#sorry to add this entire essay onto your post btw

[yandere-daze]

Thank you for the translation Korka!!! Also yes, a zombie outbreak would be so interesting but my brain is wired differently so I immediately went "okay but how can I turn this into a yandere concept?" shdhdjd

Pretty much all of the "surviving" idols have lines about how they want you to stay close to them, how they're scared, how they're going to protect you or how they're going to run away with you. And now I can't help but think what if they were yanderes and instead took this as an opportunity to finally get close to you and have you for themselves?

I mean it's just all so dangerous around here, surely you wouldn't want to go out there on your own, right? It's way easier to survive if you're together! But ahhh don't try to include other survivors in your group, just the two of you is enough! It's not safe to approach other people, who knows, they could have already turned into zombies and they might be out to get you! So just stay with only them and turn a blind eye when you see one of your former friends walking the halls alone. It's better this way

Some of the more violent yanderes might also take this zombie apocalypse situation as an excuse to finally remove all the rivals for your love. They've been itching to get rid of the competition for so long now but always hesitated because you would probably hate them if you ever found out. But now?

Oh it truly does hurt them to have to kill someone that was a dear friend to you but they were a zombie out to get you! They saw how they were looking at you and simply had no choice but to slay them then are there. They did it all for your safety because they care about you so much <3

Nevermind the fact that they clearly heard that "zombie" ask for help earlier, you don't need to know about that

I imagine as soon as news of the outbreak get out, everyone is out there trying to find you, both out of concern for you and because they want to get as close to you as possible. But also, wouldn't it just be so tragic if you two were the only ones to get out of this alive? They'll be sure to cheer you up if that were to happen, don't worry!

But also looking on the zombies side. I imagine as soon as they turn into a zombie, they're also searching for you admist the chaos. They're no longer human, they can't ever be with you normally again so what choice do they have other than turning you as well? We actually kind of see this happen in Natsume's line but I think it really does work well for a yandere concept like that. They want to be with you for all eternity so why don't you come out and let them bite you already? They promise it won't hurt <3

So yes, good luck surviving a zombie apocalypse with a bunch of yanderes trying to take advantage of this situation. You're going to need it

@mishkakagehishka I don't know if you've seen it already but I found the Halloween zombie quotes for Shu and Mika!

[ruby-whistler]

Srry but i noticed in one of ur dream posts u Referred to tommy's cat as hope. I must correct u, that cat was born pussbou and died pussboi. /lh Also tommy killing that cat was nothing compared to dream killing mushroom henry in exile btw just wanna say Also for ur posts about dreams trauma or wilbur manipulating him can u provide links to vods or other proof? Srry if i seem rude i mean that in a "genuinely curious way"

Aaa sorry if my ask came off as rude im just genuinely curious :(((

hi! dw, you don't seem rude at all, and i'm extremely happy someone with a different perspective has found my blog! i really appreciate that sort of attitude and am happy to answer :]

/dsmp /rp

the cat was called pussboy by tommy, but dream only called it "the cat" and then said that "it was hope", which is why it sort of became a symbol (his hope is dead, basically) - that's why i kind of made its name capitalized, because it was more of a metaphor than anything.

most c!dream fans call the cat hope because it's just really nice and really symbolic, and also really sad when you think about it. that's why the name was used in the essay, just to clear up the confusion!

tommy killing that cat was nothing compared to dream killing mushroom henry in exile

i don't really think so? mooshroom henry was entertainment more than anything, and even if it was bad, when watching the stream i don't remember seeing him mourn that much - on the other hand, dream was very quickly and very obviously attached to the cat, with it being his only companion in months of isolation, along with the hope that even when tommy left it would keep him company.

keep in mind c!dream has been deprived of stimuli and human contact for so long it's officially classified as psychological torture at that point.

i don't mean to compare trauma or even compare deaths - because honestly, what c!dream and c!tommy have gone through individually is incomparable and i think neither should be diminished in favor of the other since they're both terrible situations.

that's why i disagree that it "was nothing compared to" - it had an obvious effect on c!dream, and was still c!tommy killing an animal specifically to hurt him, no matter what reasons he had.

