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Beth Is Wildfire

The group arrives at the CDC and we see a Clip of Dr Jenner making video lab notes, he is talking about how it’s been 194 days since wildfire was declared and 63 days since the disease abruptly went global.

What’s 194 – 63 well it just so happens it’s 131.

Does anyone remember Beth’s 30 days without an accident sign? Oh and also the Sanctuary’s 101 days without an accident sign? Well add them together and what do you get? Yep that’s right 131. This is a representation of the pattern.  coda000coda.

 Hi again all,

Sorry for the long wait for part 6 life got very busy for a time, above is a small snippet from part 6. Enjoy...  

We are continuing on from part 5 when Sofia goes missing in S2 and then also going back to talk about the CDC S1 and Beth's cure story line.

We continue.

It’s now that the story switches to Sofia in regards to Beth, they are telling the story again but with different details, it’s now about the start of Sofia’s story but also telling how they will go back for Beth and she won’t be where they left her, Rick tells her to hide in a dark cave so he can draw off the walkers, she does but eventually comes out before Rick gets back.

But Rick did leave her instructions as to how to get back to the HWY to find the group he points in the right direction and tells her to keep the sun on her left shoulder. Daryl later finds her tracks and says “she was doing just fine until she veered off in the wrong direction” and that’s what leads to her Death Coda eventually.  But with Beth we know she asks Daryl to learn how to track and the group will leave her signs (or unintentional instructions) to track and eventually get back to them.

Interesting Carol doesn’t bother going looking for Sofia herself in this first scene; Carol and Maggie are loops of this same story line here, not looking for someone they love that is missing, S4 for Maggie and possibly again when Beth’s “body goes missing and they think she is a walker”, Sasha also has this loop in S4E13 when she didn’t want to go looking for Tyrese.

The next day the group does go looking for Sofia and they find a tent, its yellow and Daryl is the one to look up close everyone else stays back a way at first and he is also the only one to go into the tent.  And guess what’s sitting on a cooler out the front of the tent? It’s a can of dog food! Wow so either Daryl or Dwight or both are going to come across a camp in connection to finding Beth, the pattern keeps pointing to that. In this instance Daryl does go into the tent and there is a skeleton of someone who opted out, this skeleton has in its hand a small hand gun the same as Beth carries in S4 which she gets from the prison. Lori is the one to take this particular gun with her to the prison in S3.

Interesting that Beth once had a desire to opt out but she chose to live, killing that part of her. So it’s very possible that a reinterpretation of this location leads to a clue for Daryl that leads to Beth, it may even be that he finds Heath in a loop of this camp site location with Dwight.

Again Heath and the PPP card found by Tara after Heath disappeared, is just a sign that his story will be a repeat of Beth’s but softer. So while her story leads to her being gone for 3 seasons, Heath’s will be softer version and he will be missing for just one season. (Remember PPP for level 2)

The next scene the church bells start ringing and Daryl says “come on” and starts running towards the sound. They find the church and run to it, the bells have stopped by now but the sign out the front Says Southern Baptist church and a small sign next to that “bikers welcome” (Dwight, Daryl?, Saviors? .It Could point to any or all of these being present when Beth is first found.)

This is where she will be found by Daryl a church loop location and guess what? Well a certain site also posted this picture of a S8 filming site.

    They go into the church and the first thing we see is Jesus on the cross as the doors open, in S2 Shane makes a point of saying to Rick “It’s the wrong church Rick, this one doesn’t have a steeple” The bells had stopped ringing by the time they first see and get to the church so Shane is convinced this is not the church where Sofia will be ringing the bells.  

We then see three walkers sitting in the pews, Rick and Shane kill one each and Daryl goes for the only female blond walker and he even makes a kissing sound to it before killing it. (Pointing to a possible kissing scene for Beth and Daryl at their reunion?) Very possible!

Rick even kills his walker the same way he kills Gareth in Father G’s church S5 yet another loop. It’s going to be at this second location after Daryl has found a clue in a spot prior that he finds Beth (Just like finding Glenn led Rick back to his family, we may well see Heath lead Daryl to Beth)

Daryl asks Jesus on the cross if he’s taking requests. Well actually yes Daryl he is and you will get your little cottontail back! Interesting the bells start ringing again after he says this and so he runs outside and around the side of the church is the speaker with a timer attached to the bells. Daryl says “timer, it’s on a timer” so you might have to wait a bit till the right loop (time) comes around but it will come around.

Interesting the number of times the bells ring in total is 3.

And Season 8 will bring a church with a steeple.

But let’s skip back to Morgan and Rick again as there is a little more I want to cover about them

Morgan says to Rick “the Fever would have killed you by now”

Whatever they were doing to Beth at Grady hospital was not all as it seems they were using people as guineapigs (Which DR Stevens AKA DR Jenner take 2, gave to Beth and she ate it in S5

Many in TD think it’s likely the cast on her arm is covering a bite; Merle and Amy in S1 are representations of this arm injury and getting separated from loved ones.

