papa' at u. im throwing it go catch it!!!#(how it goes in my head is siegbert also used to call him that when he was small but eventually switched to father)#like i said i might make like. a proper edit of this sometime. or make a little mod for myself and maybe record a video of it?#we'll see!!! we shall see#dots writes#<- is that a tag i have?#whatever. gjdkfsjdf#dots on the soapbox
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“Ophelia and I are rather close now. But at first, well...”
“She rather hated me.”
#their canon support is something else lol#'ROYAL TADPOLE'#'ophelia why ; - ;'#;ship: siegbert and ophelia
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Correct Fe14 Quote 19
Siegbert: Ah! I actually came up with a fun challenge for you? Then let the Great Spider-Web Geometry Extravaganza begin.
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replaying revelations and im making my favorite meme infant (nyx!siegbert)
#yosu's thoughts#fe: fates#nyx fe#siegbert fe#nyx/xander’s supports are so good y’all don’t even KNOW
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Update 2.0.0 of Unofficial Gay Fates is here! After over three years of working on this project, we've finally hit 2.0.0, and wanted to make this update a little more special. This update adds in a new title screen for the mod, changing the 'Fates' on the title screen to a rainbow. This is edited for each route of the game! In addition, the cutscene that plays upon attaining your first S support now has two gender-neutral figures, instead of a man and woman's. Big thanks to Tru for making both of these edits!
In addition, we've also added another paralogue edit, this time for Shigure. As both Jakob and Felicia appear in the intro depending on your Avatar's gender, there are two different variants. One for if Jakob is married to Azura, and another if Felicia is.
As for added supports, 28 have been added! They are as follows:
Romantic: Effie x Nyx S, Laslow x Ryoma, Hana x Effie S, Reina x Benny, Silas x Saizo, Niles x Izana, Nina x Hisame, Saizo x Camilla, Jakob x Leo, Niles x Azama, Anna x Orochi, Jakob x Izana, Saizo x Xander, Asugi x Siegbert, Scarlet x Hinata
Platonic: Silas/Gunter, Niles/Soleil, Elise/Beurka
Parent Child: Hinoka/Soleil PC, Camilla/Asugi PC, Azama/Nina PC, Niles/Mitama PC, Silas/Asugi PC, Saizo/Sophie PC, Izana/Nina PC
Sibling: Shiro/Soleil Sib, Mitama/Nina Sib, Sophie/Asugi Sib
As per usual the mod can be found at it's gamebanna page here (X), and you can watch all the uploaded supports here on youtube (X)
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For the Top 5 ask game: FE Support conversations (can be from any of the games)
MAN I don’t know if I remember them well enough individually, but I will try my best!
1. Everything Edeleth ever (FE3H)
But especially the S one of course. Of course. They’re my everything can’t you tell? ❤️🦅
2. Ferdinetta (FE3H)
Oh no! Nina has fallen for a rarepair yet again!
I just love their bond, your honour. Ferdinand trying to help Bernie get out of her shell but pushing too far. Bernie still feeling he’s a safe enough person to call him out on his behaviour, which is huge for her! They challenge each other to grow and that’s my jam.
And their A conversation! Ferdinand admitting to the misgivings he had about her and confiding in Bernie about his own fears… Bernie immediately and visibly going heart eyes over it all… They’re so soft, your honour! 🧡💜
3. Silas/Hana (Fates)
My sister had them on their copy of Birthright and they have this cute rivalry that instantly made me melt. Underrated pairing again…
4. Siegbert & Shigure (Fates)
They are siblings in my Conquest savefile and I love them your honour… Siegbert is the best big brother one could possibly dream of and Shigure slowly lets go of his distance and pride for him… 🥺
5. Kaze/Selena (Fates)
Their conversations are so soft and full of vulnerability. I think I teared up a few times reading them. WHAT’S WITH ME AND RAREPAIRS —
Thanks for the ask! ❤️
#fire emblem#fe3h#edeleth#ferdinetta#fe fates#kaze/selena#silas/hana#siegbert fe#shigure fe#ask games
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Celebrating TOA and the people who contribute to make our group what it is.
