#st olga of kiev should be thr patron saint of revenge
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spacedace ยท 8 months ago
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Honestly feel like Jason would go for St. Olga for a confirmation name, not because of what she's the Saint of officially (officially I don't think she has an official Thing she's a Patron St. Of) but because of just her general vibe.
I highly recommend looking her up (History Puppet Time has a great vid on her) but for a quick and dirty overview:
Olga was a Norse queen of Kiev in the 900s CE who took bloody, bloody revenge upon a group called the Drevlians after they very gruesomly murdered her husband.l and then had the gaul to try and get her to marry their prince (who ordered the husband murder).
Olga's revenge highlights include:
- burying alive the matchmakers sent to try & convince her to marry the guy who killed her husband
- sending a message saying "totally on board, just need to see your best men, send em over" theb barricade said best men in the bath house and burning them alive
- sending another message saying "wedding totally on, but we gotta have a funeral feast for my dead husband first, can we have it at your place?" & when the poor fools sakd yes, brought her whole crew (vast army) with her where they all sat & watched everyone get smashed & then went ahead and started a teeny tiny lil murder frenzy that turned into a year long beige war
- offered them the chance to just give her tribute and they could call it even after a year, which the Drevlians (rightly) were wary that she would do another brutal murder on em, she convinced them they were square & sweetened the pot by saying she'd be cool with a tribute as small as a sparrow and piece of sulfer from every house as the seige had to be rough on them
-upon receiving the Birds and suffering she had her army tie the sulfur to the birds and the light it on fire so that all the panicked birds would fly back to their roosts...which was in the city.
Anyway feel like fresh from the pit and ready for revenge Jadon Todd would absolutely get a confirmation name in honor of the clear (unofficial as she may be) Patron Saint of Revenge
(Also sadly don't think he could be an official Saint himself. No one can be put forward for consideration until at least 5 years after their death and even then there are specific requirements that someone has to meet to be considered. That being said though, thr Catholic church would have to have some kind of feelings about Red Hood apparently being brought back from the dead seemingly by godly miracle and depending on things the Pope could feasibly pull a "earthly voice of god" and say that Jason is a Saint now which I feel like would only fuck our boy up even more with the Catholic guilt)
Unofficial St. Robin of the Alley though ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€
Like, Robin II with his Crime Alley accent and his Good Catholic Boy (TM) vibes, showing up for midnight mass in his Robin uniform and confessing the wildest sins the father has ever heard and always lits a votive every night at the end of his patrol?
The one they know is gone because Batman starts being seen instead, lighting two candles - one for whoever Robin always lit one for, another for the boy himself- and looking so broken despite the face hiding cowl he wears?
The Vatican might not canonize that boy as a Saint, but Gotham's never bothered playing by anyone else's rules and Crime Alley even less so. They have no qualms at all adding a statue of their lost Robin to the Votive altar, of invoking the name of their martyred Saint for strength or guidance, no one tells the kids getting their confirmation that Robin can't be their confirmed name. That's Crime Alley's Patron Saint right there, and no one is going to say shit about it if they wanna keep their knees - and that includes the Pope and God himself.
Maybe I've just missed it, but I feel like there's not enough discussion on Catholic Jason Todd and his feelings on being seemingly resurrected by God Jeesie-Chreesie style.
Like, we as the readers know that it was a reality bending punch from Superboy Prime that brought Jason back, but in canon no one has any explanation at all for how that happened.
The Lazarus Pit fixed him, but he was already alive (just in super bad shape) to be fixed. He woke up in his own coffin and had to claw out of his own grave and no one in-universe can explain how or why it happened.
And that alone would fuck someone up, but add in Catholic Guilt (TM) and references to the resurrection floating around every Easter and Jason's gotta wonder at least a little bit if the Big G brought him back and if so has to absolutely agonize over what he's done with his big second chance.
I just wanna read 100k words of Jason's complicated feelings on his death, rebirth (resurrection?), Red Hood, God, Bruce and what it all means, if anyone's got any recs please share them I'm begging ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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