when i'm talking about effects people's actions have had on c!dream, i'm not talking about those people. i'm talking about him. :) /lh

as for the trauma, a lot of people agree that a lot of the things he says or does are trauma responses, and hence it's very possible that he's had trauma before he went into prison!

this includes being repeatedly called a tyrant via propaganda by about half of your friends who decided to betray you, trying to keep peace and being pushed deeper into villainy instead, repeatedly being put in between a rock and a hard place in order to make sure the people you care about don't start killing each other, then being betrayed by your closest friends after merely trying to keep peace (sapnap & george) and just in general having no control over your life or image and grasping at straws to gain it back.

i know a lot of people with trauma who heavily relate to certain trauma responses, which aren't always just shaky breaths and flashbacks, but trauma often also manifests itself in extremely ugly and destructive ways, both inwardly and outwardly.

trying to control the people around you is also very often a response to going through trauma, as well as emotional repression which is... rather evident on c!dream during season two. it only seems to get worse with repeated abandonment.

in the end, during the vault scene, the way he acts really just isn't at all the way a healthy person would act, and a lot of his really bad mindsets come from the way he was taught by the world around him.

the character is very reserved however, and since we don't have his pov we can't really say for certain - a lot of people claim it in good faith because they have a lot of evidence for it, and i think they're certainly valid in that.

that is just before the prison, however. from what happened during the prison arc? there is no denying he's traumatized at this point.

he's been emotionally and physically abused by c!sam since the very beginning of being imprisoned, and being in solitary confinement for over two weeks is generally considered psychological (and maybe also physical?) torture. that alone shows up in a lot of symptoms of his mental deterioration while in pandora's during people's visits, and quackity's "sessions" just absolutely drove the point home.

what he's gone through during this arc is absolutely incomparable to anything others charactes have faced before, and it's just plain suffering being endured by someone who is, despite everything, still a human being.

as for the wilbur manipulation thing!! it's talking about the whole vassal scene (though even beforehand a lot of their interactions are pretty iffy), and here's a post about that :]

I also have a small question about the analysis u last reblogged cus it says "why dream needed lmanburg gone rightfully" and like. The house analogy is poor because for one cus the land is infinite. And 2 cus punz's yard was literally larger then lmanburg. And also stuff about dream being a mediator? Can u provide examples?

i wouldn't say it was poor. dream's said a lot of times that he didn't care in the slightest about the land - a lot of his problems with l'manberg arose with the fact that wilbur basically built it on lies and tried to disallow half of the server to come there. c!dream was mad about the division and the fact that wilbur wanted "freedom" to have authority in his lands - over others, as can be seen in this post also.

the table analogy was fitting not because dream was some overlord, but because these were literally friends he invited to hang out and live in a place he wanted to call home. claiming a part of it for yourself and saying people of a certain nationality can't come in is directly opposing those goals.

in the early days of the smp, dream's always been a mediator between his friends - sapnap and george, who would often get into fights and go around killing each other! he would always do his best to stop the conflict, which continued after tommy joined when he took him to court and then later tried to mediate conflicts he was a part of, which resulted in tommy killing him unprovoked, stealing his gear, and starting the disc wars when dream was trying to get his stuff back. later, during pogtopia, he is also most concerned with peace over everything, and this seems to continue indefinitely after.

Today i was thinking about how messed up the final control room was. Like. Dream arranged the betrayal and punz and sapnap killed tommy and tubbo who like. Were literal children and their pals (because the author, wilbur soot, is dead/j but srsly if u take the streamers words tommy said he was 9 during the revolution sooo)

Sorry im gonna ramble about how dumb canon ages are for a second cus like. Streamers can say the characters are one way or another (wilbur saying he is mentally 30-something, etc.) But in the end the characters act like they(or at least their streaming personas) do.

i... honestly don't find it that bad? they were in a war, and the final control room was basically just supposed to end it quicker. the l'manbergians made it clear they were going to fight to the death, so they really left c!dream no other choice. and it's not like he didn't give them chances to give up.

also yeah the 9 year old thing was retconned, because in that case c!dream would've been 14 and i don't think that's true.

c!tommy and c!dream were both young and once again, in a war. the final control room was an attempt to assure victory, which both sides would've taken if possible, but only c!dream saw he had the option.

i do agree the whole child soldier thing was bad but... complain about that to c!wilbur, methinks. he talked naive kids into fighting for his personal power. however, the age argument isn't really valid either way. they had enough agency to sign up for it, and whether or not c!wilbur pushing the intense nationalism onto them had something to do with that is another debate entirely.