Repost, don't reblog. Only fill in what you feel comfortable sharing! Happy anniversary, TOA! Here's to many more years spent together.
Name: Sam
Pronouns: she/her
Birthday (no year): 5/28! Cyan and I share a birthday with: Liam O'Brien, Laura Bailey, Ian Fleming, and Siegbert :)
Where are you from? What is your time zone? California, USA! PST (west coast best coast)
How long is your roleplay experience? 10+ years? Is it closer to 15 now? If you listen you can hear my joints creaking
How were you introduced to roleplaying as a whole? None other than Wajas.com. Middle school, what a time you were
How were you introduced to TOA? iirc a FE blog I was following reblogged a ToA post and I thought "hm, that's pretty cool! I'll look into it!" and then I blinked and 5 years passed.
Do you have any pets? No :sob:
What is your favorite time of year and why?(Season, holiday, general period) Winter! The weather is actually livable
What is your IRL occupation? Office Assistant though I ask for good vibes I have some new opportunities coming up to leave my current place
Some interests and things you like/enjoy? Writing, reading, cross stitching, karate, journaling, language learning
What non-Fire Emblem games do you play? Legend of Zelda, Persona, Stardew Valley, occasionally I dip my toes back into Honkai Star Rail
Favorite Pokemon type & Pokemon: Vaporeon and Water Type!
Tell us some funfacts and trivia about yourself! Dunno if I've mentioned this in the past but I have crooked pinkies due to a recessive gene in my family! My dad has crooked pinkies as well :)
How did you get into Fire Emblem? Five/six year old Sam watched my brother play Path of Radiance on the family Gamecube and I never looked back
What Fire Emblem games have you played? Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, Sacred Stones, Awakening, Fates Conquest route, 3 Houses, Engage. I have read the scripts for Genealogy and Thracia. Halfway through Blazing Blade!
First & Favorite Fire Emblem games: First was Path of Radiance! Awakening is still my fave all these years later
List your 5 favorite Fire Emblem characters across the series! Inigo, Ilyana, Dimitri, Xander, Haar
Who was the first character ever to make you go “ooh I like this one in particular” and why? Can be any context and reason! Ilyana! I honestly can't remember why anymore I just thought she was super cool something about the thunder magic spoke to 5 year old me's imagination
Any Fire Emblem crushes? Laslow AND Dimitri that has not changed
If you’ve played (or are familiar with) the following games, who was your first S support? Who would you S support nowadays? - Awakening: Chrom, still Chrom - Fates: Silas, still Silas OR perhaps Laslow if I'm feeling Spicy- Three Houses: Dimitri, still Dimitri - Engage: Diamant, still Diamant
Favorite Fire Emblem class? Assassin or Swordmaster!
If you were a Fire Emblem character, what would be your class and stats? Would you be playable? A very mid Myrmidon who can get some good stats if you have good rng luck
If you were a Three Houses character, what would be your affiliation? Blue Lions pride baby!!
If you were an Officers Academy student, what would be your boons, banes and potential budding talent? -Boon: Sword, Bow -Bane: Heavy Armor, Axe -Budding Talent: Authority
If you were an Engage character, which nation would you originate from? Brodia!
How do you pronounce TOA? Tee-Oh-Ae
Current TOA muses: Laslow, Leo, Nephenee!
Past TOA muses? Ilyana, Vanessa, Azelle!
Who was your first TOA muse? If you no longer have them, can you see yourself picking them up again? Inilow is here to stay I can't make this man leave my head if I tried.
Do you believe you have a type of character you gravitate towards writing? I love my flirts, and I also enjoy more serious characters who have a relaxed side if you know them well enough. Also youngest siblings.
