#sue me but I think Rashta is a GREAT character
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enobariasteeth · 1 year ago
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love remarried empress but WOW are the fans incapable of nuance
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pruneunfair · 1 month ago
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Hi okay- I’m a huge remarried empress fan, but I enjoy it seperate from tne fandom. That being said- you have so many great points.
1) I do believe the story may have changed, because this is supposed to be based off a web novel. Like an actual novel. Often times they will deviate from the novel to change the story. Take Who Made Me a Princess. The artist at the end of it did say they changed the story ending for it. So it’s very plausible.
2. SOUVESHU (look I’m a fan but I can never remember how to spell) DEFINETLY GROOMED RASHTA!! Though I don’t agree with her actions, I have 100% acknowledged and know she is deeply traumatized. And he most likely took advantage of that. He saw her as young and pure, something Navier was not. And he wanted to preserve that. Rashta is clearly traumatized, and her mental health is not healthy. It is easy to take advantage and manipulate sadly because she does not know the warnings. He groomed her and when she was finally trying to be more like someone she thought he wanted, Navier, he lashed out. No one gets she is constantly comparing herself!! She does not know how to love herself!! And that is the most damage. I wish they would pick up on that. I love Navier but she can be so oblivious to that due to her anger and betrayal at Soveshu. I think if Rashta had proper care and been trained,!- did Soveshu could just fucking communicate and not be a groomer, this could all have been avoided. Navier is also at fault for not see this red flag in him??? But she was so angry and maybe jealous and wanting to back stab I think it clouded her judgement. If she slowed down and actually had a conversation- it would be okay.
3) there is so much wasted potential in all the characters!! Is Navier is getting this magical stuff sorted why can’t she just acknowledge it and work for something with it? Use it to her advantage. I wanted to see her stand up to Heinrey for taking her mages. I wanted to see her stand up to Soveshu. I want to see her just fight for herself. But she doesn’t say much. She’s so strategic with everything and it’s like it wasted her potential. Why can’t she just speak out?? It does feel very much like she turned into a Mary Sue. I want to see more of her flaws. Like one we all think is pretty when is a flaw is that she has no want to speak out and is held back and refined! I think they are trying hard to point onto her upbringing and that she’s “higher” than everyone else. When like- yes she’s an empress. But there is so much more then that we should be able to read about!! We need more scenes of her having friends for peat sakes that isn’t gossiping or talking about men and other things. Where did the potential go??
I really wanna see how it ends and hope it turns into a better direction. I also need to read the book too.
TLDR: you make so many good points and I wanted to expand on it as a fan of the series who does acknowledge all these points.
1: I did read the novel out of curiosity since everyone was saying it was better then the manhwa. The manhwa was pretty loyal to the novel and while it was still really iffy with protagonist centered morality I felt it could get away with it more since it was in first person therfore it's possible Navier could be an unreliable narrator. Another difference I noticed is that while the manhwa felt actively malicious against Rashta and making jokes about her trauma when she cries or looks for attention, the novel is more complex about it and it feels more sympathetic then something to laugh at. The whole slavery being ignored and characters getting away with shitty behavior unfortunately still lasted but given how it was more complex with it's characters I think it was an unfortunate result of the author getting a little too carried away with the readers desires to see more fluff. Gotta say I don't hold as much animosity toward the webnovel but it's still not my favorite.
2: I'm really happy to see that I'm not the only one who thinks Rashta got groomed. Even if she's not a child, she's still mentally stunted and grooming can occur at any age since it is the desire to take someone who is easily influenced and molding them into whatever you desire. Honestly though I think it makes sense that Navier wouldn't immediately see any red flags from Sovieshu given that their childhood together was happy and geninune, it's common for victims in abusive relationships to not see who their abuser really is at first which really made Navier escaping even more satisfying.
3: on one hand Navier not being able to speak up makes sense since what is she really gonna do if the Emperor brings in a concubine without breaking royal protocol, on the other hand it is so OOC of her in later seasons when she is described as someone with witty comebacks and is no damsel in distress yet in season 2 and 3 she does absolutely nothing since Heinrey and her other friends do it all for her. They think this makes her really charismatic but that only ever works for villian characters who are mysterious and too classy to do the dirty work, when the protagonist does this over and over it gets boring and you wonder if she's really supposed to be the protagonist at all.
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isekaithatplease · 3 years ago
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THANK YOU. JUSTICE FOR RASHTA.
Thanks! But I wouldn't exactly say justice for Rashta, as much as I would say 'start handling sensitive topics in stories better pls' because ngl like the story has so many issues- classism, sexism (in the wrong way) and whatnot. The story really could've handled her a lot better by making her less evil or even giving her some sort of sympathy/redemption arc.
The fact that the story willingly paints a formerly traumatized slave (who I will admit did have her SERIOUS faults) as irredeemable at all costs, but goes out of its way to portray Navier/Heinrey as two lil cinnamon rolls who are AMAZING and everyone who's against them SUCKS WITHOUT QUESTION is just laughably cliche and uninspiring. Where's the complexity? Where's the depth?
Also taking a step back for a second-
Historically, at best most decent/good monarchs were morally grey people who made some shady decisions. It's not uncommon to see famous figures who are a hero to one country but are seen as a scoundrel in another for good reasons. Ruling/governing is a very complex matter, and I doubt most people on top/in power are going to be innocent cinnamon rolls with the weight of the world on their shoulders because there will be times when they have to make questionable decisions that are met with valid questions/criticisms, especially in the ethics/moral department. But it never felt like remarried empress ever went this route, it just kinda chickened out and decided to antagonize any/everyone who wasn't in line for the church of Heinrey/Navier, which is another reason why I kinda hate this story. You could probably replace most of the supporting cast with the cardboard boxes/terminators and you'd get the same results because it feels like no one has any depth if they're against these two, which kinda makes both of them feel very Mary sue-ish/Gary sue-ish to me.
A good story wouldn't have to do that. A good story literally would not have to sacrifice its other female characters just to make Navier look good.
There was a ton of wasted potential thereby not having Navier or at least Heinrey as morally grey characters. Because you don't have to be a good person to be a good character. Although once again this does depend on the strength/skill of the story, but I think Remarried Empress just kinda plays it safe in all the worse ways.
At best remarried empress is an ok story, probably not that deserving of all the hype it receives, but I definitely think it missed out on a lot that could've made it a great story.
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