Bacl to final control room cus like??? Also fun fact punz took 2 of wilbur's canon lives. And like that probably is what started wilbur's paranoia which later lead to his spiral and i. Many thoughts full of lmanburg today.

i'm pretty sure cc!wilbur said what lead to c!wilbur's spiral was a "dark, twister view of possessions" and "disregard for his fellow citizen whom he claimed to love so much", but i really wouldn't say it was the control room; if anything the sudden loss of power after the elections seems to me like the trigger for his spiral.

I watched the exile arc live and. I feel dirty almost for feeling little to no sympathy for c!dream (srry ive been forgetting to add that aa) because of his actions toward c!tommy and like. The whole probation was so humiliating and unfair and c!dream was planning to frame him for the crimes he and puffy did under the the guise of "pranks" and c!quackity was planning to seize the vice president role.

i mean... to be fair, if you didn't watch the prison arc much yet or only watch tommy's perspective i understand not feeling that sympathetic - however, i encourage you to maybe watch a few prison visits, since they could help you see the whole picture better!

i also watched it live, and i also thought it was terrible, but i share very much the same sentiment for the prison arc because. absolutely no one should have to go through either of those things, you know?

i don't think probation was that humiliating? he was just. being asked to not start conflict with the other factions for two weeks. of course, what happened as a result is in no way justified, but i don't think probation itself would've been bad at all. either way yeah the framing and c!quackity's behaviour was. very yikes, i agree.

Also c!tommy antis are dumb because they say "he deserved exile angry emoji" i dont see u saying that about ranboo. Just say you hate cc!tommy and go. Also people say c!tommy was just as toxic to c!dream and i??? No. One is the victim and one is the abuser and like. :/// man. This part is rambly srry

i wouldn't say they hate cc!tommy? cc!tommy has a persona who people think is annoying at first ( but then they subscribe because he is super entertaining big man! ) but a lot of c!tommy's actions are straight up toxic to certain characters, such as c!funndy and c!jack. he has a very dismissive attitude towards others and their trauma and it does affect the people around them very negatively.

examples; his repeated bullying and behavior towards fundy:

Tommy: “Fundy, I’m just here to kinda let you know that I – if you weren’t Wilbur’s son, you would be out of L’manburg, alright? Just remember – you need to keep that relationship with your father. I saw how asshole-y and bratty you were acting in the courtroom the other night. You need to pull your shit together young man.”

......

Fundy: “I’m wearing glasses…are you making fun of my eyesight?!”

Tommy: “Yes.”

Sapnap: “Your father would be very disappointed.”

Fundy: “Wh – disappointed for wearing glasses?!”

Tommy: “You got glasses, like what are you wearing…”

Fundy: “What do you mean?”

Tommy: “Sapnap, Sapnap, over here. Fundy, Fundy, Fundy, I’m really sorry to say this – I’m just here to publicly denounce you.”

Fundy: “…What?”

( credit for transcript: @/findingjoynweirdstuff )

he's also responsible for a big chunk of c!jack's trauma, both with actions and words, and that's why i think certain people might dislike the character, and i don't think that's wrong of them. anyone can dislike any character they want if they don't attack people for liking them, in my opinion.

also c!tommy was most definitely toxic against c!dream in the cell. it's of course understandable but that doesn't change the fact he was constantly hitting and insulting him (without dream doing anything back for a long while until he snapped) which is toxic behaviour.

i wouldn't say he was "just as" though, so i agree with you on that. they're different and they behave differently.

i made a dream blob keychain today. Is it possible to send images if u wanna see? Idk cus i havent used tumblr before. I think that's all for now. Thx for letting me talk :D peepoShy -curious anon (but fr a connoreatspants c!dream redemption arc would be cool)

yooo that's cool! i don't really,,, know if it's possible to send images? try it out and if it isn't i'll try find a way to turn it on.