Do you have characters or types of characters you don’t think you can handle writing, but wish you could? Villains! As interesting and multifaceted as they can be, I struggle staying within that mindset for a long period of time.
What kind of scenes, situations etc do you believe you enjoy writing the most? (If you filled this out last year, has this changed in any way?) I do still enjoy combat--nothing like getting your adrenaline pumping!--but recently I've found I enjoy some of the more emotional things, too. Relationships, grief, etc.
Do you have any scenario in mind for your muse(s) that gets you thinking “man I hope I get to write this one day”? Not really; I've been extremely lucky over the years to have written pretty much every scenario I can think of. I would love to continue exploring both Lazzy's and Leo's arcs as fathers.
Favorite TOA-related memories? Oh goodness....way too many to count! Most recently, I still find myself laughing over Leo (muse) dying for Jan 2024's event plot. Iconic
Present or past tense? Present!
Normal size text, small text, no preference? No preference! I try to use small text on Leo solely for that #aesthetic, but that's it
Got any potential muse delusions to share? 😉 Not at the moment! I'm happy with my lineup! (But if you twist my arm.....a certain knight from SacStones still lives in my head. And there's this wyvern rider from Tellius who occasionally whispers.)
#and a one. a two! [ooc]#YEAR FIVE!!! EVERYONE GIVE IT UP FOR YEAR FIVE!!!#not a lot of my answers changed!!#i am a very consistent person in terms of what i like/dislike/etc#happy anniversary toa. here's to many more <3
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Celebrating TOA and the people who contribute to make our group what it is.
Repost, don't reblog. Only fill in what you feel comfortable sharing!
Happy anniversary, TOA! Here's to many more years spent together.
Name: Cyan
Pronouns: she/they/he
Birthday (no year): 28/05 (I share my birth with Siegbert and am between Mercie and chrom!)
Where are you from? What is your time zone? From France, live in England so like 5 hours ahead of the toa clock so I miss a lot
How long is your roleplay experience? Like 15 years now??? What the fuck
How were you introduced to roleplaying as a whole? So I had a friend in school who was a weeb and asked if I RP. And I thought he meant. You know. Nsfw. So I was like Ew no :( I am a teen that is gross. Then he explained he meant like fandom RP and how it works and then I joined him on GaiaOnline YES I'M THAT OLD THANKS AND YES I STILL USE GAIA. I started with hetalia. Yes I'd still like to die
How were you introduced to TOA? Lailah hinted at me for like 2 weeks with lines like "I joined this group and you know Gerome misses Cynthia" and I kept going "sounds fun :)" and did not realise they were hinting until they straight up asked. wow I have been here 6 months
Do you have any pets? No :( I don't have the time for them
What is your favorite time of year and why?(Season, holiday, general period) Summer despite you know. The bugs. But I can actually function in summer
What is your IRL occupation? Data entry; it's why I'm on the discord server most of my day now
Some interests and things you like/enjoy? I like cooking, baking, oh and I'm a cosplayer! I've been at it for 3 years and yes it's mostly fire emblem bar ONE (soon to be two)
What non-Fire Emblem games do you play? Tales of (WHERE ARE MY TALES FRIENDS AT), Persona, critically acclaimed mmorpg FFXIV, octopath, ?? I'm not sure what else? I tried playing dragon age but it crashes constantly even with the fixes
Favorite Pokemon type & Pokemon: I don't think I have a fave type but I really really love Dragonair 🥺
Tell us some funfacts and trivia about yourself! I once wrote about the ships I hate for an English exam. Got an A. But at what cost. One was a hetalia ship (I was a child.) and another was Bart and Milhouse. 😑 Yes that Bart and Milhouse.
How did you get into Fire Emblem? I was told to play Awakening because I'll love it and I'll totally love all these characters. Um. I never finished it. Then Fates came out, twitter didn't shut up about that and I refused to play it. Then 3H came out. I saw Edelgard and it was joever for me. So I bought it and I've been here ever since.
