COULD LIFE EXIST ON TITAN??
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Saturday, July 6th, 2024.
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Titan's ocean has a volume 12 times that of all Earth's oceans, but it may be barren of life as we know it.
Titan's underground ocean, and similar oceans inside other icy moons in the outer solar system, may lack the organic chemistry necessary for life, according to new astrobiological research.
Titan is Saturn's largest moon, and the second largest moon in the entire solar system. It's famous for being shrouded in a smog of petrochemicals and for possessing a veritable soup of organic molecules — molecules that contain carbon — on its surface. Yet, despite all this fascinating chemistry, Titan is cold. Very cold. It has surface temperatures no warmer than –179 degrees Celsius (–290 degrees Fahrenheit). And in these frigid conditions, chemical reactions for life progress very slowly.
However, deep underground where it's warmer — the exact depth is not certain, but estimates suggest it's on the order of 100 kilometers (62 miles) — a liquid ocean with a volume 12 times that of Earth's oceans combined is thought to exist. Similar oceans inhabit the interiors of Titan's fellow Saturnian moon Enceladus, and Jupiter's moons Europa and Ganymede.
And where there is liquid water, there could be life. Right? Not so fast, says Catherine Neish of Western University in Ontario, Canada.
A planetary scientist, Neish led an international team that challenged the assumption Titan's ocean, and indeed the oceans of other icy moons, could be habitable.
The researchers worked on the basis that, for Titan's ocean to be habitable, a large supply of organic molecules from the surface must be able to physically reach the ocean in order to facilitate prebiotic chemistry that can produce and feed life.
The route for this organic material to reach the ocean is via comet impacts. Such impacts can melt surface ice, creating a pool of liquid water filled with organic molecules. Because liquid water is denser than ice, it sinks. But, Neish's modeling found that the rate of impacts is not high enough for sufficient organic material to reach Titan's ocean.
For example, Neish's team estimates only about 7,500 kilograms (16,534 pounds) of the simplest amino acid, glycine, reaches Titan's ocean every year. It may sound like a lot, but that's equivalent to the mass of one male African elephant spread across an ocean with a dozen times the volume of Earth's oceans. If you’ll excuse the pun, it's barely a drop in the ocean.
"We assumed that the majority of melt deposits — 65% — would sink all the way to the ocean," Neish told Space.com. "Recent modeling work suggests that this is very likely an overestimate, but even in this most optimistic scenario, there is not enough organics moving into Titan's ocean to support life there."
There may be other possibilities. On Europa, where there are very few organic molecules on the surface, it is postulated that hydrothermal vents may exist on the seafloor where the ocean comes into contact with the moon's rocky core. These vents would spew all kinds of molecules and trigger complex chemical reactions that could support life.
Further evidence for carbon in Europa's ocean has been discovered by the James Webb Space Telescope. The JWST identified carbon dioxide that has welled up from the ocean onto Europa's surface.
So, could the same happen on Titan, with organic material coming from the moon's interior, rather than its surface?
Neish doesn't rule it out, saying that colleagues such as Kelly Miller at the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas, are investigating the possibility — but Neish does highlight one particular caveat.
"One concern that has come up is whether the organics sourced from the interior would be useful for life," she said. "We think they may be primarily aromatic compounds, and it is difficult to form biomolecules — such as amino acids — from such compounds."
While we are still some ways away from being able to probe the oceans of these icy moons directly to say for certain whether they contain life or not, Neish's research does raise some promising opportunities for NASA's Dragonfly mission to Titan, on which Neish is a co-investigator.
Originally published on https://www.space.com
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Tribes covered in the books
Tribes covered in the books
People of the Wolf - Alaska and Canadian northwest
People of the Fire- Central Rockies & Great Plains
People of the Earth- Northern Plains & Basins
People of the River- (Mississippi Valley) Cahokia
People of the Sea- Pacific Coast & Great Basin
People of the Lakes- East-Central Woodlands & Great Lakes
People of the Lightning- Florida
People of the Silence- Southwest Anasazi
People of the Mist- Chesapeake Bay
People of the Masks- Ontario & Upstate New York
People of the Owl- Middle Archaic
People of the Raven- Pacific Northwest & British Columbia
People of the Moon- Northwest New Mexico & Southwest Colorado
People of the Nightland- Ontario, New York, & Pennsylvania
Children of the Dawnland - Northern US and Ontario (thanks Duane)
People of the Weeping Eye- Mississippi Valley & Tennessee, Moundville Mississippian
People of the Thunder- Moundville, Chicaza, Choctaw, Yuchi.
Long house series
People of the Longhouse- Iroquois (Haudenosaunee) Oneida, (New York state and Canada)
The Dawn Country- Iroquois (Haudenosaunee) Onondaga,
The BrokenLand- Iroquois (Haudenosaunee) Cayuga and Seneca nations.
People of the Black Sun- Iroquois (Haudenosaunee) Mohawk
De Soto series (there are a lot of tribes not all featured in the books, i tried to limit to those i remember in the books)
Coming of the Storm- including : the Ocale, Northern Utina, Uzita, Mocoso, Uzachile, Yustaga, Alachua culture, Apalachee Nation (florida)
Fire The Sky- Including but not limited to the Capachequi, Ichisi, Ocute, Coosa, Cofitachequi, Mobilian (Georgia,South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, alabama)
A Searing Wind- Mississippian culture including not limited to Chicaza, Quizquiz, Quigate (tribe), (alabama, Mississippi)
People of the SongTrail (Northeastern coast, Vikings)
People of the Morning star Series (Cahokia) Central Mississippi valley
People of the Morning Star- Cahokia
People of the Morning Star: Sun born -Cahokia, Chichen Itza
People of the Morning Star: Moon Hunt- Cahokia, Quiz Quiz,Chikosi,Albaamaha,Moskogee
People of the Morning Star: Star Path- Cahokia, Quiz Quiz, Albaamaha, Haudensaunee,
People of the Morning Star: Lightning Shell - Cahokia
People of the Canyons- Fremont
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