also, no problem! just please remember this is a c!dream sympathetic blog, and me as well as my followers are uhh,, oftentimes emotionally attached / personally relate to the character, so if you could avoid sending hate on the character (not that you have or that i expect you to, just a friendly reminder) in the asks that would be great! we already see a lot of it unwillingly so, i'd rather not see more, but as long as the discussion is civil i'm absolutely ok with you asking more and with me answering more questions if you'd want to! :)

if anyone else would like to reblog this and add some things i might've missed with my answers, feel free to, just go easy on her (she uses she/her pronouns!) and keep it factual.

i hope u had a good or at least ok time at school today :D

thanks! i gtg now because exam tomorrow but i'm going to try write the redemption essay tomorrow as well because ohhh boy i have a lot of ideas about what all i could write around the concept.

also sorry this was long, i can't keep my tongue on the leash :[

[mishkakagehishka]

👀👀 no, no, you're right... one of the beauties of zombie media, as far as i'm concerned, is the exploration of the way humanity deals with a system/societal collapse, the exploration of "Just how many people around you are only following morals because they have to," the exploration of "Just how depraved can humanity become if we get rid of laws"... It's a bit pessimistic, especially since I believe morals are inherent to a majority of the populace anyway, but who's to say people wouldn't have a mental break because of something like a zombie outbreak that would influence it. "We're all dead, nothing matters anyway" type of thing. Which is why I find no fun in zombie media that deals with years after the initial outbreak and society rebuilding cough the walking dead comics cough

But, man... all that you said chef's kiss, but if I may add👀 the more manipulative ones who kill two birds with one stone: they show themselves as this altruistic kind person by offering their rival a place in your group, only to then go "hunting" with them, and leave them to be torn apart by zombies... "I'm sorry, darling, a whole pack of them came out of nowhere, he tripped, I tried my best, but... He was already bitten. There was nothing I could do, but I promise he didn't suffer, I wouldn't allow it." The fact that his darling's then crying in their arms is just a bonus. And don't worry! The yandere makes sure to take them on the same route so they can see what remains of the rival's corpse. Both as a way to "prove" the yandere's story, and just as a sick powerplay.

And the "just us two" kind... yeah, those who tell you, "It's not safe, they could betray us. You don't know what sort of person they are now that there's no society to hold them accountable, what if they hurt you?" <- projection. "We can barely find food for us two, another mouth to feed will just make it harder." and so on. The darling thinks they're just a loner or mistrusting, but they don't want to share and now they finally have an excuse to keep them isolated.

And then the sadistic ones who see the zombie outbreak as an opportunity. Fuck, they've been spinning around the idea of kidnapping their darling for so long, this is the perfect opportunity. No institutions to protect them, their friends and family scattered around, no chance of surviving on their own, an amazing way to scare them into submission... Those don't even try to manipulate or lie. What's the point? They're upfront: "You're mine now, if you even think about running away, I'm tying you up and leaving you for the zombies. Better learn to love me back, you have no choice anymore." They kill all who try to meddle in front of their darling - they don't give a damn. What are they going to do? Report them to the police? ... They definitely keep a zombie chained up as a pet, by the way. Both to feed the corpses of the meddlers to, and as a scare tactic for the darling. Making the darling stand just out of reach as the zombie flails around trying to grab them, all the while the yandere berates them, "You'd look at others even in this situation? I'm the only reason you're still alive. Your life is mine, I feed you, I keep you sheltered and protected, you owe me your loyalty and love!"

And yes♡ the ones who get bitten and decide to not tell the darling and then bite them... or the ones who commit murder-suicide with them♡ Oo, wait, idk if you've played The Walking Dead games... in the final season (dw this isn't a spoiler, it's just a detail), there's a pair of zombies you can find tied to two chairs, looking out of the window, with their hands tied together as if they're holding hands, and a note that says "We chose this, please don't kill us"... Basically that, but the darling didn't choose it. The yandere just decided, well, it's the end of the road, but I can at least live out the rest of my undead life with my darling♡ Just drink this poison with them and they'll take care of tying you two up♡ Don't you trust them?

@mishkakagehishka I don't know if you've seen it already but I found the Halloween zombie quotes for Shu and Mika!