What Fire Emblem games have you played? Engage, 3H, Fates (all three routes baby), Awakening, Echoes, Warriors, Sacred Stones, a little FEH until I was put off cause I summoned Easter Xander, a little FE7 and I WILL. FINISH. PATH OF RADIANCE. I SWEAR TO YOU ALL RIGHT NOW.
First & Favorite Fire Emblem games: first was technically Awakening but I didn't like it so I dropped it until 2022 I wanna say? So really my first FE was 3H. My favourite? Depends on the day.
List your 5 favorite Fire Emblem characters across the series!
Who was the first character ever to make you go “ooh I like this one in particular” and why? Can be any context and reason!
Any Fire Emblem crushes? 😳
If you’ve played (or are familiar with) the following games, who was your first S support? Who would you S support nowadays?- Awakening:- Fates:- Three Houses:- Engage:
Favorite Fire Emblem class?
If you were a Fire Emblem character, what would be your class and stats? Would you be playable?
If you were a Three Houses character, what would be your affiliation? (Black Eagles, Blue Lions, Golden Deer, Church of Seiros, Those Who Slither in the Dark, unaffiliated civilian, other - for example Almyran)
If you were an Officers Academy student, what would be your boons, banes and potential budding talent?
If you were an Engage character, which nation would you originate from? (Firene, the Kingdom of Abundance; Brodia, the Kingdom of Might; Elusia, the Kingdom of Knowledge; Solm, the Queendom of Freedom; Lythos, the holy land of the Divine Dragon; Gradlon, the desolate land of the Fell Dragon)
How do you pronounce TOA? 🤔(separate letters, to-ah, other?)
Current TOA muses: Cynthia and Ryoma!
Past TOA muses? Alas :(
Who was your first TOA muse? If you no longer have them, can you see yourself picking them up again? Cynthia! My beloved. I didn't think she could be such a strong muse I picked her up cause I was bullied into it. Now she bullies me daily
Do you believe you have a type of character you gravitate towards writing? (If you filled this out last year, has this changed in any way?) I don't know actually? I love posh assholes. I love sweet girls. I love chaos characters. I dunno you should see my muse list on my indie it's a wild mix
Do you have characters or types of characters you don’t think you can handle writing, but wish you could? I wanna write unrepentant assholes but I can't :( I struggle with that. I'm trying tho
What kind of scenes, situations etc do you believe you enjoy writing the most? (If you filled this out last year, has this changed in any way?) um. Well. I like intimate stuff if you're picking up what I'm putting down. But then I run away about 2 replies in so I write fanfic usually. I like kissing too. Um. I love high emotional scenes too. If I could describe my writing style, it's "My Dinner With Andre - the novel" (I've never seen the film but I get the gist)
Do you have any scenario in mind for your muse(s) that gets you thinking “man I hope I get to write this one day”? I want Ryoma to be happy. Like genuinely I want him to be in a place where he can forgive himself, maybe even forgive the nohrians. I want him to move on and have a peaceful life as a teacher. But I also want him to fall in love which is. So silly. But. My brain is a shipper lol. As for Cynthia? Hm. I have thoughts for her but that's a whole arc
Favorite TOA-related memories? I dunno! I've had a lotta fun here but I can't think of any specific stuff offhand? Maybe how welcoming everyone was when I joined that was nice 🥺
Present or past tense? Present! I live in the moment! I tend to tense match but present. I like third person and second person POV too but I can't RP in second person BC it feels weird? I mostly write in second person if I'm writing a vent fic. Why? I dunno
Normal size text, small text, no preference? I like tiny text but again I size match. I snoop to see what my partner does and copy them :D
Got any potential muse delusions to share? 😉 I am working towards the worst fucking creature. 0/10. I hate him (Innes. Yes he's my discord icon rn why do you ask). If someone else grabs him, hm. Tana? L'Arachel? I had more but I'm gunning for my moron mullet man ngl I have THOUGHTS
#ooc.#Munday.#Thank u for the sheet Neffi 🥺🥺 this was really fun to do!!#Ilu guys thank u sm for being so kind and inclusive always
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More feh characters ideas but I can't remember what I said in my last post so there might be repeats. (Mainly fe14)
Leif and Líf duo
Dimitri and Xander duo
Líf and Sharena duo
Líf and Elise duo
Sharena and Elise
Xander as a maid for that butler banner or whatever it is. Maybe Xander Azura duo because all Azura does besides sing and kill is shove food in her face in her supports /j
Maybe Xander Azura songstress duo.