The clues to Beth getting bit are reinforced by Morgan who is so persistent to Rick, asking him, “did you get bit, chewed, scratched anything?”

When just looking at his wound which Morgan did as he changed the bandage, would make it quite clear it did not look like a bite or scratch so why so insistent? He also knows that the “fever would have killed him by now” so why bother with all this conversation? Well because Beth’s story is going to loop back around and be the equal opposite to this scene and fill in the unseen parts.

The start of sheriff story (Beth’s story) began in S4E13 just like Rick but switched around 134 (the sheriff car numbers) and for Beth S4E13 (Alone) is when she got bit just before the Grady cops took her, if you go back and watch the end of Alone, slab town and even consumed 506 where carol is a representation or ghost even (For level 2 please remember ghost symbolism is related to any character that is missing or thought to be dead) of Beth in many parts of consumed and even gets an arm injury and is then taken by the Grady cops but gets out alive.

In all these episodes you will find many clues pointing to the fact she was bit.

Jim in S1E05 is another clue relating to Beth and Daryl possibly in S9 as he gets bit on the stomach, it’s quite a clean wound compared to most bites we see on this show it’s just like teeth marks not a big chunk missing, the funny thing about Jims story is that no one in the camp knows he got bit until way later, oh and just to add to the crazy he gets bit in the same place where Rick gets shot and when the group try to get him to show them the wound he picks up a shovel to try and get them to back off, here they are linking the 4 different wounds/incidents that Rick and Beth will get! They get him to drop the shovel and he keeps repeating to them “I’m ok, I’m ok” over and over while showing them the bite.

Funny thing next is that Daryl wants to put a pick axe in Jims head (before he is even dead or turned) he says something very interesting “I say we put a pick axe in his head, end the dead girls and be done with it” his referencing Jim, Andrea and Amy here as Amy has just died from her bites but hasn’t turned yet and Andrea won’t leave her side and is in a catatonic state almost, she won’t let anyone else touch Amy’s body, but if you think about it he is also taking about Beth as each one here is telling her story just as she is finishing off theirs.

I have a feeling that once it’s made know that Beth has a bite even though it happened a long time ago, that someone (not Daryl) will want to kill her. Think back to S7E10 when Daryl is defending Carol to Richard it’s going to be like that scene but this time the story will loop to be with Beth. (Daryl even says to Richard “if she gets hurt, dies, catches a fever, gets taken out by a walker, hit by lightning, anything I’ll kill you”

Well even though he is talking about Carol here, all these things can loop back around to Beth but backwards. She literally will be extremely lucky (odds of getting hit by lightning are probably similar better even to surviving a bullet to the head and also a walker bite in the zombie apocalypse) She will be bit by a walker which would normally lead to a fever but won’t die, she “dies” from the bullet to the head but is actually just hurt. 

Back to Rick and Jim,

Rick says “Jim is not a monster or a rabid dog, his sick, if we start down that path where do we draw the line”

Daryl “lines pretty clear no tolerance for walkers or them to be”

Rick “what if we can get him help? I heard the CDC (God/Jesus - level 3 Rabbit hole) was working on a cure”

Shane “I heard that too, heard a lot of things before the world went to hell”

Rick: “what if the CDC’s still up and running?”

Shane “man that is a stretch right there”

Rick “why?, if there’s any government, any structure left at all, they’d protect the CDC at all costs, I think it’s our best shot. Shelter, protection, rescue”

Shane “I want that to, but if those things exist they’d be at the at the amy base in fort Benning”

Lori “that’s 100 miles in the opposite direction” Shane “that is right, but it’s away from the hot zone”

Rick continues on to say the CDC is the groups best chance and Jims, Daryl says “you go looking for aspirin, someone’s got to have some balls and take care of this damn problem” he then gets the pick axe and starts moving towards Jim but Rick and Shane pull guns on him and say “we don’t kill the living”.

So someone is going to come very close to killing Beth because of the bite she has (possibly Dwight), but someone else (most likely Daryl and Rick) will stop them.

After this the group start heading out to the CDC, Jim is still alive but getting worse and is in the RV. Rick comes to see him and he wants to be left by the side of the road as the travelling is horrible for him, they leave him by a tree, the group one at a time comes up to him to say goodbye, Rick offers him the small handgun that Daryl had picked up in the tent (Beth’s gun/cure) but Jim says no you will need it, Daryl is the last one to come and doesn’t say a word to Jim but looks at him for a very long time. Then walks away… We never see what happens to Jim the group drives off and that’s it.

This is Jim’s Story but will also be Daryl’s and Beth’s, As I mentioned in previous parts I believe that Daryl will eventually get the poison arrow story line (possibly in S9) and it will be a loop of Jim from S1

Jim says no to the gun being left with him but I have a feeling that when this loops back around to Daryl’s story it will be Beth’s’ cure that he is offered and he won’t say no. Jim’s bite is also in the same spot that Daryl gets the arrow in S3.

