#still not set on the placement of form rn but idk where else to place it

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Ok ok ok I'mma just infodump some ninjago element headcanons because I can't stop thinking about it and my mind decided to run with figuring out how all the elements work. All of this is just me taking plot points, running away with them, and shoving 50 different headcanons in there lol. Pretty long post warning, rambles below the cut

So -- We start of with the 'Origin Elements' also kinda known as 'Elemental Essenses' because they're the elements that make up all of the rest of the elements: Creation (Dragon-shifted), Destruction (Oni-shifted) and Balance/Green/Energy/whatever tf you call Lloyd's element. Now these 3 are the basis of all of the rest of the elements in the show, and it all started w/ the source dragons and the sorce oni or whatever the oni equivalent are. So there are 7 source dragon, and 5 of them were like hey, I don't wanna be like other girls imma make my own element and made the first 5 primary elements: Fire, Ice, Earth, Water, and Storm. One of the source dragons was fine with being like the other girls and stuck w/ creation n one was like yo... oni are kinda hot n made the element of balance and the FSM w one of the source oni. So that's how the FSM got balance, and then there is Firstborne who got the elements of Ice, Fire, and Earth, and Firstborne's younger sister, Wojira, who got the elements of Storm and Water.

Now during the war btw Oni and Dragons Firstborne was all in on it, FSM was like why am i so special just leave me alone and Wojira was like fuck this im out and Wojira runs off to ninjago. While in ninjago, Wojira gets corrupted somehow and turns evil? idk how tho maybe some oni maybe bc i said so. So that's how the FSM finds Wojira when they end up running off to Ninjago too. Then FSM n Nyad beat Wojira up n FSM sees the corruption that's been put on the elements of Water n Storm and is like woah that's not good n immediately tells the source dragons what happened. The water source dragon looks at the element of water n goes well, it found a master so ig it's not that corrupted we good. On the other hand, the storm source dragon takes one look at the element of storm n is like WOAHHH NOT GOOD n decided, hey, I could maybe split this element into two elements n then insead of one element with 98% corruption it'll be two elements with 49% each n i can handle that so that's what they did. Then the FSM is like hey, ik im already taking Ice, Earth, n Fire to make a landmass here but can I take lightning too? Pretty please? Then the source dragons give the lightning to the FSM and also give lightning, wind, and water Firstborne.

So that gives us the first 6 primary elements, Ice, Fire, Earth, Lightning, Water, and Wind; with Ice, Fire, and Earth being elements of creation/FSM, Water and Wind being elements of Wojira, and Lightning being an element of both. There are also 2 'outlier' elements, Time and Amber, that kinda just showed up one day n no-one could trace them back as secondary elements to any of the other primaries so they are just primaries as well.

That then leads us to the Secondary elements, aka any other element that ever appeared on the show. These elements came to be as the primaries have a habit of breaking off during transfer between masters. This usually happens when either an elemental master dies n the element has to find a completely new host or when a parent has multiple children, hasn't specified which one inherits the element, and the element is trying to move on. For example, sometime during the succession of the water element, the elemental master died and the majority of the water element was like hey person A is the perfect canidate let's go for them, while a small portion of the water element was like no person A is horrible imma go for person B n then made the element of Poison. Or, in an alternate universe where Kai and Nya had a 3rd sibling, part of the element of fire could think that the 3rd sibling is a more suitible canidate and go for them, same for the element of water, combining to give the 3rd sibling the element of steam.

This also means that because all of the secondary elements are based off of the primary elements, with enough training a primary elemental master could tap into and control a secondary element, granted not to the extent a secondary elemental master could. Like, if Cole tried hard enough, he could use the element of metal like Karlof, or if Kai tried hard enough, he could use the element of light. Now this is also where the Storm split into Lightning+Wind gets a little tricky. Because Lighting and Wind split form the same element, they have a natural affinity for each other. And I know that the Jay using wind s1 was an error n Morro using lighting was probably just because he was in lloyd's body, but i'd be rlly cool if Jay and Morro/Euphrasia could tap into the others elements if they tried hard enough. That also means that they'd be able to tap into each other's secondary elements. The combination of Earth+Storm results in both Technology and Dust, but Tech is lightning-shifted while Dust is wind-shifted. That means theoretically Jay could use Dust and Euphrasia could use Tech, but it'd be a lot harder than Jay using Tech n Euphrasia using Dust.

The secondary element combos I have so far are:

Pure Earth: Metal, Sand

Pure Fire: Heat, Light, Shadow, Color

Pure Storm: Teleportation, Gravity, Sound, Speed

Pure Ice: Mind, Snow

Pure Water: Poison

Water+Storm(Wind-Shifted): Ink

Water+Ice+Storm: Weather

Earth+Ice: Crystal

Earth+Fire: Fusion, Lava

Fire+Storm(Lightning-Shifted): Smoke

Water+Earth: Form, Nature/Flora, Fauna

Ice+Storm: Imagination

Earth+Storm(Lightning-Shifted): Technology

Earth+Storm(Wind+Shifted): Dust

Fire+Ice: Temperature

Fire+Water: Steam

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okay readmore time

feel free to contact me to discuss theories or general plot

so this is gonna be hella segmented but just deal okay

my thoughts are never very organized so im just gonna talk about some disappointments and other stuff

why does homeworld have a court session for rose quartz i mean i get theyre bureaucrats suddenly but like. um? kinda feels silly. why would they give her a chance to defend herself? also have they advanced like humans? bc blue diamond sure af didnt give garnet a chance to plead a case when she fused ON ACCIDENT

that being said what happened to all the stuff about like moon goddesses and stuff. i wasnt really counting on the diamonds being like. actual goddess figures but i was kinda hoping for more than ceo bosses in pantsuits