Sumeragi with Rajinto
Garon with Brynhildr/Siegfried (I personally want Brynhildr, I think Malig Knight Garon is canon. I don't see him just switching to an axe after losing/passing on Siegfried if he was a paladin unless he was a great knight which I just doubt, maybe Katerina or something had Siegfried🤷♀️.)
Katerina and Ikona. Their names exist in fates so they might as well get faces.
Then obviously a Xander Katerina duo and a Garon Katerina duo and an Ikona Sumeragi duo and a Ryoma Ikona duo since the other Hoshidan siblings don't remember Ikona? (I think that's how it is at least) Like I feel that Hinoka should have a faint memory, even if the siblings were 1 year apart and Ikona died right after Sakura, Hinoka would have been like 3 years old.
I don't know what weapon Ikona would use or if she would be a staff, I'm pretty sure it said Mikoto used Fujin yumi, so maybe Ikona did to?
I think Katerina would be a paladin and that's why Xander chose to be one.
Witch Camilla, Nina, Orochi, Ophelia, or Elise.
Spear fighter Hinoka even though infantry sucks.
Takumi Takumi duo
Azura Camilla duo
Ryoma and Askr because I already have confused them so many times (I don't know how one is a cow and the other is a lobster.)
Ash and Ryoma (Rock lobster.)
Alfonse and Líf
Ike and Hinata
Sylvain, Lorenz, Hinata and Laslow.
A heros day in the life drawing of Xander and Leo chasing Sylvain off for going near Elise like Seteth would for Flayn.
Flayn and Elise duo (they already have the exact same personal skill (Lily's poise) they might as well be paired.)
Lysithia and Camilla.
A NEW LEIF THAT DOESN'T WEILD A BOW
Xander that does wield a bow so there is a Xander for every weapon.
Leo with his ice sword
King Leo with Siegfried and King Leo with Brynhildr, one can be like fallen leo or whatever.
Hinoka with Rajinto
Alt where Sakura became queen so I can forget about Queen Camilla's existence (that unit infuriates me but if there is 2 units who make no canonical sense I'll be okay.)
More Kazes. 8 more to be precise.
Laslow Oliva and Odin Lissa like Selena and Cordelia
Caledori and Severa.
Shiro and Forrest
Oboro and Forrest
XANDER AND SIEGBERT
KANA AND SHIRO
KANA AND SIEGBERT
Fallen Chrom and day of devotion Lucina specifically.
Laslow Odin duo
Any male corrin
Summoner and Alfonse so we can make it official. We already know they are in love 🙄.
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the funniest part of ophelia and siegbert's supports is that ophelia is literally a princess she just can't know that
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how would soleil and seigbert be as siblings??