Jim says he wants to be left and to be with his family, they are all dead so he wants to be too, well if they do play this out with Daryl at some point the show for a time may well make it look like Mr Dixon is dead/dying/gone but he won’t be and again this will most likely be late in S9 as the funeral home loop pointed back too but we will have to keep an eye out for more clues relating to this.

After this but before the group arrives at the CDC we see a Clip of Dr Jenner making video lab notes, he is talking about how it’s been 194 days since wildfire was declared and 63 days since the disease abruptly went global. What’s 194 – 63 well it just so happens it’s 131. Does anyone remember Beth’s 30 days without an accident sign? Oh and also the Sanctuary’s 101 days without an accident sign? Well add them together and what do you get? Yep that’s right 131. This is a representation of the pattern.  coda000coda.

Jenner goes on to say he can’t sleep living under ground doesn’t help not knowing if its day or night, a reference back to Shane’s light switch comments, good VS bad.

Then he ends transmission and this little beauty come on the screen.

Wildfire M583417

Translation but backwards because Beth story will be going backwards to this: So it should read Music 714385

Season 7 ends (Coda) which will be the marker for the music to play going backwards again (playing music backwards).

1 is again relating to Ricks reunion and as I said we will then see Beth’s reunion first.

4 is relating to Beth’s Story while she is looking for her family

3 how she survived being shot (the 143 are again also the car numbers and Pi just in a different order)

8 what was really happening at Grady

5 when she first arrived and was bit, what they did to her (8-5 will tell the missing story)

Beth is Wildfire number 2, Rick was number one but number 2 will bring the cure.

We then see Jenner in the lab working on a cure; he has a piece of frozen flesh which is labeled test subject 19.

Knowing that Beth was 18 possibly closer to 19 when her and Daryl left the prison together I’m wondering if this is an indicator of the test subjects age. And also the season the cure will be completed and ready to give to others in S9

Jenner spills some acid on it and has to evacuate the lab, which then is automatically programmed to burn and destroy everything so the test material is gone (Indicating that Beth won’t stay at Grady long and the Dr will not be happy about it)

After the lab burns everything, we then see Jenner doing another video blog, he is drinking and looking upset. He says “the TS 19 test samples are gone; the tragedy of their loss cannot be overstated, they were our freshest samples by far, none of the other samples we got even came close”.

In the corner of the camera B2dAA-Zone5Atl

Zone 5 Atlanta really? I mean come on!!!

S5 Atlanta Beth 2nd Wildfire or test subject (the AA? well you’re going to have to wait till Level 2 to find out about that)

The group finally arrive at the CDC AKA Grady, they get to the doors and its shut up tight (just like the funeral home and Grady) they knock and T-dog says ‘there’s nobody here’ Rick “then why are these shutters down” Daryl yells “walkers” and the ladies start panicking.

Daryl gets really angry here and starts yelling at Rick that he lead them into a graveyard and it was the wrong decision to come. I’m thinking that in future events he will be yelling these things at Tyrese instead as he will think Tyrese’s plan got Beth Killed.

The group starts panicking as its getting dark and they all want to leave but Rick sees a camera move and knows someone is in there. The others don’t believe him and tell him he imagined it. (Someone may well see Beth move but the others won’t believe them and since they think the bullet went through her brain they won’t think she is a walker) Shane says” Rick if it did man, it’s an automated devise, it’s just gears winding down man lets go” (So it’s very possible that someone else will say it’s just Beth’s nervous system twitching) Rick starts yelling at the camera “let us in or you’re killing us” as Shane tries to drag him away. Its then that the doors suddenly open and the most blinding light we have ever seen on this show shines on all of them, they all squint their eyes and we see the group from behind they are facing the light and so is the camera, Rick is front and centre in the middle of the door the light shining all around, the light keeps getting brighter and brighter until the screen is just bright white light, nothing else can be seen its so bright. End of episode.

The light absolutely reminds me of the S7 poster and the light Rick is holding which also happens to be in the shape of a cross. And what’s around the cross made of light? Circles.

    Added extra here: We find out that Dr Jenner in S1E06 shot his test subject 19 in the head after they turned. Here Jenner shoots the test subject because they turned but I have a feeling that Dr Edwards was the one to shoot Beth and he did it to stop Beth from leaving so he could still use her blood and body as a test subject to stop others from turning. 

The loops continue on so much so that I could write about this for years, but I think you get the idea in regards to this show now and so with all this in mind I want to move on to the next stage.

Congratulation you made it to the End of Rabbit hole Level one.

I hope your brain is still partly un-melted, because I need some of it intact so I can continue melting it in Level 2 and 3 stay tuned.

Thank for taking the time to read team defiance I hope you enjoyed part 1.

 Angel