where he hell is white diamond and why wasnt she present. was she out conquering new planets? the symbol represents her so she appears to still be around. so where is she? i honestly think its suspicious that shes not present. i figure given her color and gem placement she is a cold calculating unfeeling machine who is only concerned with purity, structure and justice. so like the anithesis of what steven fights for: feeling for each other, empathizing etc

kinda disappointed there were so few off-colors but maybe well find some more later

also kinda disappointed steven and lars didnt fuse but i mean maybe later. also there wasnt really a need to so far nor was it implied they would

why did everyone run away from rutile when they emerged? the fact they were not INSTANTLY captured and shattered for breaking the mold suggests that all the kindergartners ran too. now they might have been around MUCH LONGER AGO but to me that would mean imperfect gems were MORE COMMON to find. the gems dont seem to be too put off by strange appearances. im just saying its weird that they would all run from a defect gem. im not crying plot hole, im actually saying i think something ELSE happened to make them run away. not a mutated rutile.

i was kind of hoping to find a secret society of garnets of other rubies and sapphires who followed our garnets example lol. they couldve helped steven feel more at home or something

im kind of sad it wasnt set up more like a movie, but again it wasnt SUPPOSED to be. understand i can identify things i was expecting incorrectly and things im genuinely upset by. this was just my expectations being in the wrong place.

im also sad there isnt more of a prospect of there being like. a season of being stranded on homeworld. but now it feels like in the two years itll take for season 6 to show up till just be a bunch of “””filler””” where lars is just stranded on homeworld and not spoken about until a stevenbomb halfway through. id much rather learn about homeworld!!

we also got no new information about the war or homeworld, really!!!! :( not even a flashback

yellow diamond is guilty af. she didnt want to hold the trial and she was ESPECIALLY outraged by the “crazy theory” that she did it. also, im just sayin, eyeball ruby (the only known witness we know of atm) also couldnt tell that the jasper she had ALSO SEEN WITH HER ONE EYE AND LVOED SO MUCH was really amethyst. like she didnt even notice her chest gem OR her coloration. so i mean. the rose quartz that shattered pink COULD HAVE BEEN yellow or COULD HAVE BEEN a shapeshifted gem. esp since her sword isnt supposed to shatter. so someones murder mystery unravels by getting a core detail wrong. i still kind of like the theory of like. pink transferring her consciousness a la lars and steven to a rose and shattering herself so she wouldnt have to conquer and destroy. so our rose is actually pink diamond but in the body of a rose quartz (making steven still a rose quartz but not a pink diamond like his mom... ‘s personality. which is what matters over physical form. esp with gems. itd also make the rose is pink diamond theories hilarious true but also false lmao)

kind of disappointed in lions new origin story too! i think the pink pearl theories were interesting if not always positively RIDDLED with holes. (some people thought he was a gem monster but um we would have seen pearls gem on his tummy. and steven has pet his tummy MANY A TIME)

I KIND OF DONT LIKE THAT THE HAPPY ENDING WAS JUST STEVEN REUNITING WITH HIS FAMILY BUT LARS GETTIN FUCKED OFF LEFT ON HOMEWORLD LOL. i mean i know he told him to go and tell everone and stuff but its like. look everythings back to normal and theyre back together!! oh except lars who isnt alive and will live forever as an organic lich servant to steven but dont worry l m a o o o. i jsut didnt like that whole lars thing a lot in general... nor do i feel like turning pink instantly redeems him. not that i hated him. but i dont think turnign pink was the character development we needed.

WHERES TOPAZ IS SHE OKAY DID AQUAMARINE RAT HER OUT

DO ZIRCONS GET SHATTERED IF THEY LOSE A CASE

WOULD BLUE ZIRCON HAVE BEEN A PARIAH FOR DEFENDING ROSE QUARTZ DESPITE *HAVING TO*

YO BLUE DIAMOND EY WHAT UP LIKE LITERALLY WHATS GOING ON BLUE PLZ TELL ME IN THE DARK A LIL

plz tell me well get more homeworld adventures and lars will smuggle gems in his hair

are they going to send pumpkin to homeworld as rose or something and sacriice him lol (i actually just wanted to ask why he was relevant at all but then i imagined just like. replacing him with lars)

are the crystal gems gonna go to homeworld and start shit princess marco style teach those gems about rock and roll pearl!! liberate them form the oppressive THE MAN, AMETHYST

can i mention that while it was funny but also irrelevant to this special, i kinda didnt like the like. garnet just drawing herself “i like me” bit. like it was funny but also like. almost too off-focus and too self-absorbed for her character. i could imagine sardonyx doing that but not garnet. idk it was just a single silly gag but i didnt like it

are the zircons okay tho

but like seriously whats homeworld even like like whats going on. especially since they dont seem to have an actual culture (if gems dont know what jokes are i really cant imagine them having a purpsoe outside of militial. how does a civilization survive on being NOTHING but war machines?)

i kinda feel like were coming to the tip of excitement here i feel like theres very little more that can be done in the show. idk. like what happens next anyways

do i have any MORE questions or musings to ask/muse????? yes. but i cant think of any rn. so later. 

EDIT: so i was thinking and i wanted to ammend the lars things. he DEF had character development and it was DEF even before he turned pink. i think i felt that the only thing being addressed or taken away was that he was pink now? and i kinda dont like character development thats done like completely suddenly as a heelturn and is heretofore ooc. lars however was written WELL. he developed REALLY WELL AND I LOVE IT. there was just something at the time that made it seem like it was all about him turning pink that almost made me forget he literally saved everyone? and i realize him being left out of the happy ending was of his own accord and sacrifice it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way. just a personal thing i guess.