omg. well first i like to hc siegbert as the older one (usually a year but w/e works), partially bc i like the whole "im the older brother and i MUST act like one" scenario it would inevitably produce. i think he'd end up protective of soleil, but this causes issues bc soleil would also be protective of him, albeit in a slightly different way, but ultimately i think they'd end up clashing in this particular regard lol. i don't think they squabble too often (beyond siegbert chiding soleil and soleil going hehe whoops *continues skirt-chasing*), honestly their biggest hurdle to overcome imo is that dual-attempt at protection which might end up requiring xander or laslow to step in. OTHER than that tho i think they'd get along well as siblings, it's not like they hate each other in-game--they'll just also have the occasional "daaaaaaaaaaaad siegbert is nagging me again make him stooopppp" peppered in there lolol
#as a resident haver of both older and younger siblings that tends to disagree with like 90% of sibling posts on this site. here is my take#some of soleil's being protective certainly comes from her whole 'future-lord siegbert' thing from their support#one of my first xanlow wips (that i still wanna write eventually) goes into the exploration of the fact they have different heritages#and trying to recognize each other's feelings on the matter#(i.e 'why won't siegbert let me protect him?' 'he's your big brother he loves you')#(and 'why won't soleil listen when i say that our bloodlines don't matter?' 'well unfortunately it's because they *do*'#partially reflecting how xander and laslow have had to deal with a very similar thing!#i wanted to write xander and laslow going through their feelings on the matter first. which i have now. so it's just a matter of when--#--for me writing the sibling fic. gjsjgjdfn#oh but also speaking of their support. i do think the 'PLEASE PUT A SHIRT ON' aspect is completely hilarious under a sibling context#'it's my house siegbert :/' 'ITS ALSO MY HOUSE'#ghsjfjsfhshfjsfnsnfb#phew. heh#thanks for the ask this was fun to answer#dots answers asks#anonymous#dots's xnlw tag
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I will never forgive Tree house for the corhajat support. I guarantee you if it was localized properly Rhajat wouldn't be so despised. I doubt she'd be ede//leth popular. Not even close. But I feel she also wouldn't be one of the most hated fe characters.
During Fates' heyday it probably would've been met with flack cuz the big left-y opinion was the very liberal "uhm Rhajat thinking it's gross to marry a woman is PROBLEMATIC, all forms of love should be treated equally, UGH" way of thinking.
But over time, and as progressive decpitions of queer media and thinking have become more commonplace, it would've been looked at much more favorably. Gaygnst like Rhajat's can be weird to write if not handled well, but I'd say many gay, bi and pan people can very much relate and appreciate a character not only being told that their feelings for the same gender aren't gross, but are reciprocated. At least that's how my train of thought going from early 2016 to now was lol.
Plus from a writing standpoint it just really conveys Rhajat's character well. And correct me if I'm wrong, but not only did we lose Rhajat's unique F!Corrin support from localization, but I think they also did the same thing to M!Corrin's support with Siegbert to kind of equal it out? So we ended up losing two supports in the process.
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top 5 fire emblem moments !!
That one convo in FE7 where Hector and Matthew were talking about whether Hector thinks he could replace Uther after his death - all while hiding it from everyone else
Final battle of TMS where Itsuki and friends defeated Medeus with the power of J-pop
Siegbert and Soleil's C support where soleil was changing without closing the door and siegbert's reaction to that is by yelling WE'RE OUT OF DOORS SOLEIL
Whenever Alm or Celica sees a cat
Emmeryn free falling and the subsequent battle that follows
#last two is more like additions but first three will always be a core memory#runner up is Shiro and Selkie debating over chicken wing flavors#fates is actual sitcom#catonatrain
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I'm curious, what would your ideal FE be?
And do you have any particular FE concepts in mind?
So, fun fact: I actually talked about this a while back.
...and by 'a while back,' I mean 'five years ago,' because time is soup.
So because that's a heck of a lot longer than I remember and a lot changes in that amount of time, let's come at this fresh and see what changes and what doesn't.
So I still really want to keep the lead character concept: dual sword/mage older sister and priest younger brother (with natural promotion to dual healer/mage) is a nice shift on the usual Fire Emblem formula, where we rarely see female Lords in the lead who are set to inherit the throne or male healers (and I can't recall the last time one was a prince, barring Brady with Chrom as his father and I guess Forrest though he's not in the immediate line of succession since he's Siegbert's cousin meaning Xander and Siegbert would need to be removed from the equation before he'd be in line for the throne but since Leo's a prince I think that technically akes him one too and now I'm just going down a rabbit hole of technicalities).
Intro/tutorial would be fairly run-of-the-mill, border skirmish type thing against a small incursion from a neighboring nation and going out to take care of it. But something I think would be fascinating is an expansion on the usual mid-battle recruitment and the option to spare foes that we saw at times in Three Houses: I want every main chapter enemy to have a name and unique portrait. I want there to be a frankly ridiculous number of characters who could theoretically be recruited depending on who approaches them, and I want every enemy to have an option to spare them even if they're not recruited.
Think of it: you go into battle and you see that every enemy is an individual. Every enemy is someone you can engage with. And you can approach any one of them with any of your units and talk to them. As you play, you start to get to know the different personalities of your units: someone may have a kind and gentle approach that's more likely to convince someone who's not exactly keen on fighting -- but that same approach might get steamrolled over by another person that's more set in their ways. Conversely, one of your units might be blunt and straightforward, and could butt heads in a constructive way with someone like that, but whose approach would scare off a more timid foe. Maybe approaching another unit with a character just recruited in the same battle can be helpful -- one of them bringing a friend or close ally over, because they don't want to hurt each other -- or maybe it can backfire spectacularly, with the enemy unit accusing your new ally of stabbing his comrades in the back, which shuts down all attempts at conversation.
It could be an interesting risk/reward system that encourages getting familiar with your various units beyond just their mechanical strengths and weaknesses: knowing their personalities and being able to employ them to take enemies off the field and bloodlessly thin the ranks could be a lot of fun -- plus, it's something that's not required. You don't have to try and bring them to your side -- you can breeze past those little dialogue snippets and just take them out if you want. And at the end of combat, if they weren't recruited, you have an option to spare them or kill them. If you spare them, you might see them again in another battle, and maybe they'll remember you: maybe you'll have another chance to recruit them, and more success the second time around because your actions challenged their preconceived notions about you. If you kill them, though, you might run into someone else later on -- a sibling, a relative, a friend -- who can't be reached at all because their quest is one of vengeance against the one that murdered someone they loved.
And then: what if that built into Supports. What if recruiting units off the battlefield had long-running effects based on how that unit was used? If someone was initially hesitant to join you, and then you bench them permanently, maybe they desert your force after a while because they felt isolated and lacked any kind of community since no work had been done building a new support network for them. Maybe someone else was a little too eager to join based on their impression of your army, and if you build out their Supports it becomes clear that their character has goals that are entirely at odds with the main characters' -- but because those Supports also gave them an understanding of the disconnect, they end up betraying you at some point to get what they want. Recruitment becomes a mechanic that needs to be considered, rather than just a 'collect them all' thing, because indiscriminate recruiting can backfire on you down the road.
With that many characters, of course, it would be completely insane to have all of them as combat units -- so what if some recruits unlock camp options. Maybe they're hesitant to fight against their own people directly, but they want to help and learn more about your force, so they offer non-combat skills: cooking, hunting, fishing, foraging, various sorts of combat/weaponry training, medical aid, merchant services. Similar to Three Houses monastery activities, you can pick a couple of combat units and send them to do different tasks that help keep your forces in fighting shape, building support bonds and learning things about the non-combat units in the process.
One thing I definitely want to see though is a reversal on the stereotypical Divine Dragon and Evil Dragon dichotomy. I want the main characters to talk about their Divine with absolute reverence, I want them to refer to their Divine as their protector and guardian, I want them to make their Divine out to be so kind and compassionate -- and then at some point deep in the game, I want it revealed that their Divine is the one that's seen as that world's Ultimate Evil. I want their Divine to look incredibly daunting, too, big and dark and toothy and terrifying -- but the main characters have nothing but respect for it, and it's eventually proven (maybe through calling it for aid against the threat of the neighboring nation's Divine) that their faith is not misplaced nor mistaken, and their Divine is everything they claim it is.
I still really like the split narrative concept, too, with the two siblings having different stories and different objectives: the kidnapped brother would likely have missions emphasizing escape or endurance (which takes advantage of his status as a healer), while the questing sister would have more objectives to rout an enemy or defeat a particular foe. Odds are that the narrative would begin with a single straightforward story, then split at the kidnapping, and only join together again at the very end before the closing chapters (so you could bring your favorites from both sides of the story to the final confrontation, but wouldn't get all the out of battle/camp stuff).
And above all: I wouldn't want it to be a story that ends with unification under a single banner. A lot of Fire Emblem games have this as their 'ideal' final state, and that's just never worked for me. I would want every nation to remain independent -- maybe with more connections, an openness to diplomatic discussion and free trade, possibly some leadership changes -- rather than having one country dissolved into another.
#answered#unsuspecting-person#extra fun fact: this has been in my inbox for weeks#because i was sure i'd talked about something like this before#i just couldn't remember when or where#it took me this long to find it#because again: five years is a really long time#because of the heavy emphasis on support building#the system for building support points would need tweaking#so that it's not a pain to achieve like it is in engage#pair up/adjutants and out of battle activities are a must#also the open recruitment/unique character stuff#would have to be main story only#skirmishes would be way too much to manage#maybe there would be one specific skirmish recruit#a merchant or something#but most skirmishes would be against puppets/constructs#for more incidental things: only one gen and no timeskip#the thing about character diversity and sensible armor stands#and way more support options#romantic platonic all kinds of rivalries from friendly to bitter#i want it all#this is way too complicated for a fire emblem#but it doesn't stop me from thinking about it a lot#i already have part of a character roster#because of course i do
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I think there was a misunderstanding with my point during the "Corrin age" ask; i said that you can only get Corrin to being 6 when Ryoma got jealous of them if you use a EN-only line in Camilla and Hinoka's support, with there being no implication anywhere else in the game or the artbook that they were a young child when that happened. I must have yapped too much during my explanations, so sorry for that.
As for the Deeprealms, there actually are optional maps where Anankos sends Vallite soldiers to try and invade the MyCastle and you need to rout them, so the game's claim that the parents sent their children to the Deeprealms because MyCastle wasn't safe due to invasions is pretty well-supported and set-up by the game itself; still, you make a good point that it's weird how no one questions who or what the Vallite soldiers are and where they're coming from.
No worries lol,
Sometimes I read too fast and miss some stuff!
Bamboozled by the lolcalisation again then, it sucks but damn if Fates has really been warped by the lolcalising team... I guess the negative feedback regarding FE14's lolcalisation was sort of taken to heart, given how FE16's lolcalisation isn't as far off or added as many random details that completely destroy the plot as FE14 did, but it still missed, imo, sort of, the point of that feedback...
And yet, given the sales of FE16, I really wonder if a non-lolcalised version of the game, aka, a localisation à la FE7/8 would have sold as much as Pat's Fire Emblem Treehouse. We will never know!
Anankos'n'pals are trying to invade My Castle... but I thought we also had to fight Faceless in the Deeprealms when we recruit the children characters?
I'd have said even if MyCastle is under attack, at least the parents/the group is here to protect it, but sending baby!Siegbert in another realm where his dad cannot protect him or look after him would have been more risky... Ditto for Corn and the Kanas (we were not attacked by Anankos but by random bandits iirc?).
#anon#replies#FE14#lolcalisation woes#to see FE14's script peppered here and there by lolcalisation exclusive shit is really annoying#but i'm not as annoyed as seeing it in FE16 bcs i'm less attached to FE14#hopefully for FE16 fans all around got to identify quickly what was wrong#i mean being a fully voiced game certainly helped especially since dual audio exist in FE16#and didn't in FE14#and then maybe Fates was the try that made people realise that lolcalisation can shamlessly modify#plot important details and characterisation#I will forever thank the fans who set up the datamine website#seriously#i always rant about fandom woes but that level of fan involvment is fandom boon/superboon#the stuff that makes me enjoy fandom interactions lol
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